From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 8 21:38:51 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlWJF-2VCVbs-03-AoQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 21:38:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlWJF-2VCVbs-03-AoQ; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:29:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlWJF-2VCVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:29:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlWJB-000575-4L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:29:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48EEA6DC638; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24284-04; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E4B446DC954; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 08 May 2007 16:26:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EB0CC6DC909 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24123-06 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8E74F6DC8E9 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HlWID-000FX5-IA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:28:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 21:26:53 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 390 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner writes >Yes. SparkFS implements an image filing system. The size limit for a >file handled using such a filing system is 2GB. In case SparkFS fails >to check for that limit it is not surprising that there is a crash. Well done Martin. Such large amounts of memory are bandied about these days, I never dreamt there was a limit in there. So if it needs saying there is no checking within SparkFS because I never knew there existed such a limit. Or perhaps I never imagined 2GB files would ever exist. I think I was still on a 40MB hard drive when I wrote SparkFS. >the overall RISC OS limit for file sizes in general is 4GB, so that is >a hard limit. That is less than the RAM (memory) on many PCs. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 8 21:48:51 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlWWJ-3YjVbs-02-AbM.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 21:48:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlWWJ-3YjVbs-02-AbM; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:42:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlWWJ-3YjVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:42:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlWWD-0002Xz-81 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:42:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 71B516DCA02; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25954-04; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 135036DC9E7; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 08 May 2007 16:40:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B65996DC978 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25800-06 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 47B056DC96C for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HlWVH-000DgW-9Y for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 20:41:48 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 21:40:19 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 391 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message , David Pilling writes >In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner > writes >>Yes. SparkFS implements an image filing system. The size limit for a >>file handled using such a filing system is 2GB. In case SparkFS fails Or you could turn off image filing system support in SparkFS... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 8 22:08:52 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlWnt-0sdVbs-01-AJm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 22:08:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlWnt-0sdVbs-01-AJm; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:01:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlWnt-0sdVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:01:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlWns-0006PG-Vo for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:01:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 44A406DC744; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28720-09; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D01316DC7EA; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 08 May 2007 16:58:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA0A96DC744 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28617-09 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6BE836DC701 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 16:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=57151 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HlWnC-0000Dd-4g for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 23:00:18 +0200 Received: from cp326584-a.mill1.nb.home.nl ([84.29.157.167]:1030 helo=arnold) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HlWn9-00033n-Lz for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 23:00:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:45:58 GMT From: Arnold van der Heijden To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Tekst & Uitleg Schaijk User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05S) (RISC-OS/3.71) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 392 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: info@uitleg.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In mailtje schreef je: > In message <6990e4df4e.arnold@arnold.> > Arnold van der Heijden wrote: > > > I wonder how it can be done to get a duotone picture from within Ovation > > for Windows, for example a colour with black and magenta, gets also > > a duotone in pdf. > > I tried al kind of settings but the picture in pdf always is a combination > > of the four proces colours (and not only black and magenta). > > > > Anyone some idea? > > What colour model is the picture in? I tried all kind of colour models. > If you use a CMYK bitmap, then it > should appear as such in the resulting PDF file, at least it does when > using the RISC OS version. But not when using the duotone function in Ovation. > In that case, a pixel that is defined to > consist of black and magenta only will only separate to the Black and > Magenta plate. If you use an RGB bitmap or a JPEG, then you have no > control over how the colours are eventually separated. I experimented with sprites (cmyk, rgb, indexed) but I can't get the duotone in pdf. Not with direct postcript and ignore printer features on ore with printing directly to the adobe pdf printer. Printing a cymk sprite in duotone gives only a black square. Using a duotone from PhotoShop could perhaps solve the problem, but this can only be saved as a psd-file, which cannot be imported in Ovation. And this of course would exclude the duotone function in Ovation (which should give faster results and leaves the picture in it's original state). thanks, -- Arnold Tekst & Uitleg Schaijk Netherlands op www.uitleg.nl Dienblad op www.dienblad.nl / Landerdsite op www.landerd.net Telefoon 0486-463112 / Fax 0486-463537 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 8 22:18:55 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlX5B-1bMVbs-01-A2U.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 22:18:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlX5B-1bMVbs-01-A2U; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:18:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlX5B-1bMVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:18:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlX57-00031U-4k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:18:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 80C6F6D901A; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32046-02-2; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0C84E6D94DB; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 08 May 2007 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 89BFA6DB243 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31726-07 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB4C56DA3A5 for ; Tue, 8 May 2007 17:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HlX3r-000MN4-Gg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 08 May 2007 21:17:31 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:16:24 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 393 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message , Arnold van der Heijden writes >But not when using the duotone function in Ovation. Nick Kaijaks used to tell me I should do duotones in a different way, possibly he meant what you mean (perhaps there is a discussion in the mail list archives). I'm a bit confused because I assume that if you duotone an image in OP, you end up with a PostScript file which looks correct, i.e. the same as it does on screen. However the PostScript does not explicitly say "duotone this image". -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 12:23:23 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlkF5-3Ms000-02-Dvc.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 12:23:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlkF5-3Ms000-02-Dvc; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:21:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlkF5-3Ms000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:21:59 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlkF3-0007mt-Se for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:21:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30FB86DB0D7; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18332-07; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B94C26DB0C6; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 07:19:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 102236DB1B5 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18179-06 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 916036DA9F6 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 07:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070509112114.COTA2739.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 12:21:14 +0100 Received: from trapdoor.kaijaks.co.uk ([86.20.172.234]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070509112114.RNNT219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@trapdoor.kaijaks.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 12:21:14 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [192.168.1.102]) by trapdoor.kaijaks.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390F612002 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 12:21:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 12:21:29 +0100 From: Nick Kaijaks User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 394 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: nick@kaijaks.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <6990e4df4e.arnold@arnold.> Arnold van der Heijden wrote: > I tried al kind of settings but the picture in pdf always is a combination > of the four proces colours (and not only black and magenta). Is the combination you see in the PDF looking like the right colour still? If it's starting with only black and magenta, it probably shouldn't be GCR or UCR that's affecting it. I wonder if it's an ink setup thing (if that exists in OPW)? I seem to recall a similar thing happening years back with a JPEG image inside an artworks file - the artworks file would appear to tint, but the JPEG part wouldn't. Something like that anyway. As an aside, the thing I asked about years back was true duotones. As I recall at the time, OP had a hybrid of monotones and duotones. In a normal monotone, you throw away the colour info of the image and use only the luminosity - effectively treat the image as a greyscale - but then re-colour it, with the level of new tint depending on the level of grey. Often, you add a curve to the relationship so that the tint is not linear with luminosity, eg it could be stronger at the darker end. Sepia print is an example of real-world monotone. A true duotone (or tritone) lets you add other colours in, each with their own curve relating their tint to luminosity. Using it, you can end up with quite subtle colouring. As I recall in OP, you have two different colours as endpoints, and create a single curve between them. It's not as subtle an effect, and not as flexible as a duotone, but it shouldn't introduce any other colours either... TTFN, Nick From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 14:03:39 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hllgh-2THVbs-02-CU0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 14:03:39 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hllgh-2THVbs-02-CU0; Wed, 09 May 2007 12:54:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hllgh-2THVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 12:54:35 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hllgg-0001JV-P3 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 12:54:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F21016DCDB0; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27381-06; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8C15E6DCD20; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 08:52:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AE3B16DCE2E for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27255-01 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 098726DCDB0 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 08:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1Hllfy1RHv-0008JZ; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:53:50 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 14:53:46 +0200 Message-ID: <3c1d4ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+iO8+YJclqY2DW15dfv8toptZ8lzflhkkTGca XsUOKqQ8SHBOvDAHO5eP5d5HGYY0Pr+viVJv4Bn8usA0eZopdN YvdexaaWXXH99lsPEKMLBr2Ifg8hZKE X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 395 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message David Pilling wrote: > In message , Arnold van der Heijden > writes >>But not when using the duotone function in Ovation. Ah, now I see. I missed the fact that you were referring to OP's duotone feature (as opposed to having an image that just happens to be duotone to begin with). > Nick Kaijaks used to tell me I should do duotones in a different way, > possibly he meant what you mean (perhaps there is a discussion in the > mail list archives). > > I'm a bit confused because I assume that if you duotone an image in OP, > you end up with a PostScript file which looks correct, i.e. the same as > it does on screen. Yes, but the question is what colour model OP uses to send that picture to PostScript? From Arnold's experience (and from what I see in the RISC OS version) I guess, it ends up as RGB, which is wrong. > However the PostScript does not explicitly say "duotone this image". No, but that is not the problem. The problem is that the colour model of the resulting image should match the colour model of the duotone start and end colours (assuming they use a compatible colour model). If OP generated a CMYK image in case the duotone colours were CMYK colours, then everything would work as expected, so I presume it probably does not (at least my RISC OS version does not). Funnily, I have just been investigating the same thing in ArtWorks recently (when adding spot colour support to PDF export). At the moment, ArtWorks prints Contone sprites (AW's equivalent of duotone) in RGB (except when separating of course) and the same applies to direct PDF export. Up to now I actually thought Contone sprites with CMYK start and end colours would be exported to PDF in CMYK space and there is code in the PDF exporter to do that but I just found out that this code is not used because some other part of ArtWorks supplies RGB colours in all cases, even when the start/end colours are both CMYK. So, ArtWorks and OP seem to work in a suprisingly similar way. ;-) Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 14:33:29 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hlm9A-2YI000-02-C1X.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 14:33:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hlm9A-2YI000-02-C1X; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:24:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hlm9A-2YI000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:24:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hlm7s-0005TZ-Vy for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:22:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1DB6F6DBC02; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00524-02; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9425E6DB474; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:20:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 09:19:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF4BE6DBA87 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32072-08-5 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.69.126]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 06BA36DBD82 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 09:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-37-228.teleos-web.de [87.245.37.228]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88260265C91 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 15:20:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 09 May 2007 15:21:25 +0200 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:21:24 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 396 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> > Frank Watkinson wrote: > > > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I created a > > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. > > Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that > this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessary > anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive > to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need to > do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situation > where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached > external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also > want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. > [snip] IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not advisable to change the partition format) and use !FCFS to backup my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is quite fast and it preserves my filetypes. Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:40:34 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlnID-14z000-06-AsU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:40:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlnID-14z000-06-AsU; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:37:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlnID-14z000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:37:25 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlnID-000176-25 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:37:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 408D86DC898; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09189-05; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C62376DC6C0; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81CD16DC898 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09037-08 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DEB36DC893 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1HlnHV-00006u-MY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:36:41 +0100 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:36:29 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 397 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message of 9 May, Martin Vethake wrote: > In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> > Martin Wuerthner wrote: >=20 > > In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> > > Frank Watkinson wrote: > >=20 > > > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I create= d a > > > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. > >=20 > > Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that=20 > > this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessar= y=20 > > anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive= =20 > > to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need t= o=20 > > do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situatio= n=20 > > where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached=20 > > external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also=20 > > want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. > >=20 > [snip] > IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not > advisable to change the partition format) and use !FCFS to backup > my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is quite fast and it preserves > my filetypes. Looks interesting . Do you know if it will (a) work with RISC OS 5 on an Iyonix and (b) if it will handle images larger than the 2 Gbyte barrier? --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:40:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlnOC-0V4GPo-07-AmV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:40:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlnOC-0V4GPo-07-AmV; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:43:36 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlnOC-0V4GPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:43:36 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlnO4-0002nT-V6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:43:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7806B6DD13C; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10518-04; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 403206DD0E7; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 10:40:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24C3B6DCF19 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10304-06 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.69.126]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D64BB6DCF41 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-37-228.teleos-web.de [87.245.37.228]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85D12AF957 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:42:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 09 May 2007 16:43:13 +0200 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 16:43:13 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <652254e04e.martinv@ucs.de> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 398 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 9 May, Martin Vethake wrote: > > > In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> > > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > > > > In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> > > > Frank Watkinson wrote: > > > > > > > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I created a > > > > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. > > > > > > Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that > > > this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessary > > > anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive > > > to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need to > > > do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situation > > > where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached > > > external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also > > > want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. > > > > > [snip] > > IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not > > advisable to change the partition format) and use !FCFS to backup > > my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is quite fast and it preserves > > my filetypes. > > Looks interesting . Do > you know if it will (a) work with RISC OS 5 on an Iyonix and (b) if it > will handle images larger than the 2 Gbyte barrier? > Sorry, I can't tell. Nick used to be a friendly chap - ask him... (The lastest version I have 1.11e dates back to May '98) Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:40:44 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlnQG-2Is000-05-AkR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:40:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlnQG-2Is000-05-AkR; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:45:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlnQG-2Is000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:45:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlnQB-0001S3-0n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:45:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E522F6DD100; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10992-04; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 765176DD0F6; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 10:43:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 20B2B6DD100 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10838-07 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.philipnet.com (illyria.philipnet.com [80.68.90.105]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B0226DCFEE for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.philipnet.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 15B75D4133; Wed, 9 May 2007 14:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 194.34.223.1 ([194.34.223.1]) by illyria.philipnet.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:44:45 +0000 Message-ID: <20070509144445.d86vswf68cwswsww@illyria.philipnet.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 14:44:45 +0000 From: To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 399 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philip@philipnet.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Quoting Tim Powys-Lybbe : > In message of 9 May, Martin Vethake wrote: > >> In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> >> Martin Wuerthner wrote: >> >> > In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> >> > Frank Watkinson wrote: >> > >> > > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I created = a >> > > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. >> > >> > Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that >> > this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessary >> > anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive >> > to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need to >> > do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situation >> > where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached >> > external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also >> > want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. >> > >> [snip] >> IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not >> advisable to change the partition format) and use !FCFS to backup >> my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is quite fast and it preserves >> my filetypes. > > Looks interesting . Do > you know if it will (a) work with RISC OS 5 on an Iyonix and (b) if it > will handle images larger than the 2 Gbyte barrier? It will not work with RISC OS 5; it is not 32-bit compatible and does =20 not support the new filecore format (the one used in RISC OS 4 and 5). Parts of the code used in FCFS were also used in Disc Doctor from =20 Oregan and the code cannot be released - I have asked in the past =20 about this. However, I have a vague recollection that Dave Ruck has worked on a =20 program that works in a similar way and does support the new filecore =20 format used in RISC OS 4 and 5. Phil L. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:40:52 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hlnb1-1R9knw-03-AZg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:40:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hlnb1-1R9knw-03-AZg; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:56:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hlnb1-1R9knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:56:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hlnay-0007cR-1L for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:56:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E31F66DD0B1; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12937-05; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F9FF6DCF8A; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 10:54:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8ECA46DCECF for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12688-02 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 299CE6DCFBF for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1Hlna62c6C-0006ut; Wed, 09 May 2007 16:55:55 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 16:57:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/zYbPrdf3Ga9oaMUB+qMCJiMKSsF/byvXGH3Z fCOax6mWEob+brbJhaZtdseVzJfWGR5sberUW2kVxC4cXp9Vwb zGnfdKfeoiKfAObkmHohOOrDx49Dgsb X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 401 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> Martin Vethake wrote: > In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > >> In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> >> Frank Watkinson wrote: >> >> > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I created a >> > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. >> >> Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that >> this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessary >> anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive >> to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need to >> do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situation >> where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached >> external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also >> want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. >> > [snip] > IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not > advisable to change the partition format) Franke wrote "external USB hard drive", so it is not a USB stick and not Flash. Nevertheless, I cannot see his problem - either, the hard drive is directly attached via USB and DOS formatted, then it is limited to 2GB anyway, so even if SparkFS could create larger Zip files it would not have helped. Or, the drive is RISC OS formatted or it is is attached via the network, then the filetypes are preserved even without zipping. > and use !FCFS to backup my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is > quite fast and it preserves my filetypes. FCFS used to be nice, but Frank is on RISC OS 5, so it is of no use. Besides, if the problem is that the overall data is larger than 2GB, then it will not help anyway. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:40:54 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hlngv-0x9000-07-ATm.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:40:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hlngv-0x9000-07-ATm; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:02:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hlngv-0x9000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:02:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hlnat-0007Qg-7s for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 14:56:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E28566DD04A; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12937-01; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 81DEE6DD0A8; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 10:54:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 32F626DCF3D for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12655-07 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDE296DCF28 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1Hlna60zbj-0006ut; Wed, 09 May 2007 16:55:54 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 16:51:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/PBsu6XDm4a0MbRa3FpooF6Zdy0qMnT5I8Xw4 kuYIsufrZQ2XBvVsNhM8p+7nHWhOirFMul+ei18HIq/zU51Hto x1kXpRz/LXR/yxj+wY309l2xdA3ozoV X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 400 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Looks interesting . Do > you know if it will (a) work with RISC OS 5 on an Iyonix It is not Iyonix compatible, which should not come as a surprise considering its age (the version at the above location is from 1997). > and (b) if it will handle images larger than the 2 Gbyte barrier? How could it? It is an image filing system, so the same limits apply as to SparkFS. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:41:04 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hlnso-3caknw-06-AHt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:41:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hlnso-3caknw-06-AHt; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:15:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hlnso-3caknw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:15:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hlnsk-0001In-5u for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 15:15:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65EAF6DD152; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16308-03; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F00C66DD173; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 11:12:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EAEFC6DD152 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16178-06 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.69.126]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC4796DD119 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-37-228.teleos-web.de [87.245.37.228]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C3B29280A for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:14:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 09 May 2007 17:15:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 17:15:04 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 402 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> > Martin Vethake wrote: > > > In message <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> > > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > > >> In message <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> > >> Frank Watkinson wrote: > >> > >> > While aiming to make backup to an external USB hard drive, I created a > >> > Zip file so that filetypes would be preserved. > >> > >> Using SparkFS? Does that not take ages? I do not really think that > >> this approach is sensible. But I cannot see why it should be necessary > >> anyway. Would it not be easier to format your external USB hard drive > >> to RISC OS format? Actually, if it is bigger than 2GB you will need to > >> do that anyway to make use of its size. So, I cannot see any situation > >> where that would make sense unless you have a directly attached > >> external FAT-formatted USB hard drive with 2GB or less that you also > >> want to use on a non-RISC OS machine and that seems very unlikely. > >> > > [snip] > > IMHO I'd rather leave the USB stick alone (if it is flash it is not > > advisable to change the partition format) > > Franke wrote "external USB hard drive", so it is not a USB stick and > not Flash. Nevertheless, I cannot see his problem - either, the hard > drive is directly attached via USB and DOS formatted, then it is > limited to 2GB anyway, so even if SparkFS could create larger Zip > files it would not have helped. Or, the drive is RISC OS formatted or > it is is attached via the network, then the filetypes are preserved > even without zipping. > > > and use !FCFS to backup my RISC OS stuff. Without compression it is > > quite fast and it preserves my filetypes. > > FCFS used to be nice, but Frank is on RISC OS 5, so it is of no use. > Besides, if the problem is that the overall data is larger than 2GB, > then it will not help anyway. > > Martin I was just thinking it's quite a good idea to use the most popular filing-system but then again You will lose Your filetypes as soon as You touch (copy, move) those files with, say, Windows. I read 'backup' and completely missed the 'hard drive' part. What exactly is the point in making backups on a _hard-drive_ that is mobile but can't be taken anywhere? Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 21:41:24 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HlpsT-0vQknw-08-Gok.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 21:41:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HlpsT-0vQknw-08-Gok; Wed, 09 May 2007 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HlpsT-0vQknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HlpsO-0006qg-Ob for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5E2296DCDA3; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06386-04-6; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1578A6DCCF7; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 13:20:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A1B206DCBE0 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06036-02 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A6706DCBAA for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.92.97.176] (helo=greatest) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1HlprV-0003OQ-CN for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 09 May 2007 18:22:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 18:21:45 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <1ea662e04e.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 403 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: tim@powys.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In message of 9 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: >=20 > > Looks interesting . > > Do you know if it will (a) work with RISC OS 5 on an Iyonix >=20 > It is not Iyonix compatible, which should not come as a surprise=20 > considering its age (the version at the above location is from 1997). >=20 > > and (b) if it will handle images larger than the 2 Gbyte barrier? >=20 > How could it? It is an image filing system, so the same limits apply=20 > as to SparkFS. Thanks, I thought that would be the case so it was right to bring the problem out into the open. --=20 Tim Powys-Lybbe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0tim@pow= ys.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0For a miscellany of bygones: http:= //powys.org/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 22:00:23 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hlt7U-16l000-06-DZj.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 22:00:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hlt7U-16l000-06-DZj; Wed, 09 May 2007 20:50:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hlt7U-16l000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 20:50:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hlt7M-0005hO-PZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 20:50:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 82AF26DCEFF; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15245-01-7; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A4CC06DCF92; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A400A6DAEBF for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14557-02 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 26B366DD014 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 16:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hlt3K-000Hfh-2n for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 09 May 2007 20:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:44:48 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 404 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk>, Nick Kaijaks writes >As I recall in OP, you have two different colours as endpoints, and >create a single curve between them. It's not as subtle an effect, and >not as flexible as a duotone, but it shouldn't introduce any other >colours either... Nick glad to hear you're still with us. So with a true duotone, one could have spot colours as the two end points and just output fractions of them along the way - no made up process colours. OP on RISC OS or Windows will use the colour model supported by the printing system. That means if you print composite via the OS, then all colours get changed to RGB. However if you use direct PostScript (Windows only) then CMYK can be output, and the duotone should not introduce any RGB colours between the end points. On RISC OS CMYK sprites are output direct to PS, and on both platforms separations will print CMYK data. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 9 22:50:25 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hltzj-0q1knw-03-ChU.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 22:50:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hltzj-0q1knw-03-ChU; Wed, 09 May 2007 21:46:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hltzj-0q1knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 21:46:47 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hltzg-0004H0-Ai for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 09 May 2007 21:46:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D1B296DCF31; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23924-06; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 66E3B6DE462; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 09 May 2007 17:43:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 85F496DCF31 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23761-05 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6AD666DE23C for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 17:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1HltyP2uyH-0004D7; Wed, 09 May 2007 23:45:26 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 23:47:05 +0200 Message-ID: <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vDkmLgi/GQkZ/PAYPn/oZv7j1mc7jCfq9Ekv JSIpN45KX/WJ7uZp12X33EwJqnQd9grw+unhVoYe2c1HEse2gi vxTiBVHmX1F4bWodiaWQISVzvfFCOaY X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 405 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message Martin Vethake wrote: > I read 'backup' and completely missed the 'hard drive' part. What > exactly is the point in making backups on a _hard-drive_ that is > mobile but can't be taken anywhere? There are good reasons for using an external hard drive for backup purposes (as opposed to a secondary internal hard drive). Maybe there is no space in the case for another internal hard drive. More importantly, you would not normally attach the backup drive, so there is no risk of accidentally writing to it. Obviously, if you only want the hard drive for backup purposes and not for file transfer to other platforms you would not care whether you can take it anywhere else and read it on a different platform. So, in that case, it is perfectly sensible to have a RISC OS formatted external hard drive. But there is no choice anyway - if you want a directly attached external hard drive with more than 2GB, it has to be RISC OS formatted. I still prefer the idea of having a network attached storage device - that combines all the advantages: Can be any size, is readable from all platforms, retains file types (though not all other RISC OS file attributes). Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:41 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm2Vc-4Xaknw-07-Ci7.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm2Vc-4Xaknw-07-Ci7; Thu, 10 May 2007 06:52:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm2Vc-4Xaknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 06:52:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm2Vc-0005Kl-1n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 06:52:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2069A6DDDA2; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11669-08; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADDAA6DD848; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 02:49:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2D3866DDDA2 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11603-03 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD8A36DDD6B for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 02:49:48 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADpdQkbUSnIMk2dsb2JhbACPegIBAQcIBgcFHw Received: from [88.105.238.162] (port=10066 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm2Ut-0000vG-Tn for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:51:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:38:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 406 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > But there is no choice anyway - if you want a directly attached > external hard drive with more than 2GB, it has to be RISC OS > formatted. I still prefer the idea of having a network attached > storage device - that combines all the advantages: Can be any size, is > readable from all platforms, retains file types (though not all other > RISC OS file attributes). > Martin Sorry this is not directly related to D Pilling software, but directly related to the subject in hand as I use SparkFS to (Uncompressed) Zip archive RO materials to transport via the network to a backup USB drive on the Win PC. I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. I can get an external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB socket, and requires no other external power source. Will this setup function connected to a Unipod? Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the business? Obviously my intention, if it did work, would be to format the drive in RO and backup to that, and save all the work of archiving before transferring to the Win PC backup drive. Cheers Dave S PS: I guess I should be asking STD this question, but as the matter was already to hand... D. -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:46 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm433-3kt000-05-BAg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm433-3kt000-05-BAg; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:30:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm433-3kt000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:30:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm430-0005Eh-58 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:30:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3C3D66DE486; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21274-02-2; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0FE96DE4AA; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 04:28:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8904C6DE485 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21141-04 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5771E6DE481 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm42H-000JB3-M8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:30:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0b40f23john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 407 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 10 May, Dave Symes wrote: > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. > I can get an external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB > socket, and requires no other external power source. > Will this setup function connected to a Unipod? > Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the business? Discussions that I have had with Stuart & Matt @ STD suggest that the A9's power supply is dictated by the need to provide sufficient to meet the requirements of the 4 USB ports. I've every reason to suppose that the equivalent holds for the Unipod so it may boil down to whether the device is taking no more than the specification for USB allows. If you want to be certain that the figures match then e-mail Matt directly. -- John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:47 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm4AG-0Brknw-04-B3T.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:47 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm4AG-0Brknw-04-B3T; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:38:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm4AG-0Brknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:38:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm4AF-0005It-1e for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:38:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 038946DE499; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21761-09; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9829F6DE4E1; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 04:35:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A91286DE499 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21676-05 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76B9A6D474D for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charleshope.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.79] helo=iyonix) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm49Y-0006l7-FJ for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:37:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: charles To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:37:37 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 408 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. > I can get an external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB > socket, and requires no other external power source. > Will this setup function connected to a Unipod? > Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the business? One thing to bear in mind is that these devices sometimes have two USB connectors to get sufficient power into the unit (I assume some form of current limiting on individual ports). You will need to ensure that you have 2 spare ports. -- >From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:49 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm4K4-3zX000-08-Atf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm4K4-3zX000-08-Atf; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:48:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm4K4-3zX000-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:48:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm4K4-00076s-K4 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:48:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 928D86DC324; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23139-05; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 00D8D6DD308; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C5A96DCD81 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22996-03 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37FE26DC02C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [82.69.6.223] (helo=[192.168.0.9]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hm4JM-0006vS-8g for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:47:44 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:38:17 +0100 From: Ray Dawson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> Mail-Followup-To: davidpilling@freelists.org X-Organization: MagRay User-Agent: Gemini/2.28n (Qt/3.3.8) (Windows-XP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.69.6.223] X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 409 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ray@raydawson.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Dave Symes wrote: > > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. I can get an external 2.5 > inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB socket, and requires no > other external power source. Will this setup function connected to a > Unipod? Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the > business? I tried just that and the answer is NO. I've got a Hitachi 2.5" drive is a small USB case, which works fine on my PC, but doesn't on the Risc PC with Unipod. As the drive tries to spin up, the LED on the drive case goes out, which means there isn't enough power coming from the USB socket on Unipod. The standard is 1/2 amp, but it seems not in this case. Cheers, Ray D From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:51 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm4UD-2uqknw-02-AjW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm4UD-2uqknw-02-AjW; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm4UD-2uqknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm4U8-0000SJ-MV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C9E9F6DE57F; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24592-06-2; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6AD8F6DE577; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A6CA6DE505 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24217-07 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net (outmail1.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.237]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B91D06DE45C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wallace (i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net [195.137.110.177]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4755111F for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:58:02 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:58:05 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 410 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bric@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin > Wuerthner wrote: > > But there is no choice anyway - if you want a directly > > attached external hard drive with more than 2GB, it has to > > be RISC OS formatted. I still prefer the idea of having a > > network attached storage device - that combines all the > > advantages: Can be any size, is readable from all > > platforms, retains file types (though not all other RISC OS > > file attributes). > > Martin > Sorry this is not directly related to D Pilling software, but > directly related to the subject in hand as I use SparkFS to > (Uncompressed) Zip archive RO materials to transport via the > network to a backup USB drive on the Win PC. I use exactly the same idea: my backup drive is a 320Gb external Toshiba on the PC/USB but with its own PSU. The drive has 3 partitions: 2 are NTFS for the PC and laptop backups (Using Acronis TruImage) and the 3rd is FAT32 for the zipped RISC OS backups. The problem is that everything is so slow! > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. I can get an > external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB > socket, and requires no other external power source. Will this > setup function connected to a Unipod? Put another way... > Does the Unipod have enough power to do the business? The UNIpod USB can supply a maximum of 0.5A, a limitation of the podule bus I believe, which is probably too little for the hard drive you have your eye on. In any case you presumably are hoping to get the drive to work with MassFS. Mine doesn't :-( > Obviously my intention, if it did work, would be to format the > drive in RO and backup to that, and save all the work of > archiving before transferring to the Win PC backup drive. Yes, that would be splendid, but don't forget that RISC OS USB is v1.1, not the 2.0 of the drive. Anyway, how are you going to do the re-format? > PS: I guess I should be asking STD this question, but as the > matter was already to hand... D. They won't be able to tell you unless it is a drive they happen to have used. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:53 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm4YW-3G5knw-02-AfD.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm4YW-3G5knw-02-AfD; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:24 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm4YW-3G5knw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:24 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm4YV-0007lV-GE for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 03A366DE532; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25032-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 94F346DE537; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 04:59:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC9686DE532 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24919-09 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1E99A6DE530 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:59:51 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALR7QkbUSnINk2dsb2JhbACPegIBAQcGCAcFHw Received: from [88.105.151.96] (port=10430 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm4Wk-000JfR-5n for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:01:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:01:15 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0b8a9b9dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 411 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>, charles wrote: > In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > > > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. I can get an external 2.5 > > inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB socket, and requires > > no other external power source. Will this setup function connected > > to a Unipod? Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to > > do the business? > One thing to bear in mind is that these devices sometimes have two USB > connectors to get sufficient power into the unit (I assume some form of > current limiting on individual ports). You will need to ensure that you > have 2 spare ports. I think you are right, it does seem to require two USB ports. It's a device aimed at Laptop etc users for backup, so I would assume/hope the power requirement would be low. Cheers Dave S PS: If anyone is interested. http://www.novatech.com product code: NOV-ND280 D. -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:49:53 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm4fG-2DYknw-04-AYT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:49:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm4fG-2DYknw-04-AYT; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm4fG-2DYknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm4fF-00072Z-Ty for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E264C6DE542; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25665-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 857B06DD64C; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 05:07:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BF2CF6DE542 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25553-08 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2AB096DE540 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:07:53 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAp+QkbUSnINk2dsb2JhbACPegIBAQcGCAcFHw Received: from [88.105.151.96] (port=10443 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm4eW-000McN-Ag for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:09:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:09:34 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 412 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: [Snippy useful input... thanks] > Yes, that would be splendid, but don't forget that RISC OS USB is > v1.1, not the 2.0 of the drive. Anyway, how are you going to do > the re-format? That is something I was wondering about, just how do you format a USB drive as RO... I obviously haven't tried it yet, but I was wondering... If it could be formatted RO connected to the Win PC and via VRPC? > > PS: I guess I should be asking STD this question, but as the > > matter was already to hand... D. > They won't be able to tell you unless it is a drive they happen > to have used. I have sent STD an email I'll report back if I get a useful answer. It is a small external HD aimed at Laptop etc users... See my reply to Charles for URL and product code. > Brian. Thanks Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:50:01 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm6lg-2hpGPo-07-GyZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:50:01 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm6lg-2hpGPo-07-GyZ; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:25:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm6lg-2hpGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:25:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm6lf-0004v1-Qf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:25:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DBF866DD485; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06572-05; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7EEB16DD0AD; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 07:22:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 01D636DD6D6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06406-05 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C573E6DD586 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 07:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from watsnees.demon.co.uk ([80.177.152.227] helo=panther) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm6kx-000Hc9-2V for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:24:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Frank Watkinson To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:23:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 413 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: frank@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com>, > Brian Carroll wrote: > [Snippy useful input... thanks] > > Yes, that would be splendid, but don't forget that RISC OS USB is [Snip] > That is something I was wondering about, just how do you format a > USB drive as RO... I obviously haven't tried it yet, but I was > wondering... If it could be formatted RO connected to the Win PC > and via VRPC? [Snip] > > Brian. > Thanks > Dave S Thank you all very much for your contributions to this thread; (with the exception of the invasion of the thread by "duotone pictures in pdf".) Dave Symes' thoughts in the paragraph which I have left un-snipped above, would provide a useful solution, it it was a possible one. Is it possible to create (say) three NTFS partitions and one RISC OS partition on a USB connected external drive? That seems like one big hurdle to me. Thanks again. Frank. -- Frank Watkinson. email: Using !Pluto 3.04c on Iyonix 5.10. Still RPC-SA (4.39 Adjust) for some things. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 13:50:05 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm7VE-3Kr000-07-GF1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:50:05 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm7VE-3Kr000-07-GF1; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:12:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm7VE-3Kr000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:12:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm7VD-00055Q-IF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:12:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 17AAA6DE4FD; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11910-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99B536DE4EA; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B27CE6DE4FD for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11774-08 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 54BD46DE4DD for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1Hm7UT2YA8-00045K; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:25 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:12:46 +0200 Message-ID: <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX196vPflxn+sP7hPnmSNg9nwkGuZv2dVq6cL6Ou mxZNGvThH3l6qFgKPqo8DuzpzxMc/InbHPcXdDmeNuGstQqnAE LwAVLEpMbvqC5HIRq6AYyjGxLTFLzA1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 414 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> Frank Watkinson wrote: > In article <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net>, > Dave Symes wrote: > >> That is something I was wondering about, just how do you format a >> USB drive as RO... If the drive is attached to an Iyonix, you use Castle's SCSIForm formatter (it is likely that this works with the Castle USB podule as well). I do not think other interfaces (Simtec USB/UniPod) support RISC OS formatted devices at all, but you can tell: If they do you should have received a special formatter from the vendor. >> I obviously haven't tried it yet, but I was wondering... If it could >> be formatted RO connected to the Win PC and via VRPC? No, definitely not. VRPC does not emulate USB ports, so the emulated copy of RISC OS has no chance of seeing the device. Of course, you can access external USB hard discs using VRPC by mapping them in using HostFS, but then Windows handles the device. > Is it possible to create (say) three NTFS partitions and one RISC OS > partition on a USB connected external drive? That seems like one big > hurdle to me. No. I think we are rapidly digressing from anything even remotely on topic for this list so I suggest posting further questions elsewhere (e.g., comp.sys.acorn.misc or comp.sys.acorn.hardware). Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:08:38 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8GH-30qknw-04-FTy.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:08:38 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8GH-30qknw-04-FTy; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8GH-30qknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8GH-0007Co-1U for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E492D6DCF7A; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18795-01; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DCDA6DCFB5; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37B516DCD80 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18647-09 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F2D776DCBE6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 08:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm8FZ-0005Ip-Ci for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:59:04 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 415 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner writes Is there such a thing as a USB hub with the ability to supply power itself. If so that might be a solution to your problems. Similarly if you have a drive with two USB connectors maybe there is something like a stand alone power supply with a USB connector on. Relevant to this discussion but a bit late, I've long used standard hard discs in cradles as a means of shifting data about. Just about when the SyJet, Iomega Jazz etc. removable discs came out, it became apparent that a hard disc in cradle was as cheap. So back up to hard disc is sensible. As to going off topic - maybe we should turn this into a vets discussion list. You know what we are doing PA (after Acorn). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:08:39 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8J6-4cjknw-03-FR9.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:08:39 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8J6-4cjknw-03-FR9; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:03:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8J6-4cjknw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:03:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8J3-00059k-EI for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:03:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3AF0C6DD0FC; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19353-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D11386DD11B; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 09:01:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 110936DDEE2 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27434-06 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.orcon.net.nz (loadbalancer2.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.4]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BC0516DDBA3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 05:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Debian-exim by mx2.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm4ur-0006Oh-8H for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:26:29 +1200 Received: from [60.234.184.59] (helo=mysteriousmrf.my.home) by mx2.orcon.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm4uq-0006O4-U2 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:26:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Greenfield To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:14:37 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] A bug to crash OvPro (on RISC OS) Message-ID: <4ee0b464d1monster@caverock.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-DSPAM-Check: by mx2.orcon.net.nz on Thu, 10 May 2007 21:26:29 +1200 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu May 10 21:26:29 2007 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.7724 X-DSPAM-Improbability: 1 in 340 chance of being spam X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 417 X-Approved-By: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: monster@caverock.net.nz Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Hi, I have found a bug which crashes OvationPro with a type 5 error. It is not a terribly sensible thing to do, but from the iconbar menu select New... and then choose a foolish number of columns. If you choose more than 12 on an A4 page you get the error and OvationPro quits. It also quits with 12 or more on an A3 page. My son and I found it out when we were being a bit silly... OvPro 2.77 19 March 2007 on SARPC RO4.39 regards, -- Robert Greenfield Webmonster. RISC OS and Acorn solutions. - http://www.webmonster.co.nz/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:18:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8QE-0pHVbs-07-FK1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:18:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8QE-0pHVbs-07-FK1; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:11:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8QE-0pHVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:11:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8HZ-0002lm-VN for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:02:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 186A96DCEBE; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18936-06; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A3B636D83A4; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 08:59:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3380A6DE33D for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24043-02 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CE4886DE32C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 04:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4A8tMLf021864 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:55:22 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l4A8tLJn021863; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:55:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk using -f Received: from 194.106.46.76 (WebMail authenticated user bd39) by webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:55:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:55:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? From: "Andrew Conroy" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.8-4.fc6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 416 X-Approved-By: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2007 9:37 am, charles wrote: > In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, > Dave Symes wrote: >> > >> I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. >> I can get an external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the >> USB socket, and requires no other external power source. >> Will this setup function connected to a Unipod? >> Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the busines= s? > > One thing to bear in mind is that these devices sometimes have two USB > connectors to get sufficient power into the unit (I assume some form of > current limiting on individual ports). You will need to ensure that yo= u > have 2 spare ports. Another, somewhat more limiting factor, is that the UniPod (well, !MassFS= , to be precise) will only cope with external hard drives up to 2GB in size= , due to the limits imposed by DOSFS in RISC OS. Andrew --=20 Andrew Conroy (via Webmail) From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:18:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8RQ-14qVbs-03-FIp.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:18:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8RQ-14qVbs-03-FIp; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:12:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8RQ-14qVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:12:20 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8RP-0005hZ-Po for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9ECA26DD80F; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20550-04-2; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 643C96DD7CF; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 09:09:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB89D6DD099 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19544-03 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.90]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 452716DCF3C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (avon.orpheusnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4AD5HJG022627 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:05:17 +0100 Received: (from apache@localhost) by avon.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l4AD5HDa022626; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:05:17 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: avon.orpheusnet.co.uk: apache set sender to a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk using -f Received: from 194.106.46.76 (WebMail authenticated user bd39) by webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:05:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <50377.194.106.46.76.1178802317.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:05:17 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? From: "Andrew Conroy" To: davidpilling@freelists.org User-Agent: OrpheusWebMail/1.4.8-4.fc6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 418 X-Approved-By: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: a.m.conroy@owlart.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2007 1:59 pm, David Pilling wrote: > In message <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner > writes > > Is there such a thing as a USB hub with the ability to supply power > itself. If so that might be a solution to your problems. Similarly if > you have a drive with two USB connectors maybe there is something like = a > stand alone power supply with a USB connector on. Yes, it is certainly possible to use so-called "self-powered" USB hubs rather than "bus powered" ones. It is also possible to buy plug-in PSUs with a USB socket on them to power USB type devices (also useful for item= s which are rechargeable, which simply plug in to a USB socket for their power). Andrew --=20 Andrew Conroy (via Webmail) From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:18:50 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8UE-1p0Vbs-02-FG1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:18:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8UE-1p0Vbs-02-FG1; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:15:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8UE-1p0Vbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:15:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8U7-0007E6-Et for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:15:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6A8046DD9D5; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21132-07; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F11736DDCE4; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 09:12:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37B8C6DD9D5 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20879-03 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D394F6DD764 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1Hm8TG3EHB-0004Jb; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:14:15 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:11 +0200 Message-ID: <33e9cfe04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19xMKa14sPaHd9wQe45uGALJ4STsSj1e/utZBF SXTp6bem8n6faUAYZFGiqxURmPexJrkLUF4BRsYUkVQR1x8GE/ Qg2ZjxywXqBTAUX0Fl65LHEqx3YKeT3 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 419 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message David Pilling wrote: > In message <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner > writes > > Is there such a thing as a USB hub with the ability to supply power > itself. Yes, lots of them. > As to going off topic - maybe we should turn this into a vets discussion > list. You know what we are doing PA (after Acorn). Or rather PR (after RISC OS) since we are well in the PA era... Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:28:39 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm8Yi-3ibknw-01-FBX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:28:39 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm8Yi-3ibknw-01-FBX; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:19:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm8Yi-3ibknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:19:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm8V9-0002gT-4j for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:16:15 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BAD016DD488; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21521-08; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 559976DE3AE; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62A426DD488 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21242-06 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12D166DD007 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panther (backup.vigay.com [82.163.120.21]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4ADEgD2030724 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:14:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:12:55 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0cfb42blists-nospam@vigay.com> In-Reply-To: <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.13) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 420 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: lists-nospam@vigay.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Andrew Conroy wrote: [Snip] > Another, somewhat more limiting factor, is that the UniPod (well, > !MassFS, to be precise) will only cope with external hard drives up to > 2GB in size, due to the limits imposed by DOSFS in RISC OS. I'm assuming you mean if you want to keep it in PC format so that you can share data with a PC? If you re-format the device to RISC OS format you can have any size you want (up to the RISC OS maximum). I've got an external 80GB USB hard drive here which works fine and gives full access to the whole drive. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 14:58:41 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm93g-04i000-02-EgZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:58:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm93g-04i000-02-EgZ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:51:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm93g-04i000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:51:52 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm93f-0003CD-B8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:51:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4F65E6DCE1C; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28480-07; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DBEC56DBF24; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1B3556DCE1C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28318-04 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B50576DB530 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 09:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKxQS-1Hm92v2cIt-0008I8; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:51:07 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:52:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk> <4ee0cfb42blists-nospam@vigay.com> In-Reply-To: <4ee0cfb42blists-nospam@vigay.com> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19GoklumeDLZaaDc4vq9GfGVh4oaJsmhBIWwDi rPyzy5vbSxhBvMR6GO9P1FQuVzkkcLYYNGO3WrCocVOk5BJaMU 6dYWKaekckhcnO5rYSsJjuFyvMFcRpK X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 421 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0cfb42blists-nospam@vigay.com> Paul Vigay wrote: > In article > <50233.194.106.46.76.1178787321.squirrel@webmail.orpheusnet.co.uk>, > Andrew Conroy wrote: > [Snip] > >> Another, somewhat more limiting factor, is that the UniPod (well, >> !MassFS, to be precise) will only cope with external hard drives up to >> 2GB in size, due to the limits imposed by DOSFS in RISC OS. > > I'm assuming you mean if you want to keep it in PC format so that you can > share data with a PC? > > If you re-format the device to RISC OS format you can have any size you > want (up to the RISC OS maximum). I've got an external 80GB USB hard drive > here which works fine and gives full access to the whole drive. But, I presume, attached to an Iyonix and not attached to a UniPod, which is what Andrew refers to. I do not think MassFS supports RISC OS formatted devices. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 15:28:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hm9W3-2Fn000-05-EEC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:28:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hm9W3-2Fn000-05-EEC; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:21:11 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hm9W3-2Fn000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:21:11 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hm9W2-0006PE-By for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:21:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F22C16DD523; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00722-04; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9576D6DDB77; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 10:18:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8EA046DD523 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00582-07 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2CF456DD2A7 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm9VJ-000Fsd-MT for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:20:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:32:17 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 422 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 10 May, David Pilling wrote: > Relevant to this discussion but a bit late, I've long used standard hard > discs in cradles as a means of shifting data about. Just about when the > SyJet, Iomega Jazz etc. removable discs came out, it became apparent > that a hard disc in cradle was as cheap. So back up to hard disc is > sensible. I thought that was a good idea but I've had two pack up on me (HD in cradle in RiscPC) and they were the only hard drives that have died on me excepting those that were killed by a mis-wired power lead. 5V <-> 12V isn't happy. ;-( I'm seriously considering getting one of CJE's network storage link to control back ups. -- John Cartmell john@finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 or 0161 969 9820 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 15:58:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmA1w-4QIknw-02-DiJ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:58:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmA1w-4QIknw-02-DiJ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:54:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmA1w-4QIknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:54:08 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmA1s-00036x-22 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:54:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A22CC6DCA2B; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05221-08; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4501B6DD8DD; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EEBE36DD61F for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05117-06 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E51056DD5F4 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 10:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hm9yg-000HWS-F9 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:50:46 +0000 Message-ID: <1DgBGoD9DzQGFw10@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:49:33 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 423 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell >I thought that was a good idea but I've had two pack up on me (HD in cradle in >RiscPC) and they were the only hard drives that have died on me excepting >those that were killed by a mis-wired power lead. 5V <-> 12V isn't happy. ;-( It is anecdotal, but I have had RISC PC configurations that seemed to give short HD lifetimes - I would say because it was too hot inside. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. 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FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Thu May 10 17:18:46 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmBJ1-04K000-05-CRE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:18:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmBJ1-04K000-05-CRE; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:15:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmBJ1-04K000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:15:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmBJ0-0002xt-7U for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 827526DED63; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18331-08; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1517E6DEDFB; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D35356DED63 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18228-01 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.69.126]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0F606DE72C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 12:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-50-235.teleos-web.de [87.245.50.235]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D84299D49 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 10 May 2007 18:14:26 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:25 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4652e0e04e.martinv@ucs.de> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b85f56bric@f2s.com> <4ee0b96c9edfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0c5ac7ffrank@aaug.net> <8132cae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <1DgBGoD9DzQGFw10@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1DgBGoD9DzQGFw10@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 424 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <1DgBGoD9DzQGFw10@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > In message <4ee0d179eajohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell > >I thought that was a good idea but I've had two pack up on me (HD in cradle in > >RiscPC) and they were the only hard drives that have died on me excepting > >those that were killed by a mis-wired power lead. 5V <-> 12V isn't happy. ;-( > > It is anecdotal, but I have had RISC PC configurations that seemed to > give short HD lifetimes - I would say because it was too hot inside. > My personal experience has it that consumer HDs produced after ~'99 i.e. gigabytes can be expected to die after 4 years. Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:09 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGjk-00I005-06-w9b.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGjk-00I005-06-w9b; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:03:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGjk-00I005-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:03:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmGax-00028w-30 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:54:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CD3F86DE290; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01514-02; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 65A536DEB29; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3806C6DE290 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01397-05 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com (smtp5.freeserve.com [193.252.22.159]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AEEB06DD6D3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6741A1C00088 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rpc (user-54476910.wfd88a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.71.105.16]) by mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 2F41E1C00081 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:54:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20070510215400193.2F41E1C00081@mwinf3422.me.freeserve.com Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 22:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 435 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> Martin Devon wrote: > In message <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> > Dave Symes wrote: > >> In article , >> Martin Devon wrote: >>> > >>> > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on >>> > to which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this >>> > SARPC, but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all >>> > the stuff from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like >>> > no filetypes. >> >>> Surely there must be something astray with your LanMan98 setup, eg do >>> you have a current Mappings file inside LanMan98? >> >> Yes it does have a mappings file inside LM98. >> I've also got Notypes set to Y >> I can't remember why now, there was some reason. >> I guess if I change that to N it will preserve all the filetypes, but I >> still wonder why I set it to Y in the first place. > > That looks like it. > If you are minded to experiment, try running an NFS server on your PC. > Sunfish is twice as fast as LanMan for write operations. > Generally you want notypes set to no. However, if 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows and 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files and 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside Lanman98 then you might want to turn notypes on. The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows doesn't like. However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:10 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGlB-00E00w-06-8DvW.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGlB-00E00w-06-8DvW; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:05:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGlB-00E00w-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:05:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmG6U-0007ee-Gk for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:23:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 671D46DE4E6; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30488-04; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F3A2E6DDD7C; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9979F6DE675 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30392-01 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mra03.ch.as12513.net (mra03.ch.as12513.net [82.153.254.71]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 60C416DDEC9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mra03.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F145D43C4 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mra03.ch.as12513.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra03.ch.as12513.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09793-01-29 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from MartinRPC.heleigh.org.uk (unknown [82.152.145.38]) by mra03.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804EAD4242 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:28 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Devon X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 433 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > Martin Devon wrote: >> > >> > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on >> > to which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this >> > SARPC, but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all >> > the stuff from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like >> > no filetypes. > >> Surely there must be something astray with your LanMan98 setup, eg do >> you have a current Mappings file inside LanMan98? > > Yes it does have a mappings file inside LM98. > I've also got Notypes set to Y > I can't remember why now, there was some reason. > I guess if I change that to N it will preserve all the filetypes, but I > still wonder why I set it to Y in the first place. That looks like it. If you are minded to experiment, try running an NFS server on your PC. Sunfish is twice as fast as LanMan for write operations. -- Martin R. Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wilts, UK RISC OS in the Timber Frame Housing Industry From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:14 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGls-00T00r-04-7oLH.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGls-00T00r-04-7oLH; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGls-00T00r-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:06:01 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmFyO-0005qf-5Z for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:14:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD54D6DEEE9; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29260-06; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E94E6DEEAF; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 707DF6DEEE9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29165-01 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.32]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 99A776DEB55 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABwoQ0bUSnILk2dsb2JhbACPfgEBAQEHCAYMHw Received: from [88.105.171.89] (port=10188 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HmFxf-0007Iq-6C for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:14:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 22:12:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 432 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article , Martin Devon wrote: > > > > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on > > to which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this > > SARPC, but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all > > the stuff from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like > > no filetypes. > Surely there must be something astray with your LanMan98 setup, eg do > you have a current Mappings file inside LanMan98? Yes it does have a mappings file inside LM98. I've also got Notypes set to Y I can't remember why now, there was some reason. I guess if I change that to N it will preserve all the filetypes, but I still wonder why I set it to Y in the first place. Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:14 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGmM-00R01P-07-DrPV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGmM-00R01P-07-DrPV; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:06:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGmM-00R01P-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:06:32 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmFoB-0001bJ-GM for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:04:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 37ECE6DDA41; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28380-09; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF2446DEB55; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 17:01:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA7B06DDA41 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28257-09 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from weequay.is.scarlet.be (weequay.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.24]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 68B696DD8B7 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from (ip-81-11-183-186.dsl.scarlet.be [81.11.183.186]) by weequay.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id l4AL3ZD28389 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:03:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:02:51 +0200 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf Message-ID: <5bbafae04e.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.06) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: weequay 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 431 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message you wrote: > True duotones are a greyscale printed in 2 spot colours, probably with > different contrast curves for each spot colour. The endpoints for each > being between 0% and 100% of the single spot colour. It shouldn't be spot colour but can. One of the duotones colorants can be process. John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:14 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGn2-00D027-08-ORmZ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGn2-00D027-08-ORmZ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:07:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGn2-00D027-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:07:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmFYy-0002wj-Lg for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 20:48:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5466A6DE023; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26715-04; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1E766DE374; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A05F36DE023 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26569-05 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 621806DD19D for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKIhQ0bUSnIMk2dsb2JhbACPfgEBAQEHCAYMHw Received: from [88.105.171.89] (port=10161 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HmFY3-000Egp-JM for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:47:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:40:20 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: [Snippy] > When attached to an Iyonix or a RiscPC with Castle USB, no problem. Martin, As you will have seen from my previous postings Unipod is mentioned as the USB in my machine. > > The whole point of that exercise being to obviate the need to archive > > RO stuff before backing it to a Win PC formatted Hard drive or similar. > There is always the option of using a network attached storage device > and SunFish (if NFS is supported) or LanMan[98] (for the SMB protocol) > for backups. Then you can even share the disc between platforms. > Martin I don't understand that at all... Considering I've already mentioned in passing that I backup to a PC hardrive. "...and save all the work of archiving before transferring to the Win PC backup drive." At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on to which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this SARPC, but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all the stuff from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like no filetypes. So how does your suggestion obviate the need to archive RO stuff before shoving it over to the shared backup disk? That's the only reason I want to RO format a USB HD. Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:18 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGsi-00Q052-08-ohrT.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:18 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGsi-00Q052-08-ohrT; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGsi-00Q052-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmE96-00062C-9v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:17:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F337C6DE36C; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13760-09; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 47BF36DD3BB; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3836E6DEFB7 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13194-06 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 29B516DEFC2 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070510191647.NSMF16175.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 20:16:47 +0100 Received: from risco.home ([81.111.53.184]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20070510191647.TFDX29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@risco.home> for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 20:16:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:11:40 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 428 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In on Wed 09 May, David Pilling wrote: > In message <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk>, Nick Kaijaks > writes > >As I recall in OP, you have two different colours as endpoints, and > >create a single curve between them. It's not as subtle an effect, and > >not as flexible as a duotone, but it shouldn't introduce any other > >colours either... > > Nick glad to hear you're still with us. > > So with a true duotone, one could have spot colours as the two end > points and just output fractions of them along the way - no made up > process colours. Not my previous understanding, nor my reading of Nick's post. True duotones are a greyscale printed in 2 spot colours, probably with different contrast curves for each spot colour. The endpoints for each being between 0% and 100% of the single spot colour. You still get a paper-colour background. For example you might print the greyscale in green but the shadow areas look a bit weak so you duotone with black printing only in the shadow areas to give a richer tonal range. I have a vague recollection of discussing this about 5 years ago. To get a concept example I had to place the greyscale image onto 2 spot colour layers in Opro, process each appropriately and then print the spot colour layers separately to an inkjet printer (where the spot colours were rendered as cmyk), re-feeding the paper to get an approximation of what the offset litho printer would achieve with a true duotone. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:19 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmGzY-02k04D-03-agFz.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmGzY-02k04D-03-agFz; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:20:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmGzY-02k04D-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:20:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmCtJ-00028i-KO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:57:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 62AAE6DE6CF; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01437-07; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E5A036DEA31; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 13:54:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7393A6DE6CF for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01343-01 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com (smtp5.freeserve.com [193.252.22.159]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DF6D86DE1A2 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 13:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9EC91C00085 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rpc (user-54476910.wfd88a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.71.105.16]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 9F64E1C00082 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:56:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20070510175640652.9F64E1C00082@mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:55:48 +0100 Message-ID: <5b9ae9e04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 425 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> charles wrote: > In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, > Dave Symes wrote: >> > >> I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. >> I can get an external 2.5 inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB >> socket, and requires no other external power source. >> Will this setup function connected to a Unipod? >> Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to do the business? > > One thing to bear in mind is that these devices sometimes have two USB > connectors to get sufficient power into the unit (I assume some form of > current limiting on individual ports). You will need to ensure that you > have 2 spare ports. > The USB spec is 500mA per port, curent limited. In practice I see a lot of tablets and laptops with no current limit - once the socket is broken the plug shorts the 5volts, and the computer stops dead. Pressing the power button then reboots it. (It is fairly easy to break the plastic barrier out of a USB socket. Unplugging carelessly, with a little more force than is sensible, will do it. They are NOT child-proof.) -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:19 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmH2B-04T00L-03-5kDE.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmH2B-04T00L-03-5kDE; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmH2B-04T00L-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:22:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmGwT-0001PO-VS for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:17:01 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 690066DBA77; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04715-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C353B6D47DF; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1DCF86DF1D0 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04573-02 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.174]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A714E6DF33F for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1HmGvg2Xc7-0003Pw; Fri, 11 May 2007 00:16:09 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:17:31 +0200 Message-ID: <2d9001e14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18DhW8wtZRmzJj870WnT3Adwyyj43fEehH+RL1 7u/O+PEG6ZkGy39b6jsj0vVfVEprHiWF/srqnxsHRtv0AqU0J0 OJca6wusxh9c7z+exCKrTNtRBa++8zC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 436 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> Alan Adams wrote: > Generally you want notypes set to no. > > However, if > 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows > and > 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files > and > 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside > Lanman98 > then you might want to turn notypes on. > > The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a > type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows > doesn't like. In what way? Windows is perfectly happy with ,xxx extensions. Those are only given to files that do not have a mapping, so they are likely to be RISC OS specific files, with which Windows cannot do much anyway. But even with the ,nnn extension you can load the files in a Windows editor, for instance. I find it very difficult to imagine any kind of circumstances where setting Notypes to Y makes much sense. With RISC OS ,xxx extensions enabled (i.e., Notypes=N) all the cross-platform files that you might want to use under Windows as well can be mapped to a proper extension and all the rest is of no interest to the Windows side anyway. So you do not lose anything by having the RISC OS ,xxx extensions. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:20 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmH46-04V02m-03-OAST.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmH46-04V02m-03-OAST; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:24:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmH46-04V02m-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:24:51 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmGMD-0005pI-2d for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:39:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 405EB6DEA70; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31844-09; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CDC0E6DEA3B; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 189606DEA65 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31690-08 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1A2E6DEA3B for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1HmGLU2dOe-0006PA; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:38:45 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:00:53 +0200 Message-ID: <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19i08qGYCcaXm1/17YmqZSy58fqdXOX59WfHVf q+FSwqkd7N/jAMVUFY7uP+u6PD5ScCon4LhVBi/EL2a/RREJzf Rlli/c7ZWrma6aHkXp+4qvcQoVKwXum X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 434 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > [Snippy] > >> When attached to an Iyonix or a RiscPC with Castle USB, no problem. > > Martin, As you will have seen from my previous postings Unipod is > mentioned as the USB in my machine. Yes, but you wrote "Due to the **** limits in RO we are again stuffed", which is wrong because this is not a RISC OS limit. It is a limit of the podule you happen to own. RISC OS can happily write to large external hard discs. >> > The whole point of that exercise being to obviate the need to archive >> > RO stuff before backing it to a Win PC formatted Hard drive or similar. > >> There is always the option of using a network attached storage device >> and SunFish (if NFS is supported) or LanMan[98] (for the SMB protocol) >> for backups. Then you can even share the disc between platforms. > > I don't understand that at all... Considering I've already mentioned in > passing that I backup to a PC hardrive. "...and save all the work of > archiving before transferring to the Win PC backup drive." I do not understand why you do that. I always back up to my PC without archiving anything and the file types are preserved. In fact, I even have a lot of live data on my PC's hard disc, all with file types, and I work directly on it from RISC OS. > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on to > which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this SARPC, > but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all the stuff > from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like no filetypes. Why? LanMan98 transfers the filetypes (unless you explicitly instruct it not to). What happens when you drag a Sprite file into a LanMan98 Filer window? Does it not appear as a Sprite file there? Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:20 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmH6I-04W05s-05-raej.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmH6I-04W05s-05-raej; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:27:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmH6I-04W05s-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:27:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmFlm-0000jv-T2 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 21:01:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 974EA6DEC2F; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28114-05; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 116CF6DEC61; Thu, 10 May 2007 17:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 541F46DEB12 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27998-06 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net (mra05.ch.as12513.net [82.153.254.73]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1EBD26DEAA1 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 16:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EEFC4C71 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:01:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra05.ch.as12513.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32380-01-40 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:01:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from MartinRPC.heleigh.org.uk (unknown [82.152.145.38]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC084C4C46 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:01:08 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Devon X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 22:01:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 430 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > [Snippy] > >> When attached to an Iyonix or a RiscPC with Castle USB, no problem. > > Martin, As you will have seen from my previous postings Unipod is > mentioned as the USB in my machine. > >> > The whole point of that exercise being to obviate the need to archive >> > RO stuff before backing it to a Win PC formatted Hard drive or similar. > >> There is always the option of using a network attached storage device >> and SunFish (if NFS is supported) or LanMan[98] (for the SMB protocol) >> for backups. Then you can even share the disc between platforms. > >> Martin > > I don't understand that at all... Considering I've already mentioned in > passing that I backup to a PC hardrive. "...and save all the work of > archiving before transferring to the Win PC backup drive." > > > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on to > which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this SARPC, > but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all the stuff > from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like no filetypes. Surely there must be something astray with your LanMan98 setup, eg do you have a current Mappings file inside LanMan98? -- Martin R. Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wilts, UK RISC OS in the Timber Frame Housing Industry From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:22 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmHLT-0Yx06y-05-10Nya.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmHLT-0Yx06y-05-10Nya; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:42:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmHLT-0Yx06y-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:42:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmDZw-0003t8-IV for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8D5576DEF17; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08719-03; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2CD116DEF53; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3CE226DEF17 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08563-02 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D51E96DEF15 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML31I-1HmDZ73K0a-00041O; Thu, 10 May 2007 20:40:44 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 20:42:17 +0200 Message-ID: <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19mILGWpWbY4jPT3q05lMI+4CJxxCRFDjGDeR+ M24oO6nxSFCsh12N7vO0JKmtGhXN6RiVsYjQCGlmFVAoAg6pNn t3TAES3kaiQFDt+uDKA4rdYo2Clh6YZ X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 427 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > It seems then, to sumarize... > > Due to the crap limits in RO we are again stuffed, when trying to keep up > with the game that is now on the far distant horizon. > > Even with an external USB drive and a Wallwart power supply, there's no > way to format it to RO. When attached to an Iyonix or a RiscPC with Castle USB, no problem. > The whole point of that exercise being to obviate the need to archive RO > stuff before backing it to a Win PC formatted Hard drive or similar. There is always the option of using a network attached storage device and SunFish (if NFS is supported) or LanMan[98] (for the SMB protocol) for backups. Then you can even share the disc between platforms. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:23 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmHbN-1Yk000-06-EfO.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmHbN-1Yk000-06-EfO; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:59:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmHbN-1Yk000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:59:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmHDc-0007MG-Ql for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 22:34:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2F1E46DE8E7; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06499-01; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B01366DE8B1; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F3356DE89C for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06342-02 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0773E6DE896 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [213.51.146.189] (port=35547 helo=smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HmHCt-0001RW-Lj for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 00:33:55 +0200 Received: from cp326584-a.mill1.nb.home.nl ([84.29.157.167]:1043 helo=arnold) by smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1HmHCs-0002L4-Ba for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 00:33:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:19:35 GMT From: Arnold van der Heijden To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf Message-ID: References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> X-Organization: Tekst & Uitleg Schaijk User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05S) (RISC-OS/3.71) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 437 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: info@uitleg.nl Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In mailtje <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> schreef je: > In message <6990e4df4e.arnold@arnold.> > Arnold van der Heijden wrote: > > I tried al kind of settings but the picture in pdf always is a combination > > of the four proces colours (and not only black and magenta). > > Is the combination you see in the PDF looking like the right colour > still? Well, uhh, no. For example: a duotone, starting with 100% black and 50% magenta in Ovation ends up with 80% black, 60% magenta, 40% yellow and some cyan in pdf. We got the prints back from the printcompany today and it look's ... nice (printing black as black and magenta as a spotcolour), but it's so much different from the result in former days: printing seperated postcript files. > As I recall in OP, you have two different colours as endpoints, and > create a single curve between them. It's not as subtle an effect, and > not as flexible as a duotone, but it shouldn't introduce any other > colours either... So, I'm still wondering why cymk duotone in Ovation for Windows does not give the same cymk-values in pdf. Thanks, -- Arnold Tekst & Uitleg Schaijk Netherlands op www.uitleg.nl Dienblad op www.dienblad.nl / Landerdsite op www.landerd.net Telefoon 0486-463112 / Fax 0486-463537 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:24 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmIFc-4FF002-05-V4B.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmIFc-4FF002-05-V4B; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:41:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmIFc-4FF002-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 23:41:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmD9J-00047k-2V for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Thu, 10 May 2007 18:13:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DE3F96DEBA9; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03575-10; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 846F56DEC77; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 709346DEBA9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03460-01 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CA46B6DEAE9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 14:11:07 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAO79QkbUSnINk2dsb2JhbACPfAEBAQEHBggMHw Received: from [88.105.186.245] (port=10365 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HmD7y-000KVO-Bg for davidpilling@freelists.org; Thu, 10 May 2007 19:12:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 19:12:48 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 426 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain It seems then, to sumarize... Due to the crap limits in RO we are again stuffed, when trying to keep up with the game that is now on the far distant horizon. Even with an external USB drive and a Wallwart power supply, there's no way to format it to RO. The whole point of that exercise being to obviate the need to archive RO stuff before backing it to a Win PC formatted Hard drive or similar. Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:29 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmOkL-1d3GPo-08-G2w.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmOkL-1d3GPo-08-G2w; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:36:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmOkL-1d3GPo-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:36:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmOkK-0005Rj-Sf for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:36:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 839416DE9C8; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09078-02; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F7D06DE950; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 02:34:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C23966DE912 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08933-01 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 645086DE8AE for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 02:34:29 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEGrQ0bUSnIMk2dsb2JhbACPfQEBAQEHCAYMHw Received: from [88.105.153.146] (port=10286 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HmOjc-00051Y-VH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:36:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:22:43 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee12dfbfadfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 438 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk>, Martin Devon wrote: [Snip] > That looks like it. If you are minded to experiment, try running an NFS > server on your PC. Sunfish is twice as fast as LanMan for write > operations. Hohohoho! and to quote a famous tennis player. "You cannot be serious" I did look at Sunfish a very short while ago (Mentioned it on ..networking) I couldn't understand anything in the help file (Alien language) let alone set it up. Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:30 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmPS6-0z3000-05-FLB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmPS6-0z3000-05-FLB; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:22:10 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmPS6-0z3000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:22:10 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmPS4-0003YA-Q6 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:22:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AF78F6DD0FA; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12875-10; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 49CC76DE097; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 03:19:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4D8B86DE485 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12727-08 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.32]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E2C496DE47F for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:19:37 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAIe1Q0bUSnILk2dsb2JhbACPfQEBAQEHCAYMHw Received: from [88.105.153.146] (port=10706 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HmPRJ-000DHJ-LV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:21:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:20:28 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 439 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, Alan Adams wrote: [Snip] > Generally you want notypes set to no. > However, if > 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows > and > 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files > and > 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside > Lanman98 > then you might want to turn notypes on. > The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a > type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows > doesn't like. > However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications > because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text > filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. Cheers Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:30 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQ3p-2lI000-04-EjS.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQ3p-2lI000-04-EjS; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:01:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQ3p-2lI000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:01:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQ3n-0001Iz-S8 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:01:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8F1DE6DE6EE; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16186-08; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1FEE96DEA51; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 03:58:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 081CF6DE6EE for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16093-04 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A74C96DE6CC for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 03:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1HmQ343pph-0000p0; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:00:24 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:01:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/TiJkkDhEw0/cn1WYL220JHX5F66U8dYrDy+0 7uhCmXHbzdHhQT2rRF9FO+oi2/kYgGLTNBJ6B/tOSRZhC1j4My mQ6qz96/PfuZlbcPZKEYSSDqLWhvo3S X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 440 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. > Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea But the whole point of the mapping system is to avoid precisely that. If you have a mapping between .jpg and &c85 then a JPEG saved from RISC OS as Refurb/jpg ends up as Refurb.jpg on the PC, not as Refurb.jpg,c85. And it still has filetype JPEG when seen from RISC OS. > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. > Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I > want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. No, that would be silly. You can have the best of both worlds without having to change anything. Simply add the required mappings and everything just works. As I wrote in another post, it is really hard to imagine any kind of circumstances where Notypes Y makes any sense. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:30 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQ9E-34E000-01-Ee3.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQ9E-34E000-01-Ee3; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:06:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQ9E-34E000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:06:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQ9D-0006B1-T7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:06:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 362D06DEABB; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16754-09; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C7D676DEC04; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3BDF76DEABB for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16623-09 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E544C6DE5E9 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-189-205.as15444.net [82.163.189.205]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4B85kSn032736 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:05:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: Ovation Pro Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:07:55 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] IdxPro Message-ID: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 441 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Maybe I'm being thick, but rtfm doesn't help. I'm adding index entries to a book - more than can be done in a single session - so when I resume, I want to go to the last entry to pick up where I left off. I can't find a way to do this, other than keep clicking the up arrow in the review button, while O-Pro renders every page that has an entry. Is there a better way? John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:31 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQKB-3gu000-05-ET6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQKB-3gu000-05-ET6; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:18:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQKB-3gu000-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:18:03 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQKA-0003pM-RT for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:18:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 795136DCF91; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17874-05; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0FD5A6DD109; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:15:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 285286DCF91 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17566-07 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C34B66DCDFB for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HmQJS-0005z2-W3 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:17:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:17:12 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 442 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes > wrote: > > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. Aside > > from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea > But the whole point of the mapping system is to avoid precisely that. > If you have a mapping between .jpg and &c85 then a JPEG saved from > RISC OS as Refurb/jpg ends up as Refurb.jpg on the PC, not as > Refurb.jpg,c85. And it still has filetype JPEG when seen from RISC OS. > > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. Now I've remembered... If > > I continue to remember, I'll change it when I want to transport RO > > stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. > No, that would be silly. You can have the best of both worlds without > having to change anything. Simply add the required mappings and > everything just works. As I wrote in another post, it is really hard > to imagine any kind of circumstances where Notypes Y makes any sense. I'm reading these posts with interest, but where does one obtain a definitive copy of the map and, how do you stop any other application using its own map (if that happens). Where is Notypes by the way. When transfer files across to an XP machine from my RiscPc via LanMan98 I see the ,extension added. I live with it, but I appreciate I don't have to. Apologies if I'm asking out of topic here. Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:31 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQNd-3tG000-04-EPe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQNd-3tG000-04-EPe; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:21:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQNd-3tG000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:21:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQNc-0000P3-2v for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:21:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CB6C76DE327; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18133-09; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C16D6DE914; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F8966DE327 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18054-01 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net (mra05.ch.as12513.net [82.153.254.73]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AE13E6DB27A for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D177AC467F for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:20:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra05.ch.as12513.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02206-01-81 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:20:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from martins_pc (unknown [82.152.145.38]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 78016C4672 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:20:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:20:50 +0100 From: Martin Devon To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-Id: <20070511092050.b3aee7da.martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 443 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On Fri, 11 May 2007 08:20:28 +0100 Dave Symes wrote: > In article <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, > Alan Adams wrote: > > [Snip] > > > Generally you want notypes set to no. > > > However, if > > 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows > > and > > 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files > > and > > 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside > > Lanman98 > > then you might want to turn notypes on. > > > The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a > > type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows > > doesn't like. > > > However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications > > because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text > > filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). > > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. > Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea > > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. > Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I > want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. No need. If you add these filetypes to the Mappings file the ",xxx" part will not be added. Martin -- Martin R. Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wilts, UK RISC OS in the Timber Frame Housing Industry From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:31 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQXN-4RX000-02-EFu.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQXN-4RX000-02-EFu; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:31:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQXN-4RX000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:31:41 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQXN-0003bV-KH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:31:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 38F6A6DEDAC; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19231-08; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF6AE6DEE63; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6B45A6DEDAC for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19124-06 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1F5CD6DEBA6 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-189-205.as15444.net [82.163.189.205]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4B8UhTs001075 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: Ovation Pro Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:32:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IdxPro Message-ID: <4ee139e7f0john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> References: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 444 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, john@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: > Maybe I'm being thick, but rtfm doesn't help. And while I am at it, there must be a way to make the index entry points visible, because they are visible in the example, but I can't find a way to turn them on and off. John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:31 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmQgq-0Kxknw-04-E6R.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmQgq-0Kxknw-04-E6R; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:41:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmQgq-0Kxknw-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:41:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmQgp-0000AC-0k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ADAD96DEE6D; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20200-10; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4202A6DEF0B; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74D786DEE6D for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20086-08 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1D6B86DEC6B for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1HmQfw3LEM-0000ja; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:40:42 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/oiXlrvW/rZVy3mA+i6mSisteNtPC+TmTmQun jd0m/3P4TFaH3YjgAO8eYqCfxAnU3daxNx37qTduPJdqYhimF4 eeUNWJ6Dzg40C6GvMvf8bhq5URXexyN X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 445 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> Phil wrote: > I'm reading these posts with interest, but where does one obtain a > definitive copy of the map The mappings file that came with my copy of LanMan98 has far more filetypes in it than I recognise. Amongst others, it has mappings for JPEG and DXF, which were the examples Dave quoted. So, the answer is: Use the supplied standard map. The number of file types you are going to create and store on your PC that have a meaning to both RISC OS and the PC is very small anyway. You might discover a new one every couple of months but then you simply add it to the mapping file (!LanMan98.Mappings) and that is it. The most likely scenario is that the supplied mapping has all the types you need. > and how do you stop any other application > using its own map (if that happens). Sorry, that question does not make any sense in this context. LanMan98 applies the mapping to all files saved to remote discs it handles, no matter from which application you save. > When transfer files across to an XP machine from my RiscPc via LanMan98 I > see the ,extension added. I live with it, but I appreciate I don't have > to. Of course, if you want to save a file for use under Windows you need to save it with the correct DOS extension (e.g., save a text file as file/txt from RISC OS or a JPEG as file/jpg), otherwise Windows cannot understand it anyway. If the extension matches the RISC OS file type, then there is no additional ,xxx extension. If you save a file without DOS extension, then Windows would not know what to do with it anyway, so the ,xxx extension that LanMan98 adds in that case does not make things worse. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:32 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmR11-1b5knw-06-DmG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmR11-1b5knw-06-DmG; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:02:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmR11-1b5knw-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:02:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmR0y-00008t-5Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:02:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C02626DE9E3; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22275-02; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4DEBB6DEA16; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 04:59:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 680116DE9E3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22016-06 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 67B556DE942 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 04:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HmR0D-0003KM-BH for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:01:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 10:01:23 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 446 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> Phil > wrote: > > I'm reading these posts with interest, but where does one obtain a > > definitive copy of the map > The mappings file that came with my copy of LanMan98 has far more > filetypes in it than I recognise. Amongst others, it has mappings for > JPEG and DXF, which were the examples Dave quoted. So, the answer is: > Use the supplied standard map. > The number of file types you are going to create and store on your PC > that have a meaning to both RISC OS and the PC is very small anyway. > You might discover a new one every couple of months but then you > simply add it to the mapping file (!LanMan98.Mappings) and that is it. > The most likely scenario is that the supplied mapping has all the > types you need. > > and how do you stop any other application using its own map (if that > > happens). > Sorry, that question does not make any sense in this context. LanMan98 > applies the mapping to all files saved to remote discs it handles, no > matter from which application you save. Thats my ignorance Martin.. but I did believe that as Lanman did the neccessary. > > When transfer files across to an XP machine from my RiscPc via > > LanMan98 I see the ,extension added. I live with it, but I appreciate > > I don't have to. > Of course, if you want to save a file for use under Windows you need > to save it with the correct DOS extension (e.g., save a text file as > file/txt from RISC OS or a JPEG as file/jpg), otherwise Windows cannot > understand it anyway. If the extension matches the RISC OS file type, > then there is no additional ,xxx extension. Yes I do use the correct extensions, i.e text as text/text etc and I'm aware of this for Windows If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? > If you save a file without DOS extension, then Windows would not know > what to do with it anyway, so the ,xxx extension that LanMan98 adds in > that case does not make things worse. This I do appreciate. While I have to use the XP machine at times, I little patience with it which I guess is a bit disrespectful of the work thats gone into making Windows XP work with nearly all and sundry applications that people write for it. Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:32 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmR2b-1iaknw-07-Dkg.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmR2b-1iaknw-07-Dkg; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:03:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmR2b-1iaknw-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:03:57 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmR2a-0000UE-Gv for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:03:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DAF206DE542; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22429-05; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7C0286DE6C0; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 05:01:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AD0206DE542 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22328-06 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net (outmail1.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.237]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 02EE86DE630 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wallace (i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net [195.137.110.177]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A645B6E856 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:55:56 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:55:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee13c03dcbric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 447 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bric@f2s.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: [Snip] > Yes it does have a mappings file inside LM98. I've also got > Notypes set to Y I can't remember why now, there was some > reason. I guess if I change that to N it will preserve all the > filetypes, but I still wonder why I set it to Y in the first > place. I too have NoTypes set to Y, but will have to review this once I have understood the discussion in this thread. Besides the matter of file-typing, does not zipping before backing up also properly preserve files' date-time information? Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:32 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmREB-2W0knw-03-DZ6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmREB-2W0knw-03-DZ6; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:15:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmREB-2W0knw-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:15:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmREA-0005rk-0n for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:15:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AB0C56DEC24; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23678-06; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 471836DEB50; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 05:13:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0FFD26DEC24 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23404-06 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.179]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 540D26DEAFB for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 05:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1HmRDP3Ks6-0006w8; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:15:07 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:17 +0200 Message-ID: <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ADdEXMilOSLlaJ9nwJJ1AhXP6kGrcOeAjevF YGtCH/eWmD4zlJnELSiMMPrrNhnwuSsm3AYjJy1xfENwWQmFi7 gJnK8pytY7JajZsL5eOEDnlClAgYKWX X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 448 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> Phil wrote: > If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added > > Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? The definitive guide is to add the line LanMan98Map ZIP &A91 to !LanMan98.Mappings to solve the above problem and double-click on Mappings to make it take effect immediately. Proceed in a similar way for any other missing type you might encounter. There is nothing more to it. LanMan98 predates the use of type A91 for RISC OS zip files introduced by SparkFS at some stage (hey, back on topic for this group!), so this is probably the only important type missing from the default mapping. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:16:33 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmRyu-1KPVbs-08-CoN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:16:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmRyu-1KPVbs-08-CoN; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:04:12 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmRyu-1KPVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:04:12 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmRyu-0005Sl-Ak for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E62BD6DEA1C; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29105-04; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7EC136DEA52; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 06:01:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1A8DD6DEA1C for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28918-05 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DA5A26DEA98 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HmRyD-0002zP-4O for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:03:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:03:22 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 449 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> Phil > wrote: > > If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added > > > > Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? > The definitive guide is to add the line > LanMan98Map ZIP &A91 > to !LanMan98.Mappings to solve the above problem and double-click on > Mappings to make it take effect immediately. Proceed in a similar way > for any other missing type you might encounter. There is nothing more > to it. > LanMan98 predates the use of type A91 for RISC OS zip files introduced > by SparkFS at some stage (hey, back on topic for this group!), so this > is probably the only important type missing from the default mapping. Hey back on topic, I hope so, as its more interesting than my delema, but nevertheless thanks, its appreciated and to be honest, I think it is only the zip files that get the extra. Now, like Brian, what and where is Notype. If Zipping up files didnt take so long I'd zip em and put them on my XP backup disk. I use the datasafe via the printer port. I'll end up off topic here, I dont want to go down the Ionyx route, but I really would like to upgrade to something thats quicker purely for zipping and other tasks that take time. My APDL Turbo RiscPC is now 10 years old, and I need a backup. Yes I go virtual.. Back on topic now folks. Thanks again. Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From Reprografie@harderwijk.nl Fri May 11 11:46:08 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmSZ1-433Vbs-06-CEG.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:46:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmSZ1-433Vbs-06-CEG; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:41:31 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmSZ1-433Vbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:41:31 +0000 Received: from [84.246.42.106] (helo=mail.harderwijk.nl) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmSYy-0004Gw-N7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:41:31 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO EX01.harderwijk.local) ([192.168.1.20]) by mail.harderwijk.nl with ESMTP; 11 May 2007 12:41:28 +0200 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,521,1170630000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="690766:sNHT42064380" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C793B8.ED8F2133" Subject: Automatisch antwoord bij afwezigheid: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Thread-Index: AceTuO2PZk1KmuIWRMmvnC9uZmTWWAAAAABl From: "Reprografie" To: "David Pilling" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C793B8.ED8F2133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ik ben afwezig tot 30 mei. Voor dringende zaken kunt u contact opnemen met =E9=E9n van mijn collega's. Vriendelijke groet,=20 Bea Kamphuis Het gemeentebestuur van Harderwijk doet zijn uiterste best om de juiste en = meest actuele informatie te verschaffen. Desondanks kunnen aan dit elektron= ische bericht geen rechten worden ontleend.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C793B8.ED8F2133 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Automatisch antwoord bij afwezigheid: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.4= 1 (RISC OS) - Zip size max?

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C793B8.ED8F2133-- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:46:09 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmSZq-474Vbs-04-CDR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:46:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmSZq-474Vbs-04-CDR; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmSZq-474Vbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmSZb-0007IG-FJ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 934866DEE05; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01553-06; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 296246DEE08; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 06:39:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5691E6DEE05 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01419-08 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1FECB6DEDA8 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HmSYc-000AdK-DP for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:41:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:04 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 450 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk>, Phil writes >If Zipping up files didnt take so long I'd zip em and put them on my XP >backup disk. I use the datasafe via the printer port. I have been known to zip files before back up - so I could put stuff on CD, another alien filing system which is not always a happy match with RISC OS - anyway I used to turn off compression for the Zip file type (SparkFS choices). That makes things a lot faster. Also, at some stage I fine tuned SparkFS so that adding lots of files to an archive was much faster. This came in with SparkFS 1.36, if you have a version older than that you'll suffer. Since it is a free upgrade from my web site you have no need to. See ReadMe for an explanation. Alternatives - the command line version of info zip. Long long time ago the fastest archiver was PackdDir, which I recall could archive stuff faster than RISC OS could copy files. You can use SparkFS for accessing PackdDir archives. >really would like to upgrade to something thats quicker purely for >zipping and other tasks that take time. My APDL Turbo RiscPC is now 10 >years old, and I need a backup. Yes I go virtual.. Maybe we need a way of farming out the compression to a PC. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:46:09 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmScX-4J4Vbs-01-CAk.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:46:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmScX-4J4Vbs-01-CAk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:45:09 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmScX-4J4Vbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:45:09 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmScW-0002Ds-NF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:45:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DDD316DEDC0; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02152-04; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FC406DEE66; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 06:42:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B7E156DEE3F for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02033-03 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5D7D06DEE66 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1HmSbn35nO-0000ok; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:44:23 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:45:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184qCmbORQhC1qH3Uged1kcAZywO0P+7O3IR2k 2dvjquFp1TU5lf0lfO1tGodWrH/OeAHjNFN7PtCgqd9co3lHFR nU+Tq70iou/ykyjiUa6Aelo/rpuEt9Z X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 451 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> Phil wrote: > On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > >> LanMan98 predates the use of type A91 for RISC OS zip files introduced >> by SparkFS at some stage (hey, back on topic for this group!), so this >> is probably the only important type missing from the default mapping. > > Hey back on topic, I hope so, as its more interesting than my delema, but > nevertheless thanks, its appreciated and to be honest, I think it is only > the zip files that get the extra. > > Now, like Brian, what and where is Notype. Simply forget about it. If you find that all files you transfer to the PC get the extra ,xxx extension despite having the correct DOS extension, THEN you will have to worry about Notypes, because then you have switched it on at some stage and you probably want to switch it off. In all other cases, simply forget that anyone ever mentioned it. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 11:56:09 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmSiy-067GPo-01-C4J.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:56:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmSiy-067GPo-01-C4J; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:51:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmSiy-067GPo-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:51:48 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmSix-0003dH-P1 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:51:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FAE46DE306; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03019-02; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B46366DE451; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 06:49:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 93DFC6DE355 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02876-04 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4AEB26DE33E for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 06:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HmSgk-000EvW-MY for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:49:44 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:47:47 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: duotone pictures in pdf References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 452 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message , Arnold van der Heijden writes >In mailtje <4641AEB9.3080606@kaijaks.co.uk> schreef je: >Well, uhh, no. For example: a duotone, starting with 100% black and >50% magenta in Ovation ends up with 80% black, 60% magenta, 40% >yellow and some cyan in pdf. We got the prints back from the printcompany >today and it look's ... nice (printing black as black and magenta as a >spotcolour), but it's so much different from the result in former days: >printing seperated postcript files. Two things. (1) Have you got Direct PostScript set in OPW Print choices (2) If you don't have Direct PostScript set (and are not using a PostScript based driver), then your CMYK colours will be converted to RGB using the settings in OPW colour choices. I think there may be another point. How is the PDF generated? Some PDF printer drivers work using PostScript (Adobe for example) and can be expected to use the CMYK colour model. Others are based around Windows meta files (as are most printer drivers), if you use one of those then the print file will be turned into RGB. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 12:06:09 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmSuk-0zXGPo-05-BsX.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:06:09 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmSuk-0zXGPo-05-BsX; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:03:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmSuk-0zXGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:03:58 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmSuk-000726-Fq for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:03:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 111376DE550; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04319-06; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A68FB6DE707; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 07:01:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 00B356DE550 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04224-01 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B2ECA6DE368 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HmSu2-0004dj-Du for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:03:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:03:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 453 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> Phil > wrote: > > On 11 May, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > > > >> LanMan98 predates the use of type A91 for RISC OS zip files > >> introduced by SparkFS at some stage (hey, back on topic for this > >> group!), so this is probably the only important type missing from > >> the default mapping. > > > > Hey back on topic, I hope so, as its more interesting than my delema, > > but nevertheless thanks, its appreciated and to be honest, I think it > > is only the zip files that get the extra. > > > > Now, like Brian, what and where is Notype. > Simply forget about it. > If you find that all files you transfer to the PC get the extra ,xxx > extension despite having the correct DOS extension, THEN you will have > to worry about Notypes, because then you have switched it on at some > stage and you probably want to switch it off. In all other cases, > simply forget that anyone ever mentioned it. All files seem ok, and now I've added the line you suggest, the problems with ZIP have gone. I'll now forget that anyone ever mentioned Notype. In answer to D P post. I have SaprkFS 1.41 and I'd not tried taking off compression. Not used PackdDir. I'll have to weigh up the time to zip up and then send via lanman, compared to simply putting it onto The datasafe. Thanks again. Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 12:16:10 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmT37-1cbGPo-04-BkA.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:16:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmT37-1cbGPo-04-BkA; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:12:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmT37-1cbGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:12:37 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmT36-0005Bs-VP for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:12:37 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86F3D6DEB16; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05239-09; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 175A96DECC6; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F0CD46DECDF for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05098-04 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A6BAD6DECBC for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (dsl82-163-38-243.as15444.net [82.163.38.243]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4BBBX79005914 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:11:37 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:07:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4e0a48e14e.pnyoung@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 454 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May 2007 Dave Symes wrote: > In article <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, > Alan Adams wrote: > > [Snip] > >> Generally you want notypes set to no. > >> However, if >> 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows >> and >> 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files >> and >> 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside >> Lanman98 >> then you might want to turn notypes on. > >> The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a >> type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows >> doesn't like. > >> However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications >> because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text >> filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). > > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. > Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea > > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. > Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I > want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. Or do as I do; have two otherwise identical shares (or discs, as LanMan98 calls them), one set with filetypes on and one with filetypes off. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 12:26:10 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmT8c-21hGPo-05-Bef.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:26:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmT8c-21hGPo-05-Bef; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:18:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmT8c-21hGPo-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:18:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmT8a-0004W5-LD for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:18:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 41B826DD850; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05922-04; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D0AE36DD53A; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 07:15:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6F6456DD850 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05814-10 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3BF1F6DD800 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HmT7t-000Blf-6G for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:17:34 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:16:15 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 455 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk>, Phil writes >I'll have to weigh up the time to zip up and then send via lanman, >compared to simply putting it onto The datasafe. You can open a Zip file on Windows using SparkFS and then add the files. That provides yet another route with its own time delay. I say this with some unease because I think I've seen it work and seen it not work. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 12:26:11 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmTDc-2NwGPo-03-BZf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:26:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmTDc-2NwGPo-03-BZf; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:23:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmTDc-2NwGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:23:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmTDZ-0007MG-Qi for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:23:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E51E06DE5A2; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06331-07; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8221E6DE7E1; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 07:20:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B86936DE5A2 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06198-09 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.51]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D24C16DE509 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HmTCs-00076s-Jj for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:22:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:22:35 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee1497049philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 456 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, David Pilling wrote: > In message <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk>, Phil > writes > >I'll have to weigh up the time to zip up and then send via lanman, > >compared to simply putting it onto The datasafe. > You can open a Zip file on Windows using SparkFS and then add the > files. That provides yet another route with its own time delay. > I say this with some unease because I think I've seen it work and seen > it not work. Ah, this sounds like Russian Roulette! Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 12:36:11 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmTOF-0H9000-03-BP2.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:36:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmTOF-0H9000-03-BP2; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:34:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmTOF-0H9000-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:34:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmTOF-0007eV-By for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:34:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 12FFF6DED32; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07318-09; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A20F56DEDC0; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 820886DED32 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07238-04 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 50BBF6DEC0A for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 07:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HmTNY-000PVb-MV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 11:33:45 +0000 Message-ID: <1kvx$jGERFRGFwfH@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:32:20 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee1422f71philco@heter.co.uk> <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk> <4ee1497049philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1497049philco@heter.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1497049philco@heter.co.uk>, Phil writes >On 11 May, David Pilling wrote: >> In message <4ee147a850philco@heter.co.uk>, Phil >> writes >> >I'll have to weigh up the time to zip up and then send via lanman, >> >compared to simply putting it onto The datasafe. > >> You can open a Zip file on Windows using SparkFS and then add the >> files. That provides yet another route with its own time delay. > >> I say this with some unease because I think I've seen it work and seen >> it not work. >Ah, this sounds like Russian Roulette! Depends. It might be it works on later versions e.g. when using the Iyonix. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 13:56:15 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmUWC-2efknw-01-AH5.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:56:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmUWC-2efknw-01-AH5; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:46:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmUWC-2efknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:46:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmUWC-00049Y-1J for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:46:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 533AC6DF0ED; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16502-05; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD6A86DF0F2; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 08:44:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7B036DE37F for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12777-08 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7265C6DEB1C for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 08:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from g6tsf.demon.co.uk ([83.105.41.119]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HmU8h-000Ejt-D1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:22:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:21:17 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Paul Shayler Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4edc1b0ac4frank@aaug.net> <9ad1ebdf4e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <13a54ce04e.martinv@ucs.de> <1df17ae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> <4ee0b8a9b9dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0b8a9b9dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.05-S (<5G0CpOrYkgK6MPlFoSTSc1BXnp>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 458 X-Approved-By: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: g6tsf@amsat.org Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0b8a9b9dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes writes >In article <4ee0b67faacharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk>, > charles wrote: >> In article <4ee0ab9573dfs@ukgateway.net>, >> Dave Symes wrote: >> > > >> > I have a SARPC with a Unipod card and USB. I can get an external 2.5 >> > inch USB Hard drive that is powered from the USB socket, and requires >> > no other external power source. Will this setup function connected >> > to a Unipod? Put another way... Does the Unipod have enough power to >> > do the business? > >> One thing to bear in mind is that these devices sometimes have two USB >> connectors to get sufficient power into the unit (I assume some form of >> current limiting on individual ports). You will need to ensure that you >> have 2 spare ports. > >I think you are right, it does seem to require two USB ports. >It's a device aimed at Laptop etc users for backup, so I would assume/hope >the power requirement would be low. > >Cheers >Dave S > >PS: If anyone is interested. >http://www.novatech.com product code: NOV-ND280 > >D. > Looking at the spec on the Novatech website for the NOV-ND280, the device your talking about, it comes with a "normal" USB cable and a "bus power" USB cable. So you may well need to use two USB ports. Paul S. -- Paul Shayler M3TSF/G6TSF Running the Internet accelerator ONSPEED. Details at http://www.onspeed.com From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 14:06:15 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmUll-3XKknw-02-A1W.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 14:06:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmUll-3XKknw-02-A1W; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:02:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmUll-3XKknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:02:49 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmUli-0006a3-Lb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:02:49 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B23FE6DEF75; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18490-02-2; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3BCA66DEFF1; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CBD566DEF75 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18276-04 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.dts-online.net (sally.dts-online.net [212.62.69.126]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8C8436DEEDB for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 09:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucs.de (static-87-245-35-38.teleos-web.de [87.245.35.38]) by sally.dts-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31B92BF5B1 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 15:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from martinv by ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 3.01beta5) for davidpilling@freelists.org; 11 May 2007 15:02:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:02:39 +0200 From: Martin Vethake To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <739952e14e.martinv@ucs.de> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (RemoteNB/3.01beta5) (RISC-OS/3.70) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 459 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martinv@ucs.de Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > [Snippy] > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP PC, on to > which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff from this SARPC, > but in order to do that I *have* to archive (Uncompressed) all the stuff > from this machine, otherwise it ends up in crap order, like no filetypes. > Easy, use proper extensions like '.jpeg'. Guess I need my asbestos now... Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen Inhaber: Kai Uffenkamp USt.-ID-Nr. DE 125 408 721 email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Fri May 11 18:06:27 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HmYTI-4Wyknw-08-EqV.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 18:06:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HmYTI-4Wyknw-08-EqV; Fri, 11 May 2007 17:00:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HmYTI-4Wyknw-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 17:00:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HmYTH-0004uF-B5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Fri, 11 May 2007 17:00:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9FA536DF12C; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20772-08; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9D48A6DF109; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Fri, 11 May 2007 12:57:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FBBF6DF1BC for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20662-05 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com (smtp5.freeserve.com [193.252.22.159]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F1E2E6DF089 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D22391C00086 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 18:59:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rpc (user-5441b8b5.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.65.184.181]) by mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 933791C00082 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 18:59:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20070511165915603.933791C00082@mwinf3419.me.freeserve.com Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:59:01 +0100 Message-ID: <473d68e14e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 460 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, > Alan Adams wrote: > > [Snip] > >> Generally you want notypes set to no. > >> However, if >> 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows >> and >> 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files >> and >> 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside >> Lanman98 >> then you might want to turn notypes on. > >> The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a >> type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows >> doesn't like. > >> However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications >> because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text >> filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). > > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. > Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea > > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. > Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I > want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. > One possible way is to designate part of your Windows disk for these attachments, and share it separately. Then have two Lanman98 drives, one to the main disk with notypes=n, and another to the smaller share with notypes-y. Then you just use the appropriate drive to access depending on what you are doing. > Cheers > Dave S > -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 13 11:57:37 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnBES-0HQGPo-04-ABP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:57:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnBES-0HQGPo-04-ABP; Sun, 13 May 2007 10:23:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnBES-0HQGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 10:23:16 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnBES-0007Mv-7r for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 10:23:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 229896DE99C; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28780-08; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id AC9426DE560; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 May 2007 06:20:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 701E76DE99C for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28714-02 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1BAB86DE983 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 06:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from watsnees.demon.co.uk ([80.177.152.227] helo=panther) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HnBDk-0004Kb-4R for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 May 2007 10:22:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Frank Watkinson To: Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 11:19:54 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 461 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: frank@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes > wrote: > > In article <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin > > Wuerthner wrote: [Snippy] > > [Snip] > > > > I don't understand that at all... Considering I've already > > mentioned in passing that I backup to a PC hardrive. "...and > > save all the work of archiving before transferring to the Win PC > > backup drive." > I do not understand why you do that. I always back up to my PC > without archiving anything and the file types are preserved. In > fact, I even have a lot of live data on my PC's hard disc, all > with file types, and I work directly on it from RISC OS. > > At present I have an external USB Hardrive connected to the XP > > PC, on to which I backup XP PC stuff and via LanMan98, and stuff > > from this SARPC, but in order to do that I *have* to archive > > (Uncompressed) all the stuff from this machine, otherwise it ends > > up in crap order, like no filetypes. > Why? LanMan98 transfers the filetypes (unless you explicitly > instruct it not to). What happens when you drag a Sprite file into > a LanMan98 Filer window? Does it not appear as a Sprite file there? > Martin As the OP, I now feel terribly stupid. However, I cannot say that I should never have started this thread. Let me explain (if I can). I wanted to backup both Windows and RISC OS machines to a device which could be easily connected/disconnected to and from the network linking the various machines, for the purpose of creating an overall "fire-proof" backup to be kept in an other place. Reason? I did not like the thought of my office going up in flames and losing everything, which happened recently to an accountant of my acquaintance. You can imagine his problems with clients clamouring for their end-of-year accounts and tax returns. I thought my solution was a single very large hard drive, USB- connected to one of the Windows machines on my network, with directories allocated to each machine on the network. Do the backups as required, unplug it and put it in the "safe" (away from the office and house). OK, that may not sound too convenient, but it would be less of a hassle than having to re-create a large number of files. That was where my stupidity started. I copied RISC OS files across the network using LanMan98 to the appropriate directory. Looking at the directory on the USB hard drive, I saw the files copied appearing with the ",xxx" extensions. Foolishly, I thought this was not what I wanted and that was the point at which I started to Zip up files and started asking you all about the problems which naturally followed. Having read the ensuing contributions, I wandered from "despair" to "wonder" to "realisation". Martin is quite right (of course); when you view the USB drive's directory, it shows files with the ",xxx" extensions, *but* when viewed over the network using LanMan98 on the RISC OS machine the LanMan98 directory shows those same files without that extension and correctly filetyped according to RISC OS. What is more, with LanMan98 running on VirtualAcorn, the same files in the USB drive are seen as correctly filetyped there also. This happy resolution has appeared to me only slowly. Hence the reason I feel so stupid. Please! Don't tell me I'm wrong and seeing things which are not there. It would definitely not make my day. With appropriate apologies for the nuisance caused. Frank. -- Frank Watkinson. email: Using !Pluto 3.04c on Iyonix 5.10. Still RPC-SA (4.39 Adjust) for some things. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 13 12:27:30 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnC7y-1ppGPo-04-9Ht.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 12:27:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnC7y-1ppGPo-04-9Ht; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:20:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnC7y-1ppGPo-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:20:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnC7w-0002A9-Bb for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:20:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D56BC6DEB7D; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00829-02; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7918B6DEB41; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8A97F6DEF07 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00684-06 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 30E9E6DEB41 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HnC77-000MtI-A8 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:19:45 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:18:41 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 462 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net>, Frank Watkinson writes >view the USB drive's directory, it shows files with the ",xxx" >extensions, *but* when viewed over the network using LanMan98 on the >RISC OS machine the LanMan98 directory shows those same files without >that extension and correctly filetyped according to RISC OS. Yes that's the point. As long as you only want to access the files from RISC OS, the comma file type added to their names is invisible and does the job of preserving file type information for you. The commas etc. only become a bit tedious if you also want to access the files on Windows. I've had to make Ovation Pro for Windows accept files with commas on the end of the extensions. Anyway this has been a comprehensive discussion, I've learnt something from it. I think a lot of people have trouble with this area, pity that there's no fix. In other words next week this topic will start again somewhere -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 13 12:47:31 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnCXn-2cHGPo-03-8s4.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 12:47:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnCXn-2cHGPo-03-8s4; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:47:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnCXn-2cHGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:47:19 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnCXm-0003uo-L5 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:47:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 585886DE411; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02937-01; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E06176DC8E0; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 May 2007 07:44:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 849A76DF192 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02644-05 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (smtp.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.52]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 53EB86DF191 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 07:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 170.90.155.90.in-addr.arpa ([90.155.90.170] helo=standalone.Ashlan) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HnCX5-0005qx-JA for davidpilling@freelists.org; Sun, 13 May 2007 12:46:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 12:46:08 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee25343f7philco@heter.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 463 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: philco@heter.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 13 May, David Pilling wrote: > In message <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net>, Frank Watkinson > writes > >view the USB drive's directory, it shows files with the ",xxx" > >extensions, *but* when viewed over the network using LanMan98 on the > >RISC OS machine the LanMan98 directory shows those same files without > >that extension and correctly filetyped according to RISC OS. > Yes that's the point. As long as you only want to access the files from > RISC OS, the comma file type added to their names is invisible and > does the job of preserving file type information for you. > The commas etc. only become a bit tedious if you also want to access > the files on Windows. I've had to make Ovation Pro for Windows accept > files with commas on the end of the extensions. > Anyway this has been a comprehensive discussion, I've learnt something > from it. It doesnt takr a lot for me to learn something new, but I certainly did too. Thanks Frank. > I think a lot of people have trouble with this area, > pity that there's no fix. In other words next week this topic will > start again somewhere Phil -- philco@heter.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 13 16:17:41 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnFp0-3NSknw-02-E7N.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:17:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnFp0-3NSknw-02-E7N; Sun, 13 May 2007 15:17:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnFp0-3NSknw-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 15:17:18 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnFp0-0003pv-K7 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 006BB6DEC8D; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20786-06; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BCC56DEB53; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 May 2007 11:14:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id C8B956DF4ED for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20492-08 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net (mra05.ch.as12513.net [82.153.254.73]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 898646DF4D0 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 11:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68206C46B2 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:16:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mra05.ch.as12513.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mra05.ch.as12513.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03204-01-11 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:16:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from MartinRPC.heleigh.org.uk (unknown [82.152.145.38]) by mra05.ch.as12513.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DA9C4242 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:16:33 +0100 (BST) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Devon X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:16:27 +0100 Message-ID: <4d8566e24e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by Eclipse VIRUSshield at eclipse.net.uk X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 464 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: martin.devon@heleigh.org.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message David Pilling wrote: [snip] > I think a lot of people have trouble with this area, > pity that there's no fix. In other words next week this topic will start > again somewhere > At the risk of stirring up more mud, there is an interesting difference in the mapping schemes between LanMan98 or Sunfish on one hand and HostFS in VirtualAcorn on the other. (Assuming type a91 is mapped as .zip) A zip file called "new" saved under LanMan98 appears on Windows as "new,a91" while a file "new/zip" appears as "new.zip" Under HostFS "new" appears as "new.zip" and "new/zip" turns up as "new.zip.zip" Interestingly HostFS cannot copy a zip file"new" as "new/zip" in the same directory. HostFS is happy to interpret say "new.zip" and "new.jpg" (as seen in Windows) as two files both named "new" in the same directory but with different icons, while LanMan98 produces new/zip and new/jpg respectively. Martin -- Martin R. Devon MSc Consulting Engineer, Box, Wilts, UK RISC OS in the Timber Frame Housing Industry From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Sun May 13 21:27:56 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnKdQ-28k000-07-9Ix.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 21:27:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnKdQ-28k000-07-9Ix; Sun, 13 May 2007 20:25:40 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnKdQ-28k000-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 20:25:40 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnKdP-0003sm-KH for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 13 May 2007 20:25:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4B66D6DEA7A; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17003-04; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D95696DEDEB; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D36946DEA7A for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16894-05 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.freeserve.com (smtp3.wanadoo.co.uk [193.252.22.156]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 810166DEA37 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F080CC400089 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:24:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rpc (user-54456cc5.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.69.108.197]) by mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id AE4C6C400085 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:24:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20070513202456714.AE4C6C400085@mwinf3216.me.freeserve.com Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Alan Adams X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:24:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <068cfae04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee24b5f21frank@aaug.net> <4d8566e24e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4d8566e24e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 465 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4d8566e24e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> Martin Devon wrote: > In message > David Pilling wrote: > > [snip] > >> I think a lot of people have trouble with this area, >> pity that there's no fix. In other words next week this topic will start >> again somewhere >> > At the risk of stirring up more mud, there is an interesting > difference in the mapping schemes between LanMan98 or Sunfish on one > hand and HostFS in VirtualAcorn on the other. > > (Assuming type a91 is mapped as .zip) > > A zip file called "new" saved under LanMan98 appears on Windows as > "new,a91" while a file "new/zip" appears as "new.zip" > > Under HostFS "new" appears as "new.zip" and "new/zip" turns up as > "new.zip.zip" > > Interestingly HostFS cannot copy a zip file"new" as "new/zip" in the > same directory. > > HostFS is happy to interpret say "new.zip" and "new.jpg" (as seen in > Windows) as two files both named "new" in the same directory but with > different icons, while LanMan98 produces new/zip and new/jpg > respectively. > > Martin A couple of years ago, while I was setting up file sharing using VRPC+HostFS, and Lanman98 to the same PC in each case (in other words, both to the VRPC emulator, via HostFS to the PC disk, and to the Windows system via LanMan to the same disc), I managed to create two apparently identical files in the same directory. By identical I mean that Windows reported the name, size and creation dates as being identical, yet there were TWO files in the one directory. It even let me delete ONE of them! I mention it now because I think the mechanism involved copying a file with and without the /extension corresponding to the RISC OS filetype, e.g. a text file called fred and a text file called fred/txt. (I renamed it between copying attempts). Instead of replacing the file, HostFS seemed to have created an identical duplicate. I also spent considerable time ensuring HostFS's and LanMan98 used the same mappings. Without that step, there was considerable confusion in the file system. -- Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 14 21:15:27 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HndKL-4OCVbs-03-GBa.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HndKL-4OCVbs-03-GBa; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HndKL-4OCVbs-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:13 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HndKK-0006si-Qa for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:23:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 496E86DF9E3; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03792-01; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D89446DF62E; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 12:20:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E08776DF9AB for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03647-04 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9FFC16DF6DB for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cumbrian.demon.co.uk ([62.49.24.36] helo=riscpc.cumbrian.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HndJd-0005j2-3X for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:22:29 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Chris Hughes X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:22:01 +0100 Message-ID: <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> In-Reply-To: <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27S) (RISC-OS/4.39) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 466 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> > Phil wrote: > >> If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added >> >> Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? > > The definitive guide is to add the line > > LanMan98Map ZIP &A91 > > to !LanMan98.Mappings to solve the above problem and double-click on > Mappings to make it take effect immediately. Proceed in a similar way > for any other missing type you might encounter. There is nothing more > to it. Mine had LanMan98Map ZIP &DDC [snip] -- Chris Hughes Don't miss the Wakefield Show - 19th May http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 14 21:15:34 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnfS6-45W000-02-E3p.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnfS6-45W000-02-E3p; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:39:22 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnfS6-45W000-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:39:22 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnfS0-0001f8-GF for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:39:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0DFA96DFDE7; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22566-08; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9462A6DFDAD; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 14:36:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 982D56DFDE7 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22379-08 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1ADB6DFD7D for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML31I-1HnfR21iOF-00046w; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:38:16 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:39:51 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/SfFWmmD9q0mcr06SOzxqd0WS7NGAl5lVt+kk dWvk5BwNE4+exz6NtIJ7c1DuOaNwnn0bI9uydV+h7MpkTHyaTj a9hmTVjFlBOtAHzr+D/QMDJYUlx0g8L X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 467 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> Chris Hughes wrote: > In message <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> > Martin Wuerthner wrote: > >> In message <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> >> Phil wrote: >> >>> If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added >>> >>> Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? >> >> The definitive guide is to add the line >> >> LanMan98Map ZIP &A91 >> >> to !LanMan98.Mappings to solve the above problem and double-click on >> Mappings to make it take effect immediately. Proceed in a similar way >> for any other missing type you might encounter. There is nothing more >> to it. > > Mine had > > LanMan98Map ZIP &DDC Yes, and that entry is correct and should remain. You need to add an additional line as above to add support for the new filetype used for Zip files starting from SparkFS 1.40. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 14 21:15:40 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HngkV-00iVbs-07-ClQ.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:40 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HngkV-00iVbs-07-ClQ; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HngkV-00iVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:27 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HngkU-0006Nu-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2FDCA6DFA89; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00847-03; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A7A786DFAC9; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BBEA26DFA89 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00534-09 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-05.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 15FBE6DFAA1 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.8.213) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.2.073) id 46416FD9000C36DF for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:01:35 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IdxPro To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:01:15 +0200 Message-ID: <526e04e34e.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> <4ee139e7f0john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee139e7f0john@jaharrison.me.uk> X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 469 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@smile.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee139e7f0john@jaharrison.me.uk> John Harrison wrote: > On 11 May, john@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: >> Maybe I'm being thick, but rtfm doesn't help. > > And while I am at it, there must be a way to make the index entry points > visible, because they are visible in the example, but I can't find a way to > turn them on and off. Not quite sure what you mean here. A. David Breakwell's manual: the colours you see on page 14 of his manual refer to an older version of IdxPro and are not used anymore. B. The User's Guide: indeed, I have colour-coded the index entries. This was done by applying a style to the selected words. In the style list named BkMark1. But this style, applied before starting to use IdxPro, has nothing to do with IdxPro. See what is mentioned on page 6 of the Guide: "Colour-marking text for index input". C. The caret should appear at the entry point. If difficult to see try the following: 1. click on the OP document so it has input focus; 2. use a small size (vertically) window so you only see a few lines at a time. Makes it easier to find the caret. I too would like to be able to have a more visible option of showing the entry points. Hope this helps. -- Greetings, JohnvV From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Mon May 14 21:15:41 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HngkW-00pVbs-05-ClP.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HngkW-00pVbs-05-ClP; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HngkW-00pVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:28 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HngkS-00030u-J0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 57C266DFA04; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00809-09; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EA4136DFAB5; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 565776DFA04 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00534-06 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-ps.sunrise.ch (mta-ps-be-05.sunrise.ch [194.158.229.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0AC056DFA6F for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.8.213) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.2.073) id 46416FD9000C36DE for davidpilling@freelists.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:01:34 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IdxPro To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: JMAH van Vredenburch X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:44:16 +0200 Message-ID: <7fe002e34e.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 468 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: janvredenburch@smile.ch Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> John Harrison wrote: > Maybe I'm being thick, but rtfm doesn't help. .... I agree, presuming you mean the manual that goes with the applet. You might also like to read the guide I wrote. To be found at http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/applets.html > I'm adding index entries to a book - more than can be done in a single > session - so when I resume, I want to go to the last entry to pick up > where I left off.. I can't find a way to do this, other than keep > clicking the up arrow in the review button, while O-Pro renders every > page that has an entry. Is there a better way? Yes. Just select any odd word and add it to the index. It will be added as last entry. Delete it and you are now back at your prior last entry. -- Greetings, JohnvV From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 11:47:36 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnhpK-32eVbs-06-Bgb.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:47:36 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnhpK-32eVbs-06-Bgb; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:11:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnhpK-32eVbs-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:11:30 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnhpK-0007D0-76 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:11:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E30BF6DFD98; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09439-06; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 958EF6DFD21; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D222C6DFD5C for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09281-07 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5707E6DFD58 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20070514211043.NWYQ12560.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:10:43 +0100 Received: from risco.home ([81.111.53.184]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20070514211043.YVHZ29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@risco.home> for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:10:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:41:13 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 470 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In on Sun 13 May, Alan Adams wrote: > In message <4d8566e24e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> > Martin Devon wrote: > > > In message > > David Pilling wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> I think a lot of people have trouble with this area, > >> pity that there's no fix. In other words next week this topic will start > >> again somewhere > >> > > At the risk of stirring up more mud, there is an interesting > > difference in the mapping schemes between LanMan98 or Sunfish on one > > hand and HostFS in VirtualAcorn on the other. > > > > (Assuming type a91 is mapped as .zip) > > > > A zip file called "new" saved under LanMan98 appears on Windows as > > "new,a91" while a file "new/zip" appears as "new.zip" > > > > Under HostFS "new" appears as "new.zip" and "new/zip" turns up as > > "new.zip.zip" > > > > Interestingly HostFS cannot copy a zip file"new" as "new/zip" in the > > same directory. > > > > HostFS is happy to interpret say "new.zip" and "new.jpg" (as seen in > > Windows) as two files both named "new" in the same directory but with > > different icons, while LanMan98 produces new/zip and new/jpg > > respectively. > > > > Martin > > A couple of years ago, while I was setting up file sharing using > VRPC+HostFS, and Lanman98 to the same PC in each case (in other words, > both to the VRPC emulator, via HostFS to the PC disk, and to the > Windows system via LanMan to the same disc), I managed to create two > apparently identical files in the same directory. By identical I mean > that Windows reported the name, size and creation dates as being > identical, yet there were TWO files in the one directory. It even let > me delete ONE of them! Windows was probably hiding file extensions of registered files. Just as on RISC OS, if there are 2 files they have different names, even if Windows is "helpfully" hiding part of the name and making them appear the same. > I mention it now because I think the mechanism involved copying a file > with and without the /extension corresponding to the RISC OS filetype, > e.g. a text file called fred and a text file called fred/txt. (I > renamed it between copying attempts). Instead of replacing the file, > HostFS seemed to have created an identical duplicate. Because .txt files are registered in Windows to Notepad by default fred.txt will often show as fred in the explorer window with a textfile icon and the file fred without extension will have the windows "unknown filetype" icon. > I also spent considerable time ensuring HostFS's and LanMan98 used the > same mappings. Without that step, there was considerable confusion in the > file system. > Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 11:47:43 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnjNX-2jNGPo-06-A8O.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:47:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnjNX-2jNGPo-06-A8O; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:50:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnjNX-2jNGPo-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:50:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnjNW-00069X-Nz for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:50:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F267B6DF508; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19337-06; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 871CA6DF186; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Mon, 14 May 2007 18:48:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7E8736DF508 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19160-09 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 2685C6DF0A9 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.42.140] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1HnjMo16uw-0004Cw; Tue, 15 May 2007 00:50:10 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: <200d14e34e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee03e0b9bphil.c@heter.co.uk> <4642EB5D.5080500@voip.co.uk> <4ee0f7b2b4phil.c@heter.co.uk> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee138775dphilco@heter.co.uk> <82bf3ae14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+m0q3Nb1nOdnNWn5NK1nLSvwTqQ9YwUBBRqj6 WQ4c0ZvFO83N31h3xqY9DSuAiwbDlACH2lhXiWW3Hx3TuTQjea gDcCQ/q/pcb3XAkAUaIMdujvtyL6K9y X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 471 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <385cf0e24e.chris@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> > Chris Hughes wrote: >> In message <2ee03de14e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> >> Martin Wuerthner wrote: >>> In message <4ee13c82a5philco@heter.co.uk> >>> Phil wrote: >>> >>>> If I transfer a zip file from RO to the XP machine I get ,a91 added >>>> >>>> Maybe I should be updating the MAP. A definitive guide anyone?? >>> >>> The definitive guide is to add the line >>> >>> LanMan98Map ZIP &A91 >>> >>> to !LanMan98.Mappings to solve the above problem and double-click on >>> Mappings to make it take effect immediately. Proceed in a similar way >>> for any other missing type you might encounter. There is nothing more >>> to it. Famous last words... There is a bit more to it. See below. >> Mine had >> >> LanMan98Map ZIP &DDC > > Yes, and that entry is correct and should remain. You need to add an > additional line as above to add support for the new filetype used for > Zip files starting from SparkFS 1.40. My advice to keep the old mapping line as well does not make any sense because the second mapping actually overrides the first, so you need to decide whether you want to keep the DDC or the A91 mapping for .zip files. In contrast to the MimeMap that allows you to map a single DOS extension to several RISC OS types, LanMan98 has to have a unique type mapping for each extension, otherwise it would not know as which RISC OS type to present a .zip file found at the PC end. Unfortunately, that means that it cannot support both (old) DDC and (new) A91 typed Zip archives when copying from RISC OS to the PC. Files of one of the two types always get ,xxx extensions, so which of the two mappings you choose depends on which Zip file type you use more often. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 11:48:10 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HnsfJ-2UYknw-01-9N8.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:48:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HnsfJ-2UYknw-01-9N8; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:45:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HnsfJ-2UYknw-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:45:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HnsfI-0001Kv-Tr for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:45:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3425F6E028A; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15500-10; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B9B666E02A9; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 04:43:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F20E56E02A5 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15369-03 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74B486E0289 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Ionyx. (dsl82-163-139-226.as15444.net [82.163.139.226]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4F8iv3A005616 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 09:44:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Harrison To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:46:56 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IdxPro Message-ID: <4ee34a8818john@jaharrison.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <7fe002e34e.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> <7fe002e34e.janvred@smile.ch> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 472 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: john@jaharrison.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <7fe002e34e.janvred@smile.ch>, JMAH van Vredenburch wrote: > You might also like to read the guide I wrote. To be found at > http://www.chris-johnson.org/ovationpro/applets.html Very helpful - thanks. > > ... when I resume, I want to go to the last entry to pick up > > where I left off.. I can't find a way to do this, other than keep > > clicking the up arrow in the review button, while O-Pro renders every > > page that has an entry. Is there a better way? > Yes. Just select any odd word and add it to the index. It will be > added as last entry. Delete it and you are now back at your prior last > entry. Yes. I discovered that trick, but there is a related, and worse problem. Having created an initial index, I and my co-author reviewed it. So I want to go through the entries, changing some, deleting some and adding some. I would like to be able to go directly to whichever entry needs attention - I know its page number. But the only way I can get to it is to use the bump arrows to go all the way from the start. To reduce this chore (I have a few hundred index entries) I try to scan the marked up index so I can make changes in page order. That is a real chore, but breaks down as soon as ... I add an entry. The new entry is at the end of the list, so even if it is on page 27, the the bump arrows now only take me to the previous item added, which might be on page 5 or on page 142. I can't find a way round this, even in your excellent guide (unless I read it too hastily). > > And while I am at it, there must be a way to make the index entry > > points visible, because they are visible in the example, but I can't > > find a way to turn them on and off. > Not quite sure what you mean here. > A. David Breakwell's manual: the colours you see on page 14 of his > manual refer to an older version of IdxPro and are not used anymore. It wasn't the manual, it was the example supplied, where index entries are shown in cyan. > B. The User's Guide: indeed, I have colour-coded the index entries. > This was done by applying a style to the selected words. In the style > list named BkMark1. But this style, applied before starting to use > IdxPro, has nothing to do with IdxPro. See what is mentioned on page 6 > of the Guide: "Colour-marking text for index input". I was looking for the ability to 'show' or 'hide' all index entries, so I could see quickly what is there while reviewing and revising them. I don't think what you describe would do that. > C. The caret should appear at the entry point. It does, but that was not what I was looking for, as above. John -- John Harrison - http://www.jaharrison.me.uk Message sent from a British built Iyonix PC running RISC-OS 5 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 11:48:11 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Hnu2W-22CGPo-07-GWR.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:48:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Hnu2W-22CGPo-07-GWR; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:13:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Hnu2W-22CGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:13:56 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Hnu2V-0005ye-NR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:13:56 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D979F6E0031; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25407-09; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7119E6DFF34; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 06:11:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9933F6E0031 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25294-01 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BB9DB6DFFD0 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 06:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rpc.rayhome (dsl82-163-190-223.as15444.net [82.163.190.223]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with SMTP id l4FACq4X008607 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:13:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:07:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: IdxPro Message-ID: <4ee351e12eray@rayfavre.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4ee34a8818john@jaharrison.me.uk> References: <4ee1379d88john@jaharrison.me.uk> <7fe002e34e.janvred@smile.ch> <4ee34a8818john@jaharrison.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 473 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: ray@rayfavre.me.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <4ee34a8818john@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison wrote: > I would like to be able to go directly to whichever entry needs > attention - I know its page number. But the only way I can get to > it is to use the bump arrows to go all the way from the start. To > reduce this chore (I have a few hundred index entries) I try to > scan the marked up index so I can make changes in page order. That > is a real chore, but breaks down as soon as ... > I add an entry. The new entry is at the end of the list, so even > if it is on page 27, the the bump arrows now only take me to the > previous item added, which might be on page 5 or on page 142. > I can't find a way round this, even in your excellent guide (unless > I read it too hastily). This has some echoes of the recent thread on 'Searching for Styles' .... -- Regards from Ray Favre. Email at: Web site at: Tel: (+44) (0)1895 444410 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 20:08:00 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho2HT-0OSknw-05-Go0.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:08:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho2HT-0OSknw-05-Go0; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:01:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho2HT-0OSknw-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:01:55 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho2HK-0004xT-Ep for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:01:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED1446E06EE; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03495-10; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 84D2D6E071F; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F4616E06EE for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03100-03 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 747CE6E0745 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAANKfSUbUSnILk2dsb2JhbACQAAIBAQcGCAwf Received: from [88.105.231.19] (port=10262 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ho2GP-000N5g-B1 for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 20:00:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:00:59 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 474 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 11 May, dfs@ukgateway.net wrote: > In article <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, > Alan Adams wrote: > [Snip] > > Generally you want notypes set to no. > > However, if > > 1 you want to use the files from both RISC OS and Windows > > and > > 2 you have given file extensions (e.g. /TXT) to all relevant files > > and > > 3 you haven't got correct definitions for ALL PC filetypes inside > > Lanman98 > > then you might want to turn notypes on. > > The reason is that files without extensions which also don't pick up a > > type from the mappings file will gain a ,nnn tail, which Windows > > doesn't like. > > However with notypes set, you can't handle RISC OS applications > > because the runimage, sprites, run and obey files all end up as text > > filetypes (when seen from RISC OS). > Indeed, you've reminded me why I had it set the way it was. > Aside from you lot... All my customers that have computers systems, are > using MS-Windows, so when I sent them attachments, they would be very > confused by a file called "Refurb.Jpg,c85" or "Modification.Dxf,dea > So I set it with Notypes Y and forgot why. > Now I've remembered... If I continue to remember, I'll change it when I > want to transport RO stuff... Then change it back again afterwards. > Cheers > Dave S Y'know how, when you take someones advice against your own judgement and it turns out to be wrong, how pissed off you feel. Well that's just happened to me, I knew there was a reason why I had Notypes in LM98 set to "Y" and against my better judgement I switched all my LM shares to "N". I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single ...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" AND it's no good saying it's because the Mappings file doesn't contain an entry for it. Well &fff Text is already there, and I read recently, and have just tested it, you can have only one mapping per type. Pah! GD. -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Tue May 15 22:08:06 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho4AN-1EPVbs-01-Ev6.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:08:06 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho4AN-1EPVbs-01-Ev6; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:02:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho4AN-1EPVbs-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:02:43 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho4AH-0005Kj-B0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:02:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E93C36E0A7E; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23236-04; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7B0BD6E0B34; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 16:59:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 820B66E0A7E for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22869-10 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E49BD6E0A0D for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Ho48s-0006n4-AV for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:01:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:00:03 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation stripping blank mail merge fields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 475 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Hi, Long ago, someone pointed out to me that his mail merge data had a fixed number of fields for addresses. The problem was that not all addresses had data for all the fields and the post code was in a separate field at the end. The result was that he would end up with blank lines between the address and the post code in the final merged document. Ovation Pro has a system of "fields" which can contain script language. Using these it is possible to remove blank fields from mail merge data. All this is described in the Ovation Pro reference manual - see chapter 12. Today someone came to me with a problem, their mail merged document looked a mess. It turned out that the data contained not just blank fields in the address, but in other fields. The script language function that does all the work of stripping blank fields, is: string merge_strip(int n,int max) and it lives in the file Library.!MergeLib Now it turns out that this function finds the n'th non-blank field starting from the first field in the record. Looking at it today that seems rather limited, it makes the big assumption that there is probably just a name before the address. Anyway I defined a new function: -------------------------------------------------8<---------------------- -------------- string merge_strip2(int n,int min,int max) { int i=min; int j=0; while(j for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:18:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho4Mn-1lUVbs-02-Eig; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:15:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho4Mn-1lUVbs-02 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:15:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho4Mm-00066L-QZ for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:15:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B1C6A6DFC07; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25031-03; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 563AD6E0B73; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7211F6E0B24 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24883-05 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D6EBA6E034A for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Ho4Lw-00050E-Gu for davidpilling@freelists.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:14:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:13:24 +0100 To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 476 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: flist@pilling.demon.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes writes >I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single >...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" Can anyone suggest a good smart rename utility.... I'm sure they must exist for Windows. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:47:47 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho4cH-2NgVbs-08-ETC.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:47:47 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho4cH-2NgVbs-08-ETC; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:31:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho4cH-2NgVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:31:33 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho4cF-00049s-UO for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8CD8E6DFFFF; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27436-09; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 25FEA6E00CE; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 339A56DFFFF for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27201-04 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A87FB6E002C for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [88.134.217.60] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1Ho4bX0Ynz-00042K; Tue, 15 May 2007 23:30:47 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.34 Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:32:25 +0200 Message-ID: <509d90e34e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.23 (MsgServe/3.26) (RISC-OS/5.11) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/JCtqCwzXQdbyJ1hzbVu6+FFosvxVGmEvaG72 wMT0UurDr0jP6oiunUE11jNXz3jHoVYam4b1Y2cl5d0L7kxia5 BuPXqC/XbUuk/X0NDUuZXswqrc8w2/2 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 477 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: public@mw-software.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > Y'know how, when you take someones advice against your own judgement and > it turns out to be wrong, how pissed off you feel. I think you are a bit too quick. > Well that's just happened to me, I knew there was a reason why I had > Notypes in LM98 set to "Y" and against my better judgement I switched all > my LM shares to "N". > > I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single > ...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" > > AND it's no good saying it's because the Mappings file doesn't contain an > entry for it. Why? That is precisely the reason for your problem. > Well &fff Text is already there, and I read recently, and have just tested > it, you can have only one mapping per type. Nonsense. Even the default mappings have dozens of types mapped to &fff. Simply map .eml to &fff and everything will work fine. What you cannot do is map a single DOS extension to several RISC OS types, but you can map several DOS extensions to the same RISC OS type without any problems. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:47:50 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho5jX-0FOGPo-07-DLw.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:47:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho5jX-0FOGPo-07-DLw; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho5jX-0FOGPo-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:07 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho5jT-00069Q-RW for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E8CEF6E0981; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08406-07; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 845936E0953; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 18:40:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD9BF6E0981 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08220-10 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from guri.is.scarlet.be (guri.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.22]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 812806E096C for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from (ip-81-11-186-162.dsl.scarlet.be [81.11.186.162]) by guri.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id l4FMfx615635 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 00:41:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:41:42 +0200 From: John Tytgat To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <06f596e34e.Jo@hobbes.bass-software.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: BASS User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/6.06) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: guri 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 478 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: John.Tytgat@aaug.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message you wrote: > In message <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes > writes > >I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single > >...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" > > Can anyone suggest a good smart rename utility.... I'm sure they must > exist for Windows. The cmd.exe's "for" & "rename" could be used. cfr "for /?" for its posibilities. John. -- John Tytgat, in his comfy chair at home BASS John.Tytgat@aaug.net ARM powered, RISC OS driven From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:02 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho9VS-3k7000-04-9a1.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho9VS-3k7000-04-9a1; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:44:50 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho9VS-3k7000-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:44:50 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho9VS-0005Sf-9G for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:44:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 40E906DFC9D; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32376-09; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D53656DFC8C; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 22:42:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 14B7D6E0B67 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32259-03 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.141]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 70F9D6DFC8C for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:42:18 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,538,1170595800"; d="scan'208";a="124630607" Received: from ppp12-62.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([59.167.12.62]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 May 2007 12:13:55 +0930 Message-ID: <464A6FF7.9050800@internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:44:07 +1000 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ovation software list Subject: [softwarelist] Columns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 479 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain How do I get 15 or more columns in a document? the limit seems to be 10. My wife is modifying/creating a scrabble dictionary for 2 and 3 letter words. And no they are not in any sensible dictionary and spell checking is impossible and most do not have any general/usable meaning anyway:-)) Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:03 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ho9Za-3qc000-06-9Vt.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ho9Za-3qc000-06-9Vt; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:49:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ho9Za-3qc000-06 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:49:06 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ho9ZZ-0003r9-Q0 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:49:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D88D46E0934; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00462-09; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 76ED66E0984; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Tue, 15 May 2007 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 319966E0934 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00393-02 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.bordernet.com.au (mail.bordernet.com.au [203.221.25.2]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id 5C74D6E05D0 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27643 invoked from network); 16 May 2007 12:48:18 +1000 Received: from unknown (HELO Annascue.farmstay.proxy.omninet.net.au) (203.123.117.198) by mail.bordernet.com.au with SMTP; 16 May 2007 12:48:18 +1000 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Columns To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Ross McGuinness X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:48:47 +0900 Message-ID: References: <464A6FF7.9050800@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <464A6FF7.9050800@internode.on.net> X-Organization: Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 480 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: farmstay@denmarkwa.com.au Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In message <464A6FF7.9050800@internode.on.net> Peter Prewett wrote: > How do I get 15 or more columns in a document? the limit seems to > be 10. If you create frames and link them is there a limit? > My wife is modifying/creating a scrabble dictionary for 2 and 3 > letter words. > And no they are not in any sensible dictionary and spell checking > is impossible and most do not have any general/usable meaning > anyway:-)) > Peter -- Ross and Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay, RMB 1017 DENMARK WA 6333 Tel: +61 8 9848 1781 Fax: +61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/ From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:03 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoDFc-0O4Vbs-05-EMN.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoDFc-0O4Vbs-05-EMN; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:44:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoDFc-0O4Vbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:44:44 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoDFc-0005cE-HR for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:44:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6C0BA6E059B; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17078-06; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0EF426E062E; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 199486E059B for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17000-02 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-ironport-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.23]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B062A6E0357 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:15 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEpFSkbUSnIMk2dsb2JhbACQCAIBAQcGCAcFHw Received: from [88.105.180.229] (port=10079 helo=dave.nom) by mk-relay-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HoDEv-0007aR-Br for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:44:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: davidpilling@freelists.org Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:20:47 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? Message-ID: <4ee3c0fc99dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <509d90e34e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> <509d90e34e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 481 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dfs@ukgateway.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <509d90e34e.martin@bach.planiverse.com>, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > Nonsense. Even the default mappings have dozens of types mapped to > &fff. Simply map .eml to &fff and everything will work fine. > What you cannot do is map a single DOS extension to several RISC OS > types, but you can map several DOS extensions to the same RISC OS type > without any problems. > Martin Sorry about my fit of pique yesterday... bad day all round and then the file transfer. Grrr! Anyhow back to he plot. Yes Martin you are correct. I've been messing some more with the mappings file and it now *does* work. Cheers Dave S -- From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:03 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoDLK-0ZHVbs-05-EGf.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoDLK-0ZHVbs-05-EGf; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:50:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoDLK-0ZHVbs-05 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:50:38 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoDLK-0005WF-DM for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 06:50:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id CF5326DF56C; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17584-05; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 694E46E038A; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6214E6E01D6 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17454-08 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (slave.orpheusnet.co.uk [194.93.128.26]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 13E126E015B for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 02:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Iyonix.pnyoung.ormail.co.uk (dsl82-163-38-243.as15444.net [82.163.38.243]) by slave.orpheusnet.co.uk (8.13.7/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4G6njXk010877 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:49:46 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? To: davidpilling@freelists.org From: Dr Peter Young X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.36 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 07:45:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/4.24 (MsgServe/3.27) (RISC-OS/5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-orpheus-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 482 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pnyoung@ormail.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain On 15 May 2007 Dave Symes wrote: [snip] > Y'know how, when you take someones advice against your own judgement and > it turns out to be wrong, how pissed off you feel. My advice was to have two otherwise identical shares in LanMan98, one with Notypes on and one with Notypes off. Then you can do whichever you want with no problem. Go thou and do likewise, as a cure for the grumps :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / __ __ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \______________ pnyoung@ormail.co.uk. From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:04 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoDeL-1FEVbs-04-Dxe.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoDeL-1FEVbs-04-Dxe; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:10:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoDeL-1FEVbs-04 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:10:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoDeK-0004xL-0j for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:10:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 086956E0862; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18921-04; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A088F6E0975; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 03:07:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1876D6E0862 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18780-10 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.141]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 909AC6E070C for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:07:32 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,541,1170595800"; d="scan'208";a="124766559" Received: from ppp12-62.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([59.167.12.62]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 May 2007 16:39:05 +0930 Message-ID: <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 17:09:16 +1000 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ovation software list Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Columns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: pprewett@internode.on.net Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain The Master Page set-up cannot go above 10 columns in page and it only allows a change to the guttering or column width not both. I have tried creating as a master page the 15 frames, with a right hand border, butted up to each other across the page and linking them. It is a long winded process as it requires copy and pasting left to right and then going right to left to bring each frame to the front to ensure the borders are showing and then going back to the document and no borders. It appears that one cannot but up (columned) frames with a border, master page with borders and the document no borders. It may be that I need to create a space between each frame. The original file has 4 pages of 10 columns and saving the text and pasting into the new document with 15 linked frames (columns) does not create new pages. One has to create sufficient blank pages first before pasting. I thought that making a the master page that any text overflow would automatically create a new frame. I need linked columns that will hold 2 letter words, 3 letter words etc. I have spent some time trying to get it right but it looks like a number of work arounds are needed. Thanks for reading. Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:04 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoEFo-2xGVbs-07-DMB.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoEFo-2xGVbs-07-DMB; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:49:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoEFo-2xGVbs-07 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:49:00 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoEFj-0004av-0k for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:49:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DD3186DF94D; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23831-10; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7EC8B6DFC7E; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0620B6DF94D for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23609-10 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.133]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id BD80A6DF724 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 03:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [84.51.145.120] (helo=rpc) by pih-relay06.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1HoEE3-0008VQ-5u for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 08:47:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robin Hampshire To: Ovation software list Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:46:14 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Columns Message-ID: <4ee3c8cfa9robin@brushford.com> In-Reply-To: <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net> References: <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/6.06) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 484 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: robin@brushford.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett wrote: > I have tried creating as a master page the 15 frames, with a > right hand border, butted up to each other across the page and > linking them. It's a fairly quick operation, and seems to work quite well, to compromise between the two processes and create three linked frames with 5 columns each. Three frames makes the maths easy as you simply make them all the same size, leaving whatever gap between them as is necessary to separate each column evenly. If your borders are horizontal as well as vertical, then create solid horizontal lines to coincide with the frame tops/bottoms. > The original file has 4 pages of 10 columns and saving the text and > pasting into the new document with 15 linked frames (columns) does not > create new pages. One has to create sufficient blank pages first before > pasting. I thought that making a the master page that any text > overflow would automatically create a new frame. You have to link the final frame back to the first one (on the master page). You will be told that you're about to create an auto-chain link, but that's ok 'cos that's what you want. That way, at the end of each page OPro will create a new one for you and flow the text into it. regards, -- Robin Hampshire robin@brushford.com From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:08 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoFE2-24UGPo-03-CNx.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoFE2-24UGPo-03-CNx; Wed, 16 May 2007 08:51:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoFE2-24UGPo-03 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 08:51:14 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoFE1-0004Mq-4Q for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 08:51:14 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B48A06DFB46; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32102-08; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5994E6DFDCF; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 04:48:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A38846DFB46 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31837-06 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net (outmail1.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.237]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 6CE276DF724 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 04:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dave.davespace.co.uk [83.67.125.28]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698D350416 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:50:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <464AC5D2.7040901@davespace.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:50:26 +0100 From: David Thomas Organization: davespace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 485 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: dave@davespace.co.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain David Pilling wrote: > In message <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes > writes >> I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single >> ...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" > > Can anyone suggest a good smart rename utility.... I'm sure they must > exist for Windows. Siren: http://www.scarabee-software.net/en/siren.html From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 11:48:08 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoFUX-0HN000-01-C7S.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:48:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoFUX-0HN000-01-C7S; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:08:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoFUX-0HN000-01 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:08:17 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoFUW-0002W0-LW for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:08:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 489746DFFB1; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01286-09; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id DFA486E061E; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 05:05:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F07366DFFB1 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01183-02 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta1.iss.soton.ac.uk (mta1.iss.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.83]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 9C4066DFE0D for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 05:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.78.163.173] (biota.biochem.soton.ac.uk [152.78.163.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by mta1.iss.soton.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4G96ov4014211 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 10:06:55 +0100 Message-ID: <464AC9B0.5020403@soton.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:06:56 +0100 From: "M.Bellamy" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davidpilling@freelists.org Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SparkFS 1.41 (RISC OS) - Zip size max? References: <4ee0eb289edfs@ukgateway.net> <8bdbede04e.martin@bach.planiverse.com> <4ee0f8aa76dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee0fb9e8edfs@ukgateway.net> <7184fce04e.Martin@heleigh.org.uk> <3852ffe04e.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> <4ee1334571dfs@ukgateway.net> <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ISS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ISS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.599, required 8, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 486 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: M.Bellamy@soton.ac.uk Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain David Pilling wrote: > In message <4ee382bfc8dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes > writes >> I've just transferred a load of .eml files to the Laptop and every single >> ...king one now has "Name.eml,fff" > > Can anyone suggest a good smart rename utility.... I'm sure they must > exist for Windows. Rename's pretty good and quite RISC OS-esque in that there's no installation required, just drop the .exe where you want it. http://www.1-4a.com/rename/download.htm Matt From davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Wed May 16 12:27:49 2007 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1HoHef-0gSVbs-08-9xK.pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 12:27:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1HoHef-0gSVbs-08-9xK; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:26:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1HoHef-0gSVbs-08 for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:26:53 +0000 Received: from [206.53.239.180] (helo=turing.freelists.org) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1HoHee-0005fy-JX for flist@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:26:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 591266E03CC; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15202-06; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E767D6E03CF; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list davidpilling); Wed, 16 May 2007 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Delivered-To: davidpilling@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 46A7E6E03CC for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15127-01 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 0F9806E015E for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newble.demon.co.uk ([80.176.249.168] helo=iyonix.iyonix) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HoHdu-000Oqd-Ks for davidpilling@freelists.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:26:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: P C Newble To: Ovation software list Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:15:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Columns Message-ID: <4ee3dbf172peter@newble.com> In-Reply-To: <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net> References: <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.11) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain X-archive-position: 487 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: davidpilling-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: peter@newble.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: davidpilling@freelists.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: davidpilling X-List-ID: davidpilling List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: davidpilling X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain In article <464AAE1C.4000802@internode.on.net>, Peter Prewett wrote: > The Master Page set-up cannot go above 10 columns in page and > it only allows a change to the guttering or column width not > both. One is dependent on the other, i.e. page width = (column width * no. of columns) + (guttering + (no. of columns - 1). So, having set the width of a given frame and the number of columns within it, you can then choose either the width of the columns or of the guttering between them, but not both. But if you want (say) 20 frames to a page just create two equal-width frames and link them, and make each one ten columns (and make sure that the space between the frames is the same as the guttering between the columns). For 15 columns perhaps three frames each of five columns to make the maths simpler! > I have tried creating as a master page the 15 frames, with a > right hand border, butted up to each other across the page and > linking them. It is a long winded process as it requires copy > and pasting left to right . . . . . . or Object > Duplicate to make things easier and more precise . . . > . .. and then going right to left to bring each frame to the > front to ensure the borders are showing and then going back to > the document and no borders. It appears that one cannot but up > (columned) frames with a border, master page with borders and > the document no borders. It may be that I need to create a > space between each frame. Yes, the border is outside the frame, so to have to frames with their borders abutting the space between them must be twice the border width. Again, easy to control precisely if you use Object > Duplicate > The original file has 4 pages of 10 columns and saving the > text and pasting into the new document with 15 linked frames > (columns) does not create new pages. One has to create > sufficient blank pages first before pasting. I thought that > making a the master page that any text overflow would > automatically create a new frame. It sounds as if you haven't created an autolink chain: as well as linking the first to the second, second to third, etc., you also ned to link the last back to the first. This is shown as a green arrow, whereas the earlier links are black arrows. If you create a 'Default master frame' when creating a document this master frame is automatically linked to itself in this way: one green arrow linking the frame back onto itself. > I have spent some time trying to get it right but it looks > like a number of work arounds are needed. No, this is all standard stuff, although I hadn't realised there was a limit