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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:14:21 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF To: davidpilling@freelists.org Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:14:33 GMT Message-ID: <98f54caf51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <7427e9ae51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> <51af253ef3riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 573 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7GzYzAudr4wI7Lpp0BAA:9 a=zsmfIVYfzF59RHGEi90A:7 a=uvxsMwZSTma0fzBYcYdXyQW3DtIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5G_ZcUxS2xUc9ROJ:21 a=-l7_sE4oSQMOS-Sg:21 In message Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 5 Mar, M Harding wrote in message > <51af253ef3riscos@mdharding.org.uk>: >> In article <7427e9ae51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, >> Alan Adams wrote: > Neither RISCOS nor Windows use proper ISO 8859-1: the standard does not > define characters between 128 and 159. Both RISC OS and Windows use those > undefined characters for adding glyphs that are not in the Latin1 charset, > but not surprisingly they each use them in their own non-standard ways. > The characters on RISC OS that are affected include smart quotes and the > various dashes. > The solution to your problem is to download the .doc file, load it into > Easi/TechWriter and export plain text from that. I already do that, using Writer - is there better text export from the full Easiwriter, or an option to convert smart quotes etc to plain ones? The Writer route doesn't work. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 18:23:32 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pvw63-148GPo-03-8aW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:23:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pvw63-148GPo-03-8aW; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:20:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pvw63-148GPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:20:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pvw5y-0006w7-S6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:20:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 91C56DAB9B9; 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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E58A6DAB858 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.78.117]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p25IKCOY003475 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:20:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 08:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af1b4cb4dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <+sivyOGCQVcNFw6Y@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <+sivyOGCQVcNFw6Y@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 574 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=I7W_CVz08Yy9rzT1YREA:9 a=_4-ImpuXXT3ujs77C_wA:7 a=Tl5uMOh-KmnKLzrGqwBg7UCx2N4A:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=UI93xHSa7SaVfuln:21 a=bwW09VNfxi435fjS:21 In article <+sivyOGCQVcNFw6Y@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >Previously she was using sexless quotes, but now using OvPro has taken > >to using sexed quotes. > There is a quotes applet, it lets you turn on and off the automatic > entry of sexy quotes as you type. It will let you add or remove them to > a marked block of text. > The other thing to know is that there is a choices option Text->smart > quotes which controls just sexy quotes on text file import. Yeeees, and? Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 19:08:33 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PvwiD-2j4Vbs-08-GUs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:08:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PvwiD-2j4Vbs-08-GUs; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PvwiD-2j4Vbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PvwiA-0001e0-W6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 08EEDDAB377; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:17 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299351617; bh=DO24Q0t9N8ngp1tuVro3h59NyDpMGoYUF5SpexWT moU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=CpPOvN fwdvNhiJKZC6pYj82E2bTDZvua8Me3gox4gEsB+RK4+zsj2ty7Aetm19Rs31LldRMh2 7C5Iq6n160Ga7hV5y3jnwh9tBw68KmSL9elJoB7xJYr6GKTqj+nhh9WNufBeFs1Z26E yRwMiumlxCnl1puPhDARQf0vklFRAlM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iCMpfzNMe5E; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6625DDAAAA3; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:03 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299351616; bh=DO24Q0t9N8ngp1tuVro3h59NyDpMGoYUF5SpexWT moU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=tsmztp 07Wb18jrnT8wU+r1ppVARlc8fI7Df5hTeMNq6Ko6xFUKBMiVmvEN9CoQk0Cjb9RQhki jZ14+uYGPBkhjiO62fulfaGUPy0/As5QT4SAu2pL8B1NhJF1Box+s7hImup3y7wkYkj TjiPF+ENVTuynRZZGAg4NtFP2muT4Tc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:00:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D41ADAAAC9 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nrGJGVDZdvgA for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0A1CDAAAA3 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.78.117]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p25IxhSh004102 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:59:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:33:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af5439cadave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <86412baf51.chris@o2.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <86412baf51.chris@o2.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=sScr6U9RAAAA:8 a=cFVgxdPbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=fOMGT_fnu4mI9A7irCIA:9 a=ldgq1QI_3lYWnazPgo0A:7 a=1AWaPVxo3BY4gtXMxDxoOATGQswA:4 a=uM05R_bXrMoA:10 a=SMhshsXvcj4A:10 a=kVHz_wjI_-rB_LLp:21 a=nYNccXZxe0G6nzo2:21 In article <86412baf51.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes wrote: [Snippy] > You have smart quotes on by default in OPro. Goto Opro Icon and menu > over it then Choices and under the TEXT tab is the option to turn off > Smart Quotes, (remember to SAVE the change) > Location of these smart quotes in different locations in the character > sets. Sorry, this is all missing the point. We know smart quotes are on, she wants them on, we made sure they were on, the publisher in the US wants them on. We do know how to switch 'em on and off thanks. Dave Don't forget either, the RTF output from OvPro is au-natural Invisible in Word until you mess with the formatting. D. -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 19:08:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PvwiR-1pt000-04-GUe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:08:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PvwiR-1pt000-04-GUe; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PvwiR-1pt000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PvwiM-0003VK-Jl for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56E03DAB3D5; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299351620; bh=159xN5RVWplPP3o4Bs+TBBSgPv20LqPAdtSEZ/0Z kRg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=o+OebT 0gtBd5UUZ05giw3Q7F+IzA4CgrE+kMvG0q4SwxTaMg39aaddxkSOXH6+JLFaiFSDfqV nA7U4rfoCRbVyzfCTFSmEcgVMDt8xZxJPycU87Gf55iDlAtOJroU2iBAZzQytkGqNLk wRFTAX6FCTDL6SmNZ9DcXy/NwNy6bjA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BGKOUiti1jUV; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5E0BDAADB1; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299351617; bh=159xN5RVWplPP3o4Bs+TBBSgPv20LqPAdtSEZ/0Z kRg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=lh8bWC jzdKu+kfBZx5wd5Q0KRTHPrVnOLvgMEJJC07JK+PyClx6DuMPUQKneIj6JkZyYP8SaU nO1I+YqcnfbK4PPqxMsA4wyBfO3aF9W9DBBnDH1q0dXXcYJ40x5c0RjGTDtt+ELNGiS P29wPZKfV21c5IGYE+R0Gv203zMz2Lo= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9BC71DAAFDE for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jDOP-KjMPr1W for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FBF4DAADB1 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.78.117]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p25IxhSj004102 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:59:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:46:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af5561d0dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <86412baf51.chris@o2.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 577 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=sScr6U9RAAAA:8 a=cFVgxdPbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=b_e449QpvBqeIUmxYP0A:9 a=PPh7eotZkzp1J0nSR2AA:7 a=ofUwVpFRo7eAc-0zln_DPLfEdRIA:4 a=uM05R_bXrMoA:10 a=SMhshsXvcj4A:10 a=EpFg5YIR6QsO4F3c:21 a=NUNctXHWy2OoB2-K:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <86412baf51.chris@o2.co.uk>, Chris Hughes > writes > >You have smart quotes on by default in OPro. Goto Opro Icon and menu > >over it then Choices and under the TEXT tab is the option to turn off > >Smart Quotes, (remember to SAVE the change) > Can I say that only changes text file import. > I'd not quite taken in the importance of import from foreign file > formats. Changing translation tables in various places is a good idea. > Another idea would be to set up a bulk search / replace like the fluff > applet, so you'd have one click before exporting. How would that be done, when I look at Fluff in the on screen Ov document applets list I see no arrow pointing to any configs etc. If it means writing a script of some sort and sticking that inside the Fluff applet. Sounds of strange laughter resound around this office. Fay has rushed to the cupboard for my straight Jacket... Yes well that won't happen, I wouldn't know where to start. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 19:08:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PvwiX-1A7000-05-GUY.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:08:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PvwiX-1A7000-05-GUY; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PvwiX-1A7000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PvwiW-0005v0-CS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:00:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6C10DAB479; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.78.117]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p25IxhSl004102 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:59:47 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:59:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 578 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YdZeHY0e-ksR-ezPlU4A:9 a=azaMVcX4-vTS2BqQIQEA:7 a=EV5lW2H6TU8izHDzsJs5XyjcVNwA:4 In article <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu>, Martin Devon wrote: [Snip] > If you change !MakeRTF.!Runimage as below, handed double quotes > handed single quotes and diphthongs will be replaced with simple > equivalents. > DEFFNtext(f%) > REM Read Text Object > LOCAL c%,t$ > t$="" > c%=BGET#f% > WHILE c%<>ASC("""") > IF c%=ASC("\") THEN c%=BGET#f% > CASE c% OF > WHEN 158:t$+="fi" > WHEN 159:t$+="fl" > WHEN 148,149:t$+=CHR$34 > WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" > WHEN 230:t$+="ae" > OTHERWISE t$+=CHR$(c%) > ENDCASE > c%=BGET#f% > ENDWHILE > =t$ > HTH > Martin Interesting thought Martin, thanks, but doesn't really answer the problem. She needs the sexed quotes, that's why they are on. MakeRTF needs to translate ' 144 to be 145 and ' 145 to be 146. Similarly " 148 to be 147 and " 149 to be 147 when it creates the RTF file. Could it do that? 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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:24:32 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnYHAFMdck3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbACYbY18dL1RhWIE Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2011 19:24:18 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Pvx5O-000778-13 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:24:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:24:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 580 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=G5VSOpnXKpj0r9Y8QQMA:9 a=93MRTJnjsCrZ06CXHUEA:7 a=zTSOk4G6SwTH1zoxmqZgyf69E6IA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=fg14rNI-bXhxIXNN:21 a=0yfkNHjpWCu5_vHs:21 In article <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu>, > Martin Devon wrote: > [Snip] > > If you change !MakeRTF.!Runimage as below, handed double quotes > > handed single quotes and diphthongs will be replaced with simple > > equivalents. > > DEFFNtext(f%) > > REM Read Text Object > > LOCAL c%,t$ > > t$="" > > c%=BGET#f% > > WHILE c%<>ASC("""") > > IF c%=ASC("\") THEN c%=BGET#f% > > CASE c% OF > > WHEN 158:t$+="fi" > > WHEN 159:t$+="fl" > > WHEN 148,149:t$+=CHR$34 > > WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" > > WHEN 230:t$+="ae" > > OTHERWISE t$+=CHR$(c%) > > ENDCASE > > c%=BGET#f% > > ENDWHILE > > =t$ > > HTH > > Martin > Interesting thought Martin, thanks, but doesn't really answer the > problem. She needs the sexed quotes, that's why they are on. > MakeRTF needs to translate ' 144 to be 145 and ' 145 to be 146. > Similarly " 148 to be 147 and " 149 to be 147 when it creates the > RTF file. > Could it do that? Change the above FN to contain for example WHEN 144:t$+=CHR$145 WHEN 145:t$+=CHR$146 WHEN 148:t$+=CHR$147 WHEN 149:t$+=CHR$147 (do you want 148 and 149 to be 147?) instead of the line WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 21:23:38 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pvyoo-2PP000-03-EOH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:23:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pvyoo-2PP000-03-EOH; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:15:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pvyoo-2PP000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:15:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pvyoj-0001sH-Mn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:15:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C24EDDAB9AC; 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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AA9C0DAA873 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.78.117]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p25LEX84006167 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:14:34 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 21:14:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 582 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lNgH3ZbZZ7EA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FPSk0_Y0_MNbQM-pPmQA:9 a=Ift0vRiyN8D4Y2QGydEA:7 a=0a5YzZPbSG2V8SwT1ru4nOuzmWgA:4 In article <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: [Snippy] > Change the above FN to contain for example > WHEN 144:t$+=CHR$145 > WHEN 145:t$+=CHR$146 > WHEN 148:t$+=CHR$147 > WHEN 149:t$+=CHR$147 (do you want 148 and 149 to be 147?) > instead of the line > WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" Good catch, typo on my part should be 149 to be 148 Thanks for the thoughts Chris. That seems to have solved the problem, most excellent, give that man a prize, Fay says thanks to everyone. But... This has thrown up another problem I've encountered with MakeRTF in the past, maybe because of RO 6.20... Who knows... I'll illuminate. If !MakeRTF is run, then OvPro is only run later it doesn't work. If I load OvPro/file to Icon bar then double click !MakeModes, then do the Save as RTF, then the output file does have the changes. If I now quit OvPro, then re-Run it, any Save as RTF is without the changes. Double click !MakeRTF and the output now again contains the changes. I find this a strange behaviour, anyone have any thought/suggestion on this? Or is that the way it's supposed to work? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 5 22:08:40 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pvzdl-16Y000-07-DZK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:08:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pvzdl-16Y000-07-DZK; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:07:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pvzdl-16Y000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:07:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pvzdi-0004Zl-0t for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:07:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 39CCDDAB651; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299362872; bh=oSGD7YrvWQzyM7xQRVAnXfsWPYvYmEPlFYWMIafT QlY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=LXf9zvjE5SUEbpLmutuPbM3yoJssNqfQWNDeW2tz97q3W3GY4C qZmiMw1uwbfBrJY4YH+gAdhLipnIx/DuyqwXk88z1FLQwuriKGycPBwwiWKRx+b3XAZ fPcLwz9IVoVzdIu+MXTkExdkXSVp9O9MGbRlC7c4JDY+BBD/9KhEBQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ImKPEHwl+ljX; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7304FDAB3C4; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299362871; bh=oSGD7YrvWQzyM7xQRVAnXfsWPYvYmEPlFYWMIafT QlY=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nDqN0j9uyw2N5UCqSFWvmTwTxhBu5MEHx04kUpfx8+RvtC1oV7 J0RVcDaMMPq6R0zsoZ3vyuTf7jf1fnsOCYcVEzbvqMRfdH/nbhIu+pNt5qBEGuPB/HP njU+n9pHgMp1uJYTVowTAzUdkj+FYBRzsTRzKzsQVl/huyBOp+q+EE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:07:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4FFF7DAB3C9 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f+rNwDJYwiMW for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCDC2DAB3C4 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PvzdQ-0004Y0-c0 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:07:36 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:06:33 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 583 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JAOoTlfldStQcHfnnaoA:9 a=ijdvNJI6vR7cwUIgMToA:7 a=_2x5PBktzB_dgSo1SP0Z0lwR_bgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=DICSy4pqESWPkomL:21 a=u-majQga7mfvNnwP:21 Hi, In message <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >If !MakeRTF is run, then OvPro is only run later it doesn't work. Maybe another copy of MakeRTF inside OP, people like to put things in the Autorun folder (not my idea). Well done to Chris for getting this right, I misunderstood. The "code" (scary) in fluff is quite simple, a list of function calls with text to search and text to replace. But getting MakeRTF right is a much better solution. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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I had a look at the OP code. Once long ago, I looked if JPEG_PlotTransformed.was supported and then called it if so. I've commented out that code. What worries me is if I turned off the code for a good reason. I can only imagine something like support claimed but not provided. I can easily put this back. Otherwise Martin is doing a Microsoft, adding features to the OS that he can use in his own applications, that no one else knows about. Meanwhile. I've demo'd the JPEG problem from Basic on Beagle. I'm seeking some advice on the ROOL forum. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15A5DDAB931 for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:43:20 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,269,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="491831651" Received: from unknown (HELO Alpha) ([82.152.145.38]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2011 22:43:15 +0000 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:43:15 +0000 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <20110305224315.7f04ab7f@Alpha> In-Reply-To: <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 585 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cgbXpW3mhp8tf1JR_fwA:9 a=oa1ZpkwCNhZGYhjIY0kA:7 a=Iwi-ORgcGflqtY8WzYTS_Yb5W28A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=8GlIAA3k0rGArX8Q:21 a=icBRfBytwHBEDrAc:21 On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:24:06 +0000 (GMT) Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu>, > > Martin Devon wrote: > > > [Snip] > > > > If you change !MakeRTF.!Runimage as below, handed double quotes > > > handed single quotes and diphthongs will be replaced with simple > > > equivalents. > > > > DEFFNtext(f%) > > > REM Read Text Object > > > LOCAL c%,t$ > > > t$="" > > > c%=BGET#f% > > > WHILE c%<>ASC("""") > > > IF c%=ASC("\") THEN c%=BGET#f% > > > CASE c% OF > > > WHEN 158:t$+="fi" > > > WHEN 159:t$+="fl" > > > WHEN 148,149:t$+=CHR$34 > > > WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" > > > WHEN 230:t$+="ae" > > > OTHERWISE t$+=CHR$(c%) > > > ENDCASE > > > c%=BGET#f% > > > ENDWHILE > > > =t$ > > > > HTH > > > > Martin > > > Interesting thought Martin, thanks, but doesn't really answer the > > problem. She needs the sexed quotes, that's why they are on. > > > MakeRTF needs to translate ' 144 to be 145 and ' 145 to be 146. > > > Similarly " 148 to be 147 and " 149 to be 147 when it creates the > > RTF file. > > > Could it do that? > > Change the above FN to contain for example > > WHEN 144:t$+=CHR$145 > WHEN 145:t$+=CHR$146 > WHEN 148:t$+=CHR$147 > WHEN 149:t$+=CHR$147 (do you want 148 and 149 to be 147?) > > instead of the line > WHEN 144,145:t$+="'" > Chris has replied for me, and as can be seen it's very simple to isolate any input character and output anything you like in its place, a single character or group of characters. I've actually used this technique to add control codes to text to add component labels on a computer-controlled saw. Martin -- Martin R Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wiltshire, UK RISC OS in the timber-frame housing industry To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 11:48:04 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pw6sx-19yknw-01-Eqe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:48:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pw6sx-19yknw-01-Eqe; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:52:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pw6sx-19yknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:52:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pw6so-0003pE-RI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:52:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2E6F4DA8E30; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299390715; bh=D5HE7lRz1hiFRiyiDYQStKxqv4eP0vASx1GRKt6b Lio=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Xc6PxP 475VgJeEDDWZ5abxZbiQGFeJSDHpN2ki4jx9639WFlDXrrzrYVA9nt/7gnvxfvFKnjd M2RRKjOk032vodrkWPEDqVimwcPokSlwJmfadAiTM49nroW+q/4kiUAsiMtS2iAz8IZ bGaJn8OGAH3fUj9ntHvWwiznj/OoeJg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DVDWcs7bWbq8; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77FFADA800D; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:41 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299390714; bh=D5HE7lRz1hiFRiyiDYQStKxqv4eP0vASx1GRKt6b Lio=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=CuOBXI dHNpnsN4jatte8EbfSsp09DsJZVwukoCUzfZMyF/dZsN5+XX2yVO5/LvdroJFGEzfrb 7aJEzuRvPmauCVnLt+MsqIYfbo8wdqyokSLUn3VKrt/v5QXhWiqMiVW35pa1Ayj5rkp AIQjhUHQCpGkLoC3Tb2YMtyLg4ZOeLo= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:51:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46315DA8303 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ZZYPbPAVJ7a for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F21EDA800D for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.166.196]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p265pIN6017146 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:51:19 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:37:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af90f660dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110305224315.7f04ab7f@Alpha> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <20110305224315.7f04ab7f@Alpha> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 587 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=POhHXwP5AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TozT_LencGUX6_iqNdkA:9 a=wA0RzyR-U80to5bqBUAA:7 a=9yKCty8C8SoAu44Hl9k31L3C3ZUA:4 In article <20110305224315.7f04ab7f@Alpha>, Martin Devon wrote: [Snippy] > Chris has replied for me, and as can be seen it's very simple to isolate > any input character and output anything you like in its place, a single > character or group of characters. I've actually used this technique to > add control codes to text to add component labels on a > computer-controlled saw. > Martin And thanks for your first setup posting. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 11:48:06 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pw7ON-0C5GPo-04-ELE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:48:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pw7ON-0C5GPo-04-ELE; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:24:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pw7ON-0C5GPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:24:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pw7OI-000516-AX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:24:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75E77DA90FA; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:27 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299392667; bh=Gshm/j+qInlEzsmoP2qyJZfbqdxPplGGfk4G16cj ql4=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=V3pN0Xj0nIxzd1KtpFED16Y0CtLk5IKvW2rFkYHaj4cGR5e8gf EouDHQUWtVe4ElSUL8WZjSNn3/i/ft/d+B0scKWoOeIhgv02XTOmTAN5kBrMR2CxgDD zygk6gRGxW6HB1BD+AaWDKoD8qEl7oZ36g2xoXUS+q4kxoiirGS554= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DqLukIe0M5VN; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 97979DA83D1; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299392666; bh=Gshm/j+qInlEzsmoP2qyJZfbqdxPplGGfk4G16cj ql4=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Sjfnkv4/Ac3HFZKxTwb43J1k5/suIK2FsoQauoBMPSdFE37QGY zV+Zro1j0npzb14Tu99NZ/kkzRtk/wyxQVsDX63lhRP4/ZycIn2g0oMoUNoy/1GFu3B 1ceelHqgSBtBVkVpeGz98qsSD7HvLWPU1BplXjFNUY9NiVC3puTNdA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:24:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6DF0ADA8F90 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w0sn-s3spICP for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 098C5DA8F88 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.166.196]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p266No8E017613 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:23:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:14:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 588 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lNgH3ZbZZ7EA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=V8LkFAiVsWQ5qAGjXEoA:9 a=Potn9GXMB9gRsg-6g_AA:7 a=1jMdOBbVGJbjrobZJIFdtgZ56-cA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=jw0l-7bdWE8vkNUb:21 a=je-ltDMFGWMZx0mt:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >If !MakeRTF is run, then OvPro is only run later it doesn't work. > Maybe another copy of MakeRTF inside OP, people like to put things in > the Autorun folder (not my idea). Sorry Chief me thicko injun. ;-) Do you mean I should put a copy of MakeRTF inside the Autorun folder? Or do you mean I should look in there for another copy of MakeRTF that possibly shouldn't be there? Anyway... There obviously wasn't a copy in there (I'm not that thick) so just in the spirit of experimentation, I put a copy in there and Ran OvPro. Didn't make any difference at all. OvPro "Save as" RTF output a file that was sans the required changes. I double clicked MakeRTF, did a "Save as" and the output file did contain the changes. Normally I have !MakeRTF in the Boot.Choices "Lookat" and "Run" but that doesn't make any difference either, as it will only work if MakeRTF is Run after OvPro. It appears to this thicko, that OvPro when it is Run, is not seeing that MakeRTF is already active. So why might that be? Probably MakeRTF not registering itself correctly (Oh we don't have a Registry on this side do we...) So how does it work? > Well done to Chris for getting this right, I misunderstood. The "code" > (scary) in fluff is quite simple, a list of function calls with text to > search and text to replace. But getting MakeRTF right is a much better > solution. And Indeed thanks from Her to Martin for the initial posting. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 11:48:06 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pw9Kh-2prknw-02-COu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:48:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pw9Kh-2prknw-02-COu; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:28:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pw9Kh-2prknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:28:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pw9Kd-0004OU-Lh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:28:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D37C1DAB2BF; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299400129; bh=er01DoTsayipLr3tA2DheUVnflLSITX9/qQcS6Au Em0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=NuMTz4 NRbkKxWC6ReUf0NMsCry07S4tltpQ5LD4FwocNGWv0FeskcUSLxTxMiN0NqQrfG/lDJ 49D3oqWrt4EWWZR0iy9jt6fS6JH4QdS5qts57uuc0O5lKH/kYtUuqDApdLA4v/12BCx AVtVd8bRkwo/Qeq2n+L7+SziBDL/GMY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dp791KOHCeSd; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EF70DDA9F99; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299400128; bh=er01DoTsayipLr3tA2DheUVnflLSITX9/qQcS6Au Em0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=sn/rfC TCqZ4hKQ05m0aRQqdA5KpmMGdwvUbwj5guj5GfC9jzZLdjEXvAVHhqnDz85JXimoBL6 EVDFlP6hSh6Ym3SDPKLxcamHlcH7gjbbCkrs25MW9EfOGa2vzM4I1esgeWvlxEI2ksk JGfV/t4lMHdPbzEYHpocUgxpLB6idoc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 03:28:35 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C48FEDAADAF for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ghB3NW8NhdDv for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5B161DA9F99 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([82.152.166.196]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p268SBT3019424 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:28:15 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:03:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51af9e517adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 589 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=y-ri4At4Zg0qn1Z3C3wA:9 a=eoiMDRum9Po3KzVZQmUA:7 a=Aa9hi53W52jUBwtmTUknutMYctYA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 On 06 Mar, dave@triffid.co.uk wrote: [Snippy] > It appears to this thicko, that OvPro when it is Run, is not seeing that > MakeRTF is already active. > So why might that be? > Probably MakeRTF not registering itself correctly (Oh we don't have a > Registry on this side do we...) So how does it work? So, to make things easier for her, As a temp measure I've created a Mini application/obeyscript that when double clicked Loads Ovation Pro then Loads MakeRTF for her. That gets over the problem for the time being. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 12:02:52 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PwCYf-0aD000-06-9Aw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:02:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PwCYf-0aD000-06-9Aw; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:55:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PwCYf-0aD000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:55:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PwCYe-0004C6-D6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:55:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD361DAAC8B; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299412531; bh=KSnlh3fDI0ewsUxGxHRYO/CUYNnogh6/lsooOhoi fIQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=pSiG/OATczD6IBOgz0mp83HJ1ZfH7RlJNGmM33Hz6glsbArnXF Onr2d98xXeK7y8prrxQvnPxqJMss3j72eMwejQtTuEdx+VjqRIOBDdOM20v0VQ3LhkJ Ex/j02YYNphbEQA9Del6+1tCeeS3FVLo2uQ9Npr9gX7Uz6Byf9w4qI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1E3z5xwrGr5c; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3E49DA9689; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:17 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299412530; bh=KSnlh3fDI0ewsUxGxHRYO/CUYNnogh6/lsooOhoi fIQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=fJndwn069Cd4hnGHGHynxmWUw8Dto0lcEjtj0wIVCTIAZk/N+g dNdnVz5DPJ/mNjNxf4qV6ydfu6gMpfw+ByvO0sVzavOBHIMQ+ZeWtA0JETQY8zpFiOX 7xeXZ8kt3zFv3a15tBkyGfK8+lanTzG19wL1vZCpX6qN3/+KNvZm1I= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:55:17 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9AF32DA96A8 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PZCR2qd6XT0h for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F9EFDA9689 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:55:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PwCYO-0005Gk-Wf for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:55:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:54:14 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 590 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HEfcM3SXe8QA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=OESEtjYncHOIdxKdsQ4A:9 a=Gn7i35cG9KeHdO03AVYA:7 a=49Y5FxRznfXYdtbyxa4UE21JTsgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=GiSPQfvkbLBd9E1R:21 a=eLJsi52RnBYfliYx:21 Hi, In message <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >Do you mean I should put a copy of MakeRTF inside the Autorun folder? No. My interpretation of the symptoms was that when you ran Ovation Pro you set up paths to point to a copy of MakeRTF which did not have your modification. So my *worry* (as in it is wrong) is that somewhere inside OP there is another copy of MakeRTF. I think if you do F12, and show ffg* you can see the paths to the transloaders, which will allow you to locate any rogue copy. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Show ffg* will show you the info for the transloader, you'll then have to look at its path which is part of the info, something like (I've not got a copy to hand) show MakeRTF$Dir -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 12:47:52 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PwDDU-1uN000-06-H2d.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:47:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PwDDU-1uN000-06-H2d; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:37:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PwDDU-1uN000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:37:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PwDDL-00011t-SV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:37:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82DC7DAB6D9; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299415053; bh=Wl7BX8t0KKsrUatS7uJxca3ze0gz20X7Eq27/LlV 5jU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=L/IvriPAMnXl/xUcNA2VOFkM2hb1hu4mGVtNKQWAN5swl5CfvS ZgRNftmtuDCb7fIAaGIS3KeDjnlBYP3m/wPzOeb+hL7f3xay+AarAvtfHx53NEr7tcv XUolfPTPVZBTFypddwd0nys27pwbop9CzBC/FCuplYfTgpp1LoEoXw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J1duyYL1k-oR; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CD67DDAB542; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:19 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299415052; bh=Wl7BX8t0KKsrUatS7uJxca3ze0gz20X7Eq27/LlV 5jU=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=KU/VSTXenjthRLUq8KixTpGjSFI93mpUTOORt5N0jSdrk9ZB6s 1eg1e4Sn1oJcqGoPpa2enEj7vZShDhf8hivmktM/18t/dbB9b4K+xVDkMDJjaf6dk4a gAsM6cPDHbiHuIq5bbO7YOQjtquRq3D8wNm/x1p/uaWyQSLSjizR1M= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:37:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9BF1CDAB547 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TGCypr44NVbE for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 019D8DAB546 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.189.81]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p26CanPa023541 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:36:49 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:34:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OvPro and RTF Message-ID: <51afb72964dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <20110304232658.16413917@mdxu> <51af56877cdave@triffid.co.uk> <51af58d1d6chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51af62f08ddave@triffid.co.uk> <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 592 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lNgH3ZbZZ7EA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tNLEszGlm1CbO1YHqQYA:9 a=ujR8Pon4_qRyoI4LS04A:7 a=Wxey5w1YhM7E8NMVULYSS4dsELcA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=sBJL2MBwK-Zc5t8n:21 a=Wo1bIQw3sKQi89II:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51af9451d2dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >Do you mean I should put a copy of MakeRTF inside the Autorun folder? > No. My interpretation of the symptoms was that when you ran Ovation Pro > you set up paths to point to a copy of MakeRTF which did not have your > modification. So my *worry* (as in it is wrong) is that somewhere inside > OP there is another copy of MakeRTF. > I think if you do F12, and > show ffg* > you can see the paths to the transloaders, which will allow you to > locate any rogue copy. I only have one copy on the surface, so to speak, it resides inside the OvPro Filters directory... [Brain in overdrive] Ah! Allow me to explete silently... There's one place I didn't look, it never occurred to me to look there, inside the Applets directory... Hangonamo... Well rude word Me, there is a copy of it inside the Applets directory. We'll pause this writing while I have a sort out. I return with much joy... Well that was an exceedingly good catch Mr P., well done that man. I've removed from filer sight any copies, anywhere of MakeRTF, with the exception of the one inside Applets, which has now been replaced with the modified version. Rebooted the computer, ran the test documents and Wohay! it all works as it should. She's happy so I'm happy. Thanks for the input, much appreciated. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 6 21:33:09 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PwLO5-0Geknw-05-8s2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:33:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PwLO5-0Geknw-05-8s2; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:21:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PwLO5-0Geknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:21:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PwLO2-00060N-Vc for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:21:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32F77DABE19; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:21:09 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299446469; bh=BJalhmK6gDI4YcGq6Iglj2VpsTwTUO0Izv6uiUBp czA=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Jq4xCyOPWe4QK4ioGEr98seZYbvng vecVGRAgiOObH/ze9lGyRe82IZOMdwq6CbbykiyQzJAymXP5CGuUTBjKAxcS7M7smA9 zbFYr6hG7qGRoDf+e3QLFU1DlAXF87/vYb1Rnn4xRKI/M9Ekqbv3ulKoZ3AW1vR6Me7 NxpNkXSg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DP+Mi-lOmFoZ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5802ADABDF9; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299446468; bh=BJalhmK6gDI4YcGq6Iglj2VpsTwTUO0Izv6uiUBp czA=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Pbd+YBPBO9nkqq1fmba3jDqDhNeJ3 M8gPZTO5V7x6w21+HeK+3KZNhQw6ApSduULyFXzlCEqOFCUIEalSu9RdHD0o3zxPgae EcmOm+Xg5/j6WVNKl8C9mbWIt8CkFUcB6S0zsL5QJZym40qsykjn0yfC95YaZgGL/kg Wai5bygE= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:20:55 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3038FDABDFF for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bdQPT7vIPT6h for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C2820DABDF9 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PwLNk-0005T0-bA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:20:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:19:43 +0000 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 6th March MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 593 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=W9ig-kJJ6hkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=pE1jP7VmMkZpee2GPIMA:9 a=-3-ZO0E00k75aP0yYcEA:7 a=VX5h5iiAUWzOKCGB5zdxelfx8s4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=417_xZP74INr6ljQ:21 a=TpfQwLeqeMEkxwnL:21 Hi, I've uploaded a new version of Ovation Pro for RISC OS to: http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip This fixes the problems with rotated/image processed JPEGs on Beagle board [1]. I have also set the code up so that if transformed JPEG plotting is supported, OP uses it. This should be a big win if you are printing large JPEG files to the PostScript level 3 driver, not only will the memory requirement be smaller [2], final PostScript should be more compact and probably higher quality. I would like someone to confirm if this works, I've not tested it. [1] Thanks to the ROOL forum I believe I have resolved this problem. It seems new version of RISC OS (SpriteExtend 1.36 or later) correctly follow the documentation, bit 0 of R0 must be set to get the JPEG size, and OP was not setting this bit. Older versions of RISC OS provide the x and y dimensions of the JPEG regardless of the bit being set or not. I got the code correct in other places, I guess I copied this one piece of code from somewhere where I did not require the dimensions. [2] If you're wondering how the Ross McGuiness thread ended, Ross sent me a JPEG, and I worked out it would need 45MB of free memory to print it rotated, that's a lot of memory. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1786 invoked by uid 89); 6 Mar 2011 23:07:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (farmstay@203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with ESMTPA; 6 Mar 2011 23:07:07 -0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 6th March To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:56:54 +0800 Message-ID: <5c23f0af51.farmstay@farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 594 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OCCQMlvkeu4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=U98zaT_TAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tct0zSMsRD7YiDhOzs0A:9 a=KSY19oWLcWe9k0XvEWYA:7 a=04ruJGQ4hsSRAIm9G85JS6RIWsYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=-EmCJpj_KzYNslSN:21 a=S6ZVd-uKT5NU7YvJ:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > I've uploaded a new version of Ovation Pro for RISC OS to: > http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip > This fixes the problems with rotated/image processed JPEGs on Beagle > board [1]. > I have also set the code up so that if transformed JPEG plotting is > supported, OP uses it. This should be a big win if you are printing > large JPEG files to the PostScript level 3 driver, not only will the > memory requirement be smaller [2], final PostScript should be more > compact and probably higher quality. > I would like someone to confirm if this works, I've not tested it. I'll get to this later today if I can and let you know how it goes. > [1] Thanks to the ROOL forum I believe I have resolved this problem. It > seems new version of RISC OS (SpriteExtend 1.36 or later) correctly > follow the documentation, bit 0 of R0 must be set to get the JPEG size, > and OP was not setting this bit. Older versions of RISC OS provide the x > and y dimensions of the JPEG regardless of the bit being set or not. I > got the code correct in other places, I guess I copied this one piece of > code from somewhere where I did not require the dimensions. > [2] If you're wondering how the Ross McGuiness thread ended, Ross sent > me a JPEG, and I worked out it would need 45MB of free memory to print > it rotated, that's a lot of memory. Thanks to David I've now increased my OPro print memory slot to 50Mb and so far images have been handled OK. Once again thanks. Ross -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay 1800 South Coast Hwy DENMARK WA 6333 Tel:+61 8 9848 1781 Fax:+61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 7 12:01:39 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PwYPw-33lVbs-07-CtD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:01:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PwYPw-33lVbs-07-CtD; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:16:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PwYPw-33lVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:16:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PwYPo-0003K1-OJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:16:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5F13ADAB399; 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Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46A20DAB115 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from bach (178-26-93-129-dynip.superkabel.de [178.26.93.129]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LjfXI-1QXo2W0QwK-00bmGY; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:15:32 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvPro and RTF To: davidpilling@freelists.org Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:56:32 +0100 Message-ID: <8f0532b051.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <51935bd024dave@triffid.co.uk> <1d133351f469772acee1f59db19a24c0.squirrel@webmail.plus.net> <519377660fdave@triffid.co.uk> <51aed27501dave@triffid.co.uk> <7427e9ae51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> <51af253ef3riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <98f54caf51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <98f54caf51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Both RISC OS and Windows use those >> undefined characters for adding glyphs that are not in the Latin1 charset, >> but not surprisingly they each use them in their own non-standard ways. >> The characters on RISC OS that are affected include smart quotes and the >> various dashes. >> The solution to your problem is to download the .doc file, load it into >> Easi/TechWriter and export plain text from that. > I already do that, using Writer - is there better text export from the > full Easiwriter, or an option to convert smart quotes etc to plain > ones? The Writer route doesn't work. That definitely works in EasiWriter, both with .doc import and export and with .rtf import and export. 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charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 596 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OCCQMlvkeu4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Jr0H0-2qauvotfT8qloA:9 a=N6uY4D03pD_H65cKKbsA:7 a=-h4-LZSYzP3HIr7sr9ykejHMj_sA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zw6h1A24o64A:10 a=nV79rfynJAJPyxNB:21 a=5xRcl4i3LUpx3Ryq:21 On 8 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <1354a2b051.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey > writes >>I have an OvPro file (7MB) with 300+ thumbnail size referenced >>JPEGs (340x450'sh) in and have tried creating a PDF (v1.3) from it >>using OvPro (6 Mar 2011), PS3 1.19 and PrintPDF 0.80 on an Iyonix with >>RISC OS 5.16 and the resulting file is exactly the same size as on the >>previous version of OvPro - 62MB. The referenced photos total around >>15MB. >> >>Should it have been smaller as you suggested? > Only if the JPEGs are rotated or skewed. Thanks - The JPEGs are not, so that explains it. -- Email - bernard@bapfish.org.uk Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From ecartis@freelists.org Wed Mar 9 16:56:37 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PxMSQ-2pZ000-05-Dzp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:56:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PxMSQ-2pZ000-05-Dzp; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:41:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PxMSQ-2pZ000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:41:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PxMSK-0000eJ-Gs for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:41:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C4EE4DAC185 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299688905; bh=nJTYizZ/TGRjIWstUWROY+bd+kZo2G3x9wTcKn22 G3A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject; b=EUxnqtnf3UBysaL jUDDcaknpj6/WO2057BtTSRpC+OZL8bXFLbtgyrxaq6KE2fLCCU9QHNLc+wLhWGj1+1 75uBPRDj9rERK3U3HExf4JPIPm24Yh3/qVp7UH/j5WetfbaH+tidXD793r/2YI3AOLq 3BxBvahRr0Mf/PcZFjXHJg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULKo0x0YSLsE for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B731DAC16B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299688905; bh=nJTYizZ/TGRjIWstUWROY+bd+kZo2G3x9wTcKn22 G3A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject; b=EUxnqtnf3UBysaL jUDDcaknpj6/WO2057BtTSRpC+OZL8bXFLbtgyrxaq6KE2fLCCU9QHNLc+wLhWGj1+1 75uBPRDj9rERK3U3HExf4JPIPm24Yh3/qVp7UH/j5WetfbaH+tidXD793r/2YI3AOLq 3BxBvahRr0Mf/PcZFjXHJg= X-Original-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D5B1DAC185 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299688905; bh=nJTYizZ/TGRjIWstUWROY+bd+kZo2G3x9wTcKn22 G3A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject; b=EUxnqtnf3UBysaL jUDDcaknpj6/WO2057BtTSRpC+OZL8bXFLbtgyrxaq6KE2fLCCU9QHNLc+wLhWGj1+1 75uBPRDj9rERK3U3HExf4JPIPm24Yh3/qVp7UH/j5WetfbaH+tidXD793r/2YI3AOLq 3BxBvahRr0Mf/PcZFjXHJg= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NkXct3UG9tGI for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24E6CDAC16B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299688905; bh=nJTYizZ/TGRjIWstUWROY+bd+kZo2G3x9wTcKn22 G3A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject; b=EUxnqtnf3UBysaL jUDDcaknpj6/WO2057BtTSRpC+OZL8bXFLbtgyrxaq6KE2fLCCU9QHNLc+wLhWGj1+1 75uBPRDj9rERK3U3HExf4JPIPm24Yh3/qVp7UH/j5WetfbaH+tidXD793r/2YI3AOLq 3BxBvahRr0Mf/PcZFjXHJg= Received: from freelists.org by freelists.org (ECARTIS/1.0.0); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager Reply-To: cooperative@co-operative.co.uk To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Message-ID: X-ecartis-antiloop: freelists.org Precedence: list Subject: davidpilling: cooperative@co-operative.co.uk post needs approval X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MLlr1foV6rgA:10 a=EbKJ-zwr8X8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=M8Rd8IaqAAAA:8 a=FIA4VO2zAAAA:8 a=WQi-xKhkAAAA:8 a=pR-OME-IAAAA:8 a=57cS_BHZAAAA:8 a=BqO7_03wWVeCHVDDlk8A:9 a=995D5amokP_Ck0SmdF0A:7 a=be0c8i48icKNnW8t4MvI7keltM0A:4 a=vaF4yFaCieYA:10 a=4ZhXhIuV_c0A:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=GqJrjtYO-cYA:10 a=esj9zQG9K_RcIrbQ:21 a=MaavI1qWp_xpsuow:21 This message was received for a list you are a moderator on, and was marked for moderation due to the following reason: Non-member submission to closed-post list. 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// eompost 4D77ADC9:7C8E.1:qnivqcvyyvat From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Mar 9 16:56:37 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PxMeW-1u0000-03-Dnj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:56:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PxMeW-1u0000-03-Dnj; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:54:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PxMeW-1u0000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:54:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PxMeS-000495-QR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:54:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4CE2DAA91A; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299689658; bh=LeWm3/EPO5FO8J73zVEPtn+cokve7EJGVsUAhJtf T/w=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=XaRoVRJh+ERIsNF1qYkKfgQp0DD+ddUux1HaUWYPbAGpgzThKa BAObduyuTyf6BErFVrPW170VZsIBcYnzf4CGATMsEcaaQsj081GQ+q1z0v2IKsd6JZz v+sDAltSnMJvgPXBrS32+qCbvBBGn4O3qO1nXhmNxD+xnsYBHIYc5Y= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CxLeiKuNk0h1; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0535BDAA7E4; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:04 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299689657; bh=LeWm3/EPO5FO8J73zVEPtn+cokve7EJGVsUAhJtf T/w=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Jw/0IXlbzEJjvYxy/XJ6zMkKzTET1CU7lTQYa1FE0/XYe0K8ro FykjVAcUL68wdUNG9fMhoD8j8eWpj8yFyhI601OK/OKKnnFd6WupiqScywhPwmV1LXE PRhgtgzZpfbdOwhGWxN7idg/1Dpikq9mfJzhVm98adoC5OgH2kGAeY= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:54:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0126DAA816 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s+95gLyIaofD for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5105CDAA7E4 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PxMeB-0007Ck-X4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:54:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:52:46 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 6th March References: <1354a2b051.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> <5ef521b151.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5ef521b151.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 597 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OCCQMlvkeu4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Lqu5emfQ8Z83co1JUqoA:9 a=jrnR8uhrw7EQQpQYOWEA:7 a=XwCsuzKRix_1i5oXy53X4S0gM10A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ewo7AthF418SKzGu:21 a=CNSZLT9ah9L51PjO:21 Hi, In message <5ef521b151.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard Veasey writes >On 8 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: >> Only if the JPEGs are rotated or skewed. >Thanks - The JPEGs are not, so that explains it. Your comment made me think this feature is no big deal. But one then encounters someone who has lots of JPEGs turned through 90 degrees. Common situation one persons big problem, another person never notices. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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This should be a big win if you are printing >large JPEG files to the PostScript level 3 driver, not only will the >memory requirement be smaller [2], final PostScript should be more >compact and probably higher quality. > >I would like someone to confirm if this works, I've not tested it. No it does not work - more later... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Mar 11 21:29:09 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Py9qo-2fk000-06-FkX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:29:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Py9qo-2fk000-06-FkX; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:26:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Py9qo-2fk000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:26:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Py9ql-0005oK-4r for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:26:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F220DAD9EC; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299878777; bh=hYP2dyJ7DaNC3ntLT/h0ATDJNOYFOZAVKi9YhL4H HoU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=wTx2/Tz9VzT0OM12LMR3ETsTTA72Y 3e6EEDhQNGU0wed9t628WWY62nrGUL0q8ezprXXGwS47g6kaB4Yh+7OvxTs1k1OyduB Opmmz9k3HwupedhuwZsynCb8B39/cUfqYVNN4xXgN6LWg0Fle1PXYnbWrSEe8i3uwlq RVGoxibU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZNBxWFpSfvI3; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E0E48DAD964; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:03 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299878776; bh=hYP2dyJ7DaNC3ntLT/h0ATDJNOYFOZAVKi9YhL4H HoU=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ERKg1zjyp4T5fYkbalFgUw0vfsH+Y ICchqykh2SqfXW81wv7Yc8UK59cG7J39PIdgP2naOo4JD2USl34x6aVsuPRAL7ynY/b UV18M7HZHi8iVKhKVUd4Vg7s4dT6ljG4nmUjPuA1TVWu0y6fcipYi1vezaTiHrXHy8k BvGlbO9U= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8B2DDAD993 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s8V6nNA9mqGS for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 35611DAD968 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Py9qU-0001ts-jX; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:26:02 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:24:25 +0000 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 599 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GWZlMrvvts0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zMnScrXC0FRmzVp0WR8A:9 a=JSelX_BttQtvYYNFXz0A:7 a=K9oW2M7a2NaDMcESNXLr_w7V7vcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NHrYTLh6VOclDHYt:21 a=SUZuzgH80okwJ-Dl:21 Hi, I've uploaded a new version of Ovation Pro for RISC OS to: http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip The thing with rendering rotated JPEGs on PostScript has gone from leading edge to skeleton in the cupboard. Anyway I've had another go, it works this time. Someone came along and asked for text file import that works with CRLF DOS style files, so I've copied that over from the Windows version. Thanks to Martin Wuerthner and John Tytgat for their help. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 12:05:35 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyKXf-0CS000-07-DaC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:05:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyKXf-0CS000-07-DaC; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:51:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyKXf-0CS000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:51:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyKXd-0001Fy-N2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:51:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52B30DADCC0; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299919875; bh=LXe4ZGpkq9tkREiiArJhjYE1l/qLJHxoINf21ntC D04=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=mfzouuutyDBVrzwJRNftE8Z+v9b5BzIPTIjfr5oPoWIi0uSWRZ R9jc1pfP69mUK2UxvC1LihCr/eeB2EhmHvCAsjBiSOq5f1NQcoozoAzRRBdX6sCpAeQ h69kUmBxdqKlpudUGZxBythjLDqexXuln5QZ4YOa1jhWpf0KT3rXm0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cPqi4y71igtl; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E457DADCBE; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:01 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299919874; bh=LXe4ZGpkq9tkREiiArJhjYE1l/qLJHxoINf21ntC D04=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=pxp27oj/5qxavoZj7t4r+1czzZA7ooHNwnCmex0QYKQR6HrQ1a 9De6X9iTM1ZZl3eg+lT7A48DRhYTK7KSpj9DbmOjuQjo7Bv6puhP+iH8dUSqKrnxIdZ LScimZkgh4D3tsFdWpGlSvjVnD4u6BBgEeSucCQdVSt/FbkokCtmjA= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BED4DADB7B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MBiGJ0Sr6MgP for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93EBDDADCC7 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-202-49.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.202.49]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2C8oYem003376 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:50:35 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March To: David Pilling From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:50:42 GMT Message-ID: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 600 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=z66hMiUCsM_at0hAyEUA:9 a=PlHJPZC_c9EXV0wtsTcA:7 a=isS42je_Z0wRh5oWrR2S9KL7xzMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=z4bPxrCfbpf79NvC:21 a=xvisfwAm8UUks8nv:21 On 11 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > I've uploaded a new version of Ovation Pro for RISC OS to: > http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip > The thing with rendering rotated JPEGs on PostScript has gone from > leading edge to skeleton in the cupboard. Anyway I've had another go, it > works this time. > Someone came along and asked for text file import that works with CRLF > DOS style files, so I've copied that over from the Windows version. > Thanks to Martin Wuerthner and John Tytgat for their help. Just downloaded and installed this version (many thanks, David). Being inquisitive (well, I wanted to make sure that my newly-installed backup program was doing the business, which it was), I'm intrigued to know why the new !RunImage file is dated 11 March 2013 :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ __ __ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 12:05:36 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyLUa-1bl000-06-CdH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:05:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyLUa-1bl000-06-CdH; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:52:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyLUa-1bl000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:52:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyLUX-0006gn-8G for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:52:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D176CDADC54; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:52:06 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299923526; bh=wJ5YiyfaUhh7FRHwGnirBWqFTSS56ya4N1zAazeQ y8s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=hgR18CmvZMfkw1dR/3+JFyFx+4pyiKSxZJodKz2j1fiUhjOosn h0Y+JiI8kfR4MvWJrnse93QapXTGnefNTW2yllReQ+zb+voSKpPOIJgJljIOE7N78hK gWQnojv4ZRnvgzXIOCCBH1OmlXP2OgXO4ek0u/xrPCby//W6wjCtr4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FxYyWfateKc1; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B8A6DADBB7; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:51:53 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299923525; bh=wJ5YiyfaUhh7FRHwGnirBWqFTSS56ya4N1zAazeQ y8s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=dEuMDrDhRAtq718dpt0RA0j4Jcsm98vVyC5uPuKo39JrUwYk5I ktHa0uZTilz4PuHfmM2l1D0NK5zC4hR2XGD918PVfZXQbLVW7b3fghlJFcianBRoMXk +FmJhriZptmt43WWmoXRCmrARdVoaLDy2rNO1e++mqw34HapjzIsMw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:51:53 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F285ADADC25 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:51:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VmO1E1xy7iKy for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B30EDADBB7 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from leemingj.demon.co.uk ([80.177.223.198] helo=Iyonix) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyLUF-0002mQ-mt for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:51:51 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:56:27 GMT From: John Leeming To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <90b3bfb251.john@leemingj.demon.co.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/1.00c (MsgServe/1.00a) (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 601 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@leemingj.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VOuWpb7aWuykbgr094UA:9 a=Y0md9mSc7w7gWKWWcU4A:7 a=H2bv2EfqAO-exiO1hUJI7QPxdRoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 Dr Peter Young wrote: > I'm intrigued to > know why the new !RunImage file is dated 11 March 2013 :-) Because, like all RISCOS applications, it's ahead of its time. John L. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 12:35:26 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyNsE-03Qknw-01-AFd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:35:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyNsE-03Qknw-01-AFd; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:24:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyNsE-03Qknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:24:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyNsB-0004x0-60 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:24:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DE21DAD6D9; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:39 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299932679; bh=+HYSgdm+/DhHntzn32HDKO1ytkz+app5mU9c4H1D 7Ho=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=o21gyxrMoJFuzNYJRKAUjNL6XV2zhFGfWpK03UNxdLMe93Rgc3 9T259GVlF1OvEFcQ5LvbSOXa4VCNJmJCbrsf3F5sk4LN1YgbDD0/S/tAfXgLXT1bBQY eUtBzh+3XU2MVkEylcX/1PchuImTZS3v22a8AUpjD/JCfajRVbhMYw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SVuHtesV4WTa; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84245DAB874; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299932678; bh=+HYSgdm+/DhHntzn32HDKO1ytkz+app5mU9c4H1D 7Ho=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=RKQKbwtM/V3LFzhsdwVEr86QgE/gRx1oX3RfyORywdoPN61Wm7 xMwt2CZ1zH7B71eDkT41FRYKOXOntdmsNPYUK5AAashd0KXkoyk9tD1J8lK25QC8Hpa Kgsa0sg1224fxdnul/ahvvBZ72aqQIYGiUNapKMnwSZ0zhiN83WLFM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4CF5FDAD648 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XhSkyYy19I7I for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5C3BDAB874 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyNrr-0001Ef-fu for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:24:24 +0000 Message-ID: <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:23:10 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 602 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yzWlVvIhUmKWBDAKalQA:9 a=4mf4Zuy-SJG2tu7nTTcA:7 a=pZ8wdLAgf81xqjY_5ip3dWydI_oA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=oQsbVSRXm2d6nBHL:21 a=gP92BwZ3Uc3-rJPQ:21 Hi, In message <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young writes >Just downloaded and installed this version (many thanks, David). Being >inquisitive (well, I wanted to make sure that my newly-installed >backup program was doing the business, which it was), I'm intrigued to >know why the new !RunImage file is dated 11 March 2013 :-) Because I don't use the Iyonix much, the hard disc root directory gets cluttered with stuff. So I had a tidy up last week, and I moved the clockfix patch. I've put it back and 2011 has been restored. Sorry for the problems this may cause. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 12:51:01 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyO7q-3ZI000-02-A01.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:51:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyO7q-3ZI000-02-A01; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:40:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyO7q-3ZI000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:40:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyO7n-0005xX-Hk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:40:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74EECDAD996; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299933649; bh=RbRAJ5sqdoVKggBoIheXwBi3bFcqGZrOBJySlNG1 usQ=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=wzHu0L AXu2kseKtquskXPfxX6ZrRnGoBYjUzLjtIb/j3vw+MKz7D9AIsSG55xhrf05dbePhes jG/oeR9jTK1K9iej+qa18oYLAIM3P+VpyHtXylniSxtl1MQglE/6b7uf+C1vX+txFgI CaglE4HZAjjjodV1+R9B9Ll1groqF+4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lo3mZ41khzo4; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC450DAD73E; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299933648; bh=RbRAJ5sqdoVKggBoIheXwBi3bFcqGZrOBJySlNG1 usQ=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=eFLaQ2 RgRYZ/hghzetqfJ7Omz3gk3OXVc2VKk6dcuWKd8O+0YHB5cBXAOP1bHnS9he9A3hZ7Y wlDYJt8oLlC802WMStEWcy/jSs0gH5UFKBjSMsmWmWZeTQbhf7JWB9p/FMTDT9sc5ti OcemBp+Zo0DvYAdQIpABr7hQu2N5fac= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:35 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8799FDAD996 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ANcrcxgwibpV for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02133DAD73E for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:40:34 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkGADP4ek3Unw4S/2dsb2JhbACZM40Od8B9hWIE Received: from outmx06.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 12:40:34 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PyO7V-0007b0-G9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:40:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:40:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 603 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=QqEKeRMmffSiasmWBhQA:9 a=aGyVjNhjSsUKcEl6pJkA:7 a=VHhxTD1LUwCJYEhckJGkXFUOX4YA:4 a=1lh-PXrM8tCAh0D0:21 a=_RE2bxDlOUUthwwN:21 In article <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Because I don't use the Iyonix much, the hard disc root directory > gets cluttered with stuff. So I had a tidy up last week, and I > moved the clockfix patch. I've put it back and 2011 has been > restored. You should have upgraded to RISC OS 5.16!! -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 13:35:28 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyOpP-3yiknw-06-9IS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:35:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyOpP-3yiknw-06-9IS; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyOpP-3yiknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyOpO-0006Ow-5v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3E843DAD9F6; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:48 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299936348; bh=d9WJ57//62fttdxB69AsxamoRmVViXLnb/P52mvn 5TM=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=nZmFXyWZQ6E5wPvIqXxY4mVtXOmb5zjMEOhh93cHQkxb6yLodl /D2TlsFSIDLktGSRQniHZDK2Sr3OxFEmVBjCbm6iW7MblYdhUGStIddv5QXgWizbjDB elbSgpc4duDtOyRE4ZAjHddh9/Q5oL47gHmYLvX1F9dbj2YannXLqM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N++g7LvTfayY; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 420B8DAD9EC; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:34 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299936347; bh=d9WJ57//62fttdxB69AsxamoRmVViXLnb/P52mvn 5TM=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=vpB+QzQqEtvaiYAqIidFGCQgAaZ+x5NEaLIp3JLuZTtr6tNmKm Tnvi7B6ZkZB1hrTdly2ym5bCSn9VCV6RooKEFqvx04W+9BvTxjPsC03lkjEg3kZMA6T adDcr0gnwSHj16IPYISx01Uno67VgaY5f/Rr3whFA4roMaETseOl5E= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13D20DAD9EE for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gDn6dzpoFapu for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4315DDAD9EC for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-202-49.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.202.49]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CDP75s006626 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:08 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:25:21 GMT Message-ID: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xa5HJCG3vKVTiNYUy9MA:9 a=2wOvUeJmSDh3lhwfBRgA:7 a=Jd87NMIuLauBJCbA_kHm6a2qSg8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=gFnelix2H9hh1b8Q:21 a=BTjjMgNOFQOkDAN-:21 On 12 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > writes >>Just downloaded and installed this version (many thanks, David). Being >>inquisitive (well, I wanted to make sure that my newly-installed >>backup program was doing the business, which it was), I'm intrigued to >>know why the new !RunImage file is dated 11 March 2013 :-) > Because I don't use the Iyonix much, the hard disc root directory gets > cluttered with stuff. So I had a tidy up last week, and I moved the > clockfix patch. I've put it back and 2011 has been restored. > Sorry for the problems this may cause. No problem, I was just curious. I've now re-stamped the file (and the copy in the backup) using Ian Hamilton's !StampIt, so that future backups run correctly. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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The thing is, if the Iyonix goes wrong, I lose all my RISC OS stuff. I think it is on RISC OS 5.06. I got a later version a while back, but I can't bring myself to risk it. It's not had the hardware fix and the power supply is dodgy, I have to coax it into life every time I turn it on. Am I worrying you. You can also use "Stamp" from the usual RISC OS menu to update the time stamp on the !RunImage. I'll update the archive soon. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:18:46 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkGAKMPe01UXeb6/2dsb2JhbACZM40Od8AwhWIE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 14:18:45 +0000 Received: from bapfish.plus.com ([84.92.151.71] helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PyPeX-0005A8-7v for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:18:45 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Bernard X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:18:35 GMT Message-ID: <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 606 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=dGMYuuNipMVkE2hY2ZIA:9 a=ckglPwsJHCNozWjCnnkA:7 a=H7fPJmKwRAly9d3VZI26DhDRBpsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=u9zRnfTjBeYZhPhW:21 a=3ZigF_o9j-SlKyQb:21 In message David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes >>You should have upgraded to RISC OS 5.16!! > The thing is, if the Iyonix goes wrong, I lose all my RISC OS stuff. I > think it is on RISC OS 5.06. I got a later version a while back, but I > can't bring myself to risk it. > It's not had the hardware fix and the power supply is dodgy, I have to > coax it into life every time I turn it on. > Am I worrying you. > You can also use "Stamp" from the usual RISC OS menu to update the time > stamp on the !RunImage. I'll update the archive soon. There's also a 'Copy' feature at the top of the same menu - you could use this to backup your precious RISC OS stuff on to an external drive! Couldn't resist that - sorry. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 14:50:31 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyQ1x-1llGPo-05-GcQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyQ1x-1llGPo-05-GcQ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:42:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyQ1x-1llGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:42:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyQ1w-0006JZ-8j for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:42:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D15BDADBED; 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA176DADBAB for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:42:35 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkGAEMVe01UXeb6/2dsb2JhbACZM40Od8AkhWIE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 14:42:35 +0000 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PyQ1a-0001pS-EO for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:42:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:41:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PiSLNcJCCv3eiOt2fHsA:9 a=a2vXY8ihTdiMzsx55aUA:7 a=NyTS2YxNWoPrYo__RtVfDngsZyYA:4 a=woiXYCYpgGkYOkXj:21 a=vxuejkMQToBzofo6:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > In message <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes > >You should have upgraded to RISC OS 5.16!! > The thing is, if the Iyonix goes wrong, I lose all my RISC OS > stuff. I think it is on RISC OS 5.06. I got a later version a > while back, but I can't bring myself to risk it. > It's not had the hardware fix and the power supply is dodgy, I have > to coax it into life every time I turn it on. > Am I worrying you. I trust you are using !SyncDiscs to do regular backups 8o) -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 14:50:32 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyQ9F-2Z5knw-02-GV8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyQ9F-2Z5knw-02-GV8; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyQ9F-2Z5knw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:29 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyQ9D-00022D-2L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6B77DADC01; 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58299DADC01 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyQ8w-0002yw-gz for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:50:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:48:44 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 608 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=vWg5tNdTjMfLOJiLjyQA:9 a=6tX5Un_OhH4vYdufgl8A:7 a=Xgv-wlJ0NC27qxVgCvgSXHljCu8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=uWQ7yO5mRtN0d6H8:21 a=47OJUQAQPZ2oeKV7:21 Hi, In message <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard writes >There's also a 'Copy' feature at the top of the same menu - you could >use this to backup your precious RISC OS stuff on to an external >drive! Couldn't resist that - sorry. That's not a bad idea. Get another drive. But then what would I put it in (another Iyonix?). I'd really like to back up to the network but it has never been reliable enough. CD writing no longer works. What I have to do is backup to an archive and then ftp that. It's a bit tedious so I don't bother. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpbrm-ews27.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.158]) by cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:08 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.19]) by cpbrm-ews27.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:08 +0100 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([213.10.58.27]) by CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:02:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2dbaee6Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2011 15:02:08.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[75202B20:01CBE0C6] X-RcptDomain: freelists.org X-archive-position: 609 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=nlaXlx_s6ae5Xsa_QjMA:9 a=sBbMUYE6rVp9NZhVi-cA:7 a=DCUK9ZpQAj-4fSYsV9pU2bkXUIYA:4 a=o8G-rp5qBat4Yunl:21 a=W51lHMFTXDtNyE3j:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > I'd really like to back up to the network but it has never been > reliable enough I use !SafeStore to do an automated and daily backup to a 1Tb LaCie Network Space NAS. From time to time, I run software directly from this backup using VirtualAcorn on my Windows7 laptop somewhere else in the local network - and I never faced any problem. So, I'm inclined to say that the LaCie Network Space is absolutely reliable, also for RISC OS. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 15:05:35 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyQL2-2vpknw-02-GJL.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:05:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyQL2-2vpknw-02-GJL; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:02:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyQL2-2vpknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:02:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyQKt-0000ZG-Bx for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:02:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61567DAA7E1; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299942148; bh=RSTOE5gSGwX6Z8/V75HoK8yyjCKhA8QLRhHDUgVP OL0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=VxOwjbHP55PNg5rD/l/irsJY+AdMMEpaMj0JD4zQs1nuvX4EZi dDpzA4PJ+NzSV4rV1gWIbToCL++y3ju4m2egdIXQSHUu7+1im4hC7Ow3c7KxyHnUPsI YwAmZP5mrpw5S8ZxHOkuA9jkG6z7VjeQYcSbTjoe62/n3CM/YkOtoI= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P6FmVejpacVC; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2573DAAA9D; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299942146; bh=RSTOE5gSGwX6Z8/V75HoK8yyjCKhA8QLRhHDUgVP OL0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=p4ZYct9XRXAei6VxMU9T4hQGMSXxEwBjxfgc/nI2SOd+7fy3PX Ps+Kf2qmCgS9hUqs726LDPxNFeO8OM9mzzo3jeEr5y7hxvQH8eOIPKduGQ/HSVL1/Ih /t4nGZSpqJTwvMvETFC05cFoHL8o2yQ/SOXD9JYEZwALZOkdWCEGRc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8C1BDDAA7E1 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UuVhZmOEryav for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 508E9DADBF4 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyQKW-0005Q3-cd for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:02:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:00:14 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4uWCXEG_YE4nD19Q4ggA:9 a=2ivyFg38uG7Q81djwgkA:7 a=7K0lwF1ydsIsYpi5e11dZNmkUO4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pWhV7sjbGZvnh--f:21 a=oMIqmtJDgzzaEzBJ:21 In message <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >I trust you are using !SyncDiscs to do regular backups 8o) Well the Syquest SyJet (about 1.5GB so viable) went with the SCSI card (never had one of those work on the Iyonix). And as I said the network has never been reliable enough. Might be a good idea to use a RISC PC as an external drive and sync to that, presuming that Acorn to Acorn networking is more reliable as it has always seemed to be. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:07:21 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,307,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="494041894" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 15:07:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (unknown [192.168.0.101]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB40025A002 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:07:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:07:18 +0000 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.66.4.3340 (Qt/4.6.2) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 611 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Pcw6SIVUAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=bl8pzcADKPXVq35HFJ4A:9 a=kCDeIENnSX7vEBRuYHQA:7 a=6I8-rbI2mB4-SIlFZzAUJDujVugA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=W18HPBB6pKKt1yTc:21 a=H9efYaBt6Bqi7rRl:21 On 12 Mar, David Pilling wrote in message : > In message <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard > writes > > > There's also a 'Copy' feature at the top of the same menu - you could > > use this to backup your precious RISC OS stuff on to an external drive! > > Couldn't resist that - sorry. > > That's not a bad idea. Get another drive. But then what would I put it in > (another Iyonix?). If it were ADFS formatted, then yes (or a RiscPC, and hope). Linux can read ADFS discs, too, IIRC. A FAT-formatted USB disc via Fat32FS would be a better option, I think. > I'd really like to back up to the network but it has never been reliable > enough. Transfers to an NFS server work fine here (using Sunfish). > CD writing no longer works. If that's the PSU, then you're also risking serious hard disc corruption every time you turn the machine on. If you actually want to keep the data that's on the Iyonix, then you *really* need to sort the backup and other issues out (and keep a copy of DiscKnight handy, although that isn't a complete solution). BTDTGTTS (although by then I had pretty regular, reliable backups so the data loss wasn't too bad). > What I have to do is backup to an archive and then ftp that. It's a bit > tedious so I don't bother. I can assure you from experience that a PSU-related disc-interface freeze is even more tedious. I'd imagine that this would be especially so if you're not sure where you're going to restore your data from afterwards. As I say, I've got an Iyonix and have also owned this particular T-Shirt. These days, email and source code is stored on a Linux box. Stuff like O-Pro documents tend to get backed up there too. I don't really trust the Iyonix's disc interface for anything important now, and that's even with a new PSU installed (as it's still a bit flaky). -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show Saturday 16 April 2011 http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 15:35:32 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyQgv-2bUVbs-06-FxS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:35:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyQgv-2bUVbs-06-FxS; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyQgv-2bUVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyQgs-0002ce-Ms for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A816DADC63; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299943512; bh=43jojgtVhZcSzgMYkmdwM4dQ82c2Mo1MH7LK1skp 9l8=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ewymBn kYi7ypY9D+qK5yHYepYQYVyFuW/fJ7DGff+TfzQn47BHWN01BhzuNVdF7JQWlkIHPMV sKoPn5wDykFQWbpNDx7MBPy4wLCKcF8WWowjO5MLPKb5M8xhczXkrbG4CSySw6Mq4uu s4+J0/hnKVglifEQ3vf3crujq3XBEZ0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uCE-A2d56RLr; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 052AADADC3E; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:24:58 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299943511; bh=43jojgtVhZcSzgMYkmdwM4dQ82c2Mo1MH7LK1skp 9l8=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=xY8Lvv fwqc7nRj0L02bpOepxVeutc/cOllAdOcMVOMtd2XhpQ5u/TskM2PUnsw+A1VXPDD007 k+PjvFGZ0bPga006W5HMDHAkv/XRI5en/aGZbtTIrbN3k2IMEPS0Qfe+wq3Mpn2BCvn sNvlBdoUtL55418envOezfqPZ7hS62U= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:24:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D128DDADC58 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:24:58 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5XJaQKNS3JLR for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 477C8DADC3E for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from AMD2. ([91.85.180.252]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CFOVwE008081 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:24:32 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 612 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cg0nyUFqQfT5K-kt-OMA:9 a=_I_VMLh9sDSrm3mL3IsA:7 a=-8ZXG06DIVPLAOlvcbb-haJXB7sA:4 a=rzMg0Qz0ou_gmkNx:21 a=WhAl66-yWEPuoGxZ:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes > >I trust you are using !SyncDiscs to do regular backups 8o) > Well the Syquest SyJet (about 1.5GB so viable) went with the SCSI > card (never had one of those work on the Iyonix). And as I said > the network has never been reliable enough. > Might be a good idea to use a RISC PC as an external drive and sync > to that, presuming that Acorn to Acorn networking is more reliable > as it has always seemed to be. I back up SA-VRPC on a WindowsXP machine to an identical SA-VRPC on a W7 laptop and that's fairly painless: ShareFS is reasonably fast. But to back up to an old Risc PC (in my case, a Kinetic) is painfully slow - the network's mis-matched and the server keeps getting lost. About 6 months ago I saved all the XP's RISC OS files and all the crucial programs onto CDs [so that they could be available also to the Kinetic, if needed]. It was somewhat arduous in that each component had to be zipped to preserve the R-O filetypes. But it's a good feeling to have an archive. I'm sure there must be a better way, especially since I have an external USB large HD - but I need a simple and reliable way! Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 16:20:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyRXo-1WQ000-05-F6Z.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:20:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyRXo-1WQ000-05-F6Z; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:19:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyRXo-1WQ000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:19:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyRXl-0005P6-UU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:19:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74148DADC3B; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299946792; bh=O2RxGf3bt5ohn4e6YuCsqBW7aj67wrTKsx/coT4U GNg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=gW7oXw IWJwnTzCjjePHtxYvf0kxci1raOKdLHTWqtCQQ2JSnVH6xjgcMg+Ip9XocwLrgIC5+F t6eySoWPzk8ICE8p7GUO38YcT2vH/nk9A+nHVvTzXCEgTyKmQISaXHZlbL4JunGP4n1 T3tTT+q7os7aJQrhq91UZyzctyCVAEA= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2HhcH9BWJEbA; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 950F8DADC33; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:38 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299946791; bh=O2RxGf3bt5ohn4e6YuCsqBW7aj67wrTKsx/coT4U GNg=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=pVgqqW BP5hVQrX6ocUF80xrEO/DpORrzLwz9mUclS+3Sq1RD+wb3JkthVJcyVZNLYuCZrmxOo nAcGziKTlgdCxkJQ/S6yw6uiSAJBsjQBCpczx7J/zfobKk01fj59e4O7HdoN1QP5wxH eFmcZVUajCJv4+vQBOc/i6Qc4T6Jtq8= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:38 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6AB39DAB093 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GaQZchM-RlXk for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD158DADC3B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.173.35]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CGJC8g008742 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:19:13 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:18:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=EEJMQQxNws25t97AMUQA:9 a=WStKq8AnjJJTxchVRWwA:7 a=b4FJvDnAycA6ZWfpda-6A0dGzuEA:4 a=Af--gm86zXbd1-ze:21 a=DPEqqclWicnUyfPX:21 In article <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding wrote: [Snip] > I back up SA-VRPC on a WindowsXP machine to an identical SA-VRPC on a > W7 laptop and that's fairly painless: ShareFS is reasonably fast. But > to back up to an old Risc PC (in my case, a Kinetic) is painfully slow > - the network's mis-matched and the server keeps getting lost. > About 6 months ago I saved all the XP's RISC OS files and all the > crucial programs onto CDs [so that they could be available also to the > Kinetic, if needed]. It was somewhat arduous in that each component > had to be zipped to preserve the R-O filetypes. But it's a good > feeling to have an archive. > I'm sure there must be a better way, especially since I have an > external USB large HD - but I need a simple and reliable way! > Michael Harding > Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk Dunno about your specific circumstances Michael, but here I have a NAS device DS110J attached to the home network of multiple physical computers, some with multiple OSs, I have no problems backing up the RO stuff to the NAS and retrieving it, Filetypes intact, using LanMan98/2 with the correct NoTypes setting. (No archiving required to preserve RO types). Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 17:05:36 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyS1R-0CBGPo-06-Ecw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:05:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyS1R-0CBGPo-06-Ecw; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:50:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyS1R-0CBGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:50:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyS1N-00010p-95 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:50:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DB80BDADC87; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299948624; bh=braoDrtadA3CGT7729kWy3426E2Bgzf8zSV8QKzW v8c=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=pIO6HBhgzOFchMLVVRHw5oriX8D1+TS1gLkh7HK0VHU7V5RvS5 eEDZL2WSmrXzPduXxR8T/KAT6FHxOm0c3HcqrP39cROb5CDqHe+TKy6lCck8obl5eA6 89xTVQ+cl4xf+oPecydhke4DASmbeo6B6Vz0M2EcEEBgsIGX/tGxK4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aLSxQQkwQJdR; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1644CDAC61F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299948623; bh=braoDrtadA3CGT7729kWy3426E2Bgzf8zSV8QKzW v8c=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=arTGAd22OtUDyh/fHboF9lKyDFDt77xrAyittSI0WSVc8MkifX NKvMJK2cXzoicLUKSsBhCiXtlQomd21XHTFU6y3YUK5RYF3LhZ1WNtgG+i/ne0BFBz+ uRetO61rJLCGj8UbLq3yJHzl9R6IfqSuRiKe/g7oDsJyuLZtDJaEXM= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFCEADADC22 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tvYS3itzSmYX for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6105CDAC61F for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyS12-0001F9-h4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:50:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:48:50 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 614 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=xedX7FSSH0QLoVqVq3MA:9 a=BgHqaoKO7lnPSC27azIA:7 a=ayhn2qYqDeKJjnX7GOf14RwBxYUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ojEeqULYvomSk8dz:21 a=hTREK7fg7-mHNbBq:21 Hi, In message <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding writes >Kinetic, if needed]. It was somewhat arduous in that each component >had to be zipped to preserve the R-O filetypes. But it's a good >feeling to have an archive. What I do is set the compression to none, that speeds things up a lot. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 19:50:41 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyUmk-1NG000-06-Brd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:50:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyUmk-1NG000-06-Brd; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:47:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyUmk-1NG000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:47:34 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyUmd-0003Lp-N6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:47:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 250D0DADA99; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299959245; bh=kNIKjskuixq9bsIyh1xiI4RaXCtwmnXlZRhB8BsB WV4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=GgBgFi4DC4W3ZGeonmtkP4NVHF4nTgqetIndPWUtimGF5mEDcO tQWRXkgXd/75mEA4Xv8ufCPU/4HAIm5uSG0VO4Goyt2HmhC401Nnn97T3f9xacMDKEo CtJ9uOSM+wxVcVflHxYZ/VZOJNseTOJ9x/aHAuxuuOA38uA5Bg8CW0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZReAdkqdHRjg; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 299BADAAA52; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299959244; bh=kNIKjskuixq9bsIyh1xiI4RaXCtwmnXlZRhB8BsB WV4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=e2q2rzmznys/eb2LOt48NKQYi0cfRWa1BiRPAPajsLItU053Lt 6YIXQM40jrBcybJYCD93nho3HK45kA79i2Ylx967BR/PdK4T80Bnl3xM7gGKzYtXTp2 Zsuu7G09G7nsXprMhNJH/k4XqOx9Qea/76xc7r6cBD3KTr+g9e5Rlw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5DE9DAAC03 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1wWh2aNIWT08 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 628B3DAAA52 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:09 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkGAM5be03Unw4T/2dsb2JhbACZNY0Od8ARhWIEjFKDTg Received: from outmx04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2011 19:47:09 +0000 Received: from [87.115.222.151] (helo=standalone.xemik.com) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1PyUmK-00039T-TP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:47:09 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:38:08 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51B2F4F484%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 6.01 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 615 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: mik.towse@xemik.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=aWJfat-lAAAA:8 a=R2OTYkJWAAAA:8 a=YLs-sxLQAAAA:8 a=bKMCzSZhAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Kspsf8D-HBKix40UL8IA:9 a=i11MWlakBR0WJdijA0IA:7 a=KzusshdomMTjX9ol9Of6EoXqNVEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=EcQXcao8HCYA:10 a=FeDn5ByjUKUA:10 a=9ZfdAKZ4F2g0LuBO:21 a=ytQh9SGv5niXmULX:21 In article David Pilling wrote: > In message <6cb3d7b251.Bernard@bapfish.plus.com>, Bernard > writes > >There's also a 'Copy' feature at the top of the same menu - you could > >use this to backup your precious RISC OS stuff on to an external > >drive! Couldn't resist that - sorry. > That's not a bad idea. Get another drive. But then what would I put it > in (another Iyonix?). [snip] Well, Virtual RPC isn't expensive... My VRPC HDs are on a removal USB drive, & are backed up to a 2Tb NAS via ViceVersa every 2 days. -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.co.uk/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk xemik.net - cost effective web hosting : http://xemik.net It's not the world that's got so much worse but the news coverage that's got so much better. G K Chesterton To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 20:05:42 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyUrX-1T1000-06-Bmq.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:05:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyUrX-1T1000-06-Bmq; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:52:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyUrX-1T1000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:52:31 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyUrS-0007PN-Gw for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:52:31 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD351DADB2B; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299959544; bh=ZcaqoTvAWEypJ0zbv/Rnek4T0HUrFfB1s1naCk/z P04=; h=To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:From:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ZygXhegMJfMs7W ZCQBTJdsD4BZypY+RjSclwyF+PRtnrBPFq5EZMrExkygfN2P9K0o1t7NxBdmZrHIjCp fr83qB4YOpDaNjOjAZaiHTn5xGk69UJaiOkZyt2DF0bSQwPATIAhOZSENmH5oCL+Fjf fWQPDogJufj1jsrC76AhTTw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K1WQNjtJg8ln; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECECDDAAC13; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:10 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299959544; bh=ZcaqoTvAWEypJ0zbv/Rnek4T0HUrFfB1s1naCk/z P04=; h=To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:From:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=ZygXhegMJfMs7W ZCQBTJdsD4BZypY+RjSclwyF+PRtnrBPFq5EZMrExkygfN2P9K0o1t7NxBdmZrHIjCp fr83qB4YOpDaNjOjAZaiHTn5xGk69UJaiOkZyt2DF0bSQwPATIAhOZSENmH5oCL+Fjf fWQPDogJufj1jsrC76AhTTw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:10 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA0FFDADA35 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aNKQ7IA-+1CY for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com (smtp12.dentaku.gol.com [203.216.5.74]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48EAFDAAC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with smtp (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1PyUrA-0006UR-Es for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 04:52:08 +0900 Received: from 92.41.81.241 (auth. user plattir@pp.mail.gol.com) by webmail.gol.com with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:52:08 +0000 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:52:08 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.14 (On: webmail.gol.com) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> From: "Ian Platt" Bounce-To: "Ian Platt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-archive-position: 616 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: plattir@gol.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=d9frsj0YAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VqSQLPDccmcwqZffueoA:9 a=uPROYaVTtfnY4u310pkA:7 a=Re3IAPtwsDsXk5aDslO1YDMLIXkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=y5PYrnkLHBu6PmzO:21 a=TfsSpZucamo973Xu:21 It's called 'foward thinking' aka 'pro-active planning'. Ian P. On 12/3/2011, "Dr Peter Young" wrote: >On 11 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I've uploaded a new version of Ovation Pro for RISC OS to: > >> http://www.davidpilling.com/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip > >> The thing with rendering rotated JPEGs on PostScript has gone from >> leading edge to skeleton in the cupboard. Anyway I've had another go, it >> works this time. > > >> Someone came along and asked for text file import that works with CRLF >> DOS style files, so I've copied that over from the Windows version. > > >> Thanks to Martin Wuerthner and John Tytgat for their help. > >Just downloaded and installed this version (many thanks, David). Being >inquisitive (well, I wanted to make sure that my newly-installed >backup program was doing the business, which it was), I'm intrigued to >know why the new !RunImage file is dated 11 March 2013 :-) > >With best wishes, > >Peter. > >-- >Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. 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([91.85.180.252]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CJuKT1011692 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:56:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:36:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2f4d31criscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 617 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0ihD7kagZhQh80UmWesA:9 a=odN3gCUIK6ceWQOoSJsA:7 a=zN1ytnI_y7yDvJ4f4nfkkjA0VyUA:4 a=DjMZH2yT_oYV41Jq:21 a=WilqywuR-KEGtThr:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding > writes > >Kinetic, if needed]. It was somewhat arduous in that each component > >had to be zipped to preserve the R-O filetypes. But it's a good > >feeling to have an archive. > What I do is set the compression to none, that speeds things up a > lot. Until you just mentioned it, I couldn't imagine why anyone would zip something up without also shrinking the file size. Brilliant! Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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([91.85.180.252]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CJuKT3011692 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:56:21 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:56:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 618 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=UF1HWEVukVFpBwMXxUIA:9 a=0msoPEe8nGF1o_WOkvcA:7 a=9WKpvguszFWsywg3e3nSlBh8UoEA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Da2807JUOAXA2fhI:21 a=1BKjJ_qD3Ty-YEZu:21 In article <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, > M Harding wrote: > [Snip] > > I back up SA-VRPC on a WindowsXP machine to an identical SA-VRPC > > on a W7 laptop and that's fairly painless: ShareFS is reasonably > > fast. [ . . . ] > > About 6 months ago I saved all the XP's RISC OS files and all the > > crucial programs onto CDs [ . . . ] I'm sure there must be a > > better way, especially since I have an external USB large HD - > > but I need a simple and reliable way! > Dunno about your specific circumstances Michael, but here I have a > NAS device DS110J attached to the home network of multiple physical > computers, some with multiple OSs, I have no problems backing up > the RO stuff to the NAS and retrieving it, Filetypes intact, using > LanMan98/2 with the correct NoTypes setting. I knew it would end up with Grandad teaching me to suck eggs after all! 8-) Thanks for the pointer, Dave. I'll start trying to mug up on LanMan. But I did specify "simple", and the WSS site isn't giving away much information! However, the OvPro site doesn't seem the appropriate place for me to continue this. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from dave.nom ([91.85.163.20]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CLUCoQ012771 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:30:12 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b2ff3d97dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk> <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 619 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GWZlMrvvts0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=avlikalCqmU9mdxzn7EA:9 a=XP4cG9X3CRAosSKaubIA:7 a=xMeWlPqJFJ_T1AqN-vDuEP38TDAA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=Nubr8PFPJyUX1Aqn:21 a=PZLjTNsrN9z74FbE:21 In article <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, M Harding wrote: > In article <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, > > M Harding wrote: > > [Snip] > > > I back up SA-VRPC on a WindowsXP machine to an identical SA-VRPC > > > on a W7 laptop and that's fairly painless: ShareFS is reasonably > > > fast. [ . . . ] > > > About 6 months ago I saved all the XP's RISC OS files and all the > > > crucial programs onto CDs [ . . . ] I'm sure there must be a > > > better way, especially since I have an external USB large HD - > > > but I need a simple and reliable way! > > Dunno about your specific circumstances Michael, but here I have a > > NAS device DS110J attached to the home network of multiple physical > > computers, some with multiple OSs, I have no problems backing up > > the RO stuff to the NAS and retrieving it, Filetypes intact, using > > LanMan98/2 with the correct NoTypes setting. > I knew it would end up with Grandad teaching me to suck eggs after > all! 8-) Thanks for the pointer, Dave. I'll start trying to mug up on > LanMan. But I did specify "simple", and the WSS site isn't giving away > much information! > However, the OvPro site doesn't seem the appropriate place for me to > continue this. > Michael Harding > Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk Michael, LanMan 98 V2 StandAlone is quite simple to use. My DiskStation (NAS) LM setting are: Server: DiskStation Share: Public User: MyUsername (Obviously not the real one) Password: MyPassword (Obviously not the real one) Notypes: N Contact me privately if you want to chat more about it. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 22:05:46 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyWts-0F9Vbs-04-9kV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:05:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyWts-0F9Vbs-04-9kV; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:03:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyWts-0F9Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:03:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyWtn-00037H-Ll for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:03:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 995C9DAC409; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:58 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299967378; bh=9B97yGOiWaQHr1qsFwXYmwpUbYC5F1w9685Y1P2P +W0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Fi9iWXLbW2SJc03BBQ4KiUvZuV3KuTVjIXmip7qawz8s/+eZru ZlokW+XMkBTic37L56mg4E2JIXWOwVmGk1cKJhwnkT7/7XV92FCLAxb6t697BVXpCqg /RT2iqiOFikRcfv3vyHlZsE0PFpcTugGBmwmcAFCM6S3/dc/+DvWT0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dIqZHE-THUvH; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D20E7DAC3D0; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299967377; bh=9B97yGOiWaQHr1qsFwXYmwpUbYC5F1w9685Y1P2P +W0=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=h26lmZeNPiwoj7V9/66YbyRlWEKngXjMrITF2JAdjOPyE254GG Mgg/wQ7JGlWAcmL6/9Z88Sl42ErtwrgpdNdAENiWyuo44FHIHB3ZLEXqMZyYG6CELYm ZtbIYg6594YEChViw4U5pHv1tPXeJULsHLF7ag8VDxfVg9AbY9gQrk= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:44 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC791DAC3DC for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Okq-nR7dR73V for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4109FDAC3D0 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PyWtW-00003t-jT for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:02:42 +0000 Message-ID: <9Fa$4oOqa+eNFwZn@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:33:30 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 620 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sxlnIorZBTl-vDb5pvQA:9 a=PQwthRs3T_cvHq8UUqgA:7 a=sdMuT6R73ae4RgAFrDgCyW8ZEWAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5N12B00Ot6T5VHg_:21 a=kU9T3YB9ZGhjPN9O:21 Hi, You'll be relieved to hear that I have backed up everything. I was pleasantly surprised how fast it went, with compression turned off on SparkFS and FileZilla Server (Windows) configured properly, using FTPc on RISC OS. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Mar 12 22:20:46 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyWyK-0EA000-02-9g3.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:20:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyWyK-0EA000-02-9g3; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyWyK-0EA000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyWyF-0000PP-GY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:07:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FFE6DAC4CB; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:34 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299967654; bh=kC17gHLEkeUGMFDmaQ8NSOnha+KThxrlJ2yyzOng G4c=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=FwFW+lSpYk4YKUvyLFX6Poz3M/KvGtOKVIqWsXG/EPMVylCgDs ATkfKBLAGcXXJH4ElDiKM+A1nxc0JzNyvU9vKoKcEe+kovkepoNXenKJVFQ4pQ7j3z9 H1aY8OIgXSbj5zUOs+KRd2vNcGJdDtaeBFw8YDA4gpgQY47XqkhxV4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWkro4GIBBIm; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81519DAAFDE; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:20 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1299967653; bh=kC17gHLEkeUGMFDmaQ8NSOnha+KThxrlJ2yyzOng G4c=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=Ov/Jlkd77/sjBgZmRKTE1ThpslLe+Luh4KY/5JoK5HEgGTKif0 sYOpH45TMUu1/muih8Gf7oQURdaF/W+QUWoG6Z4Pvxim0Pt36uUcQdmCbswjda1vC4C AzOc5xv5f2VYobEkfld7Dbja12uOMVJg+ikPms0yK6f/VkwGoiuV/k= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5954EDAAFF2 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TjCDbUkfyv+n for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E39BADAAFDE for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (88-202-202-49.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.202.49]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CM6r0U013184 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:06:55 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:04:35 GMT Message-ID: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <9Fa$4oOqa+eNFwZn@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9Fa$4oOqa+eNFwZn@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.01 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 621 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=CKwIYTfOAAAA:8 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=iJsUY9_0ndr3GtCYo1UA:9 a=7ortR8__FJHTVNW2THgA:7 a=TfZYE9jkdyLbbZMgWN2POy9MCr4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=xfLRfHfH3VokmUFj:21 a=IrLhhm3kS9mJGQ09:21 On 12 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > You'll be relieved to hear that I have backed up everything. I was > pleasantly surprised how fast it went, with compression turned off on > SparkFS and FileZilla Server (Windows) configured properly, using FTPc > on RISC OS. Phew :-) Your efforts are greatly appreciated by RISC OS users. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ __ __ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 13 11:46:42 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pyfgm-0tA000-05-9U7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:46:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pyfgm-0tA000-05-9U7; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:26:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pyfgm-0tA000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:26:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pyfgg-00023d-Kf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:26:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9E3BFDADB83; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300001141; bh=YuCx0jckHFNUUlH8sZhnVJAtjyySkHUk+ticnkeI e98=; h=To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:From:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=oRPKPWiUnsZPHH 99jh1YmSzOUU1omdxjK1nN3vfmiHlLWmHP2YOWRXwIelVTig4ZiathE3E3i9USBxM5C tDqQhPokZwuMwU26k2rGMHdknS6cWYvNIzQTRq7AVhfrJyUmDlU2Z1KAkYg3uT13yDr jRllkZXE31IhQ1KASO6F3GY= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L+lu2kn2F4jc; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E32A5DADA10; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300001140; bh=YuCx0jckHFNUUlH8sZhnVJAtjyySkHUk+ticnkeI e98=; h=To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:From:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id: List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=rbOxZzF8KORi5I nLXMTwBFbSBgdlyTqIk/wzlb23fIgiB/oDkF5UF5X3ttmNJTZZ9PMf4CvUGhT2+BlXh cDmHbynG+tBpx3iVWArPSFINd7GoZbKi4L+7jQrFf+/Z8jCANMUhgOfWnMS6IukBKUa naa6wERXn2NSXxTfNJEavoY= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6D789DAD9B0 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IbgABL4pqpp for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com (smtp12.dentaku.gol.com [203.216.5.74]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E8AE7DADB49 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with smtp (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1Pyfg4-0004Sy-Oa for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:25:24 +0900 Received: from 92.40.13.221 (auth. user plattir@pp.mail.gol.com) by webmail.gol.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:25:24 +0000 To: "davidpilling@freelists.org" Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:25:24 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.14 (On: webmail.gol.com) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Ian Platt" Bounce-To: "Ian Platt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-archive-position: 622 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: plattir@gol.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FMrhigSgXIRdVvWeYPwA:9 a=1k4GLX3gcF7ZpO8Y6jQA:7 a=nMt4Pjtysny_gioqux2GBQMgUroA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=8MUfjkiqShJZ3yFn:21 a=eBMbh2ob8I2bj2v-:21 Sorry to be tangential to the topic, but what 'hardware fix' is that? Regards Ian P. On 12/3/2011, "David Pilling" wrote: >Hi, > >In message <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson > writes >>You should have upgraded to RISC OS 5.16!! > >The thing is, if the Iyonix goes wrong, I lose all my RISC OS stuff. I >think it is on RISC OS 5.06. I got a later version a while back, but I >can't bring myself to risk it. > >It's not had the hardware fix and the power supply is dodgy, I have to >coax it into life every time I turn it on. > >Am I worrying you. > >You can also use "Stamp" from the usual RISC OS menu to update the time >stamp on the !RunImage. I'll update the archive soon. > > >-- >David Pilling >email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22E4ADAB481 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1PyhsA-0008FD-4A for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:46:02 +0000 Received: from [77.102.179.33] (helo=Iyonix) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pyhs4-0007CO-RX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:45:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John M Ward To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:45:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b3428c8bjohn@acornusers.org> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <9Fa$4oOqa+eNFwZn@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@acornusers.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=5JhhAp52AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=toUrk-wiZi83RALq2dAA:9 a=G8ReJdxlzKFKCyWNtlUA:7 a=ogO3D7ZKwoDgOpQIIp477oyTKCEA:4 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=dd7pyv-UsnDBytR7:21 a=KCgS43zu36AnZt8W:21 In article , Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 12 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > > Hi, > > You'll be relieved to hear that I have backed up everything. I was > > pleasantly surprised how fast it went, with compression turned off > > on SparkFS and FileZilla Server (Windows) configured properly, > > using FTPc on RISC OS. > Phew :-) > Your efforts are greatly appreciated by RISC OS users. Agreed! The "eggs in one basket" scenario is always a worry, but especially so in the case of a developer. Perhaps someone else could act as a "data warehouse", to whom anything critical can be copied (by all means encrypt it first if you wish) -- a service I run very successfully for several people, so I know how well this can work. Thus even a meteorite striking one's house cannot wipe out all copies of anything important... -- John Ward in Medway, Kent - using RISC OS since 1987 Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 3 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 13 12:16:39 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pyk0D-2fK000-08-DhC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:16:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pyk0D-2fK000-08-DhC; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:02:29 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pyk0D-2fK000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:02:29 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pyk09-0004au-QQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:02:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F492DAC231; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300017744; bh=hB2BaiI/7S8Mp0A1MznaDsfg3sqo+sZkAVcdSmET 96Y=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=RoIy93 /p+i+Gq28fpmtXZfB55kv7xYy9pUZiAO7bpnAjstXsOLyqVm6kV9y8Iu5pCGsbrg7lS CsPysvHKwAGCLJR/2KS12wqeVg67E1NISOlzL2U9557jWklrq4hDq1M5MOkcHVrz1Cg PPYfnd5Ty6UvtBYuP9EL9BNTgTNQpvU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bupB1iDZafwB; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 161A0DAC03C; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300017743; bh=hB2BaiI/7S8Mp0A1MznaDsfg3sqo+sZkAVcdSmET 96Y=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=lOOBAH SBFfA8d4ymWXU/yAssxdk8rTvWzkiowpVHFvQvlyK0S23vQQLUPOuoS9XEA63KxlMxp e6UY0dpNyODcTTao8/u8L5oxgir1sRbe4r/beYZ6xMATHkRpZ5c0X/QX3atv8rAUM2f iOf2SxcPxmna2184OSN7l1BuXcEDlpc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4686DABFD1 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vgU7UM2DCHHc for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11D48DAB295 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AMD2. ([82.153.221.198]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2DC1ghF025430 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:01:43 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:50:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b34dfe7criscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <9Fa$4oOqa+eNFwZn@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 624 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=FPpAqs8VAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0RQbQSNjNl4D4NAGg1AA:9 a=uoaaL3RETRuzy_8o3Q0A:7 a=otXfBmBltMOf_VODm25w4YvoRlEA:4 a=cXyJP3dajKoA:10 a=Y4fj8osBnW2R2tYr:21 a=rKZ0t42iQdvNwU0G:21 In article , Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 12 Mar 2011 David Pilling wrote: > > You'll be relieved to hear that I have backed up everything. I > > was pleasantly surprised how fast it went, with compression > > turned off on SparkFS and FileZilla Server (Windows) configured > > properly, using FTPc on RISC OS. > Phew :-) > Your efforts are greatly appreciated by RISC OS users. Amen to that. Including those who advocate that you use SpakFS. 8-) Michael Harding Rev. Preb. 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([82.153.221.198]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2DC1ghD025430 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:01:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: M Harding To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:47:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b34dbf5criscos@mdharding.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <51b2ff3d97dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <8eaeb9b251.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> <9ObPqYCuW2eNFwZP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <51b2ceb472chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2d9ce92chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <51b2ddcce6riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <51b2e2b3e1dave@triffid.co.uk> <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk> <51b2ff3d97dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: riscos@mdharding.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=Ec7uXxgCAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XuxLIUHkKLTq9vZB8CgA:9 a=cCyZc7VH8WFbOw4qHboA:7 a=cXUoWpjEyquQHP6rgfHUVviSt-UA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=iHtYf4WhaK3hlK41:21 a=IjoG9QOMibGp32t2:21 In article <51b2ff3d97dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <51b2f6ac07riscos@mdharding.org.uk>, > M Harding wrote: > > I knew it would end up with Grandad teaching me to suck eggs > > after all! 8-) Thanks for the pointer, Dave. I'll start trying to > > mug up on LanMan. But I did specify "simple", and the WSS site > > isn't giving away much information! > Contact me privately if you want to chat more about it. Thank you, Dave. I will, when I've got some urgent stuff out of the way. Michael Harding Rev. Preb. M.D. Harding riscos@mdharding.org.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 13 12:16:39 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pyk4D-4Daknw-05-DdC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:16:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pyk4D-4Daknw-05-DdC; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:06:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pyk4D-4Daknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:06:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pyk47-0004sT-M8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:06:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C02D7DAC454; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300017988; bh=YruqEBtkPVjtsroZSDqlXY4gcrNYl8pW8mwupM4U DWQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=NyyJHpzE1XMHK3f8dqLueouqW/JfCVd4R83JNmg6O1MFLm2PD5 sQhO33qK+/lBRXj7TX1bI5Jww1Qs4iSJ3Hr10EEqFuydZ5NN8QBQ4n3ASnvfzatqd3D ASv8vAN27WX/quJzouE2YlTbcgzQc/x1WUxF0JE1cp7Osi+WLR810Q= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZaALcMbeyMi; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B25B6DAC22F; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300017987; bh=YruqEBtkPVjtsroZSDqlXY4gcrNYl8pW8mwupM4U DWQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=oe4prTSo4gUOFo9umGW24N2UHsPz70eJVPVvFFrD0H9am1AEd3 KP93TTB6TmZYC9dEE7MTcrUDebCHgZ6I8ycka2Z2su8xzk97LCudT4MEjHhjGLa2ecR bFYU5RAOpMDofAqLK8NivISbBuukqCLlBlYN+oPkX02fmq4PrWGex0= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A6E0DAC231 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9pHmolXLYai1 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A150DAC22F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Pyk3o-0003pY-pJ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:05:11 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 626 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XwwnfwBjAAAA:8 a=LrOe-ihMAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JHJ1oFx9a0tC21bIDKMA:9 a=i2SdFJFmhpl_hvNVDg0A:7 a=T8trbbnwXoUdcS2oUjX2XtKMb9QA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pyUrM9oW_S0A:10 a=qjnnYxWtun0A:10 a=t8WKP1JrcDF6X4Ln:21 a=19Yvcm39yC6TaPqQ:21 Hi, In message , Ian Platt writes >Sorry to be tangential to the topic, but what 'hardware fix' is that? I got one of the first Iyonix, it worked perfectly for a few months, then it started hanging during boot. Eventually it became apparent it was a general hardware problem, and you could take your machine back to Castle to have it fixed. It is amazing to think that the Iyonix is getting on for 10 years old. At the time the hardware fix came out, it was about six months old, and although the problem seemed to affect lots of machines then, set against 10 years it would only be a fraction. More recently, it won't turn on at all if it has been left with the power on, but with the machine not started up. So I have to remember to turn off the power on the back after use. In message <51b3428c8bjohn@acornusers.org>, John M Ward writes >Thus even a meteorite striking one's house cannot wipe out all copies of >anything important... Am I going to have my DNA stored at your house... The odds of a meteorite strike are low, the odds of someone saying "what if your house is hit..." and it actually happening are a lot lower. I think you've protected me from that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. 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Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpbrm-ews33.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.164]) by cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:22:42 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.17]) by cpbrm-ews33.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:22:42 +0100 Received: from iyonix.delink.speed.planet.nl ([213.10.58.27]) by CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:22:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:22:38 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2011 12:22:42.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[598F3140:01CBE179] X-RcptDomain: freelists.org X-archive-position: 627 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Paul@sprie.nl Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ryjWJeIEWArm-kTE8_AA:9 a=vq5zwbDa7zDgo5iDVSwA:7 a=nqqM-QAvak-HvcheObg51Cg5UkwA:4 a=7KFp4sGY3Vbwyyt6:21 a=8FrQg11f0tjbuFf0:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > The odds of a meteorite strike are low, the odds of someone saying "what > if your house is hit..." and it actually happening are a lot lower. I > think you've protected me from that. The old joke in a new coat! Very funny, thank you. 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Only if you wish it. I have always offered a Vigay-like service (though with nowhere near his level of technical expertise, just the same underlying principles) which is why I am happy to receive encrypted data (so I can't read it anyway) and use my extensive -- and bordering on famous[!] -- on-site and off-site multi-generational backup facilities to others, so that they don't have to bother with all of that. I'll take care of it... It is genuinely meant kindly and constructively, and is merely an offer. I really don't mind if no-one here takes me up on it. > The odds of a meteorite strike are low, the odds of someone saying > "what if your house is hit..." and it actually happening are a lot > lower. I think you've protected me from that. It was only an example that perhaps everyone would recognise. It is possible that I am getting paranoid in my old(er) age; but it is notable that I never lose any data! -- John Ward in Medway, Kent - using RISC OS since 1987 Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 3 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC! 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Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A9526DAC063 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Pyl0h-0001Dp-As for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:07:03 +0000 Received: from [77.102.179.33] (helo=Iyonix) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pyl0L-0000ZH-0c for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:06:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John M Ward To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:06:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b354f0e2john@acornusers.org> In-Reply-To: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> References: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 629 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@acornusers.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=5JhhAp52AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=snH66nwLXncke0VXzAwA:9 a=MhTbI7_bGgmo45L-KGIA:7 a=X5ZUT9pjPEyEAo57Q8abpyN9DSwA:4 a=32MOZXu8JqXJl_JF:21 a=567FUtteadAH7bzR:21 In article <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > The odds of a meteorite strike are low, the odds of someone saying > > "what if your house is hit..." and it actually happening are a lot > > lower. I think you've protected me from that. > The old joke in a new coat! > Very funny, thank you. Yes: I got the same feeling regarding railway accidents when I was involved in a minor one, funnily enough on the way to a funeral some years ago. I reasoned that the odds against my being involved in future rail accident had been (statistically) hugely reduced as a result! -- John Ward in Medway, Kent - using RISC OS since 1987 Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 3 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 13 16:46:48 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PyoI0-12AVbs-08-9PP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PyoI0-12AVbs-08-9PP; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:37:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PyoI0-12AVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:37:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PyoHx-0002be-Hj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:37:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB86FDAC3A1; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:37:03 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300034223; bh=kQSPb0C+MyzPV2/lPhh5JhiIVhSi5XTQFpSfylAX YH0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=KFTDf4 iGlE+H6gH2/QEEG5W/AKtZ0GdU8bs23lvxdxK92Tet+jLnCHGycfKmhY7Vq4yfRz6VL Ul1K9DYcD6S078ViY+Fz/N4b+8HyBxUlgJHcfFM29kVoKAoxZMx/6SiDrNCtElwlZGm j9K144Z0qzL+qyssBxO4RzpkSTm6JIQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nSzNaSGxyCEs; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1436DDAC1C9; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:36:50 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300034222; bh=kQSPb0C+MyzPV2/lPhh5JhiIVhSi5XTQFpSfylAX YH0=; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe: List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=XCrU7Q KWUx3qTYLbfl61AaRDeGoBtBcbuGIix1SHtWD/mLLbO56Ny6znMPPrZKIuGOxHLbZ4i hKAclQbUFfb+DiCDEzSu4ZkMqt0LhI/7ROnY5K1J+A+vntiiz0tW8AQOR8iN8ClFGrr kByAf1WFmjN50MPFsLvN1gVADn6lsEw= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D7B8EDAC240 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xnS+dcHItbVx for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 09EACDAC1C9 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.97.42.81] (helo=chris.Cornant) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PyoHe-0005sE-Tm for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:36:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Bell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March Message-ID: <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> In-Reply-To: <51b354f0e2john@acornusers.org> References: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> <51b354f0e2john@acornusers.org> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [88.97.42.81] X-archive-position: 630 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@highpath.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=LrOe-ihMAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=8np7lAPnm36Q_dhlLHUA:9 a=3I9YO3Tw4Ih2MvMFNlYA:7 a=Dv3bQdm-QjJLAr2lOHjbrvI6hHYA:4 a=qjnnYxWtun0A:10 John M Ward wrote: > Yes: I got the same feeling regarding railway accidents when I was > involved in a minor one, funnily enough on the way to a funeral some > years ago. I reasoned that the odds against my being involved in > future rail accident had been (statistically) hugely reduced as a > result! Our insurance got a whole lot cheaper after our house was struck by lightning - it's a nice feeling, knowing it'll never happen again. But I'm sure I could manage to lose everything on my hard-drive again - that was far too easy the first time. Chris. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Mar 13 17:31:49 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pyp1X-1i0GPo-03-8fs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:31:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pyp1X-1i0GPo-03-8fs; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:24:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pyp1X-1i0GPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:24:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pyp1U-0007iP-En for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:24:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 01739DAC2CB; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:24:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300037046; bh=rZwyTvDOO1mx11hPKNJfrqUd64rQ/2MUPpJ6b3lx Wjc=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=QmQXErTeaGHXbdTTJ5ft1NyK4jEW1OIF8w2hubHXMc7fVe+srL 7fMUY1om2OWKx6BTpUlg2PTsZ7MOyvfcSmW4bB6gHD8ssxoX1WmCxbnnKx9FDONOh40 xOWtcCwGp9W/LBH+1uZH5BVQ1wg6KQm7t/648zuajnkKwSMXVhHQ44= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9BXPbH1y73uV; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E8388DAC0E8; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:23:51 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300037044; bh=rZwyTvDOO1mx11hPKNJfrqUd64rQ/2MUPpJ6b3lx Wjc=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=lJZbVGwoxlFH7/ga1msV3PX48fbydTjR4jTkio2VJ7KnvXQFOE RtTcJNZCek3o7u5KotNwZEjlZBF0RlxpxOWCQpGQVVB2Xfzerl/h+t3vxYkh9C2mc8H JR5EI2YOUHZuDj4B9PMAAxrTx7RwYF7UIMh0pA6zLDoDHxeUXfcvQ4= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:23:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5F6EDAC100 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:23:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7GzOMes8H3w for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ECDA1DAC0E8 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([82.153.223.3]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2DHNNJ0029331 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:23:24 GMT Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:23:43 GMT Message-ID: <5d7c6cb351.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> <51b354f0e2john@acornusers.org> <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> In-Reply-To: <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 631 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lQkeLoolAAAA:8 a=LrOe-ihMAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6v_H7B_lfx5Gt8DkFGMA:9 a=c2MeJgmjeXgwusWUkYIA:7 a=90Mznja3gjZJ5SlOSXInMvYeEP8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IEUhiB9JQM8A:10 a=qjnnYxWtun0A:10 a=Vg3i59psiguvsMHP:21 a=xiLQDnTNppGSevmX:21 In message <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> Chris Bell wrote: > John M Ward wrote: >> Yes: I got the same feeling regarding railway accidents when I was >> involved in a minor one, funnily enough on the way to a funeral some >> years ago. I reasoned that the odds against my being involved in >> future rail accident had been (statistically) hugely reduced as a >> result! > Our insurance got a whole lot cheaper after our house was struck by > lightning - it's a nice feeling, knowing it'll never happen again. Our house was struck by lightning 3 times - but hasn't been in the 20 years since a 400-foot tall lift testing tower was built less than a mile away. Being struck by lightning doesn't reduce the chance of being struck again - it merely causes an upward assessment of the risk - if you are in a high-risk place then the risk is higher than a default assessment. > But I'm sure I could manage to lose everything on my hard-drive again - > that was far too easy the first time. > Chris. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 14 21:11:34 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pyvlm-4TCknw-03-AS9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:11:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pyvlm-4TCknw-03-AS9; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:36:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pyvlm-4TCknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; 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Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:36:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0nALbvpgKNdr for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.213]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3ABC5DAA3AB for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([91.84.178.41]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2E0ZXI7002000 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:35:33 GMT Message-ID: <4D7D62EE.4000909@appleshack.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:35:58 +0000 From: Tony Todd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <51b350eba9Paul@sprie.nl> <51b354f0e2john@acornusers.org> <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> In-Reply-To: <51b3682f84lists@highpath.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 632 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tonytodd@appleshack.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=LrOe-ihMAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=1A9ENDq3IY52wJpsDS4A:9 a=oZ_3DUPknrGARYZrehoA:7 a=VpUsYPCC_8_IQKVezFQ52pJuS5gA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=qjnnYxWtun0A:10 a=mZA29JfnRNs5lNqx:21 a=cJ4AtqG4_YYS0RmZ:21 On 13/03/2011 16:36, Chris Bell wrote: > John M Ward wrote: > SNIP > > Our insurance got a whole lot cheaper after our house was struck by > lightning - it's a nice feeling, knowing it'll never happen again. I believe this is a false assumption. You are as likely to be hit by lightning on any day as on any other. The day after a lightning strike has just the same odds as the day before. Thus you might buy a lottery ticket the week after winning the jackpot and still have the same chances of winning as you always had (rather less than being hit by lightning I suspect). However, back to O Pro. I have a very early Iyonix - one of the first 512s and a nice young man in Crook, Co Durham did the hardware mods for me. Such is the cameraderie linked to our OS. I've been running O Pro on it just about from day 1. Nowadays I also run Win O Pro on the Windows 7 64 bit machine and more recently via VRPC on the same machine. So 3 strings to my bow. Keep going David. You may never know how grateful we are. > > But I'm sure I could manage to lose everything on my hard-drive again - > that was far too easy the first time. > > Chris. > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 14 21:11:41 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Pz3AZ-1PXGPo-01-BZs.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:11:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Pz3AZ-1PXGPo-01-BZs; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:30:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Pz3AZ-1PXGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:30:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Pz3AW-0002ar-76 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:30:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89172DADB97; 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Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out5.laposte.net (out6.laposte.net [193.251.214.123]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD599DABFE3 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meplus.info (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf8407.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD9CB70000A9 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:30:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from wwinf8223 (unknown [10.98.51.224]) by mwinf8407.laposte.net (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4C6370000A7 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:30:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20110314083002740.B4C6370000A7@mwinf8407.laposte.net From: Trevor Johnson To: davidpilling freelists org Message-ID: <30945451.83589.1300091402715.JavaMail.www@wwinf8223> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [91.212.105.30] X-Wum-Nature: EMAIL-NATURE X-WUM-FROM: |~| X-WUM-TO: |~| X-WUM-REPLYTO: |~| Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:30:02 +0100 (CET) X-me-spamlevel: not-spam X-me-spamrating: 35.799999 X-me-spamcause: OK, (-105)(0000)gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfedugedrudegucetggdotefuucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuoehnohhnvgeqnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenjhgvucdlqdehmd X-archive-position: 633 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: trevor.johnson@laposte.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9GS3DpVOSAAA:10 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=N3MVZeMUas4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=AVbMHacnAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gxKwBDAqPSpZhn7j17EA:9 a=7UgByNuDpcmLv9J7mlUA:7 a=eedJDabC9d7JGeGtMOS0N1LooPwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yvZ1BPFDISIA:10 Thanks for these latest updates. I've been using the RISC User Nutshell CD-ROM recently on the Touch Book (v= ia an image file). Before this update, JPEGs in the OPro files were very sl= ow to render and really slowed the system down. In fact, they weren't all f= ully displayed, although they could be exported OK. Now with the latest update, things are markedly improved and usable. I'll d= o some further testing on the TB, and can mail you off-list if I note any e= rrors which are repeatable. Thanks Trevor --=20 Trevor JOHNSON trevor.johnson@laposte.net=20 Une messagerie gratuite, garantie =C3=A0 vie et des services en plus, =C3= =A7a vous tente ? Je cr=C3=A9e ma bo=C3=AEte mail www.laposte.net To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 14 21:26:27 2011 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1PzFER-4WvVbs-04-GZ2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:26:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1PzFER-4WvVbs-04-GZ2; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:23:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1PzFER-4WvVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:23:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1PzFEM-0004ur-PA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:23:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FCD9DAC05B; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300137789; bh=ndvkA9EypYDeSRBIaZhPeo0qopMA0KfRdVJE6CRQ hyo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=OJ8oBIakXT8OYfawwppSjO6ByiO+T/j5AqvguyJmn4pm0wkx31 ACfN9u+MUsAEmj5d6s3lQHvPMaUsyb+lY5rt4eqdGQVt4vpf/EFlgxqL12sFMsWTxQy NcK7ABl5B+y/XfXP9LEV5dMG3OMuPtyw1dU5ZYlh0RXV28sNJi4yyQ= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8yTvVVt11WG; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6288DAC051; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1300137788; bh=ndvkA9EypYDeSRBIaZhPeo0qopMA0KfRdVJE6CRQ hyo=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:List-help: List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe:List-owner:List-post: List-archive; b=m6vTMvVP84sXrKoK/gjMb4GlWXepu2TPvgHKTTKcqsz3bmKC8o MUoxC3B2Ts4K4ACZrDlp1rOCjCZdJo6Pi4DiVepkhu1W5rPVGFWYTUAb5Jdx05QVjAC oGr+xj5Qx/hTynX+LTRqjo2fpdTEk7TEm5cNSL27sgbWijoXkIwcXc= Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C203DAC058 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FLZfGKCx1n9l for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA33BDAC051 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1PzFE5-0003QI-ak for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:22:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:21:40 +0000 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro RISC OS 2.77 10th March References: <30945451.83589.1300091402715.JavaMail.www@wwinf8223> In-Reply-To: <30945451.83589.1300091402715.JavaMail.www@wwinf8223> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-S () X-archive-position: 634 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IHsHFDFd6BIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=AVbMHacnAAAA:8 a=P-NweQeuAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4ykX_4DZn309oT4TAOkA:9 a=ciyX-Q_9yuXNL2RZf64A:7 a=OFPWrkmmPa5Ldv7FiX0EWqELTSEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yvZ1BPFDISIA:10 a=on19ogVHCRcTisgb:21 a=gWu9FIa1Kc1QagqX:21 Hi, In message <30945451.83589.1300091402715.JavaMail.www@wwinf8223>, Trevor Johnson writes >I've been using the RISC User Nutshell CD-ROM recently on the Touch >Book (via an image file). Before this update, JPEGs in the OPro files >were very slow to render and really slowed the system down. In fact, >they weren't all fully displayed, although they could be exported OK. I think that was a symptom of the original bug. Now although I've talked about improving PostScript performance, if one had a graphics accelerator, or any extension to RISC OS that would render rotated JPEGs on screen, then screen updates should improve too. Martin Wuerthner mentioned Geminus, I've only vaguely heard of that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling