From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 10 19:54:30 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QUzUQ-3Uf000-02-8vl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:54:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QUzUQ-3Uf000-02-8vl; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:02:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QUzUQ-3Uf000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:02:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QUzUJ-0004IC-2b for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:02:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98F18E2A715; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307703768; bh=rUbL065VvYMg2QTsar8K45+bq9h1TMFz8OvNkfl2 0E8=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=GE0rjy34ldJkvBl0JxcTI2SPleEWR lGnFV7g4svn3e8VJn/p9bjx/XQPaIZzNBOin/ldI6iI6q+v/k05PdCHDe01ANVu2qYu c4a0p15d4/PvouuVRkiu8l8+ihAU56Eq4yQnjNXbsILp8ZJwUni0fPc9szT60Ec7GNi w+qPGboM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WkRsQomF0BZl; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF086E2A6EB; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307703767; bh=rUbL065VvYMg2QTsar8K45+bq9h1TMFz8OvNkfl2 0E8=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Yj1wPFrGhAWj5cbnp64TWO6qnzdJK 0/C20zmI30m/winKvjCd1Fn10xxFNW8IQkBJflJtzQreijcm6yfYbiu+rJA43mAf03c NAYrnd70jDWtHBm3W8j14aayb8Ceb70heKYvtTM3OtynlccPfEeHgIzYwK937DDJOPu bOkIugRk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B24F6E2A476 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7KmurBfR5Sl for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4559DE2A6EB for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QUzTz-0005X4-M5 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:02:31 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] CMYK in ArtWorks files in OPro To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:57:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 724 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@dentrassis.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WCJUt_ePnnwA:10 a=ZbiLPFkqrREA:10 a=eh7fDCqbAdkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4n2VcCVA6bgwSkVHNEcA:9 a=ps2TgiMQHk94JPozZZ0A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Hi, Is there a way to print CYMK objects contained in ArtWorks files to PostScript? I have some ArtWorks files embedded within an OPro document and I am trying to get the CMYK defined objects to appear in the PS3 output in CMYK. I guess this is handled by the ArtWorks Renderer module, so maybe this is the wrong list to ask on, but I know Martin Wuerthner usually reads this list so I thought I'd start it here as it's an OPro document being printed. I'll explain the situation: I have a number of Adobe Illustrator files of graphs and charts that are to be included into a book that it being created in (RISC OS) OPro. I load the file into Illustrator and save as PDF, the PDF is then imported into ArtWorks and then dropped into Ovation Pro. But when printing to PostScript using the PS3 driver all CMYK objects are converted to RGB. I did a little test with some basic rectangles with solid fill colours in C,M,Y,K,R,G,B. These objects appear in the PS output with an RGB setting in the form of: 0 255 255 rg So I did some simple changes to these lines to see if I could get the object to appear in CMYK when distilled to a PDF. I altered: 0 255 255 rg -to- 1 0 0 0 setcmykcolor 255 0 255 rg -to- 0 1 0 0 setcmykcolor 255 255 0 rg -to- 0 0 1 0 setcmykcolor ...etc and found that the resulting distilled PDF had these objects now set in DeviceCMYK color space... RESULT. It's a real shame that ArtWorks/AWRenderer does not detect the objects that are coloured in CMYK and send the appropriate setcmykcolor to the ps output stream! Ok, so the reason I've posted this to David's list and not Martin's is to ask if there is any other method that may achieve the output of these diagrams in CMYK. I wondered about using the OEPS applet? Has anyone else used that to get CMYK data into the PS output? Or, can anyone recommend any other method? I did think about moving the whole project over to InDesign, but then this really would be the wrong list! :) Gavin. 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Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-88-20-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.88.20]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LiIi3-1PiWU8086V-00mjLS; Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:47:59 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CMYK in ArtWorks files in OPro To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:47:48 +0200 Message-ID: <2d2123e151.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> In-Reply-To: <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:7KsM2eTg5qz+Lls9Ehmli1i5Ze1007I0DQoV12e7sLK M8879swE310xW+wUIvm+DlnxxvKhsVonNdGpRNzRz5etEPd5ra N5o7Oa5/f2tWPhPm09YBOi3gtrW1R0cX7PnDbnRGKYrP4Wq2SQ ArrpQGjdMSX3ylRfnGEWser9x4iaAUmD5NF4FGseYPsSoLF5IO KYWdZdX55VlilKJN2Ap/g== X-archive-position: 725 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=NuEBwJvFemoA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WJOMzOlIY0bg5LudQ28A:9 a=9plsMYQWQUngUD2B954A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cdubJsRaR3EA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> Gavin Crawford wrote: > Is there a way to print CYMK objects contained in ArtWorks files to > PostScript? No. You cannot get CMYK objects printed as CMYK to PostScript, neither from ArtWorks itself nor from an ArtWorks file embedded in OvationPro, nor from OvatinoPro itself, for that matter. Both ArtWorks and OvationPro print CMYK bitmaps as CMYK though (I would need to check whether AWRender does, I suspect not). That is why direct PDF export from ArtWorks is so valuable (amongst many other reasons): It gives you the CMYK colours you defined. Traditionally, both from ArtWorks and OvationPro, you only get CMYK colours by printing separations. > [...] > It's a real shame that ArtWorks/AWRenderer does not detect the objects > that are coloured in CMYK and send the appropriate setcmykcolor to the > ps output stream! Unfortunately, that cannot be done reliably without help from the PostScript driver, and so far, the PS2 driver did not offer any help. That is a real shame because it would have been trivial to add this to the RISC OS API even 20 years ago, but nobody did. I have been wanting to add that feature for many years but never got round to it. At least since we are in control of the PostScript 3 driver, that part is easy, but it also requires extending the RISC OS API slightly, which needs to be a coordinated effort in both branches of RISC OS. 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charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df3b1de.1049c-a0e-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 726 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=6N-dZGtB-H0A:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=-XkXshE2b1g6hn6-WCYA:9 a=-zFyfCo0XshB2fHGiWsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 i made a small change to the footers in master pages of a document, closed the master-page window, and now i keep getting the arcane error message "Lock object not found". what does this mean? my document insists on confining itself to a tiny window at the top of the screen; any attempt to make it bigger produces the same error. how can i get out of this and get my document back? -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 11 21:07:22 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QVUIa-3BE000-03-CDf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:07:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QVUIa-3BE000-03-CDf; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:56:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QVUIa-3BE000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:56:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QVUIT-0006kS-MI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 798F7E2A49A; 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Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx18.bluewin.ch (mx18.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.35]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC335E2A291 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [195.186.19.84] ([195.186.19.84:60152] helo=tr18.bluewin.ch) by mx18.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39798)) with ESMTP id 01/BD-04596-868C3FD4; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:56:24 +0000 Received: from ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch (83.79.174.112) by tr18.bluewin.ch (The Blue Window 8.5.119.018.5.119.01) (authenticated as janvredenburch@bluewin.ch) id 4DA834D2033FD149 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:56:24 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro "lock object not found" To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:56:11 +0200 Message-ID: <8fadd3e151.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> References: <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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(VPS 110611-1, 06/11/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 727 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TCEEC2QPgUEA:10 a=hSzcy0S4d5kA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=run3nQ0KWfwsUS1LzMQA:9 a=ToTkRlw86ooAm8l6s9AA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=R29SzJnarTA3z5v7:21 a=BwLEKnodIxPZOxKH:21 In message <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel wrote: > i made a small change to the footers in master pages of a document, > closed the master-page window, and now i keep getting the arcane error > message "Lock object not found". A small change? What did you add, text or picture? In the latter case it is possible that OvPro cannot find it because the reference setting has not been properly set. > what does this mean? > my document insists on confining itself to a tiny window at the top of > the screen; any attempt to make it bigger produces the same error. This is indeed a symptom of what I stated above. > how can i get out of this and get my document back? Drag open the tiny window just enough so you can open the Options window (ctrl-O) and deselect "Pictures". You should then be able to open your document and start repairs. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 11 21:22:23 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QVUWm-3UO000-05-BzT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:22:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QVUWm-3UO000-05-BzT; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:11:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QVUWm-3UO000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:11:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QVUWh-0006jj-CY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:11:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62F2CE28A35; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307823080; bh=7yo4WLpCGYhr4d+SLjvj1hISMb+tNMTNS8QLa1dW PDY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Zb4fl+99iKY5ywyS2wUevzM87wjTRP+JXNWL/RY7yogVHqsTgr o/IwzkCRc0bauzhX76dM7Ap45Zda8tMqGWg1Ip56kUydrb5kxzl5+BG4tcvpq72EcWW WE6DrxBJg041jd4Yj4xoGCHhc4naYlR9LgtzxuEPqDFUkh6J2wOMBc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z999k1MufCLY; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4705E27DF6; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307823079; bh=7yo4WLpCGYhr4d+SLjvj1hISMb+tNMTNS8QLa1dW PDY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=dk21BNArTUJU7D5LzdTBdnRpuNEcJhe/4w9sZZ3jdaFjBQTx9U 7AoyTsuHNIr3zxnjDGX32j+WBKhVPC1Vn0yUxehkJRn7Qr+A9fr8+ZsuBV6/8WJB5N8 hlP8NH9X9/UOoqmBMv+DTJjjXl4ydtpvQaSMEZ3dFoOaFW97AL3oPk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 906D1E27EB7 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6U1uUufY9j1k for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1DBC2E27DF6 for ; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 16:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QVUWO-0002vN-eo for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:11:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:09:41 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro "lock object not found" References: <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 728 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XC6iHghb4-EA:10 a=hSzcy0S4d5kA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3dMgm-xnHEdAZ4m-QzgA:9 a=GyWHONg3xGILiuO79YwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=l_syx45__a1PBNV-:21 a=PrvsybrMwJAs_8bM:21 Hi, In message <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel writes >i made a small change to the footers in master pages of a document, >closed the master-page window, and now i keep getting the arcane error >message "Lock object not found". > >what does this mean? Game over. Corrupt document. Your best hope is to save the document as DDL and then reload the DDL. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df3f127.1f8c-584b-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 729 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=hSzcy0S4d5kA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=err-l8X6G0781PZvjtoA:9 a=n68TgtbOM-VsYhsRCeIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=_ijzu0oZrgeFIRbS:21 a=ZQGoW3QKmfaygCVe:21 > In message <4cfcc8e151.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> > Jim Nagel wrote: >> i made a small change to the footers in master pages of a document, >> closed the master-page window, and now i keep getting the arcane error >> message "Lock object not found". Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch wrote on 11 Jun: > A small change? What did you add, text or picture? i did nothing except change two characters of text in the footer, for each of two chapters. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 12 11:47:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QVX0z-2Fu000-01-9VG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:47:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QVX0z-2Fu000-01-9VG; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QVX0z-2Fu000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QVX0v-0000Ar-R8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:50:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22E94E2A4E8; 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Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:14:25 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro DDL manipulation To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:13:11 +0100 Message-ID: <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df4ada1.580f-e82-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 731 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ZqmL5_1tNAsvSdyaEFYA:9 a=MDH2AZ7jOF7xUhzEPdsA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 i'm trying to write a little script that strips the introductory style definitions etc from an OPro story (not document) saved as DDL, as well as any codes after the end of the text. am i safe to assume that such a DDL file *always* begins with COL_01={ and that the actual text *always* begins after ={story\n (where \n is newline)? and that, having saved a single story, there will be only one such ={story\n occurrence in the file? the end of the text is quite clearly tagged {endoftext} so that seems clear! but does other stuff sometimes appear after that tag? -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 12 15:17:37 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QVlFh-1w2Vbs-07-CJa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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list davidpilling); Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:02:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 769E4E2A97E for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:02:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21LKFMIol6a5 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E41DE2A7C7 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QVlFL-0004D4-nV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:02:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:01:00 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro DDL manipulation References: <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 732 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Y4Ksj3NId-8A:10 a=O4zabrMx3AMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yJ_nSlq7-FJBQ2ogyc4A:9 a=D84Zsia7MmfHAPrK4bkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=HQanqGCHS-QPlhd3:21 a=bys_7i_hxFmrEm0t:21 Hi, In message <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel writes >i'm trying to write a little script that strips the introductory style >definitions etc from an OPro story (not document) saved as DDL, as >well as any codes after the end of the text. > >am i safe to assume that such a DDL file *always* begins with > COL_01={ >and that the actual text *always* begins after > ={story\n >(where \n is newline)? >and that, having saved a single story, there will be only one such > ={story\n >occurrence in the file? > >the end of the text is quite clearly tagged > {endoftext} >so that seems clear! but does other stuff sometimes appear after that >tag? I guess your assumptions are pretty safe. But not foolproof. For example COL_01 may not exist. I also suspect that if the story contains an embedded frame you will drag in lots of stuff e.g. other stories. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 13 12:05:09 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QVtv2-45sknw-07-CAl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:05:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QVtv2-45sknw-07-CAl; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:18:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QVtv2-45sknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:18:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QVtux-0001Jc-E7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:18:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7A6CE299E2; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:18:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307920685; bh=o6SbYx1wKSbZV5589CE/yWu1rN94zv9FCQ67kCld Zes=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=qO6TvJdtgzYP/zc5IkGfpEJjVJ54y5xhd3ViISqLcfwCvwfq+t oBUazUGTXnEVWSmnmpYG3DcbiG3tESxTZQ2VplUMlOSRgS8JNJhN98qSrKETtrOtGK5 BJz2SdM9SCwcK35cftgS4OBMpmhGQ/M0ftKADBxMhNVcjrijR/AAtw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PyXt02mYIO3N; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F868E261C1; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:17:52 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1307920684; bh=o6SbYx1wKSbZV5589CE/yWu1rN94zv9FCQ67kCld Zes=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=aybejLOXUf4Znr7iN95LF11cZnmUZLjHR8HrYMbWuue5ZRw/SM Ak3FPMk+mAHpbycLMZKa/Pk7dTX/DhHazsJgGhYwGs5dkQiC5VeJwOH6oIqJC4sAMe6 SXNJ45bKuz5t3dPmbsFVywmIWSh4CSOJeFqvRDPN5IETHE3Fmxe9Ks= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:17:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E63D9E299D9 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:17:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCG+3KE-uBxA for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 39430E261C1 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpc1-sgyl17-0-0-cust191.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com ([92.235.172.192] helo=[192.168.1.13]) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QVtue-0002D4-Lk for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:17:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:17:40 +0100 From: Jeremy Nicoll - zf freelists To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro DDL manipulation Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> References: <0a202de251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.6.3353 (Qt/4.6.3) (Windows-XP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: jn.fr.lsts.74@wingsandbeaks.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JW6HlF9dDQkA:10 a=O4zabrMx3AMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JgUOxTdGWkcBQ3v4Bv0A:9 a=KUelp7ybVDmDtowGc9oA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 Jim Nagel wrote: > i'm trying to write a little script that strips the introductory style > definitions etc from an OPro story (not document) saved as DDL, as > well as any codes after the end of the text. > > am i safe to assume ... Good programming practice says that you shouldn't assume things like this without checking they're so in your target file. Then when your script finds a DDL file that doesn't meet expectation it stops without creating garbage. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 13 13:34:59 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QW6E6-3LXVbs-02-Guj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:34:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QW6E6-3LXVbs-02-Guj; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:26:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QW6E6-3LXVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:26:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QW6E0-0006Hm-Ra for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:26:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A84C2E2B46D; 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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74AD2E2B3E3 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:26:15 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjgHAI0B9k3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbABSmBOOI3eIcr8vhiQElgOLDw Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2011 13:26:13 +0100 Received: from [212.159.8.87] (helo=pih-webmail01) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QW6Dd-0007Il-4Q for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:26:13 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.plus.net) by pih-webmail01 with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QW6Db-0000Nk-OB for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:26:12 +0100 Received: from 163.160.116.27 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tinshill+ajh) by webmail.plus.net with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:26:11 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> References: <3e841ee151.Dentrassis@mail> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:26:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: CMYK in ArtWorks files in OPro From: "Anthony Hilton" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 734 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qFRnvRBcnqcA:10 a=NuEBwJvFemoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=GCZBuicCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=90RbR-8LW2-rTvwZMPoA:9 a=nm_ydOEX1OssG1mNPncA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=NWeGtDXFbzqE9yhh:21 a=m9jMib55hrT6Ku2h:21 > Hi, > > Is there a way to print CYMK objects contained in ArtWorks files to > PostScript? > Save or export as EPS? [snip] > > I'll explain the situation: I have a number of Adobe Illustrator files > of graphs and charts that are to be included into a book that it being > created in (RISC OS) OPro. I load the file into Illustrator and save > as PDF, the PDF is then imported into ArtWorks and then dropped into > Ovation Pro. But when printing to PostScript using the PS3 driver all > CMYK objects are converted to RGB. > Could you save/export from AI as EPS with CMYK colours? [snip] > > Ok, so the reason I've posted this to David's list and not Martin's is > to ask if there is any other method that may achieve the output of > these diagrams in CMYK. I wondered about using the OEPS applet? Has > anyone else used that to get CMYK data into the PS output? Answer to the question - No I haven't ever done that. Random thoughts prompted by Gavin's post but following their own paths. If you export EPS from Artworks (or direct from AI) are the colours defined in CMYK? As far as I am aware OEPS embeds the EPS in the postscript output stream without alteration, so CMYK in the EPS would get through to the final PS output. My other wild imagining would be to use Ghostscript to process the source PDF (with CMYK colours) to EPS. I have no idea whether this would work, o= r how long it would take. 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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52C921F54 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:50:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from host81-156-198-227.range81-156.btcentralplus.com (HELO Nails.nails.abbeypress.net) (81.156.198.227) (smtp-auth username jim%pop3.archivemag.co.uk, mechanism cram-md5) by outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:50:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] OPro DDL manual To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:40:45 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df623ad.118d6-79d5-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 735 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ERb6neMgg_A4zRFR9REA:9 a=GQncZtsx16UiHEMwWpwA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 the Ovation Pro manual, appendix I, says it "does not give full DDL syntax, which is beyond the scope of this user guide." are these details in some other available document, please? i have the Stronghelp manual for the OPro scripting language, but that's not the same thing as DDL. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 13 16:50:04 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QW9HC-0dXknw-05-Drd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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list davidpilling); Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:41:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73B1AE28AE6 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:41:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kgwKj1467LYU for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B7474E28A7A for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QW9En-0006ml-kE for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:39:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:38:20 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro DDL manual References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 736 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=REtH42MAViwA:10 a=O4zabrMx3AMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=T-Y8VJhq1Kt-7197zaIA:9 a=qDobko9O4A8E1F4UT7cA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=YOWJt3qINfwoTC9D:21 a=_s8EJSJGrAy_fhFH:21 Hi, In message , Jim Nagel writes >the Ovation Pro manual, appendix I, says it "does not give full DDL >syntax, which is beyond the scope of this user guide." > >are these details in some other available document, please? No. I never felt there was enough demand to make it worth while. You're the 250th. person I've told that today. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7042E21C55 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:20:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from host81-156-198-227.range81-156.btcentralplus.com (HELO Nails.nails.abbeypress.net) (81.156.198.227) (smtp-auth username jim%pop3.archivemag.co.uk, mechanism cram-md5) by outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:20:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro DDL manual To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:59:27 +0100 Message-ID: <22adc5e251.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df638c5.a89f-3114-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 737 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=O4zabrMx3AMA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YAm3TSnljpSJaAx0OdMA:9 a=vB-WChsy0wI31MRktu0A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 David Pilling wrote on 13 Jun: > I never felt there was enough demand to make it worth while. You're the > 250th. person I've told that today. most droll, Mr P. ;=} -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jun 14 21:48:36 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWW8v-4d2000-02-GZS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:48:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWW8v-4d2000-02-GZS; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:07:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWW8v-4d2000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:07:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWW8r-00046p-L6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:07:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0081E070A3; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:58 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308067619; bh=d/CLtDGgtjWd8blwvC2Y53F60cAEstpi5PHW6O9y Z/I=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=bPy0/K8BUsd41x lyEtC6QrJbxWjDbSCJKY8t8qg+xlE/tAHa2hmFxKI4dWMjn6pBwBrol1ob5EBuzauMC leGZa420ZVGF3XKYHLvpuYmbgJB7/I2AmWnxVSlPcsT9UROTU7y2k3OlOtue7t/Rq9L upiBpLr/RPx1ttiRy22kGCw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AC+gj3XZpDS4; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E556CE2B6E7; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308067617; bh=d/CLtDGgtjWd8blwvC2Y53F60cAEstpi5PHW6O9y Z/I=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=SRDs0RIb4rDGj8 0Bb/4aW7uC4p8Ion4SvcPY889h6Qys56ZZDojwRmaMWBi1O9+1XFOM/odxiYjw3eIcM 8Ad1p6JlJo5YgyTNavyo6ofI/xc2di4Eb4Ii9sAuYvzVQbYitsFj8z8UnFX1/wym61y Pfj+DnHR9tI3If92nVlLaeU= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2792E2B854 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2xwTFO87BS2c for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2959AE2B77A for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.123.1 ([91.85.161.58]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p5EG6AgX020504 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:06:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Ovation Pro) To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:05:20 +0100 X-Organization: Orpheusmail, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Printing from ArMini Message-Id: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 738 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UOqtY4YQ2VsA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xNvkMkDTqFym4KUJ0W4A:9 a=6ugTXWuc5Ry03X_MlIsA:7 a=RUWx05JTvBcHWtjV:21 a=aEq7ce_67aO5_IVP:21 I have a large OP file with a number of jpegs. If I try to print it on the ArMini it tells me I have incomplete or corrupt jpeg(s). If I copy the file back onto a RiscPC it prints correctly. All the jpegs are in the OP file. Also I was able to remake all the proxy pictures. (I have updated the Col Supplement) Any Ideas? -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jun 14 21:48:37 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWWcd-0HPGPo-01-G5k.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:48:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWWcd-0HPGPo-01-G5k; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWWcd-0HPGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWWcW-00022v-Ct for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63574E29AE0; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:38 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308069458; bh=H6lphd4nFgG5f4EHoFaESevWgFuz8lU/7CQ0BjZ2 9QE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=p200QUHXDtFcjiUHiH2ORA0Tod9eY JPDKZCvncb6pAfbT/WYXgqHrklmRk/yflUjKGTjetPns7kP3EPjnvFrGq8Esp5+oTFA wKqiFvw+FVtOpeF1x1SgvIC9vsoQO23ZyHYx9uwKcpTQ+7NPLUCjiXUqOzEepO258Pk 2SKm7EW8= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R-cuQ7oxzEau; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4763E29935; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308069457; bh=H6lphd4nFgG5f4EHoFaESevWgFuz8lU/7CQ0BjZ2 9QE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=aEw9PS+OjN4Jq7KiFg9IIUYIXznHE Grn0/m/kG87woF99Wu9Rkh2RhvWQ5NX2ugblM9NlX/DZyjBrJjlaaoyMzZ23jkonbDu TcOLK0MkFaye+p5+l8k5WbRfF8xYRfblMuhViy9zENgviCyWbUMT1BPZhNT7V9EhMhm rzBU4Wk4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8788EE29931 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32fbkcGravxW for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CBD87E298F1 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dyn-62-56-104-101.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.104.101] helo=Merlin.nom) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH joyces) (Exim 4.69) id 1QWWcE-0005pP-mp for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:37:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: David Pilling Software Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:37:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Odd behaviour from SparkFS - or was Samba the Culprit Message-ID: <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 739 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PDOtnbcRzukA:10 a=mUfWHFAHyYgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=L_Msh2t9bNlMG4Kh52gA:9 a=CmFDfrw9u95fLdIfH9wA:7 a=4-abKrEhJqDPyBfz:21 a=4XtueAQlgizXrfXK:21 Zipped up some images from my camera to send to a friend using SparkFS. Checked that the created archive opened ok, and that the files inside displayed ok. Wrote covering email and attached archive - Pluto unhappy about the size of the attachment relative to the email, but it eventually did as asked. I thought I'd check the archive using Windows XP, so fired up Samba and swapped to my Win PC. Copied the archive only to discover that the file was of zero length? Returned to RPC and repeated the exercise, turning on compression - I'd deselected it when creating the original archive. Also made an archive using !ZipEE. Back to XP and transfer fresh copies - SparkFS archive still zero length, but the ZipEE one was ok, opening and display images as I'd hoped. Back to RPC and copy both archives to a USB memory stick; back to XP and copied both archives to Windows. Both archives now work as intended. Tried LanMan2 and both archives arrived and worked ok with XP. So why did Samba fail to copy one archive, but succeed with the other? I generally prefer to pull files rather than push them, but in this case that didn't work for both files. The SparkFS archive was emailed, received, and worked correctly. 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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-82-128-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.82.128]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LvLnz-1PW2ID22SZ-010gK1; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:48:34 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing from ArMini To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:43:21 +0200 Message-ID: <918458e351.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:crtEw8ejJATRlrYPT0YLjpM7HHNZBrQfD7baXPMRYgj GB5HSBfDoae4vW2plP3H40RnUGLN1UCONmEIdRsNZY8IWLdXoT IlQ+2yrS0bp2Vh9kkj5cmouZBgypEH768z4P/SEXZY71EUIdXM vth22GY7rA2BxUh74raYKP/Z8uu3up84AEIsoKkl9Ad5Q7gLdL GmRx9JAoa/foN6tIJesOQ== X-archive-position: 741 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=GxxWr1kRw-oA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=19ulI2008IirAUWc3isA:9 a=i63w9vhlLlKFwhzqBccA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=fgd9IQH-yaP12mhj:21 a=rEqbo_-6y_XOzu3z:21 In message <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk (Ovation Pro) wrote: > I have a large OP file with a number of jpegs. If I try to print it on the > ArMini it tells me I have incomplete or corrupt jpeg(s). If I copy the file > back onto a RiscPC it prints correctly. All the jpegs are in the OP > file. Also > I was able to remake all the proxy pictures. > (I have updated the Col Supplement) > Any Ideas? The JPEG rendering capabilities differ between versions of RISC OS. The Select strand has more robust code coping with a wider range of JPEGs than RISC OS 5. So, it is possible that you could import a JPEG without any problems on RISC OS 4.39, but that JPEG might fail to render on a RISC OS 5 system. Can you display all pages of the document on the ARMini? Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jun 14 21:48:43 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWYlr-0YAGPo-02-DwW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:48:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWYlr-0YAGPo-02-DwW; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:55:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWYlr-0YAGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:55:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWYlo-0004ko-JH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:55:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92555E2A4AD; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308077722; bh=6wzERBfoPIpBL4cdWRFt8ReYJkj94uAaoBMtUAbf apk=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=pB62pQ B2Iv/LLXcuwXjysuF3DNsrw28sQXSi3BGc8oOtoDgWekOMgzZPZKE1ipcFdI8T9w0nD G9p/tJT3q8RejW/5alsn4GacIHhcvKZ7j8zpLqTP4AJe/HMg0snBpR6rb+iTHvWnwea LQNvUOUNiObrlq7vzR1j+W7t4hOj3Zo= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kKn3HwTU2YcH; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A35DCE2A3D0; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:08 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308077721; bh=6wzERBfoPIpBL4cdWRFt8ReYJkj94uAaoBMtUAbf apk=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=XPt3Xv 4emPlhloLc1n1r60QqBi45Y8xMiNlHC/C/oHQShUw/62TYMVxubrtMODQFeYEV/HSA2 lkgfDGsHS4mz4wpdVxbFCbNVfLolPIv8uvGstOtEibf07KBFD3VIXllild6eec5Da5c gXXE4UQQYix7NUfrdsrYjM1wSbYUwSs= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F541E2A3E5 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LezSPznDT6g0 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11F4CE2A3D0 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.170.131]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p5EIsWvH024371 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:54:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: David Pilling Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:54:55 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Colour Supplemt 1.17 - dogged by Beagle Message-ID: <51e35993a2dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51e357cc71chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <51e357cc71chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 742 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KR5MIgd2fWAA:10 a=L0L1VtwaRTQA:10 a=Vt-lPvQP9RgA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=2XH_fZ4Z9IdU8aHCjc8A:9 a=OkPjFD07tn5kkHunixYA:7 a=cmhrs12mNjZK90z3:21 a=Zae5GxkGyRMR9Gro:21 In article <51e357cc71chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > anyone got RComps new machine? > I have, for my sins. Do tell us more. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jun 14 22:03:10 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWaho-4WcVbs-06-C0Z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:03:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWaho-4WcVbs-06-C0Z; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:59:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWaho-4WcVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:59:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWahm-00046b-Be for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:59:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 31888E2B2CF; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308085160; bh=aGcM9apMtVSDTzttKhzcex6UeWTPpsF7GZlcg78L 02w=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=hfwrG3nwMFIkaMuZJhZuw6x1XPmDEkLP5HlH7/8HX8O/FnqsPA NhVXwNy6iH65HuWbOJkH3F3gO0nlEhV3tUxJpav0KlrurEwdG6DX/GYotVrtk7CXf7g Gmv1KG3iFEQdh/81n2t1Lgu8E/iCkFK54wBGVhkeDYz2gFoDmJia4M= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UzR3WQHwovy0; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 550AEE29BED; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308085159; bh=aGcM9apMtVSDTzttKhzcex6UeWTPpsF7GZlcg78L 02w=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=cMN+w4An12xKih5rXwiT6e93NL8u3WABceCYG0KZA1JVmPau/F Nb9dwVjQVQcIq/LJZxzl/+1ah+qm3sgJjGL8WGVbBS2BEbTgKoqT3Gfh+M4HybZgGOJ nZ04caeyxASv8EjTKZiUk5jYeH0WE8RnO2Nx9W2+xUf6gVH/SFYGSI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2EFA7E29D0E for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8m2V8SrQMpzX for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BFCF4E29BED for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QWahR-00038z-ij for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:32 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd behaviour from SparkFS - or was Samba the Culprit References: <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 743 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jscz-33nQ5gA:10 a=EUTW5oxFhkwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=72YlIHxjAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=BJiOGiJmFn_6EDiAW_8A:9 a=qpwWkxqhotdAEmZScu4A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MyAO-JySiYPyYUre:21 a=zkh01AVY_nev7DnM:21 Hi, In message <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce writes >swapped to my Win PC. Copied the archive only to discover that the file >was of zero length? Presuming the file is not zero length on RISC OS, and it is zero length on Windows, then the problem is the transfer mechanism, not SparkFS. I'm not trying to escape 8-) just pointing out where to put your efforts. >Back to XP and transfer fresh copies - SparkFS archive still zero length, >but the ZipEE one was ok, opening and display images as I'd hoped. So what is the difference in the two archives - are they different file types? Another idea is that with SparkFS loaded, archives (of the right types) appear as folders, and your transfer program may be thinking they're folders. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing from ArMini Message-Id: <2455727.22195910-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <918458e351.martin@bach.planiverse.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 746 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GxxWr1kRw-oA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VskQruy6u6s-ETqMwsgA:9 a=bQhKEYIHkinBfTE3BXgA:7 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 On Tue 14 Jun 2011 (20:43:21 +0200), public@mw-software.com wrote: >The JPEG rendering capabilities differ between versions of RISC OS. >The Select strand has more robust code coping with a wider range of >JPEGs than RISC OS 5. So, it is possible that you could import a JPEG >without any problems on RISC OS 4.39, but that JPEG might fail to >render on a RISC OS 5 system. Can you display all pages of the >document on the ARMini? > Yes display is fine - but then only proxy images are used. I have re-posted my comments adding that the Potscript 3 driver solves the problem. John -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Jun 14 22:33:11 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWb3Q-1Mb000-07-Bex.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:33:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWb3Q-1Mb000-07-Bex; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWb3Q-1Mb000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWb3N-00025j-3n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:21:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14E39E2A5FC; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308086488; bh=bVsAO6Py41IwHM31vLvbLM8Q7OHAr3udiP50OFmP odU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=OXb2U6mvkemol3 B9hvJzr93/OARdvgkMYNirb29lI62ltNvzpSpML+oOXPYcLKrjK+JdNYKtikRUwVluN 4RuPuSYhTGgJqJ+JH6OJDFO0IG9T7TqaSP7yeae7HpzoaNNHh+MUOrROGxMp+yPsB5j BYIW6/JpFf4yppxQr9236zA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XvxR6H8nDszk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 35779E2A292; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:12 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308086485; bh=bVsAO6Py41IwHM31vLvbLM8Q7OHAr3udiP50OFmP odU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=FbTogxGIMw08yK +PP8OEnGYAcNhyCZSKdjLZLj3dJnUnhR614AabafU0jFsUpSEBv5eStby8JdDYkHcBg Z6QdBjbcXiOtoTtu1z7lEXBJrWibO1g7XHQX9rADXyS1odNWHzLlUuCpD0CS9Q6tA+d tzeVSC1Ux66nAe9ptnpbQHg= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12098E2A181 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sn-Pom6xYfkc for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45E61E2A2E2 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.123.1 ([91.85.161.58]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p5ELKWIb026717 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:20:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Ovation Pro) To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:16:44 +0100 X-Organization: Orpheusmail, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Colour Supplemt 1.17 - dogged by Beagle Message-Id: <2455727.2216447-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51e357cc71chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 745 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L0L1VtwaRTQA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EZDc3FmBjFUetwcgUpoA:9 a=NyXA70VRJ2m40gDWOqwA:7 a=lPVrHKgAO3VfYsHL:21 a=pFs9AXwhsA6KOD7j:21 On Tue 14 Jun 2011 (19:35:29 +0100), chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com wrote: >n article , > David Pilling wrote: >> anyone got RComps new machine? > >I have, for my sins. > So have I - and I think it is brilliant. Obviously there are a few snags, but so far the only serious one for me is that I cannot get DDT from the new updated C.C++ compiler to work. I would suggest that if you are using a Postscript printer that you change to Postscript 3 - it seems to handle jpegs when the PS 2 driver fails. 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X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] \reply: Printing from ArMini Message-Id: <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 744 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=W8HJuq6Z1gkA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xNvkMkDTqFym4KUJ0W4A:9 a=AMjLn97xoVhEek8N3r4A:7 a=31tCC7ONCYXA_hZn:21 a=Y4A3g05aaJq3QPlO:21 I have a large OP file with a number of jpegs. If I try to print it on the ArMini it tells me I have incomplete or corrupt jpeg(s). If I copy the file back onto a RiscPC it prints correctly. All the jpegs are in the OP file. Also I was able to remake all the proxy pictures. (I have updated the Col Supplement) Any Ideas? LATER I have just discovered That the file prints on the ArMini using Postscript 3 but not Postscript 2. -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 11:55:45 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWc5m-0Um000-04-Acb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:55:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWc5m-0Um000-04-Acb; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:28:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWc5m-0Um000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:28:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWc5j-0003ki-JU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:28:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D7ECE29ED9; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:09 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308090489; bh=q8iVNamNswjk1Me2CnzwxanJ8AYWiFJT4ZZXBq4v 2GQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=ZnYMcdPe5E7QuPMdwAjHIssf8YfD6OyNpPXApUviC9S0qBDMvs OqjX/VOn5mkr+8zmI/a9o89s6D6V3PYKhj3gh4SrbFylzHt81IQ/uJBlkDAOvY7/Vqw X/z4lEDpml1ke1ebduhiz1F0JXITsr9jn7o7w6ltkaHcQAJ5BRpz3Q= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bNSjs84fZci1; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3AEBE28E6B; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:27:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308090488; bh=q8iVNamNswjk1Me2CnzwxanJ8AYWiFJT4ZZXBq4v 2GQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=CJeU9H8O1GWHCWUnhMilQZ+/WwSL8AkfgOcSa5Gio12LAmJcnL q1Zfwr5II/mELOIxBYeVKltLHYTXs46E6M6xTe++jR55Ld/XNzcsuy835AdO9SS886i MqyvgGX44lNlxUYsTRHmc1FfCHlBteF93qnwDgyRNatBd9fg+qWvVo= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:27:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F30EE29E71 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:27:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HrKKetvEKafz for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA901E28E6B for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QWc3f-0003zH-kv for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 22:26:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:24:32 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini References: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S (<+uqE8ld7I+dR2TS9VBJ1TasqP3>) X-archive-position: 747 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=YVMgo-UVYMUA:10 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RLJSWvFpPWFTBbFiyi8A:9 a=PJVvZmLN312vF2Fn-9AA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=OSEFWgbAhu6h9yNx:21 a=ZQ40zeq3DKysvTTi:21 Hi, In message <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro writes >I have a large OP file with a number of jpegs. If I try to print it on the >ArMini it tells me I have incomplete or corrupt jpeg(s). If I copy the file >back onto a RiscPC it prints correctly. All the jpegs are in the OP file. Also >I was able to remake all the proxy pictures. What happens if you turn off proxy display? (View options) When you say you could remake the proxies, was that operation carried out on the ArMini? PostScript printing is different to bit map printing - the latter will probably use the JPEG rendering code in RISC OS, the former probably does not (or at least not much of it). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:18:15 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUGAE/r903Unw4U/2dsb2JhbABSmAuORXeIdb90hiYEliKLFg Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 15 Jun 2011 00:18:14 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QWcsA-0006hU-8n for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:18:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 00:17:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Colour Supplemt 1.17 - dogged by Beagle Message-ID: <51e3719ae7chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <2455727.2216447-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> References: <51e357cc71chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <2455727.2216447-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 748 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=L0L1VtwaRTQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=9Uw8k1eavVRCi1SoXOoA:9 a=V72wHtpjezq_jlBvdNcA:7 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=prZJMjwhKq6NQc7d:21 a=GTn9qfAgoWqYpUfV:21 In article <2455727.2216447-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro wrote: > I would suggest that if you are using a Postscript printer that > you change to Postscript 3 - it seems to handle jpegs when the PS 2 > driver fails. That assumes the postscript printer is PS3 friendly 8o) -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 11:55:54 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWmw7-2G0GPo-02-GpI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:55:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWmw7-2G0GPo-02-GpI; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:02:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWmw7-2G0GPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:02:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWmvy-0001Ns-Ng for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 061E2E2B624; 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Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7132EE292E9 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-82-119-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.82.119]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Mewsn-1Q8xTk0Ter-00OTYQ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:02:33 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:02:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2455727.175204-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:BRV1Amcu1wQsaEQRhXTPqQB3Obtstbj8XW+derkWd7b zTwIcD4YbQGJoiaLFhjzCt812JlZWOSB/ilfqx8yJCT6IldSeM zhLoEbX+WMaQjhGqz+oODzVOqJDW0wX2Ktgj6h4MXrL4LQVgku 8f5m6K5eng/UtzV3ob2Y2FBlqTscP2ge/lGi4QxY87/ers/an7 Ug4EYTcFiKh8KBBG44umg== X-archive-position: 749 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=669AlurKPQhx7s2rSt4A:9 a=6F0LykYzZ-1U-9HlqGQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=10UL5MXkKY_3Ns0V:21 a=4dJk8mQbJ8zN-vGm:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <2455727.229382-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro > writes >>I have a large OP file with a number of jpegs. If I try to print it on the >>ArMini it tells me I have incomplete or corrupt jpeg(s). If I copy the file >>back onto a RiscPC it prints correctly. All the jpegs are in the OP >>file. Also >>I was able to remake all the proxy pictures. > What happens if you turn off proxy display? (View options) I would be interested in that, too. John? > When you say you could remake the proxies, was that operation carried > out on the ArMini? > PostScript printing is different to bit map printing - the latter will > probably use the JPEG rendering code in RISC OS, the former probably > does not (or at least not much of it). Correct, but in the standard case PS3 uses just about as much (or as little) of the JPEG rendering code in RISC OS as the PS2 driver, just the code that extracts resolution information, etc., so that alone would not explain why PS3 succeeded while PS2 failed. John, maybe you printed in greyscales ("Colour" option switched off)? That would explain the difference because in that case, the PS3 driver still sends the JPEG data straight to the PS printer without using the JPEG rendering code whereas the PS2 driver uses the JPEG rendering code to render it to a greyscale sprite. 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Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07FA6E2AA5D for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-82-119-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.82.119]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lsuti-1PVX582FeE-012Y08; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:00:32 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd behaviour from SparkFS - or was Samba the Culprit To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: <479dade351.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:J3ysNhELPps03g4Pk6GHEweRU7pHoUR9KArqhE8yJDF uJi4d36kkgBmntR4vCcGkd5W2xQ1iJGTFNguJAaH8qybD8s68y EC42Ngm3rcm4RMLTIkNNNF+w1OhdsYacQD9bWHLfw9hzyyqtFx kHNAwNzvT9Mm+w1WnLTWali0r/KXhC9nA8HCJpQx53FCblDrm3 5YZS5qHc8EXARl1dmr36A== X-archive-position: 750 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=EUTW5oxFhkwA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=72YlIHxjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=q5FSrXS9pGQFJgudFswA:9 a=nFMRpAvHJ9ggGqiwF6QA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=K1ofhtYyOw2pqCCN:21 a=2e78v8ot7pzgpwI6:21 In message <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > In message <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce > writes >>swapped to my Win PC. Copied the archive only to discover that the file >>was of zero length? > Presuming the file is not zero length on RISC OS, and it is zero length > on Windows, then the problem is the transfer mechanism, not SparkFS. > I'm not trying to escape 8-) just pointing out where to put your > efforts. >>Back to XP and transfer fresh copies - SparkFS archive still zero length, >>but the ZipEE one was ok, opening and display images as I'd hoped. > So what is the difference in the two archives - are they different file > types? > Another idea is that with SparkFS loaded, archives (of the right types) > appear as folders, and your transfer program may be thinking they're > folders. The problem might be caused by something else. When you create an archive with SparkFS, the file is kept open for some time, even with read/write access. That does not cause any problems because the file is automatically closed when some other program tries to read it. If, however, a program (e.g., samba) tried to be clever and looked at the file open status before accessing the file, then it would deduce that the file cannot be read because it is open for writing, and its reaction may well be to deliver a file of 0 bytes in that case. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 12:40:45 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWoGD-32Wknw-02-FVC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:40:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWoGD-32Wknw-02-FVC; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:27:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWoGD-32Wknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:27:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWoG8-0002Cb-1Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:27:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F314E2AB21; 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Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C2724E2AA75 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QWoFq-0005Lw-id for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:27:26 +0000 Message-ID: <1esYBbDXbJ+NFwI9@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:26:15 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Odd behaviour from SparkFS - or was Samba the Culprit References: <51e34cf4c6Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> <479dade351.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <479dade351.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 751 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TfeZeJ8KYdMA:10 a=EUTW5oxFhkwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NbFNkeNiWAe5J7YVywAA:9 a=OS8Qq07dYX3kGKTMfmMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=s14anmMyMrpKC5js:21 a=T1DH_OBEUUygSl6P:21 Hi, In message <479dade351.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner writes >In message <7bFLQ9A8s89NFwgG@pilling.demon.co.uk> > David Pilling wrote: >The problem might be caused by something else. When you create an >archive with SparkFS, the file is kept open for some time, even with >read/write access. That does not cause any problems because the file >is automatically closed when some other program tries to read it. That is true. It is kind of a special case of "is the filetype the problem". The one that always worries me is the 5 seconds (it is configurable) that SparkFS leaves files open with unwritten data - if you're really quick you can copy things to floppy or whatever in that time, usually resulting in a file that is a lot bigger than it should be. There is a SparkFS option, to "forget" an archive, useful if you want to close it and flush data. (also removes it from memory) I suppose one could fiddle with the existing "ImageFSFix" module to make image files appear as ordinary files to certain applications. For example I have always wanted to load archive files into Edit. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini Message-Id: <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 752 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PGrDuUKqT28O5i-U3X8A:9 a=-DFqrmVNzITArjq0w6sA:7 On Tue 14 Jun 2011 (23:24:32 +0100), flist@pilling.demon.co.uk wrote: >What happens if you turn off proxy display? (View options) I turned off proxies, no change. > >When you say you could remake the proxies, was that operation carried >out on the ArMini? Yes > NB The document is 2 sides of A4 with 13 jpegs and text. It is about 6.5Mbts. The problem is not critical just part of running up the ArMini. There is some overlapping of text and graphics. 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X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Colour Supplemt 1.17 - dogged by Beagle Message-Id: <2455728.1230157-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51e3719ae7chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 754 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L0L1VtwaRTQA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xYzYa_jAsce4OdNuRGcA:9 a=_vpGn8Oww7UPsKZy7-oA:7 On Wed 15 Jun 2011 (00:17:22 +0100), chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com wrote: >> I would suggest that if you are using a Postscript printer that >> you change to Postscript 3 - it seems to handle jpegs when the PS 2 >> driver fails. > >That assumes the postscript printer is PS3 friendly 8o) > Yes it is a recent Xerox Phaser 6280. As I reported elsewhere PS3 prints correctly. John -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 13:10:46 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWom5-0D6knw-03-EzK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:10:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWom5-0D6knw-03-EzK; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:00:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWom5-0D6knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:00:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWolp-0002Cs-14 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:00:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B654E2B5BE; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308139227; bh=PAcbq4kYgS3fK+SXMxmJGnymljH/+LIxoC79cpkc iPE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=rJoHguUj1bzKra DS92qybGZgBDEylkD1mpkFnqGPKLLBdXKeVzmAEQqiv7gI/bMhIONg2o6hjzuxIet1E 71IODpRkmfIFfBE7GVy9lXwksie8yVZqTuu/+ol+6KDmPvbpZSZJjjMJJkosW7Fx7bW YAb2c8rbpHzGwwbYWABLQOY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s-7dxIABp2Dz; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 640E7E2B358; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308139224; bh=PAcbq4kYgS3fK+SXMxmJGnymljH/+LIxoC79cpkc iPE=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Y6n7sE9he+kU+7 +lQZSYFMxE9kXDUlTseBYOSRJavjAF7+7pqBHUMHHmmSjOeSBgTw7uJTqsIQh2+8hvL 2PTrtdkrQswNFJc355I3QqXvhh/m2qzBN7FCYuXKOevzSVyNbh+ysC+Z5PbJnjalGNy v6lCGkCPDBDu2lZOnDFFFUI= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36833E2B37D for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YcoDsmIk3thd for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF4CEE2B358 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.123.1 ([91.85.161.58]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p5FBxYZt010982 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:59:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Ovation Pro) To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:24:54 +0100 X-Organization: Orpheusmail, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.41 for RISC OS 4.39 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini Message-Id: <2455728.1224547-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 753 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=ajCFBSiu4qQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hUQWkYMVItNsLrtSljsA:9 a=VwIeZAprVLOIogaiIMUA:7 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 On Wed 15 Jun 2011 (12:02:18 +0200), public@mw-software.com wrote: >Correct, but in the standard case PS3 uses just about as much (or as >little) of the JPEG rendering code in RISC OS as the PS2 driver, just >the code that extracts resolution information, etc., so that alone >would not explain why PS3 succeeded while PS2 failed. > >John, maybe you printed in greyscales ("Colour" option switched off)? >That would explain the difference because in that case, the PS3 driver >still sends the JPEG data straight to the PS printer without using the >JPEG rendering code whereas the PS2 driver uses the JPEG rendering >code to render it to a greyscale sprite. > The pages are printed in full colour. John -- John Evans Mijas Winchester To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 14:10:49 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWpl0-1kgGPo-02-E0P.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:10:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWpl0-1kgGPo-02-E0P; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:03:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWpl0-1kgGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:03:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWpkt-000603-32 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:03:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1745E2B833; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308143013; bh=U3N20jR1XywnboxsV4DokGgf1nMJmA+9ZUIXot46 lhM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=xZm8Ine+ylQV/wBBXIL45kQkG79kx+MOdqA49HTkCgMACy1Bt0 3fKQNPM1Vkk4uoar9TVb0eK1Ku9F2Q27qS62axnOGp55j/Wtet/9Pce/AyhW6WPac2S Ict9eGLK4MbzuyrjOxnZJnjKrbHe2L5jB4u5jFfHurQcJPOdbnc4GA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BnB4Rww2Ibrx; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2C5FE2B7E9; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308143012; bh=U3N20jR1XywnboxsV4DokGgf1nMJmA+9ZUIXot46 lhM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Al18VTaXbULEmmwcr7uRA8tC5YF1QEaV18Zc/USpbC5F/YLUae RKlqX2EsWEIz77cVsd2SoXTZ82DPHlSYzpyVykVGTqkaGQKWuYhiiIjbxGohqKm6HiJ WR5mvTmNh6WPhOZ6UlSP2Vl+lMFqdtuh03p/kTOcTI0GeaklL/Dntw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BE15EE2B7EE for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yFNBk5yfuAso for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4EEADE2B7E9 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 09:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QWpkb-0000AM-iv for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:03:18 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:02:17 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini References: <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 755 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2Y4WJk8GRm8A:10 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NyvE7FVZRqXtM28cdJcA:9 a=3IlO_Q86V5NKSOEVB_kA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=kC9-5jVHWwoIQ8Xc:21 a=dDiSk6ja5i03vEXG:21 Hi, In message <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro writes >On Tue 14 Jun 2011 (23:24:32 +0100), flist@pilling.demon.co.uk wrote: >>What happens if you turn off proxy display? (View options) > > I turned off proxies, no change. Of course I didn't expect any change to printing behaviour. What I was interested in was if the document displayed correctly on screen (with proxies off). Someone else brought up the point about incompatible JPEGs. If you set up one of your problem printer drivers to print to file (so not wasting paper), can you print some of the pages in the document. Back to the first point, if some pages don't print, do those same pages render OK on screen with proxies turned off. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 15 18:55:56 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QWuEU-0cxknw-02-9Wv.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:55:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QWuEU-0cxknw-02-9Wv; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:50:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QWuEU-0cxknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:50:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QWuEP-00006W-FR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:50:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD950E2A108; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308160220; bh=AevTwomjTwCzSW0KazV72GFDcC3SoZmHvmgWZG9j oMI=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=c0dAv8ujHivxhvP5kCwXFiPjfdHY2QduirY5vxid8ifLHzHwKo 3hpjKW94kQuDETjFItTrz/7wzZKs1501LSi2LsiGi/Cdl4/VOZp9sOanAKyKKJdApGU Ah5crGGIMnEbTarOTBuqO3mfWVYBcd21oaLs7fI1EIHStshT4Vpgeg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NrWaaDM8GfyH; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DB8A4E2A0B4; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308160219; bh=AevTwomjTwCzSW0KazV72GFDcC3SoZmHvmgWZG9j oMI=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Q0TZZDJvM8o5KaMQPBIEEgVg4ELG7709zmWJjhtL4eWg8ZAbBU HIzKEC0OV5Uq7noLlzgoc94ooK3tPc7HUkhMMKZdWm8YAXR7HPsReYMSLkL+cuoycof 9pmicU0KDF/CcOUAJ0iy4p2hA0bbdGWOq36jfUlO1rwxN+5jy9W4IA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ABE26E2A005 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Y3mIOIbBRWR for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 273E8E2A0D2 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([82.153.195.76]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p5FHnUr9023496 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:49:31 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: \reply: Printing from ArMini To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:49:59 +0100 Message-ID: <0078d7e351.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 756 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Y68MJazqMTwA:10 a=HYLOCJq_QIEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VDRdVoGLC8_5NTpFDpAA:9 a=MvAUQtHOELbP7y7D_CIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=C0EbYUULMJKa-N3g:21 a=2F-_Cn04dvb20WO9:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <2455728.1220334-ovationpro@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Ovation Pro > writes >>On Tue 14 Jun 2011 (23:24:32 +0100), flist@pilling.demon.co.uk wrote: >>>What happens if you turn off proxy display? (View options) >> >> I turned off proxies, no change. > Of course I didn't expect any change to printing behaviour. What I was > interested in was if the document displayed correctly on screen (with > proxies off). > Someone else brought up the point about incompatible JPEGs. If you set > up one of your problem printer drivers to print to file (so not wasting > paper), can you print some of the pages in the document. > Back to the first point, if some pages don't print, do those same pages > render OK on screen with proxies turned off. I find with a lot of camera JPEGS on RO5 on the Iyonix, if I double-click them, launching ChangeFSI, they fail with an error message. I then drop them on Jclean, or edit them with Dplngscn, and the resulting JPEg opens fine. The same unmodified JPEGs fail in OPro, presumably because both use the rendering module, whereas Dplngscn and Jclean have their own code. Do yours do the same thing? -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 16 13:16:55 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QXBJN-1rSGPo-03-9V4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:16:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QXBJN-1rSGPo-03-9V4; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:04:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QXBJN-1rSGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:04:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QXBJJ-0003Oa-9m for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:04:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 079AAE2BBFB; 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Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outbound-queue-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (outbound-queue-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net [212.11.70.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25590E2B62F for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (bonnie.gradwell.net [212.11.70.2]) by outbound-queue-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B5D22064 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from host81-156-198-227.range81-156.btcentralplus.com (HELO Nails.nails.abbeypress.net) (81.156.198.227) (smtp-auth username jim%pop3.archivemag.co.uk, mechanism cram-md5) by outbound-edge-2.mail.thdo.gradwell.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Shrinkwrap and old CFS files To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:01:25 +0100 Message-ID: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df9f13d.a254-2627-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 757 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=snSDXLrX8DsA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cFIxBtaWh57wSsQLvdEA:9 a=DauQN5CmTGlNypkQxgYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 i understand that the Shrinkwrap utility (http://davidpilling.net/sw ) can deal with files compressed with Computer Concepts' old CFS utility. (filetype is CFSlzw = &D96.) however, i can't get my head around how to set it up. i THINK i followed the Shrinkwrap instructions correctly about setting up a "zone" etc, but then doubleclicking one of my old CFS files does nothing. i'm also unclear from the instructions whether the "zone" means that anything i place there will then be compressed. all i want is to UN-compress some old files and leave them uncompressed (now that disk space is plentiful, unlike in 1995). nothing looking like Shrinkwrap appears on the iconbar. is that to be expected? by the way, i managed to run !CFS itself by first setting up a huge ramdisk so that the amount of free ram is more familiar for a 1991-98 program. i have also learnt the hard way that !CFS can make other programs unstable, so save all work before trying to use it. it might save this hassle if i could use Shrinkwrap instead. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 16 13:31:56 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QXBdx-0xQ000-05-9AU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; 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Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:25:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Shrinkwrap and old CFS files To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:25:21 +0100 Message-ID: <42953de451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Gradwell-MongoId: 4df9f631.120e2-2c1b-2 X-Gradwell-Auth-Method: mailbox X-Gradwell-Auth-Credentials: jim@pop3.archivemag.co.uk X-archive-position: 758 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vDZY5vqpEuAA:10 a=zgMBuY7avkoA:10 a=HwlxbFyXazYA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ikLBtwG547gw5v15ESoA:9 a=5NnKld0lDjp21VwVeD8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Jim Nagel wrote on 16 Jun: > i understand that the Shrinkwrap utility (http://davidpilling.net/sw ) > can deal with files compressed with Computer Concepts' old CFS > utility. (filetype is CFSlzw = &D96.) come to think of it, can SparkFS deal with LZW files such as these? that would be even nicer, since SparkFS is on my iconbar already. i notice there are various modules within SparkFS, only some of them enabled. "LZH" is there, unticked, but no visible LZW. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 16 13:46:56 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QXBsk-2Oa000-03-8vh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:46:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QXBsk-2Oa000-03-8vh; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:41:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QXBsk-2Oa000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:41:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QXBsg-0003gC-Um for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:41:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F114E2BD11; 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Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6317E2A8FE for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (178-26-98-203-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.98.203]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LtnUL-1PYBJF1zWv-011AVT; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:40:48 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Shrinkwrap and old CFS files To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> <42953de451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <42953de451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:ZDBOzZP8LwMSyGVtuzyRKD9UJ2LRaocPbfNXzL32d8P ymMVsj0QmEiI4BdOlfVsI8HegpLfQxh6MmQ4xn0doi/2WsiXIX E1XWHiYs3b3NHjdGiIjQbHe9hPcpjSvVWpBPEE6lHyTmQyBZPs rw3kMY7e1NoMyf3AP1qbY+4ccfPIoYU7zHb+Qxp+HnhGgPg7Ew gvkLUdEVSSFWxu9KUsMoQ== X-archive-position: 759 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=zgMBuY7avkoA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EuWaDelEJQd8atShfwEA:9 a=d8KixZsgc623hpuHdY8A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <42953de451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel wrote: > Jim Nagel wrote on 16 Jun: >> i understand that the Shrinkwrap utility (http://davidpilling.net/sw ) >> can deal with files compressed with Computer Concepts' old CFS >> utility. (filetype is CFSlzw = &D96.) > come to think of it, can SparkFS deal with LZW files such as these? LZW is just a compression method, not a file format. CFS happens to use LZW, but so does the humble Squash format, for instance, or the GIF format. SparkFS has no support for CFS files. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 16 14:01:56 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QXC4C-2GYGPo-01-8kF.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:01:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QXC4C-2GYGPo-01-8kF; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:53:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QXC4C-2GYGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:53:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QXC48-00036k-7T for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:53:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6AEBE2BBFF; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:51 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308228771; bh=0FCNTtIcOEDWXNtAJaI0fVXsabRi7e/0LfEeV/92 pFU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=H2FkTcHLQ8LjVZndJtyINsTYx3e5+J1MQkZ3hv5tJXghE+QQ9X j7TUVyvwVhQJNJGLLOWO6xpHZUZOxrl+WCj+gSNkFIbgteNnqHx3+/JW5aFgpDltjLG w7aGBA7H90JMlp+3nvHPKN+aWLpzBFCM2xSm235ue5MjHFKyO1M2VU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z3sG+k1IVQjR; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70472E2A2C9; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1308228770; bh=0FCNTtIcOEDWXNtAJaI0fVXsabRi7e/0LfEeV/92 pFU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=ZJowakybjumn7q1P8vYUNKgcxSpaUS2nlvcL634o9UYw5DvTZO QAQsEIEhnhytBbO06zdNkF9a21Z2nEEPrQ0m44DWTko117nC/Lg72Gkxe2LfO2fVFO6 941uuS7WI4f6VfiwhyL17TT1CvawlFd53UAFGERCqFbwTbfygNgPd4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DCC7E2B30B for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MXyznORpKX8G for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC5D1E2A2C9 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QXC3n-0002E2-as for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:52:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:50:59 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Shrinkwrap and old CFS files References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 760 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wncQhim6uXQA:10 a=zgMBuY7avkoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gmbBG9-_AAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ji5BdkRX7xOacHzeZy4A:9 a=ilyxNgdC63qk99vmMGgA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=kE7KX-3T-WD0g-Yz:21 a=wzxHCl0gGfc3Pe1J:21 Hi, In message <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel writes >i understand that the Shrinkwrap utility (http://davidpilling.net/sw ) >can deal with files compressed with Computer Concepts' old CFS >utility. (filetype is CFSlzw = &D96.) You can't use SparkFS for cc's CFS Compression files. Squash built in to RISC OS uses the same LZW algorithm as CFS, but the specifics of file formats and the codes used in LZW are different. Talking of ShrinkWrap - it won't appear on the icon bar. You need to make sure the relevant modules are loaded. I would also expect the desktop filers to cache information, so once ShrinkWrap is active you will then have to open the desktop filers - then you should see CFS files replaced by what it is that was compressed into them. >i'm also unclear from the instructions whether the "zone" means that >anything i place there will then be compressed. all i want is to >UN-compress some old files and leave them uncompressed (now that disk >space is plentiful, unlike in 1995). Quoting the docs: ========================================== *ShrinkWrapAddZone Adds an area to the ShrinkWrap zone Syntax: *ShrinkWrapAddZone [all|none|some] If the 'all' parameter is added, all files will be compressed. i.e. the file type control will not be used. If the 'none' parameter is added, no files will be compressed, other than those which already are compressed. If the 'some' parameter is added, then file types are used. The default setting i.e. if there is no final parameter is 'some'. =========================================== You have a choice, regarding compression, you can turn it off. There are a number of *commands which will let you see if you've got the zone set up correctly and which file type modules are loaded. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 761 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=W7u2wDmI89gA:10 a=UdYGZtpeL9oA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=nAhUSiWrQNiTq3S9fhQA:9 a=wbxQjLdTsdbqAO09ZdMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=eEm3GASNepD4HGbw:21 a=X9Pl5qZimAT5hkty:21 Hi, Someone tells me that DPScan does a type 5 crash on the armini. Seemingly one loads a sprite and then saves it, the file is saved but my program crashes. To be specific "Saving it as a sprite (ie just moving it in and out again), or as jpeg, BMP, EPS, or PBM all give the type 5 error, but saving as PNG or TIFF don't." I wonder if anyone else has this problem. It is difficult for me to know if many people are regularly using DPScan on the armini. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Tank X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:18:55 +0100 Message-ID: <76e074ec51.tank@tankstage.co.uk> References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Tank Stage Lighting User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:+D7uJUijYMEcoJUmWjcyj49NX0SsUrKSW9/Zt8gB0FL Ru3ah8pSYc4ooAtwhZPxIY/uwKZnIX+VUV+hmvKQtFlug+BvTQ Ek6S3SMK8MclWoK5E6dVDwt8k7evr55AcPj3OMJM07l08IsYpp TlQMCo5wLCXNKl+cZtI1JVW2cMUmbCFvDLuK6/PSoM43y0rfNW nTM5ljz5FvkgEI/TOvflw== X-archive-position: 762 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: webmaster@tankstage.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9IeoosT2N7gA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=ywlwrmdOJ28A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=S7HuWUnIbK4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=pzQaSaUXAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ZaomZagvEAjnxeune9MA:9 a=31VsLpEMZrbg1U2u3EkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zI4j7KUV0q0A:10 a=ph8Ehcbq660f-XFj:21 a=jKgqWoVMgmNg_O7O:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > Someone tells me that DPScan does a type 5 crash on the armini. > Seemingly one loads a sprite and then saves it, the file is saved but my > program crashes. A quick load and save on the Beagleboard Xm is fine. Also turning on doubleclick for the sprite type works as it should. > To be specific > "Saving it as a sprite (ie just moving it in and out again), or as > jpeg, BMP, EPS, or PBM all give the type 5 error, but saving as PNG or > TIFF don't." Saving as any of the above also works fine. > I wonder if anyone else has this problem. It is difficult for me to know > if many people are regularly using DPScan on the armini. 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Message-ID: <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 763 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=KysNizeX6EuVea0nz9EA:9 a=654tF7_T9Tb4m09VBqgA:7 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 Hi David I'll give it a bit of a workout later today. It didn't say in the original whether the problem was only with alignment exceptions on, or with them off as well. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 2 13:18:12 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Qcyys-2WDGPo-04-GNl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:18:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Qcyys-2WDGPo-04-GNl; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:07:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Qcyys-2WDGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:07:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Qcyym-0002YY-2G for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:07:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B18CE31331; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:17 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309608437; bh=BSoGpKU/ESbuYMCanbD9ZOeX2W+ewcPKoKo+SrlH 1Dg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=hsPO/B TDwN6OFKVZ4cpD0ymDQ8xj41Y5/6Q1zXf1+mSadf6ReM4wMHaQ1Rv2C1e+WgFtoiDqp sqTjJecCiprOsQ/FweOibXkRj4L4YlvSq8T9p7mLQAkFMLsg88UIGuUt83U6uaFBXOZ iH4PVfifU7SHOvQuO9nCFAt7lI23xGU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KzRPVNC-WmdB; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9F75E3132B; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309608436; bh=BSoGpKU/ESbuYMCanbD9ZOeX2W+ewcPKoKo+SrlH 1Dg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=P7QaFm Vxv+uk3BIvo6n6dgj/yqiV00MxTotdBZy+jZKjpc1H5jEsWTD9ZFs3BhOsxbGEhCqDD hfg5e9H9D92Ts0KhM5qvIfQwHsC13a//9rFU+OafdQXSBmIjMLqkizKet5/0EF9PFrO JF53YfyUdX22pzNLqFdaSPe/u45YXkA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:07:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3CE8E3132C for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k-+KMmTeYEJz for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D44DE3132B for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:07:01 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqUIANwID07Unw4U/2dsb2JhbABSmQ+OcneIfMFlhjYEly6LPw Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2011 13:07:01 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1QcyyS-0006ZL-Oq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:07:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:06:32 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan + ARMini -> crash? Message-ID: <51ec793c23chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5f643be451.jim@nails.abbeypress.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 764 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=lkOh7kUN-UahpZTIZ9wA:9 a=HyNYenx4IiAxwB9eZl0A:7 a=js8xB63DceuuSMaP:21 a=Rin0o_TVn1x_zB1X:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Someone tells me that DPScan does a type 5 crash on the armini. > Seemingly one loads a sprite and then saves it, the file is saved > but my program crashes. I can confirm this behaviour. Using v. 1.25 (14 Apr 2010). I have done some simple editing on the sprite - that seems fine, but gives a type 5 after saving. The sprite is saved correctly and can be reloaded etc afterwards. I haven't tried any other formats yet. The error occurs whether alignment exceptions are on or off. I had as little as possible running apart from !Dplingscan. I am not sure with DPlingscan's error handling whether turning on or off exceptions will make any difference. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 2 16:56:27 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1QczCk-2Q3GPo-06-G9t.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:56:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1QczCk-2Q3GPo-06-G9t; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:21:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1QczCk-2Q3GPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:21:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1QczCg-0003Er-Va for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:21:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3EFFE313A5; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:40 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309609300; bh=bufqmPpkmw2GQNQV4XrCYHRVtDe6QacqvS28yvpj puI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=ZPGB/DNfm0a5NKMYa3rVOf3OMfOTZe1q/IvfQRGpQLK5U+ujRo WeHJH2BshU7oatdvZVCLA8gTMdIni3VWNavkbLl9IapTwOGzG5dOmQcdvStaLHj2go0 JDhlAH9kLPVibeUWehPGp789Zo6+975u3X/LJvtSEZL/nxeM9hITZo= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dql3CBcUiRbb; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D69FBE31351; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309609299; bh=bufqmPpkmw2GQNQV4XrCYHRVtDe6QacqvS28yvpj puI=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Ak+uC7INtdSyKYZJlQw05J3JeQNZZrogTJp+HBcLhe5740//GZ RIBGL9Eb36sz3NuHvqH+SSa5mpbDAPe8jFLve0EmgDUq1mlx6hHR0UqH1EepN206eKi NWrdlr6vLRiKpf4rocv14CFsJ/WWr9V2NBHCuq5uHzisNf4Imizrbw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5344E3135D for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B3RKrGR2Vj91 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2AD07E31351 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1QczCP-0006Cf-ZY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:21:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:21:10 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan + ARMini -> crash? References: <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 765 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=czS9lqcqQEUA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LnJBMlNtlagZbRDIrdYA:9 a=YleydMS_uNyI4ZBXHBIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=f_nvcvJc1k0aGhSq:21 a=6M_pHfret_omcvq2:21 Hi, In message <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >I'll give it a bit of a workout later today. It didn't say in the >original whether the problem was only with alignment exceptions on, >or with them off as well. Thanks for the later report. Very interesting. I've had the chap do a *showregs and I can't see why it is crashing where it is. R15 is pointing at a BLT command and there are no loads or stores to invalid addresses nearby. (For show regs to be any use to me you'd have to be using the version I have code for, but presumably you could unsqueeze, load, disassemble your copy). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:54:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:MVP13GSTtV1LypTG7B86NJw2MPqZFKX8shhUmxMFCU+ 8BLCMX4b8tn7DXMxkKie/Gv0ClWMaY1MtWw1NSzq2U/GpsHxsP ZZZPMQ2OUvMZ3HCO9jOmGwi0Eu7srP859XcHj6a/4OI/egO9RV dJ0yrhZemRcwHh1NqrBJs0pdhHB7Vda+7opp+GvkkxIqO4FJLw IAfQxDZrYafu96FCh3fpQ== X-archive-position: 766 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n8CY3aZOSOYA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=PhaTGST-Xv8A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=UiHvSpAEqpMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=oW8g9YNn8x58XLKhIqQA:9 a=wesGNsXZ3u74aamyhBYA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=5RxNDWdAFwsU-wM3:21 a=tsFF3YCQfagKcb5s:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes >>I'll give it a bit of a workout later today. It didn't say in the >>original whether the problem was only with alignment exceptions on, >>or with them off as well. > Thanks for the later report. Very interesting. > I've had the chap do a *showregs and I can't see why it is crashing > where it is. > R15 is pointing at a BLT command and there are no loads or stores to > invalid addresses nearby. The aborting instruction would be the one two instructions ahead of the BLT, but as you say, it cannot be invalid since it is a PC relative LDR with an aligned offset. Still, if you look at the register contents, you can see that the LDR R6 three instructions before the BLT has indeed happened whereas the LDR R5 after it has not, so everything points to this instruction causing the abort. > (For show regs to be any use to me you'd have to be using the version I > have code for, but presumably you could unsqueeze, load, disassemble > your copy). Even easier to just grab the application's memory using Zap while it is running. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 2 16:56:50 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Qd2SI-049knw-03-CuL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:56:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Qd2SI-049knw-03-CuL; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:50:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Qd2SI-049knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:50:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Qd2SE-0000jU-9i for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:50:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2DE84E31651; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:56 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309621796; bh=vyarlIQzQTkdRsA9IvjiCMtH8n4y0GN7nxOIQ24C 8Wc=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=wX6Ghd z76oUZUCn297gK/7O75FwmgkNBRk9cMRzUe/0xaUSRTZ3F4FL3467/PVL8LnYPDh0Zg sLkdNzUpSaO2fu5mc+8sdmlJeqPAx9z7J5gfaQSEh1zp7EHKEUyjjVSKvc7Gq0BUUUU vXrArK55jYPCRWRoUkUJbOOSO7NKFqA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HnLOjChH6DnA; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61767E2F6F2; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309621795; bh=vyarlIQzQTkdRsA9IvjiCMtH8n4y0GN7nxOIQ24C 8Wc=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Zp3Lhd x22GZA32SyRIZc2F4YIli8OgisOvFvi4/kfMPpEIu1CPfTqF7VtioFF8rP0tg+gm/YB jmCygr/MJG9he8uA8jQFLgBuWC/I6IsodIp9xTp6w5yblSvloqlZliDGxjHWyhpjW4p 2KWZ0UfyHDUDnlyld+J9H5NpmIis1Ko= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A3A3E2F711 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hc9+O3aqqols for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77C24E2F6F2 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:49:41 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQJABQ9D05UXebr/2dsb2JhbABSmQ+OcneIfMEThjYEly6LPw Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2011 16:49:40 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Qd2Ng-0007gz-G3 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:45:04 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan + ARMini -> crash? Message-ID: <51ec8d3e53chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 767 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eiRTcOgpoWwA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=9VIJKtUKhZVHgpkF-dMA:9 a=4kb0Mz-vk-Q-8ZH922IA:7 a=8zc9ijrT04GAcoqb:21 a=jG6seq1O3QtBWLwK:21 Not wishing to muddy the waters ... but here goes. I cannot get DPscan to crash every time I run it. I unfortunately cannot yet see any common factor other than if DPscan is running on a 'clean' system, it is quite likely to crash, whereas if a few other apps are booted first, it often loads and saves without problem. I have just loaded a number of images (sprite and tiff), and saving after some minor editing (eg scale down, increase contrast using the histogram display) was working fine. Reboot the system and launch only DPScan, and the save problem came back. The last one gave the following: *where Address &00090438 is in application space *showregs Register dump (stored at &2000E8AC) is: R0 = 0000001A R1 = FFFFFFF5 R2 = FFFFFFFF R3 = FFFFFFFF R4 = 00000000 R5 = 000D5A4C R6 = 000C8A88 R7 = 000085B8 R8 = 000D3D88 R9 = 000D3F84 R10 = 000D4870 R11 = 000D556C R12 = FFFFFFF5 R13 = 000D5548 R14 = 0000001A R15 = 00090438 Mode USR32 flags set: nZCvqjggggeAift PSR = 60000110 The instruction at 90438 is BLT &00090484, I assume this is the same one that David and Martin have mentioned. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jul 2 17:26:44 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Qd2ns-1ROVbs-07-CYl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:26:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Qd2ns-1ROVbs-07-CYl; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:12:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Qd2ns-1ROVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:12:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Qd2np-0005H5-1Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4870AE31892; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:12:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309623135; bh=7EFxZhEC543srpSnI2iy6ZgLN5NSOvAlWZtAXZ+2 JSM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=b/rR4s0MLTD15rV4o6cnFWcKCPOftryNX8Rqhwz3pLgQij0NZP ynOt7H+X88QnFWeJoih+jdirLLWdn2C6MWbe/BAfXERet42Vn7wJ7uvIL88FNDxVhWb U9AAO3SNW6hxESgJ5k8UsJYjtjc+hsfDttOGlZg4lHXZyRBiLlhIus= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QEgF4jFz3Od7; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 812A3E314C6; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1309623134; bh=7EFxZhEC543srpSnI2iy6ZgLN5NSOvAlWZtAXZ+2 JSM=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nrru4/zAA7KaA+P5xr/SFDWHdxIL3TxSjSWjHupYygVYAObtax 3IlIW6CkIhuTzL0s+cOcO+rQ4uGcfHf87VeGJtUoB+V318KQGTqOgKlipUEpvuFHqLk yvk2GvAh2fm8faxK5kJzWjINjP8cZPBYYlPDmZbjy06opQgz36/1v0= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D533E317E1 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLhadVvoPHlh for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C921FE314C6 for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Qd2nW-0000sn-cD for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 16:11:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 17:10:43 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPScan + ARMini -> crash? References: <51ec77cf33chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 768 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q3-xBrhn1vMA:10 a=45D6l4_g-5wA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PoW4tPdHugmuwoY0M7oA:9 a=Azl4J-Jys7zuK-tHg6oA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=eMTEoGg8LBAx5WiZ:21 a=3N_9GcSL2Fk3j1_a:21 Hi, In message , Martin Wuerthner writes >The aborting instruction would be the one two instructions ahead of >the BLT, but as you say, it cannot be invalid since it is a PC >relative LDR with an aligned offset. Still, if you look at the >register contents, you can see that the LDR R6 three instructions >before the BLT has indeed happened whereas the LDR R5 after it has >not, so everything points to this instruction causing the abort. So? I have roughly assumed this is a load from inside the memory space of the program, and that such memory is read/write allowed. Perhaps I need to be more precise. This is code that is used a lot, it is inside the main poll loop. It will have been executed thousands of times before it fails. It has occurred to me that the bug is over writing this area, and then the corrupted code crashes. Can we actually grab the memory after the crash. Chris - thanks for all the help. The person who reported the bug, said it was happening immediately after boot, as you say a clean machine. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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