From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 30 11:57:36 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LoCuB-3LC000-08-Gou.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:57:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LoCuB-3LC000-08-Gou; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:31:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LoCuB-3LC000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:31:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LoCuB-0005u9-90 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:31:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B60A8C09E88; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DhgTKyhVC2+o; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 67BB2C09B1F; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DBE7C09E88 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RKh4tOUmXFMu for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DDFA5C09E5B for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2U8V2aK021102 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:31:02 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n2U8V1le021101; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:31:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to djw@argonet.co.uk using -f Received: from 94.194.199.184 (WebMail authenticated user bb45) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:31:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <49227.94.194.199.184.1238401861.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <98f4cb3a50.tim@southfarm.plus.com> References: <200903111820.n2BIKfGI024735@ludo.freeuk.net> <49B819D4.7030905@internode.on.net> <49230.94.194.199.184.1236841993.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> <98f4cb3a50.tim@southfarm.plus.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:31:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Tablemate From: "D. J. Willington" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.13-1.fc8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1471 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: djw@argonet.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=I2trMZZ3AAAA:8 a=v6Aic-fSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=cUI0ifXyVXK-8VtGnxQA:9 a=KTB-pLEnZvegnIZgQzkA:7 a=lPfKNotknO7vrsJaYPtknkrwcfQA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 a=iamVuytRPj4A:10 a=wl_QvbsadU8A:10 > In message of 12 Mar, "D. J. Willington" wrote: > > > >> Do you have VRPC on you Windows PC? I am told that TableMate should >> run with VRPC, but I have not managed it so far. > > It may depend on the version of Tablemate that you have. I have 5.03b > and it runs well on VARPC on a mac. My firm thought is that Tablemate > should also run on VARPC on Windows. > > The hopefully good news is that CJE Micro's is working on an upgrade to > Tablemate. > > -- > Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@= powys.org > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: htt= p://powys.org/ > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > Thanks. My TableMate problem is now answered with the help of CJE. Dave To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Mar 30 11:57:36 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LoCw0-1mYVbs-03-Gn5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:57:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LoCw0-1mYVbs-03-Gn5; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:33:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LoCw0-1mYVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:33:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LoCvz-00020Q-Op for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:33:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DA76C09DE2; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:33:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ozIIQwlYjpm; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED989C09DE1; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:32:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2086C09DE2 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:32:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RsW0fn4buB3B for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8FA2DC09B1F for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2U8WuIr021122 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:56 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n2U8Wu7f021121; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to djw@argonet.co.uk using -f Received: from 94.194.199.184 (WebMail authenticated user bb45) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <49233.94.194.199.184.1238401976.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8e70a23e50.boase@boase.demon.co.uk> References: <200903111820.n2BIKfGI024735@ludo.freeuk.net> <49B819D4.7030905@internode.on.net> <49230.94.194.199.184.1236841993.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> <98f4cb3a50.tim@southfarm.plus.com> <49207.94.194.199.184.1237043853.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> <8e70a23e50.boase@boase.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:56 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Tablemate From: "D. J. Willington" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.13-1.fc8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1472 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: djw@argonet.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=I2trMZZ3AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4jCRp-7PhdIBicX0xFcA:9 a=NA4hGZczhDR5A0uVHGYA:7 a=1hO8lfUujL_-j0XjfBvksn83eaMA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 a=iamVuytRPj4A:10 > On 14 Mar, "D. J. Willington" wrote: > >> I have TableMate v5.01b and I cannot get it to run under VRPCSA. Ant >> tips? > > CJE have just upgraded me to 5.03d (04-Nov-2001). The upgrade included > the necessary module ImageConv 0.14 (03-Mar-1998). > > This version works both under RISC OS 5.13 (with Aemulor) and under > VirtualRPC-AdjustSA with RISC OS 4.39. > > -- > Bernard > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: > http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling > Thanks. My TableMate problem is now fixed with the help of CJE. Dave To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 11:50:42 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LpfVS-1PHVbs-01-BSn.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:50:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LpfVS-1PHVbs-01-BSn; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:16:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LpfVS-1PHVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:16:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LpfVS-00072d-8H for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:16:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BBDEAC16D48; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:16:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E3Okbgvy2C46; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F896C17759; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 73CF6C16D48 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9j91VSA6kmKJ for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx3.orcon.net.nz (mx3.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.53]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F6F9C15761 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Debian-exim by mx3.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LpfUq-0003VE-9v for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:15:32 +1300 Received: from [60.234.184.59] (helo=mysteriousmrf.my.home) by mx3.orcon.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LpfUp-0003Uu-Sy for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:15:32 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Greenfield To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:17:07 +1300 Subject: [softwarelist] A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-DSPAM-Check: by mx3.orcon.net.nz on Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:15:32 +1300 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 22:15:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.6858 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-archive-position: 1473 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: theboss@webmonster.co.nz Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-nntvnDxslUA:10 a=nRb0SWhuRwkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=l-LtmRiKibPFHRkKbIIA:9 a=IaKjEJSybzPnXrne9YMA:7 a=SKjbxQKgobjFyB5UO7Fqs17OrrIA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Hi all, I have an OvPro (RISC OS) document which is able to create 2 nasty errors in succession: Attempting to save causes OvPro to fail with a Type=5 error. This then leads to an evil 'Filecore in use' error and the desktop starts to fail in a chain. The good news - saving as a ddl format has purged the file so I'm OK, but is the original file of any interest for bugfixing etc.? The last bit I worked on before it became unhappy is a graphics frame. It was a drawfile then I dropped an Artworks one on top of it instead. RPC SA RO4.39 regards, -- Robert Greenfield Webmonster. RISC OS and Acorn solutions. - http://www.webmonster.co..nz/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 12:05:32 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lph5q-1CZknw-08-9sP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:05:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lph5q-1CZknw-08-9sP; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:57:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lph5q-1CZknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:57:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lph5p-0002V2-NQ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:57:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6CCEC18663; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:57:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H3ntOb1yO+qa; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 555A7C1865A; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:56:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 69461C18209 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:56:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id unOUxys2ErNu for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2B900C181CD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lph4u-0005Gt-kX for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:56:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:54:52 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1474 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0G5voENt14xGt25FCeIA:9 a=Lg5jxl3EGAh1JPunvN0A:7 a=LZz5V0EpXdi7fhrpbAkggTC8-rsA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=3GslZG78-cllhW_D:21 a=Ra13NZFW9O8RXi62:21 Hi, In message <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz>, Robert Greenfield writes >I have an OvPro (RISC OS) document which is able to create 2 nasty errors >in succession: >Attempting to save causes OvPro to fail with a Type=5 error. >This then leads to an evil 'Filecore in use' error and the desktop starts >to fail in a chain. > >The good news - saving as a ddl format has purged the file so I'm OK, but >is the original file of any interest for bugfixing etc.? It's not really of any interest. A repeatable set of steps that lead to the problem would be of great interest. The problem with a broken file is that investigating takes a lot of time, and usually one ends up saying "ah yes this is a broken file" but with no idea as to what went wrong. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 12:50:33 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lphnm-0MZ000-04-9AT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:50:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lphnm-0MZ000-04-9AT; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:43:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lphnm-0MZ000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:43:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lphnm-0004YV-8R for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:43:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79AB5C182E7; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:43:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IyV+bkADnk2i; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36BF7C171B7; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:42:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6106FC182E7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:42:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PjU3CiDLbAan for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DCBE2C18107 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (88-134-97-95-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.97.95]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1LphnB1wlf-00083u; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:42:37 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:43:11 +0200 Message-ID: <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18rt8DYyATNq8/ESxIDe6z6WkH0YO1aXGQAEqs oudIqL0K01lMIGl0xSQqyjyPpJcWCl45htn52M6r3W7XLtmyWl kNAqyb8w1wOd/ziaiPvaBts4n4vPhDs X-archive-position: 1475 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=lBtPEpvA6Mi0W6HLSOkA:9 a=9S05ZYlCsNaaItApiZIA:7 a=AvilH0HTZWNe9lTrcpyXeG37E04A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> Robert Greenfield wrote: > Hi all, > I have an OvPro (RISC OS) document which is able to create 2 nasty errors > in succession: > Attempting to save causes OvPro to fail with a Type=5 error. > This then leads to an evil 'Filecore in use' error and the desktop starts > to fail in a chain. The Filecore problem is quite drastic but is really a follow up error and outside the control of OP. It is probably caused by invalid parameters OP passes to RISC OS in response to the faulty document, which cause an abort inside FileCore. This should never happen, so this would count as a RISC OS filing system bug. In an ideal world a faulty application should not be able to bring down the complete system by passing incorrect parameters, but RISC OS is not particularly good at protecting itself from faulty applications. In fact, nowadays, you would not even expect an application to be able to do this deliberately, which is even more difficult to prevent. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 14:05:35 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LpiyA-0NrVbs-01-GWb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:05:35 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LpiyA-0NrVbs-01-GWb; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:58:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LpiyA-0NrVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:58:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lpiy9-0005P4-VV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:58:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0491EC15C5D; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:58:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezjAUkzpluMz; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C1765C17735; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:57:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A338EC15C5D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:57:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wevgdf6z4uL7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F31CC15135 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LpixZ-0005IF-cw for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:57:25 +0000 Message-ID: <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:56:14 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1476 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=3P3ALCRc0lpNYtdfxqwA:9 a=7DaWUJotQmB7oNiircIA:7 a=jfKSitxbiRzf1NtndRmdxkMhg5IA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=rIkO9IGRph9mBw1u:21 a=CwCPXL-lY8FbzHdD:21 In message <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner writes >The Filecore problem is quite drastic but is really a follow up error >and outside the control of OP. It is probably caused by invalid >parameters OP passes to RISC OS in response to the faulty document, >which cause an abort inside FileCore. This should never happen, so One thing I put a lot of effort into was making OP do a block save of memory when saving (or loading) documents - so it says "please save this chunk of memory as a file". I suppose my thought was that OP had written over RISC OS private memory. It's a great pity that all memory outside applications own memory space isn't protected (and impossible to unprotect). I've said before how many bugs I found when porting OP to Windows just through the greater memory protection. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:07:26 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LplxJ-02b000-04-DXS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:07:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LplxJ-02b000-04-DXS; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:09:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LplxJ-02b000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:09:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LplxH-00007S-4r for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:09:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BA9E1C17C30; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:09:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fFis00W7q985; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78936C1714A; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:08:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 934F2C17C30 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:08:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eMEW1le3feXO for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.14]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41230C1528D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:08:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 90777074/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.179.88/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.179.88 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYHALfR1UlPTrNY/2dsb2JhbACBUo9jvkmEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,320,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="90777074" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-179-88.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.179.88]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 17:07:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:07:29 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1477 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MBaFPJzv2QQA:10 a=BeTPeUsHlfoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RUWtYAkGZYfCnik-SGUA:9 a=MK_7l3h7PCNlcik6ckEA:7 a=fCH6tNCJxkBUyH7ldWj5GGlaL9AA:4 a=8b0TY1xhFYQA:10 Can anyone help! I am trying to create and print a simple certificate in OvationPro and am using a border that I have copied from Impression. I have placed the border into OvationPro's !OvnResDir.Borders folder. When I print to my laser printer the corners of the border print but the lines joining them do not. When I print to my inkjet printer the corners print, the lines on the short sides of the paper print but those on the long sides do not! When I print to a .pdf file using RComp's PDFMaker then the lines and corners both print. (That would be a good workaround except that then one of the fonts I have used in the document is replaced by Homerton!) I really can't work out what on earth is going on! Any ideas? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:07:26 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LplzT-1MVVbs-07-DVI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:07:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LplzT-1MVVbs-07-DVI; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:11:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LplzT-1MVVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:11:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LplzI-0000Wx-5L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:11:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 50C9FC18C84; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:11:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kud6fuksaYW7; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 026FDC190C8; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:10:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8AB8EC18C8F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YyWYQ5R7HUaG for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 43FE7C18C87 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 146660204/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.179.88/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.179.88 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYHAFXR1UlPTrNY/2dsb2JhbACBUo9jvlCEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,320,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="146660204" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-179-88.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.179.88]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 17:10:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:09:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1478 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=_g71kYm3vqMXaoo_QSkA:9 a=d63AWdbdXFW5mLc5xO8A:7 a=q7C2E7HguLq5kIDNvXgiwAVG_sgA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 a=K5twpjteIK_cD9Nx:21 a=MSPFAL0xaDoeZlqQ:21 In article <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > In message <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner > writes > >The Filecore problem is quite drastic but is really a follow up error > >and outside the control of OP. It is probably caused by invalid > >parameters OP passes to RISC OS in response to the faulty document, > >which cause an abort inside FileCore. This should never happen, so > One thing I put a lot of effort into was making OP do a block save of > memory when saving (or loading) documents - so it says "please save > this chunk of memory as a file". I suppose my thought was that OP had > written over RISC OS private memory. > It's a great pity that all memory outside applications own memory space > isn't protected (and impossible to unprotect). I've said before how > many bugs I found when porting OP to Windows just through the greater > memory protection. I wonder if that explains why I very often have problems with !Pluto crashing if I load OvationPro at the same time? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:07:27 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LpmK0-2OAknw-02-DAl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:07:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LpmK0-2OAknw-02-DAl; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:32:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LpmK0-2OAknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:32:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LpmK0-0006Oo-Hn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:32:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EDA69C19350; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s5ql+p0GKd+D; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8FDBC17E70; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:32:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F14E1C19350 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9rzQgJ9M6fOf for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98620C1934D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bach (88-134-97-95-dynip.superkabel.de [88.134.97.95]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv1o-1LpmJQ1pWg-000jSr; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:32:12 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:33:09 +0200 Message-ID: <2f2d484650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+aizGpr8+S0rgpOAfCgfpcSf/A4ZDj1Q7tmAB c/+G9Iq7hGBgGOw1/iqVXiT6NNJURLIr/Lf1Fdo4YBWZxngiPu 6yc3M2Kg1j3N187vdgWXQ== X-archive-position: 1479 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=U0qvvINNEI09CtyBVWwA:9 a=649Z1WyPTvAXnWb-4NIA:7 a=9UsDh0FX80XAAMzg9q-qMkqZjMIA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In message <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> "Rob Hemmings (News)" wrote: > When I print to a .pdf file using RComp's PDFMaker then the lines and > corners both print. (That would be a good workaround except that then > one of the fonts I have used in the document is replaced by Homerton!) I doubt that the font is really replaced in the PDF. At a guess, you are using !PDF to view the PDF file and !PDF is not very good at embedded fonts. Actually, it shows hardly any embedded fonts at all, but the one rather uncommon type it does cope with happens to be the one used by the Acorn printer driver most of the time. If the resulting PDF file is viewed using a more font literate PDF viewer (e.g., Adobe Reader, RiScript or GView/Ghostscript), then you will probably see the correct font. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:07:28 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lpn11-2RMVbs-02-CTk.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:07:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lpn11-2RMVbs-02-CTk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:17:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lpn11-2RMVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:17:15 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lpn0z-0001PP-Hb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:17:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E47ACC18EB7; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:17:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qj2VXASSzjwP; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 956D1C18EF3; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:16:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B626FC18EB7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:16:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NVAUFhJi4q+g for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04AB4C18FDE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:16:35 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAC/h1UnUnw4R/2dsb2JhbADPV4QPBg Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 18:16:32 +0100 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock.localdomain) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Lpn0J-0003Ep-R6 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:16:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:16:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Plusnet-Relay: 6dfc71081391a3c2fb5c7783fc6467f6 X-archive-position: 1480 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=sNmGy_712BTYK6oF9SsA:9 a=wI87pMUIvUYUJ38SqFIA:7 a=9Fd0KCpir0TMmTu0SXzlmFXBP4cA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 In article <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > I wonder if that explains why I very often have problems with !Pluto > crashing if I load OvationPro at the same time? I doubt it. I have both Pluto and Ovation Pro running permanently, 24/7, and any problem with either is very rare. I am running an Iyonix, though. Chris... -- Chris Johnson To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:22:23 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LppoW-2PkVbs-06-9gF.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:22:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LppoW-2PkVbs-06-9gF; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:16:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LppoW-2PkVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:16:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LppoE-00012O-4I for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:16:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1636DC1995A; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8GS19bn5VTVN; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C4D0DC1995B; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:14:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BCBEC1991A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WB2CPMkAkRVX for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.150]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9824CC197EE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LpplY-00017e-fK for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:13:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:12:23 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1481 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=oXyU08FWDfzUZSGA6RIA:9 a=Q7z9I42DA2Ovqi5nctYA:7 a=88-e3WjwvoFNDKcaNsSDrDOShnUA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=B7zn3pDJ1LrziZdI:21 a=0F3InOHiqbrKCOe2:21 In message <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" writes >When I print to my laser printer the corners of the border print but the >lines joining them do not. When I print to my inkjet printer the corners >print, the lines on the short sides of the paper print but those on the >long sides do not! It is hard to say without seeing the document. One thing that springs to mind is the usual one about "thin" lines (lines of width zero) in Draw files that render as one pixel - and often one pixel is too small to see on a printer. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 21:37:24 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lpq0s-3DDVbs-06-9Tt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:37:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lpq0s-3DDVbs-06-9Tt; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:29:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lpq0s-3DDVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:29:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lpq0o-0004FK-61 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:29:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7DC5C1892A; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YXPMU2YSew7a; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62C60C18F3F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:26:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADFBCC1892A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3rS2soAeU0wZ for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sif.is.scarlet.be (sif.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.28]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76595C1890F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hobbes (ip-81-11-180-138.dsl.scarlet.be [81.11.180.138]) by sif.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n33KQHHA000868 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:26:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:26:09 +0100 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.15) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-archive-position: 1482 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=7mELct32FYNU2S0oFHsA:9 a=q3W7iyax-0BfviTouZcA:7 a=VyflOawnkVGRv-ZlCNE2qncZf2wA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 In message <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > It's a great pity that all memory outside applications own memory space > isn't protected (and impossible to unprotect). I've said before how many > bugs I found when porting OP to Windows just through the greater memory > protection. It is indeed far from ideal but note that the zero page is protected in RISC OS 4 (or in Select ? Certainly in RISC OS 6) for User Mode programs. So the, unfortunately, common NULL ptr write (even when offset is used) makes any application die (which is probably then perceived by the user that RISC OS 4 is less stable but it is in fact the application which is faulty). I don't think that's the case in RISC OS 5, or is it ? John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 22:07:25 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LpqZ5-1Z3000-08-8vg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:07:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LpqZ5-1Z3000-08-8vg; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:04:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LpqZ5-1Z3000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:04:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LpqZ0-00075N-Tl for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:04:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02D3EC0CE34; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:04:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JBaB-7EDjiye; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADA75C19C21; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:03:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1E8BC19BA7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:03:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3EqTkUlPjFJV for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F74DC19BF7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LpqXs-0007Wm-YA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:03:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:02:14 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=wVLulTowZznVDury6mkA:7 a=j3t430Bx2uqXvwWX67HwTQ85ZfkA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 a=laSAr2NzChVTg7KC:21 a=DMfrKNchPpIDZTIy:21 In message , John Tytgat writes >> isn't protected (and impossible to unprotect). I've said before how many >It is indeed far from ideal but note that the zero page is protected in >RISC OS 4 (or in Select ? Certainly in RISC OS 6) for User Mode programs. But don't most people turn off that protection (ISTR)? I think the worst thing, and I'm guilty of doing it, is using direct write to memory to communicate with modules - since that is legal, it allows any program to accidentally corrupt the insides of RISC OS. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 3 23:07:27 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LprOK-2cmVbs-03-Gcx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:07:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LprOK-2cmVbs-03-Gcx; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:57:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LprOK-2cmVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:57:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LprOE-0003CY-P5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:57:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 907DAC19130; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:57:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ekj9cSdu7bU; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4726CC19994; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:56:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F2F9C19130 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8XI9GB5JViu for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sif.is.scarlet.be (sif.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.28]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83FE3C189C8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hobbes (ip-81-11-180-138.dsl.scarlet.be [81.11.180.138]) by sif.is.scarlet.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n33LujsO020897 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:56:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:55:50 +0100 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <0ab8654650.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.15) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-archive-position: 1484 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=Iiito8HDAAAA:8 a=3EK5X8rpAAAA:8 a=spqJ3BhSAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=n05va4osHCKFnp0Gs5YA:9 a=DThC6sPrPELI07WZ22sA:7 a=S2nkvwsQKXkeFZFM70LCiVBmMWUA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=O6VgNENP0SsA:10 In message you wrote: > In message , John Tytgat > writes > >> isn't protected (and impossible to unprotect). I've said before how many > >It is indeed far from ideal but note that the zero page is protected in > >RISC OS 4 (or in Select ? Certainly in RISC OS 6) for User Mode programs. To follow up on this, it is not only the zero page but several other, for RISC OS kernel sensitive, memory areas, see . > But don't most people turn off that protection (ISTR)? I would be surprised if that's the case as I'm not aware this can be easily switched off. And even it would be easy to do, it is kinda foolish and pointless to do. > I think the worst thing, and I'm guilty of doing it, is using direct > write to memory to communicate with modules - since that is legal, it > allows any program to accidentally corrupt the insides of RISC OS. It all depends which memory area you're talking about. I was talking about zero page currently being protected for some versions of RISC OS as far as I'm aware. E.g. writing to RMA memory is something different, and yes if you poke outside the block you're supposed to write, things go painfully wrong. Lukely rogue C/C++ based programs more ofter write to zero page than to RMA. John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:02:44 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq1eV-050Vbs-06-EtI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:02:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq1eV-050Vbs-06-EtI; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq1eV-050Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq1eU-0000s4-Nc for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F45CC0BB58; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LpX7qWNd8z4c; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04297C0C20F; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F5DBC1A106 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oEAiziE4kHxz for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4ECC8C1A0FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 235007249/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FAAe91klPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUY9nvAaEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,323,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="235007249" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 09:54:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:54:07 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1486 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=suoG2e4mFs3wmhurUTAA:9 a=o9UbOXok6IqX1W-rZkMA:7 a=tZBHiPv3mNh4vo7TYN5LbPPqAR8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=IhjDNJy-hJaNi1yb:21 a=QAZYL1Jj7BDaLYGk:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" > writes > >When I print to my laser printer the corners of the border print but > >the lines joining them do not. When I print to my inkjet printer the > >corners print, the lines on the short sides of the paper print but > >those on the long sides do not! > It is hard to say without seeing the document. One thing that springs > to mind is the usual one about "thin" lines (lines of width zero) in > Draw files that render as one pixel - and often one pixel is too small > to see on a printer. Thanks David, the lines are thicker than one pixel as far as I can see, partly because I have expanded the border size up to 30mm. I'd be very happy to send you the file to look at if you have time? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:02:45 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq1eV-2V8Vbs-07-EtI.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:02:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq1eV-2V8Vbs-07-EtI; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq1eV-2V8Vbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq1eU-0006VK-DS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:54:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22229C09D88; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dUkqtBm0G1pv; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C652BC0BB58; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33177C1A102 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3pAMVqfK1ohs for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDEF9C1A0FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:54:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 235007248/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FAAe91klPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUY9nvAaEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,323,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="235007248" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 09:54:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:49:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <5046a197c2rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <2f2d484650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <2f2d484650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1485 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lYvq0DDjAAAA:8 a=nqL81JpBAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jKor96APWbEnM2tUpwgA:9 a=CaS8SPo5jxZnvSKHxLYA:7 a=DHMR2-1EeHgdLJUGDXVhEJAUt0gA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=fl4ZfBcLCrEA:10 In article <2f2d484650.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> > "Rob Hemmings (News)" wrote: > > When I print to a .pdf file using RComp's PDFMaker then the lines and > > corners both print. (That would be a good workaround except that then > > one of the fonts I have used in the document is replaced by Homerton!) > I doubt that the font is really replaced in the PDF. At a guess, you > are using !PDF to view the PDF file and !PDF is not very good at > embedded fonts. Actually, it shows hardly any embedded fonts at all, > but the one rather uncommon type it does cope with happens to be the > one used by the Acorn printer driver most of the time. > If the resulting PDF file is viewed using a more font literate PDF > viewer (e.g., Adobe Reader, RiScript or GView/Ghostscript), then you > will probably see the correct font. > Martin Thanks Martin - you are absolutely correct. I had forgotten that !PDF had that weakness. I now have a work around for the problem. Thanks very much indeed. Rob -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:02:45 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq1gA-1WZ000-04-Erd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:02:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq1gA-1WZ000-04-Erd; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:56:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq1gA-1WZ000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:56:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq1g9-0005lS-L3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:56:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7BE4CC154DE; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cRfNZwGCc36O; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F2D6C17433; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:56:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D90DC154DE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkTV7khoE3Wj for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B154EC15168 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:56:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 235007382/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FAAe91klPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUY9nvAaEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,323,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="235007382" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 09:56:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:55:16 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1487 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jqaNrfL-HkkRiWbl_jIA:9 a=x-iCWk1c1jN9o4ky2JcA:7 a=d2JOH7pi0S0nDsyWQ0wixqafGS8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 In article <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, > Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > > I wonder if that explains why I very often have problems with !Pluto > > crashing if I load OvationPro at the same time? > I doubt it. I have both Pluto and Ovation Pro running permanently, > 24/7, and any problem with either is very rare. I am running an > Iyonix, though. > Chris... Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I should move !Pluto across to it instead. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:02:46 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq1xq-2Uiknw-02-EZx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:02:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq1xq-2Uiknw-02-EZx; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:14:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq1xq-2Uiknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:14:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq1xq-00009O-35 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:14:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B6B4C186F3; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id duMWT47MYh1u; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44895C1996E; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:14:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6039DC186F3 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60TquRh-sFYa for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 29807C18597 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.150.255.240] (helo=barryix.barryix.my.home) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lq1xF-0001ip-Gz for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:14:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:14:14 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [78.150.255.240] X-archive-position: 1488 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: barry@e-allen.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=YMZraitZnukyWcimpsIA:9 a=CEWgoZlLyVEgPyGr_7cA:7 a=trtRV_NfA1z9h2VBUffu5jA8fvMA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 In article <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I > should move !Pluto across to it instead. Just out of interest why do you still use the Risc PC over the Iyonix? I also have both but only use the Risc PC when I want to scan with my SCSI scanner. -- Barry A. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:02:47 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq2Jc-0L6GPo-07-EEB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:02:47 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq2Jc-0L6GPo-07-EEB; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:37:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq2Jc-0L6GPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:37:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq2Jc-0001ze-BT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:37:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0BABC19EC8; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:37:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T0w7v8i18jrn; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8B504C1A136; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:36:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2F42C19EC8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:36:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R-APap4x3yHB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A51DC1A0E6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:36:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 200931297/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FABrH1klPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUo9nu3SEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,323,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="200931297" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 10:36:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:31:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5046a565a2rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1489 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=5NK27A9AaFBx6FonK_YA:9 a=EE4Pu4VwgWyVGYQSCNAA:7 a=zcTeh57fogO9knCHdzNGA7T3Y7UA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=gU9cMp7dK2IwUt3w:21 a=ll2CFdadfKmCPLZ8:21 In article <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) > wrote: > > Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I > > should move !Pluto across to it instead. > Just out of interest why do you still use the Risc PC over the Iyonix? > I also have both but only use the Risc PC when I want to scan with my > SCSI scanner. I've split the things I do between the two computers so I usually do any graphics work and most wp/dtp type things on the Iyonix. I have kept the RiscPC for e-mails and some other tasks. This is partly for my own convenience but more because other members of the family use them as well and splitting jobs between the computers reduces contention! I also have a Windows laptop as well - basically I believe in using the most appropriate tool for the job. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:17:41 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq3jt-2fbGPo-06-Cnu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:17:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq3jt-2fbGPo-06-Cnu; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:08:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq3jt-2fbGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:08:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq3jt-0003Qi-7m for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:08:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A76FCC19E2F; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Me2bczKHzf39; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58512C1A046; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:08:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E9077C19E2F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ct0k5XOXXOLJ for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B0A11C19E2B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lq3jI-00001C-XG for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:08:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:06:33 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1490 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=fOuXLJk7HKD9bddbawIA:7 a=qHCYGtFxA91a5nytaJ1mKGXMZ4YA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=Pw58Net_Vvu7HUd4:21 a=_-OnkCbYey5RgzfQ:21 In message <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" writes >Thanks David, the lines are thicker than one pixel as far as I can see, >partly because I have expanded the border size up to 30mm. I'd be very >happy to send you the file to look at if you have time? Yes please. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 12:17:41 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq3lI-1phVbs-03-CmV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:17:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq3lI-1phVbs-03-CmV; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:10:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq3lI-1phVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:10:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq3lH-0002cm-SD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:10:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 69F29C1849D; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:10:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q0LLyNJ00jor; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 230F4C18418; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:09:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9CC4AC1849D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:09:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id orKJ8hMUQWj6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4A5A0C18418 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lq3kd-0000Na-lz for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:09:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:08:21 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1491 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=gHoz_cO5CMrTNq_D7JQA:7 a=T-GYVZmBVsBt9M-rgMs7DZewn74A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=9HarMCIkITgumiVU:21 a=y__EafXCUTAqX4Vz:21 In message <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" writes >> I doubt it. I have both Pluto and Ovation Pro running permanently, >> 24/7, and any problem with either is very rare. I am running an >Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I >should move !Pluto across to it instead. I think this comment has come up many times before - so often that you'd think there must be some truth in it and that someone would have worked out the cause. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 15:47:48 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq76H-1msknw-02-9RW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:47:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq76H-1msknw-02-9RW; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:44:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq76H-1msknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:44:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq76H-0001wc-EC for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:44:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E29E5C1A0B4; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zR9yv9LO8Rv9; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9F24EC1A0E6; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C0CE2C1A0B4 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4s73fj+O0Kdn for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 87D76C1A08E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lq75h-0007gH-gw for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:43:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:02 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1492 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=aEzzhSiEeBKUW1iwGXoA:7 a=qHM9x24ET_L9mTrfzf5TIqkul90A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=X9H6ZY3JeGYBB5Du:21 a=LxoMQ_t2LgcgA5ms:21 In message <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" writes >partly because I have expanded the border size up to 30mm. I'd be very >happy to send you the file to look at if you have time? Thanks for sending me the file. I've printed it successfully on Windows and RISC OS - it comes out looking just like it does on screen - correct. Having seen the file, I have an idea, the border maybe outside the print margins, oddly I only saw this because print margins are turned on in the document. Quick fix, click on "Fit" in the print dialogue. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 16:17:48 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq7XZ-201Vbs-06-90E.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:17:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq7XZ-201Vbs-06-90E; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq7XZ-201Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq7XY-0007Xt-SO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5BDA4C19E90; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:12:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id toK1+cDSpC5t; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1557EC19A35; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76444C19E90 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZKSkPYNYh+17 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22CF7C19A35 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:11:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 200974543/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FAJ4V10lPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUo9nunaEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,324,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="200974543" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 16:11:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:11:24 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1493 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=0MHSF8FieIRw5UXU0TgA:9 a=x17T9APZQ2OvLFAA2zUA:7 a=xbe7Z5K-kYZrMrfGhSumeh2HIQAA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=BMCGqhX5i2TIM3vA:21 a=4PYix_lYwryY9gdC:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" > writes > >partly because I have expanded the border size up to 30mm. I'd be very > >happy to send you the file to look at if you have time? > Thanks for sending me the file. > I've printed it successfully on Windows and RISC OS - it comes out > looking just like it does on screen - correct. > Having seen the file, I have an idea, the border maybe outside the > print margins, oddly I only saw this because print margins are turned > on in the document. > Quick fix, click on "Fit" in the print dialogue. Thanks for looking at it David - there must be something strange going on here! I didn't think it could be the print margin as on my screen the border is all (just) inside the grey boarder but just in case I've tried using "Fit" in the print dialogue and that makes no difference. That is, on my laser printer the corners print but not the lines in between - it really is very baffling! Is there anything else that I should have done with the border other than just copying it into Ovation's !OvnResDir.Borders? I've also tried it on both my Iyonix (Printers 1.72) and my RiscPC (Printers 1.64a) both with the same result. Does anyone else have any ideas? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 16:32:48 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lq7r6-0aLGPo-07-8gh.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lq7r6-0aLGPo-07-8gh; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:32:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lq7r6-0aLGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:32:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lq7r6-0004DK-Ck for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:32:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1746C1A1EC; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:32:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGMaz8RBZev1; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84931C1A233; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1DA2EC1A1EC for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X+rD32fzRdrJ for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C1547C19DF6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:31:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 146818072/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.163.43/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.43 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8FAIsa10lPTqMr/2dsb2JhbACBUo9num6EDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,324,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="146818072" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-163-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.163.43]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 16:31:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:31:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com> References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1494 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=suNt3Fz6VDAZ_WjKf3QA:9 a=AXnlRXpN3E6oMnsQeqEA:7 a=NJJnHp1AKgBc-AyoMw5POBkmfc0A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=sj37r0lGy1eqj727:21 a=X5jKBfmtS-C-vmg9:21 In article <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > In message <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" > > writes > > >partly because I have expanded the border size up to 30mm. I'd be very > > >happy to send you the file to look at if you have time? > > Thanks for sending me the file. > > I've printed it successfully on Windows and RISC OS - it comes out > > looking just like it does on screen - correct. > > Having seen the file, I have an idea, the border maybe outside the > > print margins, oddly I only saw this because print margins are turned > > on in the document. > > Quick fix, click on "Fit" in the print dialogue. > Thanks for looking at it David - there must be something strange going on > here! I didn't think it could be the print margin as on my screen the > border is all (just) inside the grey boarder but just in case I've tried > using "Fit" in the print dialogue and that makes no difference. That is, > on my laser printer the corners print but not the lines in between - it > really is very baffling! > Is there anything else that I should have done with the border other than > just copying it into Ovation's !OvnResDir.Borders? > I've also tried it on both my Iyonix (Printers 1.72) and my RiscPC > (Printers 1.64a) both with the same result. > Does anyone else have any ideas? Before anyone answers, just a bit more information. It does seem to be something to do with the size of the frame that has the border. If I make it quite small - say half the size of the page then the border prints OK. If I make it any larger then parts of the border start to disappear on printing even though it is nowhere near the print margin! -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 4 22:02:59 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqD02-1XiVbs-06-C4H.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:02:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqD02-1XiVbs-06-C4H; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:01:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqD02-1XiVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:01:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqD01-0005C1-OS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:01:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 22F65C19EF7; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i0+enw7YBLkm; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DEE19C19FDB; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:01:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 21CB5C19EF7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d+eOc3EX6950 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DDC7FC19ECB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LqCzR-0007RX-pB for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:01:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:00:19 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1495 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=LpoVgu-XKycBg_GoaIUA:9 a=Z-1QdNxsBo6QVl0npvYA:7 a=gLPYARR_lWnoW32BWTssiFHwgXoA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=unPVo0ivJqerZG4v:21 a=rC6q79HSC8_4EwBx:21 In message <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" writes >In article <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, > Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: >> Is there anything else that I should have done with the border other than >> just copying it into Ovation's !OvnResDir.Borders? No that is all I did. >Before anyone answers, just a bit more information. It does seem to be >something to do with the size of the frame that has the border. If I >make it quite small - say half the size of the page then the border >prints OK. If I make it any larger then parts of the border start to >disappear on printing even though it is nowhere near the print margin! It is true that the technique with borders relies on them being stretched. So potentially you might run out of precision or range of the maths. (Some people use different versions of the Draw module e.g. those who have CC Turbo printer drivers) However it worked for me. I used Sprinter (print to sprite from my web site on my Iyonix). With that it was obvious that the top/bottom of the border would be in the grey. On Windows there was no need to scale to fit. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:03 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqNtf-11cVbs-01-9hA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqNtf-11cVbs-01-9hA; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:40:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqNtf-11cVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:40:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqNte-0000lF-U7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:40:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B9F4C0C01C; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:40:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-4L+e8As-Ij; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 334C6C19D38; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:39:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 52DDFC0C01C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:39:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Wn+2b3csGuT for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EFCEFC0BA6B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:39:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 235178181/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-temporary-group/79.78.172.155/None/rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.172.155 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com X-MUA: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsMFAAIL2ElPTqyb/2dsb2JhbACBUI9nuBOEDwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="235178181" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 79-78-172-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO RiscPC.dsl.pipex.com) ([79.78.172.155]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2009 09:39:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Rob Hemmings (News)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:36:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Bizarre behaviour with borders! Message-ID: <5047242be4rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: References: <504645d388rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a1fc8crhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1496 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: rhnews@dsl.pipex.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b-D4JfsWctgA:10 a=xgAjtY5jqdMA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TroTnvc965aFliQsQGIA:9 a=2U21-fEsslJZNIYRxAIA:7 a=fSiXThp9PB1q75Z4V-fVaGVDT2MA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=pYZwsVK1C2zvsArL:21 a=IEQ3uThfIVpSb5db:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5046c660aerhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, "Rob Hemmings (News)" > writes > >In article <5046c486fdrhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) > > wrote: > >> Is there anything else that I should have done with the border other > >> than just copying it into Ovation's !OvnResDir.Borders? > No that is all I did. > >Before anyone answers, just a bit more information. It does seem to > >be something to do with the size of the frame that has the border. If > >I make it quite small - say half the size of the page then the border > >prints OK. If I make it any larger then parts of the border start to > >disappear on printing even though it is nowhere near the print margin! > It is true that the technique with borders relies on them being > stretched. So potentially you might run out of precision or range of > the maths. > (Some people use different versions of the Draw module e.g. those who > have CC Turbo printer drivers) > However it worked for me. I used Sprinter (print to sprite from my web > site on my Iyonix). With that it was obvious that the top/bottom of the > border would be in the grey. On Windows there was no need to scale to > fit. I think the answer must be something to do with the maths as the corners always print OK even though they are just as near to the edges of the paper as the lines. Could it be my version of the Draw module that is different? On my RiscPC (RISC OS 4.02), I have: Drawing Module 1.10, Drawfile 1.48 and !Draw 1.12 while on my Iyonix (RISC OS 5.11) I have Drawing Module 1.17, Drawfile 1.52 and !Draw 1.13. If it could be one of these then which is most likely and can anyone suggest where I can obtain an alternative to try? -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hemmings Southport rhnews@dsl.pipex.com To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:08 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqTJX-1gd000-06-Cno.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqTJX-1gd000-06-Cno; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:27:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqTJX-1gd000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:27:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqTJX-0003EX-5X for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:27:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85024C162BC; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:27:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y3MuXFrPK5Y7; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 475A6C19006; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1277DC162BC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xLgg7K1P5BSd for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDDDBC12B25 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.150.240.244] (helo=barryix.barryix.my.home) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LqTIv-0004aC-Fp for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:26:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:26:24 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [78.150.240.244] X-archive-position: 1497 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: barry@e-allen.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=P_pdjOXCUYgA:10 a=PRz41yaJm_IA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tL5unWoCffkLkQHeJD8A:9 a=OAew4JnpDThX0NcR7b8A:7 a=KI37fylz_0JMjy-W03OKW3pkO7UA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Hi Folks, I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being underlined in Ovation Pro? -- Barry A. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:08 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqTds-0WIknw-07-CTT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqTds-0WIknw-07-CTT; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:48:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqTds-0WIknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:48:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqTdr-0004oa-KY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:48:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12478C19E35; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:48:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tVEGETelR-Kr; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC90CC19DA5; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:47:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 19CE8C19E35 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:47:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97E7EmpJ3rf4 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail13.bluewin.ch (mail13.bluewin.ch [195.186.18.62]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1F07C19D09 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:47:36 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[83.77.166.214] Epoch[1238942855] Received: from [83.77.166.214] ([83.77.166.214:7992] helo=ACER.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail13.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.36 r(27513/27514)) with ESMTP id AE/78-25818-684C8D94; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:47:35 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:47:28 +0200 Message-ID: <202c464750.janvred@janvredenburch.bluewin.ch> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-archive-position: 1498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=mH33nz2WkVXIYN6nWZUA:9 a=fV4wkB6O-z69JjQZ-GkA:7 a=UGa6T4ofnxzAjtMRd4QsHePvoboA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=FoqFLg-jeXd22YnN:21 a=rdxoN1ct2Rw0B9ZI:21 In message <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> Barry E Allen wrote: > Hi Folks, > I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being > underlined in Ovation Pro? Certainly. Read the manual chapter 14.6. And via the Macros file you can add a special button on the button bar. Then (de-)activate the underlining of misspelt words. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:09 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqTls-0b2GPo-03-CLT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqTls-0b2GPo-03-CLT; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:56:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqTls-0b2GPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:56:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqTls-00017H-Gy for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:56:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0678CC12774; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:56:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oVD5VW0NMy31; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C157EC15E7D; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:55:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D03CEC12774 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ki73K5xMF2X5 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.4]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DD52C12723 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:55:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Trace: 146995739/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-temporary-group/80.225.57.121/None/lists@stevefryatt.org.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 80.225.57.121 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk X-MUA: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8SAKti2ElQ4Tl5/2dsb2JhbACMHrxuhA8G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,326,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="146995739" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from 80-225-57-121.dynamic.dial.as9105.com (HELO helvellyn) ([80.225.57.121]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 05 Apr 2009 15:55:52 +0100 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:41:12 +0100 From: Steve Fryatt To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 X-Editor: Zap 1.47 (20 Aug 2005) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.28.3 (25 Mar 2005) (32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1499 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists@stevefryatt.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=gJ5NNxTWBZxPCnqg1IgA:9 a=sMiOVOy9fCWAlQ2BGXYA:7 a=M4YK7CgOqJxSyvSILum9u5GteLQA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=2wibAu3JubZLVQjL:21 a=flk4xWuqhqwkAFqp:21 On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: > I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being > underlined in Ovation Pro? View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:11 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqUnC-291knw-06-BK9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqUnC-291knw-06-BK9; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:01:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqUnC-291knw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:01:54 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqUnB-0004Hb-NG for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:01:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D672C18821; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SZCRjOXc-UHB; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E728CC19C8B; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:01:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5A8F9C18821 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ADnTygfufaPc for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF226C154F2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405160117.PEBN4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:01:17 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405160117.YUZA13254.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:01:17 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:00:51 +0100 Message-ID: <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=o8WHMzaCDCSsF9gY_vAA:9 a=-MQPR_1lRgEyo6HdYsKqA2aliywA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=_tAdjSIzo40wxmRA:21 a=KSM4krOJ1wR0yEXB:21 X-archive-position: 1500 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=o8WHMzaCDCSsF9gY_vAA:9 a=d6SiW9AoW8_z8ntPK48A:7 a=mNVkX2GqFKwMk0WpHjsYnknpKz4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=sjIUHoxtAhDGhIOx:21 a=yw4J8MeIcfM6RdVc:21 In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message > <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >> I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being >> underlined in Ovation Pro? > View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. It is a feature I like so I wonder if one can make it a default? From this thread it seems Barry had it as such. Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? Cheers Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:11 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqUx8-1m3000-03-BAD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqUx8-1m3000-03-BAD; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:12:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqUx8-1m3000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:12:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqUx7-0006ie-Hm for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:12:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0D18EC154F2; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:12:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tHN9dsbxSPu3; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8582C19C8B; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:11:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71BDDC154F2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AjdskEZYEQv2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 388D9C127F4 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.150.240.244] (helo=barryix.barryix.my.home) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LqUwW-0005yn-V4 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:11:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:11:26 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <50474ddc4cbarry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [78.150.240.244] X-archive-position: 1501 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: barry@e-allen.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=O7CYem-F8p7BfE6OSd0A:9 a=Nu4R8pRGTCL8M4F8rUcA:7 a=Nn9hDdclvITGHMZIvZX2fsyAuBMA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=LX0-6p2LCfT29iiq:21 a=2xyfKpqat4jiY7Aw:21 In article <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message > <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: > > I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being > > underlined in Ovation Pro? > View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. Mnn.. So obvious. Thanks. -- Barry A. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:12 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqVto-2MFknw-02-ADX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqVto-2MFknw-02-ADX; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:12:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqVto-2MFknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:12:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqVto-0003Pi-CY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:12:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3EFEC18BE1; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id swYD+PRfn+To; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85820C19CCA; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B8F72C18BE1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e4pcRciXxAVq for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49033C18B44 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n35HCBZm004098 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:12:11 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n35HCBV0004097; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:12:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk using -f Received: from 86.12.12.174 (WebMail authenticated user cc16) by webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:12:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:12:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? From: "Colin Carnegie" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.13-1.fc8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1502 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=u0zXV3681w38k0EkY0oA:9 a=-b-jOkE6sKtvU9bKkDAA:7 a=WUc-7_UDG446KpeLkG9-H7qpGF8A:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=pE7k9Fb28eVsWqov:21 a=wamP2laKHgBly706:21 Hi > In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> > Steve Fryatt wrote: > >> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: > >>> I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being >>> underlined in Ovation Pro? > >> View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. > > It is a feature I like so I wonder if one can make it a default? From > this thread it seems Barry had it as such. > > Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? Open up !OvnPro (Shift-DbleClick on the app) then open !OvnResDir (ditto)= In it you'll see a stylesheet called 'Default' - make a backup first, then, make any changes to any thing you need there, and resave. I've set things like default backgrounds for new frames in it, as well as the default Bodytext style, and have a stack of other 'standard' styles defined as we= ll. If you want, you can also define what view options are 'on' or 'off' eg guidelines, print margins etc, but in that case I think I found that you have to resave as an OvPro *document* (with the name Default) rather than= a stylesheet. I suspect David will be along to suggest why this might not b= e such a good idea, but it seems to work ok for me... > > Cheers > > Alan > > -- > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpi= lling > Best wishes Colin To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:12 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqVua-1FoVbs-06-ACl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqVua-1FoVbs-06-ACl; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:13:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqVua-1FoVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:13:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqVuZ-0007lI-RN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:13:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62E7AC1899F; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TK7UxeHAESYJ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2ADAAC19280; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:13:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3039DC1899F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QK8nyCwpD1iu for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1012C15437 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom (88-202-206-176.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.206.176]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n35HCqLv023786 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:12:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:12:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <50475379cddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.14) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1503 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=uhYxpLvj6djZh3n2oTEA:9 a=nQ6asGpU4LhntqL17vwA:7 a=FLH8rCmqy3xa2woVkXQSYosAM1YA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=49S9pg5Jij71ah9h:21 a=Bzjgq5O9YAL4utyZ:21 In article <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> > Steve Fryatt wrote: > > On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message > > <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: > >> I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being > >> underlined in Ovation Pro? > > View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. > It is a feature I like so I wonder if one can make it a default? From > this thread it seems Barry had it as such. > Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? > Cheers > Alan Alan, I just edit the Bodytext Style from the default, usually Trinity Medium to Homerton Medium. Edit Style or Ctrl Shift E Make sure Bodytext is hilighted. Click on the Text Button Select the font you want from the menu. OK OK And thereafter, in the document, unless you change it again, or with a different style, you have it. If you want this to apply to all new default documents you'll need to do a... File > Save as default. Dave -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:12 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqVwk-0TBknw-03-AAb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqVwk-0TBknw-03-AAb; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:15:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqVwk-0TBknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:15:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqVwj-0001gt-Ra for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:15:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5F340C18BB7; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48qnGhpMnUTk; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 18025C19D01; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:15:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E6125C18BB7 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hRF4AdMEYzXR for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f163.google.com (mail-ew0-f163.google.com [209.85.219.163]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92358C18B6B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so1422050ewy.34 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.111.17 with SMTP id j17mr2235713ebc.13.1238951712549; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Iyonix.Ian.Hartley.sky.com (5ad7c024.bb.sky.com [90.215.192.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm5474396eyh.11.2009.04.05.10.15.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ian J Hartley X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:15:01 +0100 Message-ID: <8cae534750.Ian@Ian.Hartley.sky.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1504 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ian.hartley@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=fKgPPcxLAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=tZabdaCwsFeRe8d8OU4A:9 a=zG3P9ZWUvDVjsD9vSlkA:7 a=zTj4ELWYObkhW2cOyvnw7w9OaDYA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 In message <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? Select the font you want in a blank document and then File > Save as default. -- Ian J Hartley http://ianhartley.drobe.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:14 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqXQH-16lVbs-03-8h4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqXQH-16lVbs-03-8h4; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqXQH-16lVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqXQH-0007Ni-8l for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9FB4C19CA2; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39EDEjC-h5OU; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8CB35C19A94; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:49:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CCD28C19CA2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nbeWiLinkPEz for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 59076C19C76 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405184949.UPBZ4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:49:49 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405184949.LCWA2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:49:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:49:21 +0100 Message-ID: <82515c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <50475379cddave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <50475379cddave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=wKsxmCy14C7FwYAXoY0A:9 a=BJEnKdSAe6Vi6arx3IZIgpAVjzMA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=pZlPTSvkHIyLnpE1:21 a=1u0VWSWM9_lgmdzm:21 X-archive-position: 1506 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wKsxmCy14C7FwYAXoY0A:9 a=lVz0ZZrGk_DWUAtbxg4A:7 a=t26uWbsFKJakLrxStKCZhlT9ImEA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=YC1RBKXt9I2NWm8W:21 a=fAogJv3GesHlNVXy:21 In message <50475379cddave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com>, > Dr Alan Leighton wrote: >> In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> >> Steve Fryatt wrote: >>> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >>> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >>>> I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being >>>> underlined in Ovation Pro? >>> View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. >> It is a feature I like so I wonder if one can make it a default? From >> this thread it seems Barry had it as such. >> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? >> Cheers >> Alan > Alan, > I just edit the Bodytext Style from the default, usually Trinity Medium to > Homerton Medium. > Edit Style or Ctrl Shift E > Make sure Bodytext is hilighted. > Click on the Text Button > Select the font you want from the menu. > OK > OK > And thereafter, in the document, unless you change it again, or with a > different style, you have it. > If you want this to apply to all new default documents you'll need to do > a... > File > > Save as default. I dont know what I am doing Dave but this doesn't work for me, Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:15 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqXQH-3Bpknw-01-8h4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqXQH-3Bpknw-01-8h4; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqXQH-3Bpknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqXQG-0007cn-Rl for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41A55C19D1B; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uVXia0JOnwIy; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 05F44C19D8E; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3CC18C19A94 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S+3Tu2KtZG1p for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C3071C19B5C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405184947.UPBK4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:49:47 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405184947.LCVS2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:49:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <8cae534750.Ian@Ian.Hartley.sky.com> In-Reply-To: <8cae534750.Ian@Ian.Hartley.sky.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=E0F6PzzqAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=wLitnzNcEDh2toxt2e8A:9 a=wydFBisEvmJCp5piV3IA:7 a=x7jeXlH1Q3gqiXLR4YwzpQbk8aoA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 X-archive-position: 1505 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=E0F6PzzqAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=wLitnzNcEDh2toxt2e8A:9 a=vhkHDA0PDpCnRpo-3JIA:7 a=0WOoFU2w4GnvWn734RqpoOKmGmsA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 In message <8cae534750.Ian@Ian.Hartley.sky.com> Ian J Hartley wrote: > In message <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> > Dr Alan Leighton wrote: >> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? > Select the font you want in a blank document and then File > Save as > default. Alas doesn't work for me, Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:15 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqXRp-1CSVbs-03-8fW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqXRp-1CSVbs-03-8fW; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:52:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqXRp-1CSVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:52:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqXRp-0007VA-C5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:52:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D51AFC19130; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:52:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7pt0SlCj-GC; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99C55C19CE3; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80CEDC19130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id em1y2V-l12y4 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 03D30C125EF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405185125.OVSH7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:51:25 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405185125.WJO21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:51:25 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jNOsESOdYk6ptzxwJ5AA:9 a=SsR4h9yoSl55sPcBL_IA:7 a=SByypurjxqTx464jrvFrRD-zyPQA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=I254gCH_G6Wbvegy:21 a=eBNFnkRf_PDTzu6X:21 X-archive-position: 1507 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=jNOsESOdYk6ptzxwJ5AA:9 a=PB9Od4UsEuWg2xSRqSAA:7 a=SByypurjxqTx464jrvFrRD-zyPQA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=4OPhzGCEPuz8DcpX:21 a=pL4or1ADvGM2Up7Q:21 In message <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet .co.uk> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: > Hi >> In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> >> Steve Fryatt wrote: >> >>> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >>> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >> >>>> I was wondering if there was any way to stop mis-spellings being >>>> underlined in Ovation Pro? >> >>> View->Options-> (Spelling errors) from the main menu. >> >> It is a feature I like so I wonder if one can make it a default? From >> this thread it seems Barry had it as such. >> >> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? > Open up !OvnPro (Shift-DbleClick on the app) then open !OvnResDir (ditto) In > it you'll see a stylesheet called 'Default' - make a backup first, then, > make any changes to any thing you need there, and resave. I've set things > like default backgrounds for new frames in it, as well as the default > Bodytext style, and have a stack of other 'standard' styles defined as well. > If you want, you can also define what view options are 'on' or 'off' eg > guidelines, print margins etc, but in that case I think I found that you > have to resave as an OvPro *document* (with the name Default) rather than a > stylesheet. I suspect David will be along to suggest why this might not be > such a good idea, but it seems to work ok for me... >> >> Cheers >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling >> > Best wishes > Colin > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling Grief this doesn't work for me. I can not find !OvnResDir Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:02:18 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqZKu-1L9knw-06-FIx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:02:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqZKu-1L9knw-06-FIx; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:53:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqZKu-1L9knw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:53:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqZKs-0004yq-Fy for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:53:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 54497C19D8D; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E+7eM0Y4RRD0; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0FF3BC19B3D; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:52:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 218D8C1958F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylrYtEFcY5lC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 42CF8C19196 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n35KqIRd006117 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:18 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n35KqIdD006116; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk using -f Received: from 86.12.12.174 (WebMail authenticated user cc16) by webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:18 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? From: "Colin Carnegie" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.13-1.fc8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1508 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=hVqA4ely8lfqqciMD28A:9 a=2HoNxU6LqROPXkpcBVoA:7 a=rRI8xK0nbD-CuNLLh9QgaSdkh9wA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=COXf87GgnBi7nwHw:21 a=FOY6JSSl7E9rV4vq:21 Hi > In message <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet > .co.uk> > "Colin Carnegie" wrote: > >> Hi > >>> In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> >>> Steve Fryatt wrote: >>> >>>> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >>>> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >>> [snip] >>> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? > >> Open up !OvnPro (Shift-DbleClick on the app) then open !OvnResDir (dit= to) >> In >> it you'll see a stylesheet called 'Default' - make a backup first, the= n, >> make any changes to any thing you need there, and resave. I've set thi= ngs >> like default backgrounds for new frames in it, as well as the default >> Bodytext style, and have a stack of other 'standard' styles defined as >> well. >> If you want, you can also define what view options are 'on' or 'off' e= g >> guidelines, print margins etc, but in that case I think I found that y= ou >> have to resave as an OvPro *document* (with the name Default) rather t= han >> a >> stylesheet. I suspect David will be along to suggest why this might no= t be >> such a good idea, but it seems to work ok for me... > >>> [snip > > Grief this doesn't work for me. I can not find !OvnResDir I was assuming you were referring to !OvnPro RISC OS - if not, my apologi= es. However, if you *were*, then you *should* have a 'sub-application' direct= ory -'!OvnResDir' - within the main !OvnPro directory. If you don't have this= , I'm at a loss to understand how you've got the application to work at all= , since it contains all the !sprites files, borders, colours and messages files. So, just in case I wasn't clear enough before (and please forgive = me if this sounds at all patronising, it isn't meant to)- hold down shift ke= y, at same time double click on !OvnPro - in the subsequent window, you *should* see a directory !OvnResDir - ditto the above procedure, and ther= e you *should* see the 'Default' stylesheet. > > Alan > -- > To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpi= lling > Best wishes Colin To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:16:53 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqZfg-3ct000-02-EyB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:16:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqZfg-3ct000-02-EyB; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:14:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqZfg-3ct000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:14:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqZfe-0006Wl-5N for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:14:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82BE2C171DA; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:14:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kL-hW4DrdMLt; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4A9E3C19D10; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:13:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3FDBFC171DA for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:13:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ouSdPqJeOMXu for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF151C13039 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405211347.ZOEM4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:13:47 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405211347.MZLL2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:13:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:12:37 +0100 Message-ID: <2c6f694750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=A3sYdvfHQyHquwNKDe8A:9 a=K5lWZ8exv8B7FTDKbjYA:7 a=3xmbr2HBgq0bXq9zlZAlfScEybEA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=KWApGPFkslG4AYUr:21 a=p6abGQdawTwohZcm:21 X-archive-position: 1509 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=A3sYdvfHQyHquwNKDe8A:9 a=STsKsCoi4Vt6QmiiJxIA:7 a=w1qTru3sCIGw1FsYxt_tR2sLJ3UA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=MhG5AdLQB-KOZybm:21 a=iOdg2AfKL7aZqUIR:21 In message <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet .co.uk> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: > Hi >> In message <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet >> .co.uk> >> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: >> >>> Hi >> >>>> In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> >>>> Steve Fryatt wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >>>>> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >>>> > [snip] >>>> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? >> >>> Open up !OvnPro (Shift-DbleClick on the app) then open !OvnResDir (ditto) >>> In >>> it you'll see a stylesheet called 'Default' - make a backup first, then, >>> make any changes to any thing you need there, and resave. I've set things >>> like default backgrounds for new frames in it, as well as the default >>> Bodytext style, and have a stack of other 'standard' styles defined as >>> well. >>> If you want, you can also define what view options are 'on' or 'off' eg >>> guidelines, print margins etc, but in that case I think I found that you >>> have to resave as an OvPro *document* (with the name Default) rather than >>> a >>> stylesheet. I suspect David will be along to suggest why this might not be >>> such a good idea, but it seems to work ok for me... >> >>>> > [snip >> >> Grief this doesn't work for me. I can not find !OvnResDir > I was assuming you were referring to !OvnPro RISC OS - if not, my apologies. > However, if you *were*, then you *should* have a 'sub-application' directory > -'!OvnResDir' - within the main !OvnPro directory. If you don't have this, > I'm at a loss to understand how you've got the application to work at all, > since it contains all the !sprites files, borders, colours and messages > files. So, just in case I wasn't clear enough before (and please forgive me > if this sounds at all patronising, it isn't meant to)- hold down shift key, > at same time double click on !OvnPro - in the subsequent window, you > *should* see a directory !OvnResDir - ditto the above procedure, and there > you *should* see the 'Default' stylesheet. Now I have found it, thank you very much indeed, Best wishes Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun Apr 5 22:31:53 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqZkH-1ot000-03-Eta.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:31:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqZkH-1ot000-03-Eta; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:19:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqZkH-1ot000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:19:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqZkG-0003ox-K6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:19:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 273F9C19D97; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:19:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z2nXYXVAMqwl; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1A07C19D1F; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:18:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 581FEC19D97 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:18:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yA50BK8ubCWt for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5DEFC19D37 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090405211835.SNZC7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:18:35 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090405211835.BDKQ22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:18:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=A3sYdvfHQyHquwNKDe8A:9 a=oO0rZJFQp-6lDDlXr9sA:7 a=qiKNFrsQ5T-oXk2_OOk6ieVi9gQA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=to198OE15CdMUbNq:21 a=YIY851mikDuPeOCi:21 X-archive-position: 1510 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=lYlwcvj8AAAA:8 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=A3sYdvfHQyHquwNKDe8A:9 a=CJoumqn0TqKaQ7GqVcgA:7 a=cotFWeO9nW0pXqTKTqgNi5WpFIsA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=Be76HMpNMDK___Ox:21 a=mnJhwZDwYSVps-G_:21 In message <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet .co.uk> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: > Hi >> In message <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet >> .co.uk> >> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: >> >>> Hi >> >>>> In message <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> >>>> Steve Fryatt wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5 Apr, Barry E Allen wrote in message >>>>> <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk>: >>>> > [snip] >>>> Come to think of it how do you make a font default such as Homerton? >> >>> Open up !OvnPro (Shift-DbleClick on the app) then open !OvnResDir (ditto) >>> In >>> it you'll see a stylesheet called 'Default' - make a backup first, then, >>> make any changes to any thing you need there, and resave. I've set things >>> like default backgrounds for new frames in it, as well as the default >>> Bodytext style, and have a stack of other 'standard' styles defined as >>> well. >>> If you want, you can also define what view options are 'on' or 'off' eg >>> guidelines, print margins etc, but in that case I think I found that you >>> have to resave as an OvPro *document* (with the name Default) rather than >>> a >>> stylesheet. I suspect David will be along to suggest why this might not be >>> such a good idea, but it seems to work ok for me... >> >>>> > [snip >> >> Grief this doesn't work for me. I can not find !OvnResDir > I was assuming you were referring to !OvnPro RISC OS - if not, my apologies. > However, if you *were*, then you *should* have a 'sub-application' directory > -'!OvnResDir' - within the main !OvnPro directory. If you don't have this, > I'm at a loss to understand how you've got the application to work at all, > since it contains all the !sprites files, borders, colours and messages > files. So, just in case I wasn't clear enough before (and please forgive me > if this sounds at all patronising, it isn't meant to)- hold down shift key, > at same time double click on !OvnPro - in the subsequent window, you > *should* see a directory !OvnResDir - ditto the above procedure, and there > you *should* see the 'Default' stylesheet. Thank you Colin I have found the file and in the morning I am sure I will sort it out, Blessings Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 11:51:56 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqhTk-4avknw-06-Fgd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:51:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqhTk-4avknw-06-Fgd; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:34:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqhTk-4avknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:34:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqhTj-0004R7-I1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:34:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 03C95C1901E; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aNQJ1RBSHgF; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BAEFFC181C5; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:34:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9EA85C18257 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CB26nnfAfnbR for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AD1DC18207 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom (88-202-193-67.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.193.67]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n365Xwaa001728 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:34:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:33:48 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.14) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1511 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=HDr22UHrMIxe8MMO8AUA:9 a=u9nX2Y2bKGQN_YuF2n0A:7 a=FxY4aUcSt2ORcXD6pHxC81OHTyUA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=Bg53CgrZTZfQ1K9Y:21 a=jgymWS4ZLZzkY0wH:21 In article , Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet > .co.uk> > "Colin Carnegie" wrote: [Snip] > > I was assuming you were referring to !OvnPro RISC OS - if not, my > > apologies. However, if you *were*, then you *should* have a > > 'sub-application' directory -'!OvnResDir' - within the main !OvnPro > > directory. If you don't have this, I'm at a loss to understand how > > you've got the application to work at all, since it contains all the > > !sprites files, borders, colours and messages files. So, just in case > > I wasn't clear enough before (and please forgive me if this sounds at > > all patronising, it isn't meant to)- hold down shift key, at same time > > double click on !OvnPro - in the subsequent window, you *should* see a > > directory !OvnResDir - ditto the above procedure, and there you > > *should* see the 'Default' stylesheet. > Thank you Colin I have found the file and in the morning I am sure I > will sort it out, > Blessings > Alan But an exceedingly cack-handed method of achieving something that Mr P has put in to the UI to make to process easy. Perhaps Menu- File > "Save as default" was just put there to make the menu look pretty... Click up a document. Edit the Bodytext Style to your requirements. Menu- File > Save as default Dave -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 11:51:57 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqhyM-3kXVbs-07-FC1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:51:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqhyM-3kXVbs-07-FC1; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:06:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqhyM-3kXVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:06:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqhyL-0000qY-KP for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:06:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 11536C19A8E; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:06:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8eULmE4PIsGk; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CBE8FC19C92; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:05:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 90B20C19A8E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:05:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jO5ivEcUabi0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A2BDC199D7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090406060541.VIQE7670.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:05:41 +0100 Received: from iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.1.174.201]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090406060541.OWDO2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:05:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.42 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:04:48 +0100 Message-ID: <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QrkjvhbD7WUA:10 a=GJTvI9m6aW8A:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=Z2sA-w5B69orPBSNjkgA:9 a=X8MCa-8W0N5W4t-IC60A:7 a=rQvc2EYZWjWvOZM5PMKWB_q-LcMA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=fXl1-JTfqI5MyUl9:21 a=WCUj5N-VlLAkAYhg:21 X-archive-position: 1512 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Z2sA-w5B69orPBSNjkgA:9 a=yJfyIKVb3rjuAQisn-8A:7 a=8-s3_AmRR-Hvytwj52W698eqUAAA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=7KfSm3hQz4inZdTD:21 a=r8UWElV_yYkJngOn:21 In message <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > Dr Alan Leighton wrote: >> In message <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet >> .co.uk> >> "Colin Carnegie" wrote: > [Snip] >>> I was assuming you were referring to !OvnPro RISC OS - if not, my >>> apologies. However, if you *were*, then you *should* have a >>> 'sub-application' directory -'!OvnResDir' - within the main !OvnPro >>> directory. If you don't have this, I'm at a loss to understand how >>> you've got the application to work at all, since it contains all the >>> !sprites files, borders, colours and messages files. So, just in case >>> I wasn't clear enough before (and please forgive me if this sounds at >>> all patronising, it isn't meant to)- hold down shift key, at same time >>> double click on !OvnPro - in the subsequent window, you *should* see a >>> directory !OvnResDir - ditto the above procedure, and there you >>> *should* see the 'Default' stylesheet. >> Thank you Colin I have found the file and in the morning I am sure I >> will sort it out, >> Blessings >> Alan > But an exceedingly cack-handed method of achieving something that Mr P has > put in to the UI to make to process easy. > Perhaps Menu- File > "Save as default" was just put there to make the menu > look pretty... > Click up a document. > Edit the Bodytext Style to your requirements. > Menu- File > Save as default > Dave Great it works!! Cheers and thank you! Alan -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 11:51:58 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqjJ7-2wB000-08-DrG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:51:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqjJ7-2wB000-08-DrG; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:31:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqjJ7-2wB000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:31:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqjJ7-0007gM-00 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:31:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63983C150FA; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aC823IBDKPFu; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24973C19C68; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:31:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 463F6C19C69 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xTbmZbhRVPem for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E8E3DC19C68 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom (88-202-193-67.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.193.67]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n367V48f003122 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:31:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:30:57 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <5047a20b2adave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.14) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1513 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=4l0EjIG_Y6UdR2n8ASMA:9 a=feIRa4iY9KmlZ-5mxukA:7 a=FIpo9C4IsZ3l-ULnrN_PiCk5ty4A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=XPJajpwwZPE4dxEM:21 a=5saRYKv9vy0GAX59:21 In article <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton wrote: > In message <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: [Snip] > > Click up a document. > > Edit the Bodytext Style to your requirements. > > Menu- File > Save as default > > Dave > Great it works!! Cheers and thank you! > Alan You are most welcome Alan. Dave -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 11:52:01 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lqkj4-3cu000-03-CRJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:52:01 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lqkj4-3cu000-03-CRJ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:02:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lqkj4-3cu000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:02:42 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lqkj3-0001M7-Q7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:02:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3071FC19B34; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O-m1Fv12xP5q; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E7B15C19CA2; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:02:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5E030C19B34 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YaH58Qw02rd8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 05F80C19A5F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n36924w4013341 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n36924tD013340; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk using -f Received: from 86.12.12.174 (WebMail authenticated user cc16) by webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <63639.86.12.12.174.1239008524.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? From: "Colin Carnegie" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.13-1.fc8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1514 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: colinc@orpheusmail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=WZPdPfmX7vgh4PAvvPwA:9 a=bf26EfjQmsWPNnCbVv4A:7 a=GnPm4TB4OslB9Vv9lSj6O4Dw204A:4 a=M3PvEdNFSBYA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=wk4YQomXMdS29fcM:21 a=OQtphSwwvs8vHT6b:21 > In message <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > [snip > >> But an exceedingly cack-handed method of achieving something that Mr P= has >> put in to the UI to make to process easy. > Thank you... Colin Carnegie To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpill= ing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 13:51:45 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqoHf-0FMVbs-08-8si.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:51:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqoHf-0FMVbs-08-8si; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:50:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqoHf-0FMVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:50:39 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqoHY-0000tN-U7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:50:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A8309C1A0AE; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:50:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6x50HJbzESpq; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F836C1A15E; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66E10C1A0AE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D8VmAsM9+q2t for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (zen.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.18]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 63801C1A009 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dave.nom (88-202-212-149.rdns.as8401.net [88.202.212.149]) by zen.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n36CnYuk007263 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:36:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: How to stop mis-spellings being underlined? Message-ID: <5047be0918dave@triffid.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <63639.86.12.12.174.1239008524.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> References: <5047443e54barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5c99454750.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <0fe44c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63473.86.12.12.174.1238951531.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <85775c4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63959.86.12.12.174.1238964738.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> <0c289a4750.alan@ntlworld.com> <63639.86.12.12.174.1239008524.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/6.14) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1515 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@triffid.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mbktf5B79F0A:10 a=f-ny7TzSZaIA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=CUzElw1UAAAA:8 a=fJ7p51BqAAAA:8 a=Rjyi1bWPAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=Ri3tDdRGOgD5qC7gAOwA:9 a=JFA01iLjQbi60f64YR4A:7 a=bdb6nDAIkV5FV2_nlhYQo-Ju0h8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=EiAL5nLiLjwA:10 a=PuKaCD_GyroA:10 a=t7TOMGraBlzxIsgU:21 a=bNU2Ydc1luC0okMJ:21 In article <63639.86.12.12.174.1239008524.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Colin Carnegie wrote: > > In message <504797516adave@triffid.co.uk> > > Dave Symes wrote: > > > [snip > > > >> But an exceedingly cack-handed method of achieving something that Mr > >> P has put in to the UI to make to process easy. > > > Thank you... You are most welcome, it's very easy to miss options in menus. Dave I guess I was a bit brusque in my earlier reply, lucky old you, as The GM was seriously rattling the cage at the time... The old B... keeps trying to get out, and sometimes, sometimes the task is almost impossible. Sorry! D. -- To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 17:21:52 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqrSu-10P000-07-EDz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:21:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqrSu-10P000-07-EDz; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:14:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqrSu-10P000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:14:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqrSt-0004un-3J for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:14:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93C00C1A512; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:14:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RYczsL8CN0V7; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5E218C1A688; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:13:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C5DCEC1A512 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:13:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id owachKJb+2oG for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2C155C1A227 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:13:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 115.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.115] helo=iyo) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LqrSF-0004tT-P1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:13:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:14:57 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Copy and paste of guide lines Message-ID: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.08) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.94/9206/Sun Apr 5 19:23:11 2009, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-archive-position: 1516 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yIGr_OQAOSIA:10 a=F1AxXgHOFAoA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=bY7JUM3fwSCShH7j5EEA:9 a=7sUeIwNFnK-DNIYyF6gA:7 a=WdO6Ajlbvrd2SBqKWRo6ONfS6OAA:4 a=birkmQ2h4YEA:10 a=iNxG7DD0bgYA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=AQV2QKt343H4SL4X:21 a=IOX9h_fj8GygkQxy:21 Is there a way to paste guide lines? They can be cut or copied but there doesn't seem to be a way to paste them back into a page. At the moment I've resorted to saving as DDL stripping out the relevant DDL code that produces the guides saving as a separate DDL file that can be dragged back into the required page (or master page), but I'm sure there should be a more elegant way of transferring guide lines from one page to another - or from one document to another. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 17:51:53 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqrpS-0zGVbs-04-DrR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqrpS-0zGVbs-04-DrR; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:37:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqrpS-0zGVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:37:46 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqrpR-0005nW-E6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:37:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2373C1A616; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJlwefG-wgEI; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D7E6C1A65E; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E726C1A616 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pN5SuaJTkJ-k for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.146]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 34DD4C1A436 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 13so377950eye.58 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.110.5 with SMTP id i5mr656510ebc.34.1239035829109; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Macintosh.local (5ac334f9.bb.sky.com [90.195.52.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm7085890eyz.29.2009.04.06.09.37.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA2FB3.9080904@ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:37:07 +0100 From: Clive Bonsall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1517 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: cbonsall@sky.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=TlfI_LY2NT5hIq6NzYwA:9 a=-P-X7SvKnNPYBA3x5gUA:7 a=VPbURg6lp9qr7XJjIRbT-nqx3swA:4 a=6UxOEEjT9BUA:10 Gavin Crawford wrote: > Is there a way to paste guide lines? > > They can be cut or copied but there doesn't seem to be a way to paste > them back into a page. Well, you can include guidelines in Master Pages ... does that not do what you want? But I agree it's odd that you can COPY a guideline, but can't (apparently) PASTE it. -- C.B. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 6 22:22:02 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lqw3J-3vE000-02-9da.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:22:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lqw3J-3vE000-02-9da; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lqw3J-3vE000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:21 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lqw3E-0006UC-JY for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:08:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0CB5CC1AA80; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:58:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2QTjsZJ4K3F0; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C06EFC1AAC8; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C6B31C1AA80 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwb4nEsmx2Jb for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 04C9DC1A9BB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LquwK-0006Qm-pA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:57:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:55:58 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1518 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=rTdMPSY1zxbq09u1zksA:7 a=b4Rk6eMBHlnDHAULiYvLX5T0VVkA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=B41hfYR8PSXlEtGv:21 a=RF12b3aaq9FmvJAi:21 In message <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk>, Gavin Crawford writes >Is there a way to paste guide lines? This surprise me. It looks like an oversight, because you can copy them to the clipboard, and the clipboard even displays them, but copying back doesn't appear to work. I would have assumed that copying via the clipboard did work. Drag and drop does appear to let you copy guidelines around a document (that's click drag with alt and optionally shift). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 7 11:43:56 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lqx2d-1UGGPo-08-8eG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:43:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lqx2d-1UGGPo-08-8eG; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:11:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lqx2d-1UGGPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:11:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lqx29-0000AC-9X for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:11:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CFD09C0AA9F; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:58:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALLdf9dLundO; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 92A79C0AC06; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:58:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 59E92C0AA9F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:58:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y9cL8bxVqP3w for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail12.bluewin.ch (mail12.bluewin.ch [195.186.19.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0082BC0B0F7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:55:09 -0400 (EDT) X-FXIT-IP: IPv4[92.106.49.25] Epoch[1239051291] Received: from [92.106.49.25] ([92.106.49.25:54377] helo=iyonix.janvredenburch.bluewin.ch) by mail12.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.36 r(27513/27514)) with ESMTP id 24/CE-27945-A1C6AD94; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:54:50 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1519 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@bluewin.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=23uUUucaPtlqFYmjX3cA:9 a=I5-hteLpFkJnthEWJ1QA:7 a=g5pk4fkIq7RJ7cp5N27DyD_ZBIYA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=MbanxqQO1YkpqXzm:21 a=MClX4Cvo1ygTTN66:21 In message <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> Gavin Crawford wrote: > Is there a way to paste guide lines? I do not think so. I believe the mouse over the Ruler dictates the creation and positioning of a guideline, not the mouse somewhere on a page. > They can be cut or copied but there doesn't seem to be a way to paste > them back into a page. Yes, you can copy. You van even set the distance at which the copy or copies must appear (select guideline -> Menu>Object>Duplicate...) > At the moment I've resorted to saving as DDL stripping out the relevant > DDL code that produces the guides saving as a separate DDL file that > can be dragged back into the required page (or master page),..... A much faster and more elegant way is to activate Rulers (View>Options or ^O). You then click on the Ruler and the guideline appears. An undocumented nicety is that if you click and hold on the Ruler, the guideline is created and selected as well. Then choosing F7 lets you position the guideline exactly. > ........ but I'm sure there should be a more elegant way of > transferring guide lines from one page to another - ......... If the guideline is at the same position on every page, create the guideline on the master page. > .... or from one document to another. Menu>Page>Copy chapter will do this. -- Greetings, JohnvV To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 7 11:43:57 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lqxhe-0zB000-08-GVl.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:43:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lqxhe-0zB000-08-GVl; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:54:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lqxhe-0zB000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:54:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqxhW-0006x7-6z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:54:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DC5AC1BF95; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:38:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TV+yalmds77z; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9C57C1BF82; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:37:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 50AC0C1BF3C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:37:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gMUNYiwDP9R3 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 95878C0FC5D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LqxRN-0007uo-Mx for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:37:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:10:44 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines Message-ID: <5047f29750gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49DA2FB3.9080904@ed.ac.uk> References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> <49DA2FB3.9080904@ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.94/8571/Wed Nov 5 11:25:50 2008, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-archive-position: 1520 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=aA-rkObNAAAA:8 a=E0F6PzzqAAAA:8 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=XOnTBj2Xd0dbcVg_E8cA:9 a=YUlA0sKMahP3JMH_SZYA:7 a=LpJowdouk0SBqjHynQlNygQLN6EA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=yoW3GxOvyaEA:10 a=iNxG7DD0bgYA:10 a=eFmMTfMF8WMA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=YPND1KeO2gna176K:21 a=1QUWHei7laxXIjmc:21 In article <49DA2FB3.9080904@ed.ac.uk>, Clive Bonsall wrote: > Gavin Crawford wrote: > > Is there a way to paste guide lines? > > > > They can be cut or copied but there doesn't seem to be a way to paste > > them back into a page. > Well, you can include guidelines in Master Pages ... does that not do > what you want? I often need to copy guidelines into a Master page, or from one master page to another. If they could be copied back from the clipboard, then the PastePos applet would allow exact positioning of guides in one page to be placed into another - handy when creating complex layouts for books and magazines where you want mirrored master pages that are almost identical except for extra margin space at the grind. The NudgePal applet helps when shifting all the guides and master frames. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 7 11:43:58 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LqxjW-2bgGPo-07-GTt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:43:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LqxjW-2bgGPo-07-GTt; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:56:02 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LqxjW-2bgGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:56:02 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LqxjI-0000an-Lg for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:56:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3A475C13DD5; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:45:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K68gdOM7RxKS; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 01275C0F76C; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:44:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0E3AC1B230 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:44:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWf1k0tcj7zj for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1942C15B22 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 182.115.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.115.182] helo=Iyog) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LqxYL-0004az-RV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:44:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:46:37 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines Message-ID: <5047f5e070gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.94/8571/Wed Nov 5 11:25:50 2008, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-archive-position: 1521 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: gav@crawford-print.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=V9ZE_UWKuCNZLSyflCIA:9 a=LYooCCBWSTZ2Y_DveQoA:7 a=HdL6aqyjtbDhuCAqig3vGnKCt9MA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=iNxG7DD0bgYA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=VoGgWYwhIdzWDns8:21 a=GbQQTOuK7W_0H7rn:21 In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk>, Gavin Crawford > writes > >Is there a way to paste guide lines? > This surprise me. It looks like an oversight, because you can copy them > to the clipboard, and the clipboard even displays them, but copying > back doesn't appear to work. It's been like that for as long as I can remember. > I would have assumed that copying via the clipboard did work. The fact that they are visible on the clipboard, would imply that the original plan was to allow guides to be copy and pasted. It would suggest that the 'Past' code isn't set to handle the same object types as the cut/copy code. > Drag and drop does appear to let you copy guidelines around a document > (that's click drag with alt and optionally shift). So it does! But if 'paste' (from the clipboard) worked, it would open up the ability to use the PastePos applet and multiple clipboards. It was the ability to paste a bunch of precisely positioned guidelines from one master page to another that I was looking for. Not to worry, I've knocked together a quick and dirty little applet that takes a list of horizontal and vertical values and creates guidelines on the current page in the required positions. ... I do love that ddl() function. ;-) -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue Apr 7 12:28:58 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lr9MS-2p5knw-08-DNT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:28:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lr9MS-2p5knw-08-DNT; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:21:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.106] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lr9MS-2p5knw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:21:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lr9MR-0007ia-P5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:21:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3DD62C1AE3B; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yozjMgcJiDtl; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 059CDC1AEB2; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:20:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 252D6C1AE3B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3KToWxVnM9eB for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.132]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E3C6DC1ADA9 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Lr9Lr-0002YX-hQ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:20:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:18:49 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Copy and paste of guide lines References: <5047d20484gav@crawford-print.co.uk> <5047f5e070gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5047f5e070gav@crawford-print.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1522 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QcCKiDEnjQsA:10 a=T9kJ983l6PEA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=D6XM_EnRAAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=qInVw--bF8Mu4uUVu3oA:9 a=ebRHY5ks3SC4iPnW910A:7 a=_jRD66EzM11C56n2f6oaNEhG3e8A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=w55pTu7vmFUA:10 a=6o2WLOscx51w6820:21 a=dYahWkrtg27Ele50:21 In message <5047f5e070gav@crawford-print.co.uk>, Gavin Crawford writes >It was the ability to paste a bunch of precisely positioned guidelines >from one master page to another that I was looking for. I know it is the positioning you want, but for others it is worth noting that drag and drop copy also works between documents. Drag and drop copy/move is powerful and quick, it works for objects, selected text and pictures, within pages, between pages, between documents and between OP and other applications, took ages to implement, and I suspect is rarely used. It is however lumbered with a weird dependency on the shift key which controls if a move or copy takes place. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 8 22:06:10 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LrSTY-2m2Vbs-03-BJP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:06:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LrSTY-2m2Vbs-03-BJP; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LrSTY-2m2Vbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LrSTY-0003CV-E1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D38A4C1D634; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1YeM-aUmvR3y; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9A404C1D84D; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C4CD8C1D634 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F+H9jFhweAeL for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8971DC1CAF1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 87.113.13.243.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net ([87.113.13.243] helo=lab) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LrSSy-0004ZV-6Z for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:45:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Torrens (lists)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:33:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5048a9f499Lists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1523 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=e_lj5ds1aMGiCMflw6UA:9 a=-MztQAYgnoduy31RxYMA:7 a=xKSGOI9gI3oRGZZOdTEe0_zBXnwA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 In article <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) wrote: > Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I > should move !Pluto across to it instead. OT here, but you can run Pluto on the Iyo as a client. Email me off list if useful (or, better, on the Pluto list). -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 8 22:06:10 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LrSTZ-08pGPo-02-BJO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:06:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LrSTZ-08pGPo-02-BJO; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LrSTZ-08pGPo-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LrSTY-0003Cb-Mn for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:45:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36109C1CAF1; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6DaHNYuROKrm; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F23D7C1D84D; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D4DA9C1CAF1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4rqZy4Z+dtXX for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9C2CEC1D606 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 87.113.13.243.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net ([87.113.13.243] helo=lab) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LrSSy-0004ZV-L5 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:45:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Torrens (lists)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:34:55 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1524 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=FrvpURYbAAAA:8 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=RR84mMbQ1hH4vI3BEBEA:9 a=RnXVImlKdlFM_hc_roAA:7 a=7TKqKC17piNQw_bh7aRP8lRBtxAA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=BYExHUmSap6LSRIA:21 a=E6oKp3r-Y9U0Hd1f:21 In article <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com>, Rob Hemmings (News) > wrote: > > Mine are on a RiscPC. Interesting, I also have an Iyonix, perhaps I > > should move !Pluto across to it instead. > Just out of interest why do you still use the Risc PC over the Iyonix? > I also have both but only use the Risc PC when I want to scan with my > SCSI scanner. There are lots of things you can do on An RPC you cannot easily do on an Iyo. Pipedream is significantly quicker on the RPC. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed Apr 8 22:06:17 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LrVT5-2Lo000-01-GqO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:06:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LrVT5-2Lo000-01-GqO; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:57:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.98] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LrVT5-2Lo000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:57:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LrVT5-0001OF-6L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:57:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93A01C1AD47; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:57:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TU4N3zk26vRu; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 55369C1AE9C; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:56:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D2969C1AD47 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:56:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1rpoewz4tuEc for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 801B9C1ACDF for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.148.93.156] (helo=barryix.barryix.my.home) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrVSU-0004z7-0L for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:56:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:56:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5048bc823fbarry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.13) Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [78.148.93.156] X-archive-position: 1525 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: barry@e-allen.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=FQCAaLTdZRWMJGgcXIAA:9 a=ygTBf_Cf30-yMPeTXDMA:7 a=9u0cHSk5-WfLETUFyHZkJnq5eLsA:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=rEUGpi4laRypMinS:21 a=RsnDzo1tSNZabcvI:21 In article <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk>, Torrens (lists) wrote: > Pipedream is significantly quicker on the RPC. Is there a Iyonix version of Pipedream which runs in native mode? -- Barry A. To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri Apr 10 20:51:50 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LsHtJ-2tqknw-07-B2k.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LsHtJ-2tqknw-07-B2k; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:39:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.230] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LsHtJ-2tqknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:39:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LsHtH-0002pN-Ez for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:39:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3A24C21637; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:39:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mQkxrtMDPC+d; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5296BC21514; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:38:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1479C2270E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:38:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WjA3bmbRozPn for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.arachsys.com (alpha.arachsys.com [91.203.57.7]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 98420C226ED for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 87.113.13.243.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net ([87.113.13.243] helo=lab) by alpha.arachsys.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LsHsb-0001eU-9t for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:38:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Torrens (lists)" To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: A file that makes OvPro type=5 then 'filecore in use' Message-ID: <5049d5ff02Lists@Torrens.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5048bc823fbarry@e-allen.me.uk> References: <50462041aatheboss@webmonster.co.nz> <2ea12d4650.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <$wT1ViBudg1JFwS8@pilling.demon.co.uk> <504645fb59rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <50464c1c6cchris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <5046a21785rhnews@dsl.pipex.com> <5046a3d3e4barry@e-allen.me.uk> <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk> <5048bc823fbarry@e-allen.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/5.12) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1526 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Lists@Torrens.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5V6fzoBc3mUA:10 a=tHYoME4HjX4A:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=u-j3lyysAAAA:8 a=Q2MTwp5kAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=ECvyvr3uViF8t7m3RzYA:9 a=ihmJOPGGrvsremAHnhcA:7 a=gIrvWnG87cr8WXGbqGDC8UtWdA0A:4 a=5WZzfXpOq_gA:10 a=Ce41Z_J_UOoi1mnj:21 a=VMo09dsnuasXMp-4:21 In article <5048bc823fbarry@e-allen.me.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <5048aa1429Lists@Torrens.org.uk>, Torrens (lists) > wrote: > > Pipedream is significantly quicker on the RPC. > Is there a Iyonix version of Pipedream which runs in native mode? No. But now you mention it, I believe this was one of the tasks the late PV had on his to-do list. He's a huge loss to us all. -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From ecartis@freelists.org Fri Apr 17 21:07:49 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Lutwr-31E000-08-Ax0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:07:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Lutwr-31E000-08-Ax0; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:42:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Lutwr-31E000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:42:05 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Lutwr-0007gx-5q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:42:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 851A4C26AA4 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VIFtn49lFUIA for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 56DFAC26B38 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 36AB0C26AA4 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28NcfahDZCRq for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 119F9C26826 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freelists.org by freelists.org (ECARTIS/1.0.0); Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager Reply-To: opro@archivemag.co.uk To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Message-ID: X-ecartis-antiloop: freelists.org Precedence: list Subject: davidpilling: opro@archivemag.co.uk post needs approval X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lgL3J84CAv4A:10 a=M0qrUhPgC4AA:10 a=tB6qF7nGytsA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=q46vA8LbAAAA:8 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=7zaclO8BVO_JSRCx9mUA:9 a=uEzAEqyf9auF8Nr3-mwA:7 a=ppCgjYoQez2SU3EvFLBH-DDdb9YA:4 a=vaF4yFaCieYA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=ET_W7WhJQdAA:10 a=qEdfH5B5RdpZsOR2:21 a=al63vpZDnnW9I08Z:21 This message was received for a list you are a moderator on, and was marked for moderation due to the following reason: Non-member submission to closed-post list. 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Ecartis needs it. // apppost 49E8DB8B:7BD3.1:qnivqcvyyvat >From opro@archivemag.co.uk Fri Apr 17 15:42:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D5258C26B38 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wn68KJng-Udu for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.11]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 83191C26F33 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb-87-82-26-96.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.26.96] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Lutwk-0001FV-00 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:41:59 +0100 Subject: how to make heading start at top of page [OPro] To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:36:07 +0100 Message-ID: <61a18e4d50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [yesterday's attempt hasnt appeared here yet, so repeating.] [posted previously in c.s.a.apps. one or two replies suggested that i sign up to this list and try here, so here goes. hello from a new member!] a book i'm producing has many-many headings styled as "heading2". i now want each of them to start a new page. is there any way to do this automagically, in the definition of "heading2" or elsewhere? i know i could find each heading and simply type ^P in front of it to force a new page. but client might not like the result and might want to change back again -- hence my question about doing it in the styledef if possible. someone suggested using chapters, because each would by definition start on a new page. however, that would involve a lot of cut&paste to move stuff from existing big chapters into new little ones -- and, as i said, i might want to go back. someone suggested simply keeping the old file in case we to go back to the present arrangement. problem is that there will be updates to the text in the meantime. i had a hunt through applets and scripts but am no wiser, as a fairly new user of OPro. sounded, though, from general description of what can be done with applets, that it might be poss for an applet to add something to the styledef menu (perhaps a special value in "space before"?) (come to think of it, it would be useful in many situations to be able to specify strings to appear before and after a style.) another possiblity might be to edit the DDL in a text editor and put that ^P before each "heading2". this is a new facet for me in OPro, though i'm used to tinkering with DDF in Impression. i don't even know yet if there would be one DDL file for the whole book or a separate one for each of the present chapters. thanks for any suggestions. -- >>> no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=] Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd (01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861 >> before emailing large files (>1Mb), please ask me for FTP details // eompost 49E8DB8B:7BD3.1:qnivqcvyyvat From ecartis@freelists.org Fri Apr 17 21:07:50 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Luu5d-3TBknw-01-AoE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:07:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Luu5d-3TBknw-01-AoE; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Luu5d-3TBknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Luu5c-0000o5-Kr for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:51:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02112C27357 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gB40N9Ne6j0j for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC5C3C27369 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A796FC27366 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rv-x4Vo8ysQv for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7DC40C27359 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freelists.org by freelists.org (ECARTIS/1.0.0); Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager Reply-To: opro@archivemag.co.uk To: davidpilling-moderators@freelists.org Message-ID: X-ecartis-antiloop: freelists.org Precedence: list Subject: davidpilling: opro@archivemag.co.uk post needs approval X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lgL3J84CAv4A:10 a=M0qrUhPgC4AA:10 a=tB6qF7nGytsA:10 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=q46vA8LbAAAA:8 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=viq6A0jHt_Urh-SIiRsA:9 a=F1OJ_I9UsvOIG5P98bUA:7 a=185uReRrs8ODjUMRt1o76udXOYwA:4 a=vaF4yFaCieYA:10 a=btyeseNR-KIA:10 a=ET_W7WhJQdAA:10 a=KUosQ5_zDjb7zS7M:21 a=wKUX6T52iaheLRMh:21 This message was received for a list you are a moderator on, and was marked for moderation due to the following reason: Non-member submission to closed-post list. 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Ecartis needs it. // apppost 49E8DDAB:22E.1:qnivqcvyyvat >From opro@archivemag.co.uk Fri Apr 17 15:51:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 58AD1C27357 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PFq1dW4y-i8o for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.12]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D8E8C2732F for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb-87-82-26-96.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.26.96] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost2.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1Luu5Y-000DqL-Um for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:51:06 +0100 Subject: how to make heading start at top of page [OPro] To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:50:46 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [yesterday's attempt hasnt appeared here yet, so repeating (2).] [posted previously in c.s.a.apps. one or two replies suggested that i sign up to this list and try here, so here goes. hello from a new member!] a book i'm producing has many-many headings styled as "heading2". i now want each of them to start a new page. is there any way to do this automagically, in the definition of "heading2" or elsewhere? i know i could find each heading and simply type ^P in front of it to force a new page. but client might not like the result and might want to change back again -- hence my question about doing it in the styledef if possible. someone suggested using chapters, because each would by definition start on a new page. however, that would involve a lot of cut&paste to move stuff from existing big chapters into new little ones -- and, as i said, i might want to go back. someone suggested simply keeping the old file in case we to go back to the present arrangement. problem is that there will be updates to the text in the meantime. i had a hunt through applets and scripts but am no wiser, as a fairly new user of OPro. sounded, though, from general description of what can be done with applets, that it might be poss for an applet to add something to the styledef menu (perhaps a special value in "space before"?) (come to think of it, it would be useful in many situations to be able to specify strings to appear before and after a style.) another possiblity might be to edit the DDL in a text editor and put that ^P before each "heading2". this is a new facet for me in OPro, though i'm used to tinkering with DDF in Impression. i don't even know yet if there would be one DDL file for the whole book or a separate one for each of the present chapters. thanks for any suggestions. -- >>> no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=] Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd (01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861 // eompost 49E8DDAB:22E.1:qnivqcvyyvat From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sat Apr 18 20:10:42 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LvFum-0Dm000-08-EYd.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:10:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LvFum-0Dm000-08-EYd; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:09:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LvFum-0Dm000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:09:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LvFum-0005IG-1C for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:09:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78C81C26562; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:09:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AH5x9kNUiEBw; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 28513C21A14; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 90338C271EA for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M0kXqia3pvSI for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net (smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net [212.135.6.11]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4E2FDC271AE for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb-87-82-26-96.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.26.96] helo=Nails.nails.ukonline.co.uk) by smarthost1.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1LvFuA-0002wN-00 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:08:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] how to make heading start at top of page [OPro---] To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Jim Nagel X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.50 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:04:37 +0100 Message-ID: <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/5.12 (MsgServe/3.42) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1527 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: opro@abbeypress.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qQvjzKucHlEA:10 a=ebw1e0PlKNkA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=z6EUak2pAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=1oCe4U3_xkc0zS5wAgYA:9 a=sF_yjWl_yfWgROo7HawA:7 a=A7XTiWGP5LPK9sv9o7569gafh6AA:4 a=I_gfbAeOCg7Owyit:21 a=59XS4-yPv0QgF_2a:21 [this time posting from the correct address!] [posted previously in c.s.a.apps. one or two replies suggested that i sign up to this list and try here, so here goes. hello from a new member!] a book i'm producing has many-many headings styled as "heading2". i now want each of them to start a new page. is there any way to do this automagically, in the definition of "heading2" or elsewhere? i know i could find each heading and simply type ^P in front of it to force a new page. but client might not like the result and might want to change back again -- hence my question about doing it in the styledef if possible. someone suggested using chapters, because each would by definition start on a new page. however, that would involve a lot of cut&paste to move stuff from existing big chapters into new little ones -- and, as i said, i might want to go back. someone suggested simply keeping the old file in case we to go back to the present arrangement. problem is that there will be updates to the text in the meantime. i had a hunt through applets and scripts but am no wiser, as a fairly new user of OPro. sounded, though, from general description of what can be done with applets, that it might be poss for an applet to add something to the styledef menu (perhaps a special value in "space before"?) (come to think of it, it would be useful in many situations to be able to specify strings to appear before and after a style.) another possiblity might be to edit the DDL in a text editor and put that ^P before each "heading2". this is a new facet for me in OPro, though i'm used to tinkering with DDF in Impression. i don't even know yet if there would be one DDL file for the whole book or a separate one for each of the present chapters. thanks for any suggestions. -- >>> no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=] Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd (01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861 >> before emailing large files (>1Mb), please ask me for FTP details To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 20 11:45:28 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LvgSe-0CqVbs-01-DaJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:45:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LvgSe-0CqVbs-01-DaJ; 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Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:25:18 +1200 (NZST) Received: from freja.khnet.nz (203-114-180-66.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz [203.114.180.66]) by mail5.inspire.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BA3DBE83 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:29:30 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Keith Hopper To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:29:44 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: how to make heading start at top of page [OPro---] Message-ID: <504eabb0d3asgard@inspire.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> References: <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-archive-position: 1528 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: asgard@inspire.net.nz Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kEtqwc-i6WcA:10 a=B36Qrp5s_JQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=kEpbSi3lh2V-jixLHmUA:9 a=x6GKD8I7ijXtRyyOHMMA:7 a=Agnvo1j6txrNl5XF_DCru4QCEcwA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=cmYVDa1oFXAV5PGM:21 a=2wSkKOGvkjJFO3xG:21 In article <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel wrote: > [this time posting from the correct address!] > [posted previously in c.s.a.apps. one or two replies > suggested that i sign up to this list and try here, so here > goes. hello from a new member!] > a book i'm producing has many-many headings styled as "heading2". > i now want each of them to start a new page. is there any way to do > this automagically, in the definition of "heading2" or elsewhere? [snip] > thanks for any suggestions. What about menu page -> New Chapter then after/before as desired? Keith -- Inspired! To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon Apr 20 12:00:28 2009 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1LvrCY-2wM000-07-BMv.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:00:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1LvrCY-2wM000-07-BMv; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:58:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1LvrCY-2wM000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:58:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1LvrCY-0003bR-Do for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:58:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D2C23C2634E; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:58:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kDynBZHBeg1f; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84382C25332; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:57:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1CCB9C2634E for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:57:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wm9KrWGX0CUP for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.149]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CC4CAC2634A for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LvrBx-0003Rg-aH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:57:37 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:56:05 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: how to make heading start at top of page [OPro---] References: <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S () X-archive-position: 1529 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kEtqwc-i6WcA:10 a=B36Qrp5s_JQA:10 a=cwSeiBLpj2MA:10 a=lCbXUKvpAAAA:8 a=KFouzN55AAAA:8 a=U7UbAiMzAAAA:8 a=dqhQn4rJAAAA:8 a=D_VmOLqjAAAA:8 a=KYR8n5WlrKKMV4_hvy0A:9 a=Q7_GjTOz2wKUDhjGTs8A:7 a=DJ_kDrEKy_xp8hanUEVDu5bV6ZgA:4 a=CMvcxvSq9gQA:10 a=fP7ZzacFQY8TR1Pw:21 a=ESZYcBtTzsjxGbfI:21 In message <28950f4e50.jim@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel writes >another possiblity might be to edit the DDL in a text editor and put >that ^P before each "heading2". this is a new facet for me in OPro, >though i'm used to tinkering with DDF in Impression. i don't even >know yet if there would be one DDL file for the whole book or a >separate one for each of the present chapters. People often decide that Ovation DDL is just like Impression DDF. The big difference is that DDF only saves text with style information, whilst DDL saves the entire document, text, pictures, layout, everything except view information. DDL does provide one solution, it will only work if you've used your heading2 styles in a limited way. Assuming you have always done my heading then it would be easy to load the DDL into a text editor, and replace with . I've used pseudo HTML markup in this example, you'd have to use the correct OP DDL which should be obvious once you look at your document in DDL format (addstyle, remstyle). If you've used the heading2 more widely then this approach will be a mess. Typically people use styles more than they think - they markup things like whitespace, add styles and delete them, and lay one style over another. Another idea would be a form of DIY markup, for example after each heading put the word "wibble" in 0.1pt transparent text. Then play at search/replace "wibble" with "wibble{newpage}". ISTR that in search/replace OP macro substitution is active so things like {newpage} should work. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 To unsubscribe or subscribe goto: http://www.freelists.org/list/davidpilling