From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jun 24 21:43:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ORtE3-2EMknw-08-CbE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:43:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ORtE3-2EMknw-08-CbE; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:40:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ORtE3-2EMknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:40:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ORtE1-0006f1-QH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:40:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3B3F3D17BD9; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUZrbLORRSMf; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8445FD17AEE; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CB51D17BD9 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YpL0Hl+WVU3x for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA537D17AEE for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([82.152.254.138]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5OKeJpk018869 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:40:20 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Anyone into writing applets? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:40:16 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2460 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3LhmBaouw_EA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=H-ixlHtTkSUk2U3OgrYA:9 a=UYz_CBfSwhgqXZSlfPgA:7 a=52FW2Rdv7oj34e0L-W3Mu47xc6oA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=siNBXe6wWHTm7r20:21 a=OfHkLEeFUdkzw5Nq:21 I've got an application which seems to require a new applet - correct me please if one already exists. Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. The first date in the calendar might therefore be d-7 i.e. a week before the reference date, and the last might be d+21, 3 weeks after the reference. It would be great if I could embed tags in the document for, say d-7, set up the reference date in some other form of tag, and have the printed document, and ideally the displayed document, embed the resulting date. A similar model to mail-merge would work. Of course there is then the issue of format - 24th June, 24Jun2010, Thu 24 June, 24/6/10, Thursday 24th etc. (I would guess that most of the logic, and a lot of the code, could also deal with h-hour to put times in. That's not so important to me - yet...) Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the application. How are tags dealt with? -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 25 11:32:04 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1ORuVf-3ZZ000-07-BJc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:32:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1ORuVf-3ZZ000-07-BJc; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:02:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1ORuVf-3ZZ000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:02:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1ORuVe-0000Mw-Aa for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9EA5D17484; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yBNIggeDa6Ve; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 29FCAD173D0; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 057BDD173F3 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KIly7I0KguEv for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C2107D173D0 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1ORuVN-0005eq-Yq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:02:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:01:09 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=bJAhZ9F2VRwL6681B14A:7 a=hIAVMu_CW0BI07sRCcQcBwBZU94A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qse1Afq8g89GBODD:21 a=lmv21Z9y7STTxfm4:21 In message , Alan Adams writes >Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the >run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a >constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. Plenty to think about there, devious ways of doing what you want. I'm sure it can be done. One obvious way is 'mail merge'. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 25 11:32:29 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS3W8-1EEknw-02-Apf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:32:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS3W8-1EEknw-02-Apf; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:40:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS3W8-1EEknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:40:04 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS3W5-0004QM-Ry for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ACB78D16D09; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SO0kG97DSLkw; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D555CD16A0B; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8204D16D09 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1VMK0IGS9Vdr for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56D4CD16A0B for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.196.159]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5P7dfSF007998 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:39:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:39:30 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS Message-ID: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2462 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zNANCjgXmV0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=SyG8EZYHXvOynNQ2G4UA:9 a=ErirvYJfpazRiJPqZy8A:7 a=jghkz47DCNaVAPooAqTd44JCdC0A:4 SparkFS 1.42 on a SARPC RO 6.20 With a DES and password secured archive, why does the "Forget" button not do what it says? What exactly is the "Forget" button for, if it doesn't forget the password? Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 25 11:33:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS4sf-0cpknw-04-9T8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:33:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS4sf-0cpknw-04-9T8; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:07:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS4sf-0cpknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:07:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS4se-0003fL-G0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:07:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE36AD17D2F; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CC2sidk8FTNI; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1E067D17C69; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E4E0DD17C71 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9xjaduHW3Ukp for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 984E7D17C69 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:07:08 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArMEANIOJEzUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACTD40jwSmCfYIkBA Received: from outmx06.plus.net (HELO outmx04.plus.net) ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2010 10:07:07 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OS4sM-0005sn-MB for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:07:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:06:10 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2463 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qfsPNd65XsrYIpkXOFYA:9 a=9t2QPxh-cFYtZAzn-AgA:7 a=kGEHtWjMPRoiFjia3_uKmVmLv-kA:4 a=GuD6kkZSeGoA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=6dfUCJBblIRSUbgv:21 a=Xm55yyETmqNG-3xU:21 In article <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > What exactly is the "Forget" button for, if it doesn't forget the > password? Forget the archive? -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 25 12:02:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS6K2-2EsGPo-06-GYH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:02:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS6K2-2EsGPo-06-GYH; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:39:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS6K2-2EsGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:39:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS6K1-0000zP-27 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:39:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F146D17DDC; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4JwkkTz1baBF; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86737D1544C; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DB25D15861 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r3BnbIvbXAi6 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12F3DD1544C for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OS6Jg-0005V3-f4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:39:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:38:06 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2464 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=Mo-gx0rFMGrdU8JOJIQA:7 a=9xcjfouQaRut9drtMDVRVwU-sTQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=QV9cGUTxmOqzF4kJ:21 a=cSVGHP8qMu8lOlVt:21 In message <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >SparkFS 1.42 on a SARPC RO 6.20 > >With a DES and password secured archive, why does the "Forget" button not >do what it says? > >What exactly is the "Forget" button for, if it doesn't forget the password? Good point, 'forget' removes the archive from SparkFS memory, but I forgot to remove the password information. It would be a good idea to do that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Jun 25 12:02:11 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS6NP-145knw-05-GUu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:02:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS6NP-145knw-05-GUu; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS6NP-145knw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS6NJ-0000mG-Bw for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D9836D154EF; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:43:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5yR4foUZjdlC; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E3FC2D14B63; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B5DB6D14C35 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezET3lNFNB3m for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 809B8D14B63 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OS6My-0001qP-WS for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:42:49 +0000 Message-ID: <14w3nCBQfIJMFwme@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:41:20 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2465 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=dswc0qZlgMtfNTWyKYQA:7 a=7eMYQKUViS1VU6duRfOvbHJCuLsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PF00u-tpPDMrISIQ:21 a=1T7e1m9tK5hkEoXY:21 In message , David Pilling writes >In message , Alan Adams > writes > >>Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the >>run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a >>constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. Another way would be to put strings in your document '[DAY-7]' and then run a search and replace script that changes [DAY-7] to 18th June 2010. To get to that you'd take a little of the fluff applet (just the function call to do a search/replace) and add a bit of one of the applets that inserts dates (how to call RISC OS to get a date string). Starting to look quite easy. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:19:50 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS7EA-1OrGPo-01-Fe9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:19:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS7EA-1OrGPo-01-Fe9; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:37:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS7EA-1OrGPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:37:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS7E5-0000LR-Vo for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:37:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0BB59D17DB8; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EGVtptfaVDsH; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 205FED17D69; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5994D17D6F for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ILK7rKeLEJVN for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.11]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF114D17D69 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb-87-82-19-254.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.19.254] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OS7Dm-000Mi6-Ao for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:37:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] pre-press checking for DPI of pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:26:28 +0100 Message-ID: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2466 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NW7SDykCS40A:10 a=hO-oPbc3tlwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=kET4-_J_iYmkWG61SYMA:9 a=NJfKXPzANit1KNH7TvgA:7 a=Na1BYPbh4KatQHSGJmorxFOnTm8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jBWI5yYYbLMhK4qE:21 a=H0Eb-L5ZNitdmaLr:21 my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) is with the printer at last. i've just had a report back (groan) saying a hardcopy laserproof is on its way to me by post: We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking software has identified that many of the illustrations in the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to your attention. does an OPro applet exists that would go through my file and report (perhaps in list form) the resolution of pictures? there must be a couple of hundred of them, and i can't bear the prospect of checking them all manually. this is the first big job i've done in OPro. thanks. --jim -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:19:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS7Lc-1G4knw-06-FWh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:19:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS7Lc-1G4knw-06-FWh; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:45:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS7Lc-1G4knw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:45:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS7LX-0004uY-ID for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:45:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EAD25D17D7E; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-Dldu4HwTOT; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B24DD17CFD; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA704D17D0E for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QlEd7T00kuEg for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BF90D17CFD for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40so254229wyb.10 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.141.137 with SMTP id m9mr468112wbu.202.1277466305411; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DougLaptop (know-mailgateway-3.server.virginmedia.net [62.254.26.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p17sm59798434wbe.2.2010.06.25.04.45.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([82.27.218.36]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:45:04 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 82.27.218.36 Message-ID: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> From: "Doug Thompson" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:45:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 X-archive-position: 2467 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dougal99@virginmedia.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=tKAsXRkRUu4A:10 a=Na5Yms2_1osA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=Wyytatouvj4foPlJVN8A:9 a=2nzPXamzhhKXcgCQzHMA:7 a=U5vYKEL616E2G9bhWicSgDjT6hAA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=p13JDvVR3wQnUgbu:21 a=knHExGLYdNSU3YYm:21 Simply Create a CSV file of your dates from a spreadsheet using the date function to calculate your dates from your base date. The CSV file needs to contain enough records to meet your needs. In this case the records would all be the same data, created using the $ copy option. Put mail merge tags in your document as appropriate and then simply mail merge. I'm sure you could experiment with times as well. Hope this is of use and not teaching granny to suck. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Adams" To: Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Anyone into writing applets? > I've got an application which seems to require a new applet - correct > me please if one already exists. > > Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the > run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a > constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. > > The first date in the calendar might therefore be d-7 i.e. a week > before the reference date, and the last might be d+21, 3 weeks after > the reference. > > It would be great if I could embed tags in the document for, say d-7, > set up the reference date in some other form of tag, and have the > printed document, and ideally the displayed document, embed the > resulting date. A similar model to mail-merge would work. > > Of course there is then the issue of format - 24th June, 24Jun2010, > Thu 24 June, 24/6/10, Thursday 24th etc. > > (I would guess that most of the logic, and a lot of the code, could > also deal with h-hour to put times in. That's not so important to me - > yet...) > > Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I > haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is > possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the > application. How are tags dealt with? > > > -- > Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire > alan@adamshome.org.uk > http://www.nckc.org.uk/ > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:19:58 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OS8PP-21i000-02-ESu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:19:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OS8PP-21i000-02-ESu; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OS8PP-21i000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OS8PK-00066U-Fr for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12F5BD17E29; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KBHcfBDTdVKA; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E836FD16A58; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BDFCCD17E29 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dKFuzU+vyMp7 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail11.bluewin.ch (mail11.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3791AD16A58 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:53:03 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.77.244.54] Epoch[1277470382] Received: from [83.77.244.54] ([83.77.244.54:4339] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail11.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id C8/01-03219-DA6A42C4; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:02 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:52:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100625-0, 06/25/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 2468 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=g6FZtBZ5sa7Gp7zlOIkA:9 a=7eYKeinwFO_xft46gX8A:7 a=Raiug8F35PRq1aZYUc-DO2odFnkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=vei29zOp09EykcCy:21 a=qUgpHAOjozzE8KKd:21 In message <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> Jim Nagel wrote: > my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) > is with the printer at last. i've just had a report back (groan) > saying a hardcopy laserproof is on its way to me by post: > We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking > software has identified that many of the illustrations in > the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This > will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to > your attention. > does an OPro applet exists that would go through my file and report > (perhaps in list form) the resolution of pictures? > there must be a couple of hundred of them, and i can't bear the > prospect of checking them all manually. I do not believe such an applet exists at present. But.... Presuming you have all the pictures as jpegs's in a "Pictures" directory there is an easy way to insure all pictures are at 300dpi before importing them to the OP document. For this you need !Jsize. It lets you drag jpeg selections for batch writing of new density settings. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:04 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSAIn-03FGPo-02-CZW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSAIn-03FGPo-02-CZW; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:54:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSAIn-03FGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:54:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSAIj-0006lx-I0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:54:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56CF9D17F86; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FXe9seGvxhTN; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C11CD17F38; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FD19D17F4D for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ehYL5J3z2I+L for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D42DCD17F55 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PEsEIX021443; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:54:14 +0100 Received: from c2d (cpc2-swin1-0-0-cust672.sol2.cable.ntl.com [81.109.86.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PEsD7N021432; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:54:14 +0100 Message-ID: <780443504BB34256BF762CD8C9A30776@c2d> From: "Gerald Chat" To: References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:54:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-archive-position: 2469 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gerald.chat@abacusline.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Dp4gdM0Y-gYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mCN9PHifOgXNo-q7JhQA:9 a=k-aLbVwqX5TsX6xpq-QA:7 a=0qk8jKQYgVaAxh3g3eAsMXnHAI0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=bjOdENzbEKShZA6x:21 a=zmYBcTK3xT3snvpd:21 On Friday, June 25, 2010 12:26 PM, Jim Nagel wrote: > my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) > is with the printer at last. i've just had a report back (groan) > saying a hardcopy laserproof is on its way to me by post: > > We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking > software has identified that many of the illustrations in > the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This > will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to > your attention. Is there any chance that your publisher could give you the list of 'defective' pictures in a form that you can identify easily (eg file names)? There are many ways of increasing the 'dpi settings' and I have no doubt that if you gave me access (eg a URL where I could find them) to all the pictures you want 'improving', then I could do that as one huge batch using software I have here. Alternatively if you gave me access to all the pictures (I guess that the total is less than 0.8 GB so you could send me a CD) I would batch process the 200 (or so) such that every single one of them returned 300 dpi (or a bit more if you wanted that) to the interrogating software (I guess it checks the eXif data). Then 'all' you would have to do would be to relink them all somehow back into the (no doubt huge) OvPro document. If I can help you get this Albatross from around your neck then it is to my personal advantage because then you'll be able to get back to publishing that superb magazine called Archive! I am not familiar enough with OvPro to do anything really clever (such as 're-linking' in a batch type way) but I can do 'clever things' with pictures (sometimes). Gerald To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:05 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSAlW-23sVbs-03-C6n.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSAlW-23sVbs-03-C6n; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:24:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSAlW-23sVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:24:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSAlV-0007fq-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:24:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE34FD18080; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LYk-XFtWEsmg; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E99F1D18066; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6AABD1804A for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9zVaoBjyXuUM for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5CC7ED1806C for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArkGAINmJExUXeb0/2dsb2JhbACTD4wxccF3gluCRgQ Received: from outmx03.plus.net ([84.93.230.244]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2010 16:24:08 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OSAlD-0006cD-RC for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:24:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:24:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures Message-ID: <512cf85a72chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <780443504BB34256BF762CD8C9A30776@c2d> References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <780443504BB34256BF762CD8C9A30776@c2d> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2470 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Ge4049RtAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=zDhPH19IzdbJCzP4M2MA:9 a=jfvXyp7EsM_Ogv2_wWoA:7 a=k3AsQKCEefGvoX_e8pmv-4ooEccA:4 a=r4uoTI9GibQA:10 a=QDA0rpGc6i5UZiGz:21 a=r0HHFMNdpMKwaOE9:21 In article <780443504BB34256BF762CD8C9A30776@c2d>, Gerald Chat wrote: > Is there any chance that your publisher could give you the list of > 'defective' pictures in a form that you can identify easily (eg > file names)? > There are many ways of increasing the 'dpi settings' and I have no > doubt that if you gave me access (eg a URL where I could find > them) to all the pictures you want 'improving', then I could do > that as one huge batch using software I have here. > Alternatively if you gave me access to all the pictures (I guess > that the total is less than 0.8 GB so you could send me a CD) I > would batch process the 200 (or so) such that every single one of > them returned 300 dpi (or a bit more if you wanted that) to the > interrogating software (I guess it checks the eXif data). Then > 'all' you would have to do would be to relink them all somehow > back into the (no doubt huge) OvPro document. I think we need more information on how the images have been treated in the document and how the printer has determined the final dpi value. If the print process is using the dpi value embedded in the image, then simply changing the dpi in the jpeg will result in the image size on the page changing. Have the images been scaled in OPro? When OPro scales an image it does not do anything to the dpi value embedded in the image, but the 'effective' dpi value is changed during the rendering process (screen or printer). Thus an image that is nominally 90 dpi is printed at 300 dpi if scaled by a factor of 30%. One assumes the final output for the printer is a PDF file. How does OPro scale a jpeg when outputting to PS/PDF, and how would the print process 'see' the final dpi value? -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSBCw-2GdVbs-04-BfN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSBCw-2GdVbs-04-BfN; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:52:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSBCw-2GdVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:52:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSBCq-0003dt-MQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:52:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 400A2D18036; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id swalj0oRmlNK; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FC52D12000; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F79AD11FE4 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zD7k538rLNM7 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4797D12000 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PFqHMb030564; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:52:18 +0100 Received: from c2d (cpc2-swin1-0-0-cust672.sol2.cable.ntl.com [81.109.86.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PFqHmd030547; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:52:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Gerald Chat" To: References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:52:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-archive-position: 2471 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gerald.chat@abacusline.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Dp4gdM0Y-gYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mX6z4Pfo-J-sMdTeQFwA:9 a=vHLLxV4pyriYumkjZMcA:7 a=EOXL3GQAglwTmWkgiJhVSOsY76wA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=Nm7fIxvs0oE6Dp5v:21 a=Qaozn1oeXZ2qBpNF:21 On Friday, June 25, 2010 12:26 PM, Jim Nagel wrote: > my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) > is with the printer at last. i've just had a report back (groan) > saying a hardcopy laserproof is on its way to me by post: > > We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking > software has identified that many of the illustrations in > the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This > will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to > your attention. It occurs to me that you have sent a PDF and not an OvPro file to your printer? (Yes. That's a question.) If so then it may be that all you need to do is to recreate the PDF file from the OvPro file but with a 300 DPI setting for your pictures. For example, I use Acrobat Distiller (to distil a PD file) and my default setting is 150 dpi for images but this can be altered very easily. Perhaps you can tell us a bit more about what you've done and how. For example did you use RISC OS or Windows? Did you Print to PDF from RISC OS or Windows? Do you know exactly what options you have (with regards DPI) when printing the PDF? For example: When I Print to PDF (from Windows) for general use this 'Printer' creates a PDF using my Adobe Distiller with the settings I have created under the name 'Gerald'. However, there are other settings which I can switch to including a setting called "High Quality" which, by default, is 300 dpi. This all leads me to believe that your images (before the creation of the PDF) are probably of a high enough resolution but that your 'problem' lies with the manner in which you have created the PDF (viz using a lower than 300 dpi). Anyway, please let us know what software you use to do what to the OvPro document before it goes to the printer. Gerald To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSBGn-29e000-05-BbW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSBGn-29e000-05-BbW; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:56:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSBGn-29e000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:56:45 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSBGk-0001eD-DA for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:56:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 07B88D18144; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O8fikv7Rd2AF; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4AD6D17FE4; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0FC8D17FEF for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g6U3McxTyVmF for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B709D17FE4 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (77-21-15-149-dynip.superkabel.de [77.21.15.149]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MRSY4-1Od8Jt3l3A-00Shij; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:42:42 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures To: From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:42:29 +0200 Message-ID: <8009fa2c51.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <780443504BB34256BF762CD8C9A30776@c2d> <512cf85a72chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <512cf85a72chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ZhyydSvx0iWzHq4XXDur2Yrz2tBPvGNqJa8r z0xRPEoM3fkx6WUlr3GtagWk/oDKdG3jy7EUvbItWjaSl2pLje agI4DXXGwylfQMIujjDrA== X-archive-position: 2472 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Gv2hNDkM02UA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=PuSXEM5ouhEm06XJuXsA:9 a=Tj9vSaP10jiV6kRdRCMA:7 a=tr0S82T93rd1Dq3SiJi_ZRlFVJcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <512cf85a72chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> Chris Johnson wrote: > One assumes the final output for the printer is a PDF file. How does > OPro scale a jpeg when outputting to PS/PDF, and how would the print > process 'see' the final dpi value? PS/PDF does not care about the resolution info in the JPEG. The only difference the internal resolution setting makes is to the zoom value you can see in OP. 100% zoom in the OP frame corresponds to the JPEG's internally set resolution. So, changing the resolution of all JPEGs to a fixed value, e.g., 300dpi does help a bit when using them in OP, but it is irrelevant as far as the actual printing process goes. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:12 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSDI3-1KMknw-06-9aG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSDI3-1KMknw-06-9aG; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSDI3-1KMknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSDI2-0001Kn-Gu for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7534BD17FE7; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dz+EIgRAdyJf; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F204D17F52; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 744F2D17F65 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V1KUom5DehjI for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 27E73D17F52 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.198.68]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PI5o6G030444 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:05:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:56:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2473 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=yF5mSfgQxC1nbb8dn2EA:9 a=e720ua8sNsWvKaSljxkA:7 a=4QFIyADL5tHJoAbByB8BwIh5AHgA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=cemrxvW4ZkF9_iWz:21 a=66wC7G_wlIu4GNur:21 In article <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > What exactly is the "Forget" button for, if it doesn't forget the > > password? > Forget the archive? Sorry Chris, I don't understand that, It doesn't. Ctrl drop an archive on SparkFS Click DES and enter password, click Return. Archive can now be opened for Read/Write. Click "Forget" SFS window vanishes and the archive filer window closes. Now just double click the archive. It opens. And the secret file within can again be opened, Read or Written to. So the archive has not been forgotten. Even quitting SFS after the "Forget" doesn't make any difference. Again double click the archive and it opens and the contents can be Read or Written to. Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSDIC-0Hrknw-04-9a7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:13 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSDIC-0Hrknw-04-9a7; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSDIC-0Hrknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSDI6-0001lC-Po for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74C58D17FF8; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RfnOVyXzYLky; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 229C6D17F6C; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F202CD17FB6 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bINJxZtC9CFm for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 933E9D17F6C for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([91.84.109.28]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PI5s3b030460 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:05:54 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:05:50 +0100 Message-ID: <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> In-Reply-To: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2474 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=nORIoGPyJ5QaycZhRV4A:9 a=e-UhmHD50YBJbTA8NKwA:7 a=7U4RzkLSzrzj70hRjLoXd79sS4EA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=-Tcdqg2YzNvtDlUZ:21 a=gdb2b198wigR_4Uu:21 In message <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> "Doug Thompson" wrote: > Simply Create a CSV file of your dates from a spreadsheet using the date > function to calculate your dates from your base date. The CSV file needs to > contain enough records to meet your needs. In this case the records would > all be the same data, created using the $ copy option. Put mail merge tags > in your document as appropriate and then simply mail merge. I'm sure you > could experiment with times as well. > Hope this is of use and not teaching granny to suck. That's quite neat. So each line has one entry for each possible date, and there are enough lines for the number of date references. Lots more wouldn't matter. Obviously I need to make the base date one day before the earliest date, so day+1 becomes [merge 1], day2 = [merge 2] etc The downside, which I didn't mention, is that I would quite like to be able to mail-merge other things into similar documents, although not the pamphlet. I have never found a way to mail-merge two CSV files into one document. (I do have a VERY complex spreadsheet to produce the combined CSV in one case.) > Doug > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Adams" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40 PM > Subject: [softwarelist] Anyone into writing applets? >> I've got an application which seems to require a new applet - correct >> me please if one already exists. >> >> Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the >> run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a >> constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. >> >> The first date in the calendar might therefore be d-7 i.e. a week >> before the reference date, and the last might be d+21, 3 weeks after >> the reference. >> >> It would be great if I could embed tags in the document for, say d-7, >> set up the reference date in some other form of tag, and have the >> printed document, and ideally the displayed document, embed the >> resulting date. A similar model to mail-merge would work. >> >> Of course there is then the issue of format - 24th June, 24Jun2010, >> Thu 24 June, 24/6/10, Thursday 24th etc. >> >> (I would guess that most of the logic, and a lot of the code, could >> also deal with h-hour to put times in. That's not so important to me - >> yet...) >> >> Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I >> haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is >> possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the >> application. How are tags dealt with? >> >> >> -- >> Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire >> alan@adamshome.org.uk >> http://www.nckc.org.uk/ >> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:13 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSDIK-0IQknw-04-9Zz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:13 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSDIK-0IQknw-04-9Zz; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSDIK-0IQknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSDIH-0004KT-70 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:06:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0773D18019; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fcTp5d-G5ixq; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0056AD17FB9; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0450D17FC4 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYpTqWcpJvll for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79E11D17FB9 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([82.153.198.68]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PI5o6I030444 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:05:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:58:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: <512d06884cdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2475 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jMYiMItOGI6dNiiIwl0A:9 a=MsRYyMShA821AY0GYx4A:7 a=VT9THhSG-6iutwxGFgtQ1qdANUEA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=aKIYHkLIsYqWS-lm:21 a=MGiiOKjScidch5p5:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes > writes > >SparkFS 1.42 on a SARPC RO 6.20 > > > >With a DES and password secured archive, why does the "Forget" button > >not do what it says? > > > >What exactly is the "Forget" button for, if it doesn't forget the > >password? > Good point, 'forget' removes the archive from SparkFS memory, but I > forgot to remove the password information. It would be a good idea to do > that. See my reply to Chris, it doesn't. And yes it would be a very good security idea if both the archive and the password were excised. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:15 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSEAg-0m4GPo-05-8hd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSEAg-0m4GPo-05-8hd; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:02:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSEAg-0m4GPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:02:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSEAb-0005uM-Eb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:02:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F1E7D17F13; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BklItSmZLbix; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E383BD17EA3; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C01C2D17EA8 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bqm3fwZasWiJ for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BDD6AD17EA3 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:02:13 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoYFAH+aJExUXeb6/2dsb2JhbACTEIwxccJMhSEE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2010 20:02:08 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OSEAC-0004KH-Ct for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:02:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:01:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: <512d0c4826chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2476 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=akQViO6R8EkwY62EpH8A:9 a=ngLFS6XjwHyjauwjy4gA:7 a=uRPB9GJiTg4KGsw6NYDhXPOmxdgA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=xVFKImWfqHFIz8EI:21 a=lXD955g6sM74-K9u:21 In article <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Click "Forget" > SFS window vanishes and the archive filer window closes. > Now just double click the archive. > It opens. > And the secret file within can again be opened, Read or Written to. > So the archive has not been forgotten. Go to the iconbar menu and follow archive. It gives a list of all the archives, the details of which SFS is keeping tabs on in its memory. Click on one and then click on 'Forget' in the dialogue that opens. Go back to the list of archives and you will see it is no longer there. SparkFS has removed it from its list of known archives. Double clicking on the archive makes SparkFS open it again, so it is once again listed. This is what SparkFS does when you double click on an archive, it opens the archive and loads its details into memory. What SparkFS is not doing, as David pointed out, is asking for the pw once again, since a record of that still exists in SparkFS, it not having been deleted when the other archive details were deleted. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:15 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSEBp-1z1000-01-8gU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSEBp-1z1000-01-8gU; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:03:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSEBp-1z1000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:03:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSEBk-0000TZ-PS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:03:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A1A0D17F0F; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZIkYWW5mYDad; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB38FD17F08; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85E2DD17F0F for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4qHREX6MD8Nj for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14B20D17F08 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:03:26 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,482,1272841200"; d="scan'208";a="205768572" Received: from unknown (HELO latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk) ([91.84.211.154]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2010 20:03:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [192.168.0.100]) by latrigg.stevefryatt.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5A525A001 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:03:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:03:14 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.64.1.3226 (Qt/4.5.0) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2477 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=VphdPIyG4kEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0VSFqODQbjks20zVf54A:9 a=5p-yb5XM_wcQWRdd5IsA:7 a=HUuwlemUUbl9HDOZ5EOu2gyp2_IA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=NcCGjeUft3DzDRh1:21 a=v_ZKFicOArQDBGoD:21 On 25 Jun, Dave Symes wrote in message <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk>: > Ctrl drop an archive on SparkFS Click DES and enter password, click > Return. > > Archive can now be opened for Read/Write. > > Click "Forget" SFS window vanishes and the archive filer window closes. > > Now just double click the archive. It opens. Of course: RISC OS just loads the file back into SparkFS again. And, as David says, SFS doesn't forget the password so it loads immediately. AIUI Forget just frees up the memory that SFS was using to remember the archive's details. This may mean that you can't directly access files inside it any more, but double-clicking the original archive will always reload it as that has nothing to do with SFS. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSESo-2ahGPo-07-Gw1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSESo-2ahGPo-07-Gw1; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:21:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSESo-2ahGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:21:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSESd-0003MZ-SD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:21:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4D6BED17EC3; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:21:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vWtMcMdgdl7w; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3AF4CD17BF8; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:20:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13A73D17D19 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:20:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fdsXgehGYTbX for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f51.google.com (mail-ww0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A07E5D17BF8 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so225745wwb.10 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.155.9 with SMTP id q9mr990008wbw.24.1277493653355; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DougLaptop (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y31sm61632582wby.16.2010.06.25.12.20.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([82.27.218.36]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:20:52 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 82.27.218.36 Message-ID: <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> From: "Doug Thompson" To: References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:20:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 X-archive-position: 2478 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dougal99@virginmedia.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=tKAsXRkRUu4A:10 a=Na5Yms2_1osA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=Oo_UOjCu1m1eqO7kcwYA:9 a=MCNuWsQ6j0RCZ0pdTHAA:7 a=A3TaZAZ_10prfriQ6KGTdsalnikA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=lEXPOrmwim7EuAmo:21 a=uiHlRu8Op8uaS3un:21 I got a trifle confused with my csv contents. If you are just adding dates then the CSV file need only contain one record ie all the dates required separated by commas. You then print as many copies as you need. However, if you wish to add different data to each copy as well as the dates then you would require the appropriate number of records, duplicating data as required. You don't need to alter the base date from that required, the formula [base date cell]+n will give the required dates. Merging two csv files ought to be possible in a spreadsheet by loading the first file into the spreadsheet and then pasting a copy of the second csv file to the right of the first. Mail merge can cope with the tags entered in the target document out of sequence. Hope this helps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Adams" To: Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:05 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? > In message <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> > "Doug Thompson" wrote: > >> Simply Create a CSV file of your dates from a spreadsheet using the date >> function to calculate your dates from your base date. The CSV file needs >> to >> contain enough records to meet your needs. In this case the records would >> all be the same data, created using the $ copy option. Put mail merge >> tags >> in your document as appropriate and then simply mail merge. I'm sure you >> could experiment with times as well. > >> Hope this is of use and not teaching granny to suck. > > That's quite neat. So each line has one entry for each possible date, > and there are enough lines for the number of date references. Lots > more wouldn't matter. > > Obviously I need to make the base date one day before the earliest > date, so day+1 becomes [merge 1], day2 = [merge 2] etc > > The downside, which I didn't mention, is that I would quite like to be > able to mail-merge other things into similar documents, although not > the pamphlet. I have never found a way to mail-merge two CSV files > into one document. (I do have a VERY complex spreadsheet to produce > the combined CSV in one case.) > > >> Doug >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan Adams" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40 PM >> Subject: [softwarelist] Anyone into writing applets? > > >>> I've got an application which seems to require a new applet - correct >>> me please if one already exists. >>> >>> Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the >>> run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a >>> constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. >>> >>> The first date in the calendar might therefore be d-7 i.e. a week >>> before the reference date, and the last might be d+21, 3 weeks after >>> the reference. >>> >>> It would be great if I could embed tags in the document for, say d-7, >>> set up the reference date in some other form of tag, and have the >>> printed document, and ideally the displayed document, embed the >>> resulting date. A similar model to mail-merge would work. >>> >>> Of course there is then the issue of format - 24th June, 24Jun2010, >>> Thu 24 June, 24/6/10, Thursday 24th etc. >>> >>> (I would guess that most of the logic, and a lot of the code, could >>> also deal with h-hour to put times in. That's not so important to me - >>> yet...) >>> >>> Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I >>> haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is >>> possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the >>> application. How are tags dealt with? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire >>> alan@adamshome.org.uk >>> http://www.nckc.org.uk/ >>> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > >> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > > > -- > Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire > alan@adamshome.org.uk > http://www.nckc.org.uk/ > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:19 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSEef-4TPknw-04-GkA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSEef-4TPknw-04-GkA; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:33:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSEef-4TPknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:33:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSEeb-0003Sl-37 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:33:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 08533D17F82; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLh+LRG3yioJ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C8A8D17ECB; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6CACD17ECD for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EkhljTCYQv3Y for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C6A5D17ECB for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iyonix.laptop.adamshome.org.uk ([91.84.109.28]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PJXDPD004526 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:33:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: <11250f2d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> In-Reply-To: <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2479 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan@adamshome.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Kc0a6QvqAAAA:8 a=-YwKYpD09eY2qULNkCgA:9 a=hB0DCLFaXxSuBX-vNowA:7 a=Q1RapBJfFMcWfKDEfZyW8YF3DHcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=bZE9y_uG1snJ4k5Y:21 a=B6e8hN6-MnT2Vi6d:21 In message <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> "Doug Thompson" wrote: > I got a trifle confused with my csv contents. If you are just adding dates > then the CSV file need only contain one record ie all the dates required > separated by commas. You then print as many copies as you need. However, if > you wish to add different data to each copy as well as the dates then you > would require the appropriate number of records, duplicating data as > required. > You don't need to alter the base date from that required, the formula [base > date cell]+n will give the required dates. > Merging two csv files ought to be possible in a spreadsheet by loading the > first file into the spreadsheet and then pasting a copy of the second csv > file to the right of the first. Mail merge can cope with the tags entered in > the target document out of sequence. > Hope this helps It does, in that it's alerted me to a problem. I print about 100 copies of this, using the Print Sheet option, because it's a pamphlet. For mailmerge to work I need to print using the mailmerge tool, but I don't think I can print single sheets that way, only ranges of pages. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Adams" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:05 PM > Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? >> In message <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> >> "Doug Thompson" wrote: >> >>> Simply Create a CSV file of your dates from a spreadsheet using the date >>> function to calculate your dates from your base date. The CSV file needs >>> to >>> contain enough records to meet your needs. In this case the records would >>> all be the same data, created using the $ copy option. Put mail merge >>> tags >>> in your document as appropriate and then simply mail merge. I'm sure you >>> could experiment with times as well. >> >>> Hope this is of use and not teaching granny to suck. >> >> That's quite neat. So each line has one entry for each possible date, >> and there are enough lines for the number of date references. Lots >> more wouldn't matter. >> >> Obviously I need to make the base date one day before the earliest >> date, so day+1 becomes [merge 1], day2 = [merge 2] etc >> >> The downside, which I didn't mention, is that I would quite like to be >> able to mail-merge other things into similar documents, although not >> the pamphlet. I have never found a way to mail-merge two CSV files >> into one document. (I do have a VERY complex spreadsheet to produce >> the combined CSV in one case.) >> >> >>> Doug >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alan Adams" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:40 PM >>> Subject: [softwarelist] Anyone into writing applets? >> >> >>>> I've got an application which seems to require a new applet - correct >>>> me please if one already exists. >>>> >>>> Each year I produce a 24-page handbook for a 2-week event, and the >>>> run-up period. The booklet is littered with dates, which are all a >>>> constant offset from a standard date - let's call it d-day. >>>> >>>> The first date in the calendar might therefore be d-7 i.e. a week >>>> before the reference date, and the last might be d+21, 3 weeks after >>>> the reference. >>>> >>>> It would be great if I could embed tags in the document for, say d-7, >>>> set up the reference date in some other form of tag, and have the >>>> printed document, and ideally the displayed document, embed the >>>> resulting date. A similar model to mail-merge would work. >>>> >>>> Of course there is then the issue of format - 24th June, 24Jun2010, >>>> Thu 24 June, 24/6/10, Thursday 24th etc. >>>> >>>> (I would guess that most of the logic, and a lot of the code, could >>>> also deal with h-hour to put times in. That's not so important to me - >>>> yet...) >>>> >>>> Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I >>>> haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is >>>> possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the >>>> application. How are tags dealt with? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire >>>> alan@adamshome.org.uk >>>> http://www.nckc.org.uk/ >>>> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >>>> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling >> >>> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling >> >> >> -- >> Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire >> alan@adamshome.org.uk >> http://www.nckc.org.uk/ >> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: >> http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan@adamshome.org.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:20 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSEpc-3wz000-01-GZD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSEpc-3wz000-01-GZD; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:44:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSEpc-3wz000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:44:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSEpZ-0005GP-9V for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:44:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C11AD17C5F; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1072oWH7AUEA; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9079FD16DFB; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B1D9D16E00 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ij3nSIYY1xRE for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1CE4BD16DFB for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom ([91.84.114.194]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5PJiZOm005375 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:44:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:44:16 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS Message-ID: <512d102c4bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <512d0c4826chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> <512d0c4826chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.20) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2480 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=GpqR7pShGHeELOrEDAcA:9 a=b2cwOxGNBoHZq_jx-EwA:7 a=9R8hosK0y06uBemd2bUlfHJRdTMA:4 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=5JMwW4IN8HsQR-19:21 a=JBP9jWAjKNn04wZp:21 In article <512d0c4826chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > Click "Forget" > > SFS window vanishes and the archive filer window closes. > > Now just double click the archive. > > It opens. > > And the secret file within can again be opened, Read or Written to. > > So the archive has not been forgotten. > Go to the iconbar menu and follow archive. It gives a list of all the > archives, the details of which SFS is keeping tabs on in its memory. > Click on one and then click on 'Forget' in the dialogue that opens. > Go back to the list of archives and you will see it is no longer > there. SparkFS has removed it from its list of known archives. > Double clicking on the archive makes SparkFS open it again, so it is > once again listed. This is what SparkFS does when you double click on > an archive, it opens the archive and loads its details into memory. > What SparkFS is not doing, as David pointed out, is asking for the pw > once again, since a record of that still exists in SparkFS, it not > having been deleted when the other archive details were deleted. Grief! I've been using SparkFS with DES encryption and password protected files for years to contain my very personal stuff, Card numbers, passwords etc... thinking it was really secure. (In some respects it is) But... How wrong was I with regard to this aspect of SFS. However there is a way. When finished. Manually delete the password. Click the "None" encryption button. Press Return. Thereafter, until re-Ctrl dropped and set, it is not readable. (Usual error message) Phew! Dave -- Dave Triffid To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Jun 26 20:20:22 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSFxR-4WIVbs-06-FRO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:20:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSFxR-4WIVbs-06-FRO; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:57:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSFxR-4WIVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:57:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSFxO-0004GS-2O for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:57:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8DB5BD17FE7; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:57:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UJfbDDSvAT5b; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7A615D16704; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AC44D17D4C for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mJddJaFs+W19 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f51.google.com (mail-ww0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFDE3D16704 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so275157wwb.10 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.134 with SMTP id a6mr1084895wbu.14.1277499403971; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DougLaptop (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b17sm66140289wbd.13.2010.06.25.13.56.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([82.27.218.36]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:56:43 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 82.27.218.36 Message-ID: From: "Doug Thompson" To: References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> <11250f2d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <11250f2d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:56:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 X-archive-position: 2481 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dougal99@virginmedia.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=tKAsXRkRUu4A:10 a=Na5Yms2_1osA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=yfltKhqatKDRYvj6KroA:9 a=2uAbIyzyqLyNJAuegwoA:7 a=CyVxtUUUP53etcvkR3GxMqMIGb8A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=v_GQO7TTaJS8yhJX:21 a=OhLcFZODULHQ21Ru:21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Adams" To: Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? > In message <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> > "Doug Thompson" wrote: > >> I got a trifle confused with my csv contents. If you are just adding >> dates >> then the CSV file need only contain one record ie all the dates required >> separated by commas. You then print as many copies as you need. However, >> if >> you wish to add different data to each copy as well as the dates then you >> would require the appropriate number of records, duplicating data as >> required. > >> You don't need to alter the base date from that required, the formula >> [base >> date cell]+n will give the required dates. > >> Merging two csv files ought to be possible in a spreadsheet by loading >> the >> first file into the spreadsheet and then pasting a copy of the second csv >> file to the right of the first. Mail merge can cope with the tags entered >> in >> the target document out of sequence. > >> Hope this helps > > It does, in that it's alerted me to a problem. > > I print about 100 copies of this, using the Print Sheet option, > because it's a pamphlet. For mailmerge to work I need to print using > the mailmerge tool, but I don't think I can print single sheets that > way, only ranges of pages. > I think the use of the FIX option on mail merge may help, but only if you are using a 1 record CSV file. I only became awareof this reading the manual. Something I very rarely do! Basically read in the record, fix it and then go to Print Sheet. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 11:35:08 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSp8m-1YnGPo-05-EM7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:35:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSp8m-1YnGPo-05-EM7; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:31:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSp8m-1YnGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:31:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSp8k-0003Xt-Ep for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:31:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 224BFD17C6A; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:31:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQZz5RJmlq0x; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1675F2D7E7A; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:30:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D9B8A2D7FC8 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:30:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FXGU-JXrxA9w for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9B4942D7E7A for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSp8R-0000aJ-ny for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:30:47 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:29:46 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2482 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=rZ_Q_wqii8cYD4HgFHMA:9 a=ucFDoO3jQbH4HdWIQ7QA:7 a=l_UVx0gKkZCzD0M_lBAzbHHAnlcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=FppYWoOYm2frEd2f:21 a=P_RKq3xYymDzjL5J:21 In message , Steve Fryatt writes >On 25 Jun, Dave Symes wrote in message > <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk>: > >> Ctrl drop an archive on SparkFS Click DES and enter password, click >> Return. >> >> Archive can now be opened for Read/Write. >> >> Click "Forget" SFS window vanishes and the archive filer window closes. >> >> Now just double click the archive. It opens. The other thing is that entering the password or not, never stops you opening an archive, it only stops you getting files out of the archive. An archive can contain a mix of encrypted and plain files. This has caused a lot of confusion over the years. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 11:50:07 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSpEd-2k6GPo-02-EGG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:50:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSpEd-2k6GPo-02-EGG; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:37:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSpEd-2k6GPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:37:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSpEb-0003um-LC for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:37:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A8ABD17DDC; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:37:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id od7U6rbVqQfq; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 589D82D7E7A; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A542D17CB2 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lz1uhrjKDkRA for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DACEC2D7E7A for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSpEJ-0001CD-iY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:36:51 +0000 Message-ID: <$iZVxAC2lyJMFwHV@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:35:34 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=v7O9By2R6WvChvITsh8A:9 a=hdvpe4fkMuSyacsk6ZUA:7 a=S0OJ6Yu_JjYR5_QTJ31jUU4PLFgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=kbEM_nCCSyz6Bf3s:21 a=Y4tNXFp1Uq7ddQ2z:21 In message <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel writes >my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) > We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking > software has identified that many of the illustrations in > the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This > will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to > your attention. Presumably this is a matter of absolutes, the pre-press software looks at how many pixels the image it receives has and how large an area those pixels are painted over and on that basis decides if the resolution is high enough or not. I don't think there is an applet to do the work. Various things come close. For example the picture info box shows you what the final resolution of images is. There is a pre-press applet which could be extended. Does your print shop's program not give a list of the illustrations that are problematical? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 12:35:06 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSpyS-1FM000-07-DWR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:35:06 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSpyS-1FM000-07-DWR; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:24:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSpyS-1FM000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:24:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSpyP-0007js-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:24:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF7FCD17624; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E1QrUxm91hcv; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EAB85D155B1; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC87FD16F8B for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nUYlqYrH9ylV for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84B61D155B1 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSpy7-00005d-oW for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:24:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:22:28 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> <60377D73E1B3432388E0FB763E792E05@DougLaptop> <11250f2d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2484 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ihXiNfFFvFY2SGmxa5gA:9 a=Fil_adjXuub75YxgmcIA:7 a=3nsqrZYkbk0Kbk-uVQH-lblofvIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 a=ZeI3fBoAe0OH95pp:21 a=3jfui_hf-VgM6hsu:21 In message , Doug Thompson writes >I think the use of the FIX option on mail merge may help, but only if >you are using a 1 record CSV file. I only became awareof this reading >the manual. Something I very rarely do! Basically read in the record, >fix it and then go to Print Sheet. Well, yes use fix, and you can step through the CSV file until you get to the record you need to 'fix'. My feeling is that there is nothing print sheet can do which you can't achieve by setting up a range of pages to print (a range of pages would work with mail merge), working out the pages might take some effort. Range of pages will take something like 2,3,15,16 as the pages to print on both sides of one sheet of paper. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 12:35:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSq0x-3h4knw-08-DTw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:35:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSq0x-3h4knw-08-DTw; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSq0x-3h4knw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSq0v-00032c-Ew for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30DDAD17C1B; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:27:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vh9Tx-Tjfdbz; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75799D17624; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:26:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5479CD1766C for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:26:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vXChGK0yuqsX for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EDA8D17624 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSq0f-0001da-ng for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:26:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:25:33 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS References: <512ccdd194dave@triffid.co.uk> <512cd5c0e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d06503ddave@triffid.co.uk> <512d0c4826chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512d102c4bdave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <512d102c4bdave@triffid.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2485 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=wbKXeunVgZ0A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7bj9wWKFH6n4U3uCaJYA:9 a=Pn4DZ3yyRXzEf_O830cA:7 a=icNLNeZPj9VyZjp_RROhi7jOhnUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=bEknjm71IQHX6D4V:21 a=tOkWb4z0-QcjbFZU:21 In message <512d102c4bdave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes writes >I've been using SparkFS with DES encryption and password protected files >for years to contain my very personal stuff, Card numbers, passwords >etc... thinking it was really secure. (In some respects it is) >But... >How wrong was I with regard to this aspect of SFS. Bear in mind that RISC OS is (unlike Windows) not designed to be secure, for example it does not delete the contents of used memory - i.e. a program uses memory and eventually gives it back to RISC OS and RISC OS does not zero the memory before letting another program use it. For all Windows being designed to be secure, I doubt that it is. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 12:35:34 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSq3b-4e5000-01-DRI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:35:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSq3b-4e5000-01-DRI; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:29:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSq3b-4e5000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:29:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSq3X-0006OF-Hd for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:29:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4C06D17C3E; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-HGx9mHai95; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A439FD16FAC; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84A95D16F8B for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MX02rMkeqpHz for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4BE72D156EC for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSq3G-0002i3-n5 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:29:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:28:17 +0100 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Vanishing text (Peter Jennings) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2486 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=51MEpMiNnmoA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=u3o-MyHKmvUs5Py73CoA:7 a=N0BlCD_nAzutAlJ1Ro7so3EY0QAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jvyDa2V1YNg5ZfbI:21 a=7fgB4IU1jLMdk7fl:21 Hi, The following was sent by Peter Jennings but was bounced because it was sent from an email address not subscribed to the list: ===================================================== I am having an odd problem with Ovation Pro (2.92) and Windows=20 7 with documents more than a page long. =20 When I drag the first=20 page up to read the second one all the text on page one disappears=2C line by line. It still exists as I can print from it! Another problem=2C even=20 when the text is visible=2C is that I am unable to select any of it. Anyone else had this happen? =20 Peter Jennings ====================================================== No idea. My first move would be to save as DDL and reload in case the document is corrupt. Sounds like the bounding box of the text is wrong, that might be due to a funny font. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 12:50:01 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSqHb-2VtVbs-06-DDI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:50:01 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSqHb-2VtVbs-06-DDI; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:44:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSqHb-2VtVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:44:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSqHZ-00044n-8w for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:44:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0B1D6D17665; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BGxWfE0IU4Mm; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2ED18D174DD; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0EA51D17589 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5UVj6epfC+uF for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCF1CD174DD for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSqH2-0004sX-da for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:43:59 +0000 Message-ID: <5S$UddGtkzJMFw1C@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:42:37 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? References: <5B947B5EA2FB46BE8AA51F8EB47FBDA3@DougLaptop> <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2487 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=UxzpYsAppkyCGdvVxeMA:7 a=Fp1nN1MyDpxMEfZGDybUHeE_8xMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=sKouLdsbI1gKcsbg:21 a=ZVoWjEXq2xfq0Qlv:21 In message <9329072d51.Alan.Adams@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams writes >The downside, which I didn't mention, is that I would quite like to be >able to mail-merge other things into similar documents, although not >the pamphlet. I have never found a way to mail-merge two CSV files >into one document. (I do have a VERY complex spreadsheet to produce >the combined CSV in one case.) There is the concept of mail merge 'fields', look at the manual there are a number of examples of doing things with mail merge, bingo tickets, raffle tickets, photos. If you had to, these would give you the ability to merge two CSV files, but they also give you other ways to solve the problem. The other thing is to write something that merges two CSV files into one. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 19:50:14 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSwj1-0KwVbs-03-FIO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:50:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSwj1-0KwVbs-03-FIO; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:37:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSwj1-0KwVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:37:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSwix-0002At-IQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C430D1783D; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JkM-r7Q5pMgC; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70C17D177D7; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3938CD177D0 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wwkFh0LRP2P0 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD2F7D17614 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSwid-0005PL-Nl for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:36:40 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:29:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <$iZVxAC2lyJMFwHV@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <$iZVxAC2lyJMFwHV@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2488 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=6hbegqhO4cUeWz4lur4A:9 a=Gy_jetIf7OE0G5ct6C8A:7 a=HAzykjC1bfs7KNQQtGUCf70GOWIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=pyeY8hsiQ3ih7Q-W:21 a=dPEsrm5suXKy52Ng:21 In message <$iZVxAC2lyJMFwHV@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > In message <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel > writes >>my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) >> We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking >> software has identified that many of the illustrations in >> the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This >> will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to >> your attention. > Presumably this is a matter of absolutes, the pre-press software looks > at how many pixels the image it receives has and how large an area those > pixels are painted over and on that basis decides if the resolution is > high enough or not. > I don't think there is an applet to do the work. Various things come > close. For example the picture info box shows you what the final > resolution of images is. There is a pre-press applet which could be > extended. This is something I have to do regularly with OPro, as I use it to prepare books that are often photo-heavy. I would like to produce an applet(s) to perform a number of tasks on images within a document, such as reporting dpi, reporting proxy and reference status etc. I've discussed this in the distant past with you David and we talked about a set of functions for bouncing through the objects within a document and being able to read/write the object data as DDL strings. Did you ever look any further at implementing any of these features? > Does your print shop's program not give a list of the illustrations that > are problematical? If a PDF file is created then Acrobat's pre-flight functions can be used to list images lower than a certain resolution and a list is >>my albatross book (which i've previously moaned about in Archive etc) >> We need to make you aware that our Pre-Press checking >> software has identified that many of the illustrations in >> the book are below the recommend resolution of 300 dpi. This >> will not be apparent on the proof, but I need to draw it to >> your attention. > Presumably this is a matter of absolutes, the pre-press software looks > at how many pixels the image it receives has and how large an area those > pixels are painted over and on that basis decides if the resolution is > high enough or not. > I don't think there is an applet to do the work. Various things come > close. For example the picture info box shows you what the final > resolution of images is. There is a pre-press applet which could be > extended. This is something I have to do regularly with OPro, as I use it to prepare books that are often photo-heavy. I would like to produce an applet(s) to perform a number of tasks on images within a document, such as reporting dpi, reporting proxy and reference status etc. I've discussed this in the distant past with you David and we talked about a set of functions for bouncing through the objects within a document and being able to read/write the object data as DDL strings. Did you ever look any further at implementing any of these features? > Does your print shop's program not give a list of the illustrations that > are problematical? If a PDF file is created then Acrobat's pre-flight functions can be used to list images lower than a certain resolution and a list is produced of images and what page they appear on. Gavin To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 19:50:14 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSwp1-1UyGPo-07-FCO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:50:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSwp1-1UyGPo-07-FCO; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:43:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSwp1-1UyGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:43:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSwoy-0003Cc-B4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:43:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4D30CD1641C; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:43:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pw8n0+G2efnL; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 64604D11CD5; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 42CF5D16117 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VPgrY1IN1Ei4 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D0D0D11CD5 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSwog-0005Xs-G9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:42:54 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:42:46 +0100 Message-ID: <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2489 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=eCN4PuKKP8zaZhk9fnwA:9 a=q5ydPIKaHywCVomQj1kA:7 a=Ing4FpcFvb0ox_pm8Fhp01s4nHcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=QrErfEu2so5-mXF6:21 a=fdG5vhJFB4LtdSPt:21 In message Alan Adams wrote: > Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I > haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is > possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the > application. How are tags dealt with? That has reminded me. I wrote an article for Foundation RISC User many moons ago about writing scripts and applets. Richard Hallas, who edited the magazine, kindly returned a copy of the HTML articles to me formated in such a way that they could be hosted somewhere else on the net. I'll look at uploading them to some space somewhere - or if David would like to host them on his site he is most welcome to. Perhaps they could be added to the Ovation Pro CD within the resources section. Gav. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 21:35:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSyY6-01LGPo-03-DTJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:35:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSyY6-01LGPo-03-DTJ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:33:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSyY6-01LGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:33:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSyY2-0002cY-Bh for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:33:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9539D17599; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ySzo88QCMAN; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02E56D16953; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF58AD174F7 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zCeXWXu9gIyz for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93B39D16953 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSyXk-0002BX-iy for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:33:33 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:32:24 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: pre-press checking for DPI of pictures References: <6399e22c51.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> <$iZVxAC2lyJMFwHV@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2490 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QhEcxAUm6bgA:10 a=UBIxAjGgU1YA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=-XjByFRyGQc7GFanhO8A:7 a=5mbuooGeUShhDTN_a4fuVW8Wrh8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=Tt7GuxwwX4aqnl1X:21 a=288WepxcRUs1bPau:21 Hi, In message , Gavin Crawford writes >I would like to produce an applet(s) to perform a number of tasks on >images within a document, such as reporting dpi, reporting proxy and >reference status etc. I've discussed this in the distant past with you >David and we talked about a set of functions for bouncing through the >objects within a document and being able to read/write the object data >as DDL strings. Did you ever look any further at implementing any of >these features? Well yes I looked further, but I've not done anything. I'm sorry about that. Functions for skipping through frames are an omission, easy to add. I'm busy at the moment, but it is the sort of thing I could do as soon as Summer is over (next week I hear you say). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Jun 27 21:50:18 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OSyc2-2MnVbs-04-DPN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:50:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OSyc2-2MnVbs-04-DPN; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:37:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OSyc2-2MnVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:37:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OSybz-0002vV-WF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:37:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D6CCD175C6; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zksVB-fjRfkw; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FD01D16953; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1FB07D1757A for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L4rPlqJPpsRd for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6B17D16953 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OSybi-0006fC-aZ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:37:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:36:05 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Anyone into writing applets? References: <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> In-Reply-To: <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2491 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4A5gCG_wcGOhbipygVMA:9 a=ucLkc_rs2pa6pvGrTeAA:7 a=IsoF2tf2N190VNAP5hSAenvRIJsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=-P05ZFnQgg72J-gN:21 a=HsWR95cCXIfmTkEx:21 Hi, In message <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail>, Gavin Crawford writes >That has reminded me. I wrote an article for Foundation RISC User many >moons ago about writing scripts and applets. Richard Hallas, who >edited the magazine, kindly returned a copy of the HTML articles to me >formated in such a way that they could be hosted somewhere else on the >net. I'll look at uploading them to some space somewhere - or if David >would like to host them on his site he is most welcome to. Perhaps >they could be added to the Ovation Pro CD within the resources >section. That would be good. I'm happy to put things on my website. Good to put them on your own site too. There is some material on the OP CD about writing scripts and applets. There are also lots of applets which you can look at (because they're mostly written using the script language), and there's the Script language manual. The Script language is more or less, 'C'. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 15:08:50 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTErP-306000-03-ED2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:08:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTErP-306000-03-ED2; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:58:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTErP-306000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:58:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTErO-0003vt-2X for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:58:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5EE5FD17C3F; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5miZkg0+Sj1; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB6C3D17775; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7FF8AD17B4F for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xcdM3kIDmnn9 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33A97D17775 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:58:37 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAEhHKEzUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACSfY0jwDeFJAQ Received: from outmx06.plus.net (HELO outmx04.plus.net) ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2010 14:58:37 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OTEr6-000238-IQ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:58:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:58:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Snapper - help request Message-ID: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2492 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ADBQPqJMlbwA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VtrOLiwRN--7shisHGMA:9 a=Jl7Xl7G3py2dqALRkcUA:7 a=kak7gYqJHSnQYLIjyftbxHt2DrAA:4 The current release of Snapper does not work with the new 64k colour mode introduced in Select. I have no way of testing Snapper under Select. I am looking for one or more brave volunteers who 1. uses Snapper 2. has the kit to run in the new 64k colour mode 3. is willing to risc all in the pursuit of progress If so, contact me (probably best privately so as not to clog up the mail list too much). Thanks -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 15:38:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTFSi-2FDknw-03-Dbj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:38:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTFSi-2FDknw-03-Dbj; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTFSi-2FDknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTFSf-000463-CI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5F0A0D1780A; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cKlJfzAIONvS; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89358D177A7; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62BF8D177BD for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bA6rp8zcn49Y for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2A7E9D177A7 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OTFSO-0000wj-b8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:37:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:35:40 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper - help request References: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2493 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SzmBAN-IfSAA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XNJ0R-A_3FzPoMTKF0AA:9 a=tYJD5p3bkr6_9_R-ZFUA:7 a=EMoQfZp8kx2aM2HJU3BFYi6MF-sA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6z-ibYCMEKWoLvAw:21 a=GdTYdTFJR7I7yfFn:21 In message <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >The current release of Snapper does not work with the new 64k colour >mode introduced in Select. I have no way of testing Snapper under >Select. I wonder does a snap in a 64k mode result in a 64k mode sprite. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 16:23:52 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTG8I-30f000-01-Cw9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:23:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTG8I-30f000-01-Cw9; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:20:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTG8I-30f000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:20:26 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTG8D-0001Fd-DH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:20:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7CA1CD177CC; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:20:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DD71lq7O1xBz; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B04DED170DE; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7D1E0D17399 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ik3HxfcGvGvE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30F81D170DE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:48 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAH9aKEzUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACSfY0jwF6FJAQ Received: from outmx04.plus.net (HELO outmx06.plus.net) ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2010 16:19:37 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OTG7V-00013u-1P for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:19:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:19:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper - help request Message-ID: <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: References: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2494 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SzmBAN-IfSAA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tE8SSiW3BqtVYys4R-oA:9 a=iYhiK6FMBVWxfUrdeQcA:7 a=pbvIuMWExslPzWINtKXDzPp1cFUA:4 a=4brRMCMv1jpPZfkJ:21 a=wJiaAzNDWTTvddVi:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > I wonder does a snap in a 64k mode result in a 64k mode sprite. I was assuming it does i.e. when a part of the screen is grabbed in a 64k colour mode using OS_SpriteOp 16 the OS will save it as a 64k mode sprite. If that is the case, then the release version will have a problem when it looks up the bpp value for a type 10 sprite (64k colours), since the static array of stored values only goes up to type 8 sprites 8o( -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 17:08:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTGiS-2Wq000-05-CLz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:08:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTGiS-2Wq000-05-CLz; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:57:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTGiS-2Wq000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:57:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTGiO-0007NM-6f for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:57:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1ACF6D17EF4; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jqRl4suVsnx8; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4C1E0D17E6B; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2159ED17E73 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQMU7m3WGMrX for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CAFC7D17E6B for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OTGi7-0004mg-bX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:57:27 +0000 Message-ID: <5M906tBrYMKMFwcj@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:56:27 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper - help request References: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2495 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SzmBAN-IfSAA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=pkCinQNcz4iTsOsTXL4A:7 a=9ZT22Gzy8wHixcTrwo7kqRiJZrQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=PsgDjw8OjlYNmmq5:21 a=9NzTt1RVXw6J_m73:21 In message <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson writes >In article , > David Pilling wrote: >> I wonder does a snap in a 64k mode result in a 64k mode sprite. > >I was assuming it does i.e. when a part of the screen is grabbed in a >64k colour mode using OS_SpriteOp 16 the OS will save it as a 64k >mode sprite. > >If that is the case, then the release version will have a problem >when it looks up the bpp value for a type 10 sprite (64k colours), >since the static array of stored values only goes up to type 8 >sprites 8o( I was wondering what happens when 64k sprites are turned loose. Do apps understand them, for example something like Ovation Pro uses RISC OS to render sprites but probably also has some code of its own, then there are apps like DPScan which process sprites using all their own code. I might be inclined to automagically convert to 32bit sprites. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 17:23:54 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTH3w-2qcGPo-03-C0V.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:23:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTH3w-2qcGPo-03-C0V; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:20:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTH3w-2qcGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:20:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTH3s-0005hb-AW for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:20:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B4189D175DB; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fat7hkBlzDAY; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF400D17219; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6FA0AD17586 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Qp-YZmrQl2Z for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EAACD17219 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:19:39 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQFAI5oKEzUnw4U/2dsb2JhbACSfYwyccBqhSQE Received: from outmx08.plus.net ([212.159.14.20]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2010 17:19:39 +0100 Received: from chrisjohnson.plus.com ([80.229.143.2] helo=radstock.localdomain) by outmx08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OTH3a-00062Z-R1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:19:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:18:40 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper - help request Message-ID: <512e88dba4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <5M906tBrYMKMFwcj@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5M906tBrYMKMFwcj@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2496 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SzmBAN-IfSAA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Wx8OYCSh2ektr14CAmsA:9 a=Ef87vB0cTeJ6Rp3gfnEA:7 a=nAoEirae88Ox_RZLmPYHcwmh4_YA:4 a=581OXVqrrzmb37HT:21 a=cyNpz_2Kpjs4T3yo:21 In article <5M906tBrYMKMFwcj@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > I was wondering what happens when 64k sprites are turned loose. Earlier Selects, and e.g. RISC OS 5 will not understand them. The OS on a machine using 64k colours/sprites will. For something like Snapper, which will only meet them on machines running Select 6.20 or whatever in 64k colours, the OS hopefully does much of the work transparently. However, for other apps which might be presented with such sprites, then they need to understand them at least sufficiently to trap and convert them back to 32k colours when loading them. I remain to be convinced that there is a real advantage of 64k colours over 32k colours in general use. -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 30 11:55:54 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTuoR-20NGPo-03-Esa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:55:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTuoR-20NGPo-03-Esa; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:46:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTuoR-20NGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:46:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTuoQ-0005e6-G1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:46:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA5F9D17D1D; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id prB9CVq2zQQE; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5F52D1716A; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B928AD17C9F for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ibwE5bexMgh for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 829C4D1716A for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OTuo7-0000rN-mV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:46:19 +0000 Message-ID: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:44:40 +0100 To: David Pilling From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2497 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WGRZzvD-bqYA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=rOXyhUUgzJbfEDvA40QA:7 a=biJzch0COeMFCe9qTWd6dp4tNmUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4Z__cDNo9JYzFEWJ:21 a=llLWKfMS_AIU2uez:21 Hi, Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed address ======================================================= I do not use Ovation Pro very often at present. I just needed to print out a document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network error (Print Cancelled)" Other applications are printing fine. Any Ideas? I have fired this off to Andrew, but I was hoping someone here might have an idea, particularly if they had come across it before. Risc PC 6.14, Uniprint 4.03, Windows 7 ======================================================= -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 30 12:10:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTv5N-1wuknw-02-Ebe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:10:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTv5N-1wuknw-02-Ebe; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:04:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTv5N-1wuknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:04:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTv5K-0005Hk-OV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 23641D17D6C; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:04:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r9YmxuM-SCHf; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5364FD17C68; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2823CD17D1D for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97w1yKuKaCzF for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6E5AD17C68 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OTv54-0002Ey-ni for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:03:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:02:12 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Lgn8cJko8HnLlXj8__0A:9 a=ZtUq8iAV8PTeSu9Y6rUA:7 a=TTxqUyc-uJEKEOm5SEzGP1G5uZsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IPN12CspqTEang0j:21 a=IiEpZ1L_WZ4eyhLS:21 In message <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling writes >Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed address >======================================================= >document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when >attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network >error (Print Cancelled)" >======================================================= These 'other applications' that print fine, are they printing similar things. It's no good comparing many megabytes from OP with a handful of bytes from Edit. Although the way Uniprint works the comparison is not simple. But say you printed 100 pages from OP and 1 page from Draw, the OP job would have considerably more scope to find a network problem. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 30 12:25:55 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTvFn-38dknw-07-ERE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:25:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTvFn-38dknw-07-ERE; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:14:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTvFn-38dknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:14:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTvFk-0007Gr-La for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:14:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 45C28D17CB0; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vNcocFlvyDUP; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7CF3DD17C8B; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 538FFD17C92 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tx6Y4n7r07Cf for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04BBAD17C8B for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:14:36 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEANbDKkxUXebj/2dsb2JhbACfWXG/HoUlBA Received: from outmx01.plus.net ([84.93.230.227]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2010 12:14:36 +0100 Received: from bapfish.plus.com ([84.92.151.71] helo=Iyonix.bapfish.plus.com) by outmx01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1OTvFT-0000se-Hq for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:14:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) To: David Pilling From: Bernard Veasey X-Editor: EmailEdit 6.00 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/6.00 (MsgServe/6.00S) (RISC-OS/5.16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2499 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bernard@bapfish.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=VX9edGI6SIHHZd5XYMEA:9 a=BpOlhflHY-GICtIehnoA:7 a=biOtkBYWxgFPwFUgCQqYEu25kqMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5jkra1JB0jDnBqdv:21 a=IN0UD6k3A95Z5rk1:21 In message <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed address > ======================================================= > > I do not use Ovation Pro very often at present. I just needed to print > out a document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when > attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network > error (Print Cancelled)" > > Other applications are printing fine. Any Ideas? > > I have fired this off to Andrew, but I was hoping someone here might > have an idea, particularly if they had come across it before. > > Risc PC 6.14, Uniprint 4.03, Windows 7 > ======================================================= I had the same problem the other week, there is a bug in version 4.03 of UniPrint.exe that is on your Windows PC. Andrew of RComp emailed me an updated version (4.03a) and that cured the problem. Bernard -- Contact Me - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/contactme/ Web - http://www.bapfish.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 30 12:25:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTvNM-328000-03-EJf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:25:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTvNM-328000-03-EJf; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:22:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTvNM-328000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:22:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTvNH-0000xy-MU for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:22:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21D1DD17CDC; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SksHd5QdtVkC; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14004D17CC2; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E4ED4D17CD5 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a5F+rJkgLyUv for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx4.orcon.net.nz (mx4.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.54]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99E60D17CC2 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Debian-exim by mx4.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTvMy-0004FL-Kd for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:22:20 +1200 Received: from [60.234.184.59] (helo=mysteriousmrf.my.home) by mx4.orcon.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTvMy-0004Er-9x for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:22:20 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Greenfield To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:24:01 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Snapper - help request Message-ID: <512f758dectheboss@webmonster.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <512e88dba4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <512e7c02e1chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <512e8369aachris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5M906tBrYMKMFwcj@pilling.demon.co.uk> <512e88dba4chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.14) Content-Type: text/plain X-DSPAM-Check: by mx4.orcon.net.nz on Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:22:20 +1200 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Jun 30 23:22:20 2010 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.6120 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-archive-position: 2500 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: theboss@webmonster.co.nz Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SzmBAN-IfSAA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=jzPvenjVHHIA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=an63MGxJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=JH6XsGgC0aNCVZunupkA:9 a=xVeJm9S1BTsMPulcNXIA:7 a=CERaoezTfeonkxxFQOkZ7wzT_hkA:4 On 29 Jun, Chris Johnson wrote: > I remain to be convinced that there is a real advantage of 64k > colours over 32k colours in general use. Graduated fills are much smoother, which I find handy when using Artworks or OvationPro especially. Netsurf rendering of jpegs is noticably better in 64k colours. In the bigger picture of things I guess 64k colours is a bit of a trick to eke yet more out of our RiscPCs; I wonder if ROOL will see any need to include it in RISC OS 5? regards, -- Robert Greenfield Webmonster. RISC OS and Acorn solutions. - http://www.webmonster.co.nz/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Jun 30 12:25:56 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OTvPj-4HRknw-02-EHI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:25:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OTvPj-4HRknw-02-EHI; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:25:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OTvPj-4HRknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:25:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OTvPg-0001eT-Hn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:25:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0A0A9D17D84; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:25:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kW+Afyw1H7Mh; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18B59D17CD7; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:24:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E3695D17CE3 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:24:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M0+V8Jp4mcZ4 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7CB3D17CD7 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OTvPO-0007UN-lf for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:24:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: David Pilling Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:24:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) Message-ID: <512f759d9dcharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2501 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LiJiuk8zvlhtKPp6G_MA:9 a=OzmxooUf7BQX2hLHRToA:7 a=40XcswuDnpHF23i5xxRX-YLUxjMA:4 a=0EZIHandFGdiw5Ih:21 a=bv_ffKFyCJu_yU1P:21 In article <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed address > ======================================================= > I do not use Ovation Pro very often at present. I just needed to print > out a document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when > attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network > error (Print Cancelled)" > Other applications are printing fine. Any Ideas? > I have fired this off to Andrew, but I was hoping someone here might > have an idea, particularly if they had come across it before. > Risc PC 6.14, Uniprint 4.03, Windows 7 > ======================================================= If the file is very long - don't know how long - Uniprint4 seems to 'drop off'. I found this yesterday when attempting to print 4 copies of an Artworks file. Single copies print quite happily. Life is too short for me to spend time seeing what the actual limit is. -- >From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jul 1 11:55:28 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OU5kz-0g2Vbs-07-CSY.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:55:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OU5kz-0g2Vbs-07-CSY; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:27:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OU5kz-0g2Vbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:27:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OU5kw-0002fr-Mj for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:27:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2AF25D180E0; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H0KJsdoqGYSn; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3AEB2D17646; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0E9DFD17658 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wMmuqwheEhM9 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.genesysnet.co.uk (zen.genesysnet.co.uk [86.54.100.209]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A78B9D17646 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riscpc.orpheusnet.co.uk ([91.85.215.11]) by zen.genesysnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o5UMRKf7025105 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:27:21 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Adrian Crafer X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:27:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43S) (RISC-OS/6.14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2502 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: acrafer@argonet.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=I2trMZZ3AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=l7Bct9WhfkZRltDmslQA:9 a=bVIQG5cVciWX-MXiAu4A:7 a=xxa0dL6rRdwJwoHNuUoCkUBR5toA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iamVuytRPj4A:10 a=x2Ksi1QGLFhkMnIw:21 a=sEvZfQwRazoyBujG:21 In message Bernard Veasey wrote: > In message <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> > David Pilling wrote: >> Hi, >> Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed address >> ======================================================= >> >> I do not use Ovation Pro very often at present. I just needed to print >> out a document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when >> attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network >> error (Print Cancelled)" >> >> Other applications are printing fine. Any Ideas? >> >> I have fired this off to Andrew, but I was hoping someone here might >> have an idea, particularly if they had come across it before. >> >> Risc PC 6.14, Uniprint 4.03, Windows 7 >> ======================================================= > I had the same problem the other week, there is a bug in version 4.03 > of UniPrint.exe that is on your Windows PC. Andrew of RComp emailed > me an updated version (4.03a) and that cured the problem. > Bernard To answer the question posed by others, I was only printing a one page document, so it was smaller than some of the other things I was printing on other programmes. Andrew has also sent me an update, however it did not solve the problem. Though it is possible he sent me the wrong version as it still reports itself as 4.03 rather than 4.03a Adrian Crafer -- acrafer@argonet.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jul 1 11:55:42 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OUDot-187000-08-CvA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:55:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OUDot-187000-08-CvA; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:04:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OUDot-187000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:04:23 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OUDol-0007F8-Ut for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:04:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 75DC0D18080; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:04:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LYaXdestbxt6; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C1B79D17FF0; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A8DAD1807D for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KuK7au5xtd39 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 61994D17FF0 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OUDoT-0004oH-We for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:03:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:48:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) Message-ID: <512fe02bd8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.16) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 2503 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=CUzElw1UAAAA:8 a=I2trMZZ3AAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=X6ERjUvwAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=9DzRDrqBV6G_jquFjtQA:9 a=3IiA3V7av8XDbaTVDCMA:7 a=TD_sicmlcNsMNFxhwV-Xe8Z155wA:4 a=NzRKRGecCgIA:10 a=iamVuytRPj4A:10 a=GGwXPyWqjBbpCrx8:21 a=vP0A96Y3Ku-9ccmd:21 In article , Adrian Crafer wrote: > In message > Bernard Veasey wrote: > > In message <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> > > David Pilling wrote: > >> Hi, Adrian Crafer posted the following message from a non-subscribed > >> address ======================================================= > >> > >> I do not use Ovation Pro very often at present. I just needed to print > >> out a document I had previously prepared and printed before, and when > >> attempting via Uniprint 4.03 I got an error from Ovation Pro "Network > >> error (Print Cancelled)" > >> > >> Other applications are printing fine. Any Ideas? > >> > >> I have fired this off to Andrew, but I was hoping someone here might > >> have an idea, particularly if they had come across it before. > >> > >> Risc PC 6.14, Uniprint 4.03, Windows 7 > >> ======================================================= > > I had the same problem the other week, there is a bug in version 4.03 > > of UniPrint.exe that is on your Windows PC. Andrew of RComp emailed > > me an updated version (4.03a) and that cured the problem. > > Bernard > To answer the question posed by others, I was only printing a one page > document, so it was smaller than some of the other things I was > printing on other programmes. One page with a detailed picture can be larger than 2 pages of plain text. -- >From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu Jul 1 12:25:24 2010 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1OUHjO-1f9000-05-90f.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:25:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1OUHjO-1f9000-05-90f; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:14:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1OUHjO-1f9000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:14:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1OUHjI-0006fe-TS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:14:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A68EBD18FB8; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BhG+9dJsF0ra; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3AF4ED18955; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:14:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F6B6D18EF6 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KJtindq1bpt1 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B7B5D18EC0 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2010 07:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1OUHij-0005sh-lx for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:14:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:12:46 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Printing problem (Adrian Crafer) References: <8ChV5aAYAyKMFw8F@pilling.demon.co.uk> <512fe02bd8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <512fe02bd8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 2504 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o_gHOFEovDkA:10 a=GQCbJdZ--msA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4kKp12NNWYV4bY1ohMUA:9 a=UcAqIS2rkEH8swVRrC4A:7 a=dQ5Z1h7YYOZygbDN5Wg40aVaNU8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Csbu1lDob8_tlTwT:21 a=-XXRbOwGcVbFq3yK:21 Hi, In message <512fe02bd8charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>, charles writes >One page with a detailed picture can be larger than 2 pages of plain text. As I understand it Uniprint, renders documents on RISC OS to a sprite/bitmap and then ships the bitmap over the network to Windows. How big the bitmap is depends on how much optimisation the author of Uniprint has done - for example chopping off unused bits of the page or using data compression. Probably a simple page in OP, say one word, will produce a smaller bitmap and stress the network less than a complex page involving many graphics. The two step printing procedure (render, ship over network) puts OP one step away from the network. It is similar to ArcFax or SPrinter. I wonder if like those programs you can actually do the printing in two steps, i.e. have a look at the bitmap before it goes over the network. Another unhappy prospect is that the problem is data dependent, i.e. a particular pattern of bytes upsets things. Programs on RISC OS use the printer driver system in one of two ways. That can lead to the "program A prints and program B doesn't" scenario. OP print choices will let you set up OP one way or the other. But given the way Uniprint works this probably won't make any difference. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Gavin Crawford X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <0393213051.Crawfords@mail> References: <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> In-Reply-To: <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.13 (MsgServe/3.43) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2505 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-To: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SrOIfzRi5ugA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=VxTVS7b7AAAA:8 a=HZccNrEIAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ABhQxxE0loH0iRstswQA:9 a=G8vRaMm8YgHiYoGC-xUA:7 a=4ApoJ3j6oTJxDm0_oETHUgdsUQQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=JKNcWJ2mFd9vMOEH:21 a=3bN_Q2H-ZBaDU5oD:21 In message <2537122e51.Crawfords@mail> Gavin Crawford wrote: > In message > Alan Adams wrote: >> Anyone fancy a bit of programming? Although I do write stuff, I >> haven't investigated OPro internals. I don't even know whether this is >> possible as an applet, or whether it would require changes to the >> application. How are tags dealt with? > That has reminded me. I wrote an article for Foundation RISC User many > moons ago about writing scripts and applets. Richard Hallas, who > edited the magazine, kindly returned a copy of the HTML articles to me > formated in such a way that they could be hosted somewhere else on the > net. I'll look at uploading them to some space somewhere. The article can now be found at: http://www.dentrassis.com/opro_script/ Gav. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling