From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 5 13:50:32 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYEUs-3QCVbs-04-1CMX."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:50:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYEUs-3QCVbs-04-1CMX; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:13:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYEUs-3QCVbs-04; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:13:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYEUs-00053o-BY; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:13:38 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYDUj-0005qz-Jp; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:09:25 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYESR-0002lW-Ha for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:11:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYESR-0002lP-60 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:11:07 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EYESQ-000K7x-Ar for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:09:43 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: SynchDiscs on Windows XP References: <4dafa4cccabarry@e-allen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, >> > > I'm trying to Synchronise Disc 'C' with Disc 'E' on a Windows XP We were talking a few weeks ago about file synchronising tools for Windows. I notice that MS have joined the game, with something called SyncToy. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 5 15:00:31 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYPVt-1TO000-06-11LW."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:00:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYPVt-1TO000-06-11LW; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:59:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYPVt-1TO000-06; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:59:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYPVt-0002xD-DF; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:59:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYOc6-00053M-DP; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:01:46 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYPTn-0003mp-B2 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:15 +0000 Received: from [195.188.213.4] (helo=smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYPTm-0003mZ-VQ for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:14 +0000 Received: from Iyonix ([82.34.222.136]) by smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:58:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John M Ward To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SynchDiscs on Windows XP Message-ID: <4dc517afd8john@acornusers.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4dafa4cccabarry@e-allen.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 14:58:06.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[543D7220:01C5E219] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > >> > > I'm trying to Synchronise Disc 'C' with Disc 'E' on a Windows > >> > > XP My experiences have always been that it is extremely difficult to achieve any kind of real synchronisation on Microsoft systems, because of their underlying nature. Indeed, it has been stated in various places (by those with far greater experience than I of modern MS set-ups) that it is of dubious value anyway. Even so, I use Acronis TrueImage on a monthly basis to take a complete "snapshot" of my sole Wintel box -- really just as added insurance, over and above backing-up my "Documents and Settings" files. It is the underlying opacity of MS systems that makes it difficult for those of us brought up on straightforward systems such as RISC OS to understand why this is such a major issue. I think it probably stems from American culture in general -- it's just how they do things there. > We were talking a few weeks ago about file synchronising tools for > Windows. I notice that MS have joined the game, with something called > SyncToy. Hmm. Good name: synchronise one toy with another... ;-> -- John Ward : RISC OS computing since 1987, now Iyonix-powered & A9home! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers Read my "Councilling RISC OS" series in Qercus, starting in Issue 276 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 5 18:20:41 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYScP-1LLknw-06-yF0."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:20:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYScP-1LLknw-06-yF0; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:18:21 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYScP-1LLknw-06; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:18:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYScP-00023q-11; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:18:21 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYSf9-0004yA-1B; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:21:11 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYSaX-0002Fk-Lb for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:16:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYSaX-0002Fe-1L for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:16:25 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EYSaW-0004tv-Br for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:16:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:14:46 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Web site update (Windows) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I've updated the Ovation Pro for Windows CD to version 1.04. See: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/changes.html for what is new. If you've got the previous version it is probably not worth bothering with this one. This update is concerned with making the installers offer the correct default location on XP 64. Similarly I've updated CrossStar, Trace and Calendar (for Windows). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYiMO-1z7GPo-04-1P7b."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYiMO-1z7GPo-04-1P7b; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:53 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYiMO-1z7GPo-04; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:53 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYiMO-0001Vc-DO; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYiMN-0004mX-J8; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:51 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYiKJ-0002vO-SH for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:04:43 +0000 Received: from [212.126.144.54] (helo=relay.freeuk.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYiKJ-0002vI-JI for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:04:43 +0000 Received: from adsl-165-126.freeuk.com ([80.168.165.126] helo=HOBBIT.rogerarm.freeuk.com) by relay.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EYiKJ-0006RN-6m for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:04:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32-bit TransImp To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Roger Darlington X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:04:35 GMT Message-ID: <563086c54d.rogerarm@rogerarm.freeuk.com> References: <9efe72344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <919f8b344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <919f8b344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) OPro 2.75 for RO 5.10 (Iyonix) Attempts to save a file with the filename: 2005_05_25_Brinnington_ReddishVale_TameValley_GuideBridge_MJ always results in a type 5 error. It does actually save it, but the saved file cannot be re-loaded back into Opro without this type5 error. I have tried reducing the path name to as short as possible, so it seems to be the filename length that it doesn't like. Zap has no difficulty loading the file, so it cannot be a RO 5.10 issue. -- Cheers Roger Bury Walkers http://burywalkers.members.beeb.net/ Atomic Software http://rogerdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Summer Winers http://rogerarm.freeuk.com/rogerarm/ If you start nowhere, you'll finish up in the same place -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:34 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYiOD-1XtGPo-05-182k."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYiOD-1XtGPo-05-182k; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:08:46 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYiOD-1XtGPo-05; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:08:46 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYiOD-0001fn-Ia; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:08:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYhf8-00049m-VX; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:22:10 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYiM7-00034N-9k for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:35 +0000 Received: from [212.126.144.54] (helo=relay.freeuk.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYiM7-00034I-59 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:35 +0000 Received: from adsl-165-126.freeuk.com ([80.168.165.126] helo=HOBBIT.rogerarm.freeuk.com) by relay.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EYiM6-0007O9-9D for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:35 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] Type 5 error on saving, or re-loading To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Roger Darlington X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:06:26 GMT Message-ID: References: <9efe72344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <919f8b344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <919f8b344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) OPro 2.75 for RO 5.10 (Iyonix) Attempts to save a file with the filename: 2005_05_25_Brinnington_ReddishVale_TameValley_GuideBridge_MJ always results in a type 5 error. It does actually save it, but the saved file cannot be re-loaded back into Opro without this type5 error. I have tried reducing the path name to as short as possible, so it seems to be the filename length that it doesn't like. Zap has no difficulty loading the file, so it cannot be a RO 5.10 issue. -- Cheers Roger Bury Walkers http://burywalkers.members.beeb.net/ Atomic Software http://rogerdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Summer Winers http://rogerarm.freeuk.com/rogerarm/ If you start nowhere, you'll finish up in the same place -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:43 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYmfk-4TiVbs-06-miB."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYmfk-4TiVbs-06-miB; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:43:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYmfk-4TiVbs-06; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:43:08 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYmfk-00021Y-6Q; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:43:08 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYlwa-00079t-FE; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:56:28 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYkCM-0000sD-95 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:04:38 +0000 Received: from [212.126.144.54] (helo=relay.freeuk.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYkCL-0000s7-W0 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:04:38 +0000 Received: from adsl-165-126.freeuk.com ([80.168.165.126] helo=HOBBIT.rogerarm.freeuk.com) by relay.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EYkCL-000MSI-8a for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:04:37 +0000 Subject: [softwarelist] long-standing anomaly in OPro To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Roger Darlington X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:04:30 GMT Message-ID: X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Here is a long-standing anomaly in OvPro. It's been here for at least 5 years, possible since inception? Drag a text file (or write it yourself in OPro) into a double-column OvPro page. Make sure that there's sufficient text to spill into the second column. Now select 'abc/red underline/green tick' (show spelling errors). Now click on the second icon down on the right (to make a text frame). Help shows it as 'Click select to show the Frame Tool' amongst half a dozen other uses. now draw a full-width box from bottom left upwards to crush the text so that both columns of text occupy near-equal lengths without over-spill onto another page. Now select the arrow (first icon on the left) and try to put the cursor into the text to alter something you've just spotted. the cursor wont go in. try again, and again, and again, keep trying. Eventually it might appear. -- Cheers Roger Bury Walkers http://burywalkers.members.beeb.net/ Atomic Software http://rogerdarlington.members.beeb.net/ Summer Winers http://rogerarm.freeuk.com/rogerarm/ Feel rich. Smoke a diamond in your kimberlite pipe -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:50 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYo32-0XTVbs-08-12Nv."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYo32-0XTVbs-08-12Nv; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:11:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYo32-0XTVbs-08; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:11:16 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYo31-0000ck-SL; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:11:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYo5s-0006Bh-FZ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:14:12 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYo1N-0004Zj-05 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:09:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYo1M-0004Zc-LS for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:09:32 +0000 Received: from joyces.demon.co.uk ([158.152.140.66]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EYo1L-000PKQ-1M for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:09:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: David Pilling Software Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:12:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection 1640SU Scanner Message-ID: <4dc5a7e11cSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I have an Epson Perfection scanner that I've used as a SCSI device. It does have a USB port that I'd like to try as an alternative. Do I need to purchase a new driver to achieve USB connectivity? I have a Unipod podule with USB (Simtec) activated, running on RPC-SA with 96mb. The scanner is recognised as a USB device when plugged in to the USB port, but obviously DPIngScan doesn't recognise it at present. Cheers, Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:54 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYoXH-4awknw-03-1Iwi."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYoXH-4awknw-03-1Iwi; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:42:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYoXH-4awknw-03; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:42:32 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYoXH-0003Ar-De; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:42:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYnoC-00059J-Np; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:55:56 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYoVe-0000df-Oa for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:40:50 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYoVe-0000cT-FM for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:40:50 +0000 Received: from RiscPC (i-83-67-214-219.freedom2surf.net [83.67.214.219]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jA6Heich019170 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:40:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:32:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: long-standing anomaly in OPro Message-ID: <4dc5a9aaddray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,HAS_ORGANIZATION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , Roger Darlington wrote: > Here is a long-standing anomaly in OvPro. It's been here for at least > 5 years, possible since inception? [snip instructions] I've done exactly as you described and the cursor does enter the text first time. OP 2.74 (RISC OS) Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:00:56 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EYogs-0Pe000-06-1In7."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EYogs-0Pe000-06-1In7; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:52:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EYogs-0Pe000-06; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:52:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EYogs-0003mu-AB; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:52:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EYogr-0006cy-ID; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:52:25 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EYofI-0001Rz-Nr for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:50:48 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYofI-0001Rs-FW for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:50:48 +0000 Received: from barryix (i-83-67-106-112.freedom2surf.net [83.67.106.112]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jA6Homch021937 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:50:48 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: long-standing anomaly in OPro Message-ID: <4dc5ab6a3ebarry@e-allen.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc5a9aaddray@raydawson.com> References: <4dc5a9aaddray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc5a9aaddray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article , > Roger Darlington wrote: > > Here is a long-standing anomaly in OvPro. It's been here for at least > > 5 years, possible since inception? > [snip instructions] > I've done exactly as you described and the cursor does enter the text > first time. > OP 2.74 (RISC OS) I think I did exactly as described and I could enter text. > OP 2.75 (RISC OS) -- Barry A. Rugby Union in Manchester:- http://www.broughton-park.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:01:44 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZGQ7-0oVVbs-04-r3s."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:01:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZGQ7-0oVVbs-04-r3s; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:28:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZGQ7-0oVVbs-04; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:28:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZGQ7-0007Gx-CS; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:28:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZFT8-00069S-OJ; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:28:02 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZGKq-0007Ow-Uk for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:23:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZGKq-0007Or-L9 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:23:32 +0000 Received: from 212-229-245-210.rev.dcfb.demon.com ([212.229.245.210] helo=mypc2) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EZGKp-000K4Z-CN for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:23:32 +0000 Message-ID: <007a01c5e3f2$448c18b0$d2f5e5d4@mypc2> From: "David Pilling" To: References: <9efe72344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> <919f8b344d.steve@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Type 5 error on saving, or re-loading Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:56:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1830 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > 2005_05_25_Brinnington_ReddishVale_TameValley_GuideBridge_MJ > always results in a type 5 error. I'll go check on RISC OS. I would guess the name is too long. A bit surprising because at some point I extended the lengths allowed on RISC OS. David Pilling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:01:57 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZSxu-2y8knw-08-n2b."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:01:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZSxu-2y8knw-08-n2b; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:52:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZSxu-2y8knw-08; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:52:42 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZSxu-0001pj-BH; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:52:42 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZT0r-0001P7-Va; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:55:45 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZStd-00013i-Rs for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:48:17 +0000 Received: from [194.158.229.26] (helo=mail-ps.sunrise.ch) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZStd-00013T-A5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:48:17 +0000 Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.8.105) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.2.066) id 4343A111002BDD2E for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:48:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:57:20 GMT From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] long-standing anomaly in OPro Message-ID: <42b487c64d.janvred@smile.ch> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message you wrote: > > Here is a long-standing anomaly in OvPro. It's been here for at least > 5 years, possible since inception? [snip instructions] I cannot repeat your problem. But I wonder about one thing. You state, after having drawn the frame, to have to select the "arrow key" (= select tool). This tool is normally auto-selected after having used one of the drawing tools. If that does not happen with you probably an applet is misbehaving. JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 17:40:15 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZtu3-3Goknw-07-1BFY."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:40:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZtu3-3Goknw-07-1BFY; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:38:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZtu3-3Goknw-07; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:38:32 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZtu3-0006T4-R7; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:38:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZtu2-0004S3-HJ; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:38:30 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZtrz-0005Dk-Ak for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:36:23 +0000 Received: from [193.111.201.130] (helo=lon-mail-4.gradwell.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZtry-0005Da-Ud for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:36:23 +0000 Received: from magpieway.net ([213.162.112.164] helo=tony-lx.magpieway.net ident=tony*pop3^vanderhoff$org) by lon-mail-4.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.199) id 43723396.13995.151 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:36:22 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:36:21 +0000 From: Tony van der Hoff To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Registration Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net User-Agent: Gemini/2.25d (Qt/3.3.4) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hum, Having deided that OPro works wll enough under WINE to justify shelling out for a registration, did so :-) I entered my user name, and registration code into the appropriate box, clicked OK, and was told the program was now registered. Clicked OK on that, causing it to crash :-( So, how do I determine - before it runs out, whether it's *really* registered? HKLM\Software\DavidPilling\OvationPro\RegData has a bunch of hex in it, is that what is to be expected? Otherwise, apart from some niggles, it's working well enough :-) Cheers, Tony -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 18:10:16 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZuFo-4Rjknw-05-UHD."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:10:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZuFo-4Rjknw-05-UHD; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:01:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZuFo-4Rjknw-05; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:01:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZuFo-0005Ow-FT; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:01:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZtLt-00014J-N0; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:03:13 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZuDo-0000dv-DF for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:58:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZuDo-0000dn-0S for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:58:56 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EZuDn-000HHh-Ba for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:58:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:57:30 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Registration References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I entered my user name, and registration code into the appropriate box, >clicked OK, and was told the program was now registered. Clicked OK on that, >causing it to crash :-( Is that "crash" as in there's a bug in the program, or as in there's another Wine problem? I have to admit there is an oddity in the way registration works. If you enter the correct code the program terminates - not a crash or anything it just closes down nicely. That was not how I intended things to be. Things will be different in the next release. >So, how do I determine - before it runs out, whether it's *really* >registered? HKLM\Software\DavidPilling\OvationPro\RegData has a bunch of hex >in it, is that what is to be expected? That is good enough. If you really want to test it, set the clock to after 24th. December 2005, if it is not registered it will ask for a registration code. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 18:20:16 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZuUw-18ZVbs-04-1JBB."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:20:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZuUw-18ZVbs-04-1JBB; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:16:38 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZuUw-18ZVbs-04; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:16:38 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZuUv-0002Ee-Ro; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:16:37 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZtUV-0002XU-8D; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:12:07 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZuSp-00031D-Sr for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:14:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZuSp-000316-KH for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:14:27 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EZuSp-000JiK-AT for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:14:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 18:13:25 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection 1640SU Scanner References: <4dc5a7e11cSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc5a7e11cSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I have an Epson Perfection scanner that I've used as a SCSI device. It >does have a USB port that I'd like to try as an alternative. Do I need to >purchase a new driver to achieve USB connectivity? I'll email you the latest version... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 9 20:00:22 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EZw3y-1oYGPo-01-s2b."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:00:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EZw3y-1oYGPo-01-s2b; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:56:55 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EZw3y-1oYGPo-01; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:56:55 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EZw3y-00039s-JX; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:56:54 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EZv93-0006rv-KU; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:58:05 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZw1j-0004md-4d for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:54:35 +0000 Received: from [193.111.201.125] (helo=lon-mail-1.gradwell.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZw1i-0004mG-Mp for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:54:34 +0000 Received: from magpieway.net ([213.162.112.164] helo=tony-lx.magpieway.net ident=tony&pop3#vanderhoff&org) by lon-mail-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.199) id 437253f6.fdbb.200 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:54:30 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:54:26 +0000 From: Tony van der Hoff To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Registration Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Mail-Followup-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net User-Agent: Gemini/2.25d (Qt/3.3.4) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Pilling wrote in message > >I entered my user name, and registration code into the appropriate box, > >clicked OK, and was told the program was now registered. Clicked OK on that, > >causing it to crash :-( > > Is that "crash" as in there's a bug in the program, or as in there's > another Wine problem? > It disappeared. > I have to admit there is an oddity in the way registration works. If you > enter the correct code the program terminates - not a crash or anything > it just closes down nicely. That was not how I intended things to be. > Things will be different in the next release. > Ah, OK, that's what it did, then. All is well. [snip] -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 02:39:48 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EaOo6-2JvVbs-04-1ERZ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:39:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EaOo6-2JvVbs-04-1ERZ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:38:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EaOo6-2JvVbs-04; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:38:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EaOo6-0000XB-QO; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:38:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EaNu4-0003qI-Pd; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:40:32 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EaOle-0005DA-02 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:35:54 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaOld-0005D5-NM for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:35:53 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EaOld-0004cJ-1B for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:35:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:34:28 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi I've been asked for a version of Ovation Pro for Windows that can be used for reading documents. This is akin to the "demo" version for RISC OS, i.e. a copy of the program with no document saving but also without the time limits and prompts of the "try before you buy" version. The idea is that there are Windows users that don't want to buy the program (hard to believe), but would like to read documents (or print them). Anyway this is now available from: http://www.davidpilling.info/cd/main.html Note the warnings given on that page, don't install the reader version on top of your normal copy. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 13:45:38 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EaVxN-1aRVbs-04-1Foo."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EaVxN-1aRVbs-04-1Foo; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:16:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EaVxN-1aRVbs-04; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:16:30 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EaVxN-0000hw-Hc; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:16:29 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EaVEH-0005gf-Rz; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:29:53 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVur-0004km-WB for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:13:54 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVur-0004kg-LS for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:13:53 +0000 Received: from wallace (i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net [195.137.110.177]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jABADqci009308 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:13:53 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:00:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) Message-ID: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > I've been asked for a version of Ovation Pro for Windows that > can be used for reading documents. ... > The idea is that there are Windows users that don't want to > buy the program (hard to believe), but would like to read > documents (or print them). > Anyway this is now available from: I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that you would do this: thanks very much. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 13:55:30 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EaZKM-4cRknw-05-1CRp."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:55:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EaZKM-4cRknw-05-1CRp; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:52:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EaZKM-4cRknw-05; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:52:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EaZKM-0004uT-9l; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:52:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EaZNl-0003rs-8b; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:55:57 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EaZIE-00016T-89 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:50:14 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaZID-000166-Lt for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:50:13 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EaZIC-000GHQ-Fx for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:50:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:48:57 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that you >would do this: thanks very much. I don't quite see the point myself. What was wrong with the normal Windows version? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 14:55:32 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EaaGy-0zhknw-06-1SYF."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:55:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EaaGy-0zhknw-06-1SYF; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:53:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EaaGy-0zhknw-06; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:53:01 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EaaGy-0002XD-0c; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:53:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EaZN5-0006lQ-PE; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:55:15 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EaaFN-00079M-KR for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:51:21 +0000 Received: from [212.227.126.171] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaaFN-00079C-0g for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:51:21 +0000 Received: from [62.180.25.32] (helo=bach) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2ov-1EaaFL2CD5-0001B0; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:51:20 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Martin Wuerthner X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.11b4 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:51:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:e4772095be5169fd0e120a52273e9d27 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message David Pilling wrote: >>I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that you >>would do this: thanks very much. > > I don't quite see the point myself. What was wrong with the normal > Windows version? The fact that it is a "try before you buy" version that will expire, so as a registered user you cannot really send someone a document and say "please install this program to view my document" because the recipient might (a) fear that he would no longer be able to view the document after the expiry date or (b) that he enters some sort of moral committment when installing the trial version. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 15:35:34 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EaauG-0b6000-03-1Rux."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:35:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EaauG-0b6000-03-1Rux; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:33:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.245] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EaauG-0b6000-03; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:33:37 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EaauG-0005ec-HD; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:33:36 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EaaB1-00063B-DJ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:46:51 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eaaoa-0005Ks-7y for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:27:44 +0000 Received: from [81.103.221.49] (helo=mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaaoZ-0005KQ-7x for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:27:43 +0000 Received: from aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051111152742.TETP8609.mta09-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:27:42 +0000 Received: from Iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.9.212.163]) by aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051111152742.INT26502.aamta12-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:27:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:32:34 +0100 Message-ID: <16692cc84d.alan@ntlworld.com> References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message David Pilling wrote: >>I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that you >>would do this: thanks very much. > > I don't quite see the point myself. What was wrong with the normal > Windows version? > > It could be,as in my case, that one encourages a third party to down load it. Then they can read and print one's OP file. Again in my case I can get a school to use the assembly material in OP rather than use text or a MS Word file (EasiWrite). I can formulate the material, including JPegs in the right documnet position in OP and they simply print it off. Hopefully the schools will see the ease and joy of using OP and get their own copy. They can also make amendments. Catch my drift? Blessings Alan -- Alan Leighton (Rev Dr) Priory Lodge 86b Church Lane, Eston, TS6 9QR -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 18:05:41 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EadFN-0qvVbs-03-rTm."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:05:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EadFN-0qvVbs-03-rTm; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:03:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EadFN-0qvVbs-03; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:03:34 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EadFN-0006Ay-Ko; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:03:33 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EadIn-0008WT-RR; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:07:05 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EadDs-0000u3-SK for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:02:00 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.89] (helo=anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EadDs-0000tb-A4 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:02:00 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Ead7C-000MD0-4N for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:55:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:00:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> <16692cc84d.alan@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <16692cc84d.alan@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >print it off. Hopefully the schools will see the ease and joy of using >OP and get their own copy. They can also make amendments. Catch my >drift? Yes, thanks. Fair points. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 20:45:49 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eafe9-31zknw-06-1NB4."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:45:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eafe9-31zknw-06-1NB4; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:37:17 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eafe9-31zknw-06; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:37:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eafe9-0000eb-3U; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:37:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eafe5-0003zL-Px; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:37:13 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eafby-0000XK-G1 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:35:02 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eafbx-0000Wr-Vo for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:35:02 +0000 Received: from wallace (i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net [195.137.110.177]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jABKZ1ch016034 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:35:01 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) Message-ID: <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that > >you would do this: thanks very much. > I don't quite see the point myself. What was wrong with the > normal Windows version? I'm sorry to say (here, anyway) that I could not get on with OvationPro; sold my copy and bought EasiWriter. So I am not eligible to download your Windows version. OTOH a freebie version I can use as a reader if someone sends an Ovation file will be useful. It would be nice to have it on RISC OS but I'm perfectly happy to run it on a networked Windows machine. A bit contorted, I know, but I don't want to enter a long discussion on the point :-) BTW, I use Impression Publisher for all nearly all the written work I originate. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 21:15:50 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EagBi-2vkGPo-07-1E6z."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:15:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EagBi-2vkGPo-07-1E6z; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:11:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EagBi-2vkGPo-07; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:11:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EagBi-0001Wh-Gh; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:11:58 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EafHn-0001IZ-Rc; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:14:11 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EagA5-0003nW-OY for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:10:17 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EagA5-0003nQ-Gg for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:10:17 +0000 Received: from RiscPC (i-83-67-214-219.freedom2surf.net [83.67.214.219]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jABLAGch024568 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:10:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:58:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) Message-ID: <4dc84fc6cdray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,HAS_ORGANIZATION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com>, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article , David Pilling > wrote: > > >I've been hoping for ages (ie, since I had to buy a PC) that > > >you would do this: thanks very much. > > I don't quite see the point myself. What was wrong with the > > normal Windows version? > I'm sorry to say (here, anyway) that I could not get on with > OvationPro; sold my copy and bought EasiWriter. YMMV. I used Impression in the old days and got used to a frame based DTP/WP package. Changing to Ovation Pro was easy, but it was all or nothing so I ditched Impression as I prefer OP. As I get a lot of Word documents as part of my work, I bought EasiWriter, but could never get on with it. I just don't understand it or find it intuitive. It's not even a good Word alternative. But, strangely enough, I do get on with Word :-) Although I played with the beta OP for Windows and found it useful for editing OP documents on my laptop, I don't use the Windows version for real as the only people who I swap WP files with on the PC use Word. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 21:45:52 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eagce-1lP000-02-1Dg3."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:45:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eagce-1lP000-02-1Dg3; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:39:49 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eagce-1lP000-02; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:39:49 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eagce-0002h4-Kr; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:39:48 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eafc5-0001PA-4Z; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:35:09 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EagaN-00017g-Ik for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:37:27 +0000 Received: from [212.74.114.37] (helo=mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EagaN-00017W-B9 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:37:27 +0000 Received: from mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.47]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2005 21:37:27 +0000 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Received: from 88-105-185-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.105.185.178]:10013 helo=dave.nom) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EagaM-000KgF-UI for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:37:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:37:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) Message-ID: <4dc8534dbedfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4dc84fc6cdray@raydawson.com> References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> <4dc84fc6cdray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) [Snip stuff people have been writing] David, I'd like to say in support... I use Ovation Pro in both the RISC OS and the MS-Windows versions, I like Ovation Pro, and as I mentioned before, some years ago when OVPro came along I converted (Manually then) all my business paperwork from Imp-Publisher. Good stuff, thanks for an excellent app. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 22:15:53 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eah9z-4b9000-08-nZA."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:15:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eah9z-4b9000-08-nZA; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:14:16 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eah9z-4b9000-08; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:14:16 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eah9z-0003F5-NH; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:14:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EagG3-000524-Aq; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:16:27 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eah8E-0004NO-5Y for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:12:26 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eah8D-0004ND-Pj for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:12:25 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eah8D-000IO8-EP for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:12:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:11:05 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >OTOH a freebie >version I can use as a reader if someone sends an Ovation file >will be useful. It would be nice to have it on RISC OS but I'm >perfectly happy to run it on a networked Windows machine. There is a free reader version you can use on RISC OS see: http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/opdemo32.zip -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 11 23:15:56 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EahyN-3w8000-04-1TNM."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:15:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EahyN-3w8000-04-1TNM; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:06:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EahyN-3w8000-04; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:06:19 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EahyN-0006o0-0K; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:06:19 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eah4U-000823-HH; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:08:34 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eahwo-0004NL-Kr for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:04:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eahwo-0004ND-Ce for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:04:42 +0000 Received: from joyces.demon.co.uk ([158.152.140.66]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eahwn-000LLb-2k for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:04:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:05:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Epson Perfection 1640SU Scanner Message-ID: <4dc83fe9d7Steve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc5a7e11cSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I have an Epson Perfection scanner that I've used as a SCSI device. It > >does have a USB port that I'd like to try as an alternative. Do I need to > >purchase a new driver to achieve USB connectivity? > I'll email you the latest version... Many thanks - received, installed and working. Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 13:52:56 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EarwP-1fyknw-08-12MI."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:52:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EarwP-1fyknw-08-12MI; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:44:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EarwP-1fyknw-08; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:44:57 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EarwP-0005p6-4s; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:44:57 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Ear2U-0000RB-CO; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:47:10 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EaruP-0002qB-W9 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:42:54 +0000 Received: from [84.156.225.98] (helo=roma.localnet) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaruP-0002q2-Ie for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:42:53 +0000 Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.106] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EaruN-0004Mr-00 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:42:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:42:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? Message-ID: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Silly question, but I don't find an option for it: Default is insert mode, but is there an overwrite mode in Ovation Pro? There are times where an overwrite mode is really useful. -- Stefan Bellon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 13:52:57 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Easc7-0QVknw-07-1RG8."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:52:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Easc7-0QVknw-07-1RG8; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:28:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Easc7-0QVknw-07; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:28:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Easc7-0001EM-1U; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:28:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eargs-0006iQ-Rk; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:28:54 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EasZo-00075C-LA for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:25:40 +0000 Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EasZo-00074g-AS for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:25:40 +0000 Received: from wallace (i-195-137-110-177.freedom2surf.net [195.137.110.177]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jACAPdch002984 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:25:39 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:25:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro Reader (for Windows) Message-ID: <4dc899a1c9bric@f2s.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc8137be5bric@f2s.com> <4dc84c417fbric@f2s.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.06-ds.5 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > There is a free reader version you can use on RISC OS see: > http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/ Thanks, David, I had not realised the demo version was not time-limited. It will be more convenient than the Windows version. I've put a copy on my RiscPC. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric at f2s dot com ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 13:52:59 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eat4W-115GPo-06-19kh."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:52:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eat4W-115GPo-06-19kh; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:57:25 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eat4W-115GPo-06; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:57:25 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eat4W-00038S-Kg; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:57:24 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eas3p-0000yg-B3; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:52:37 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eat2i-0003CZ-OW for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:55:32 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.213] (helo=ptb-relay04.plus.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eat2i-0003C0-Du for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:55:32 +0000 Received: from [80.229.143.2] (helo=radstock) by ptb-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Eat2i-0002HT-3d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:55:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? Message-ID: <4dc89c57c9chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> In-Reply-To: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> References: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de>, Stefan Bellon wrote: > Silly question, but I don't find an option for it: Default is insert > mode, but is there an overwrite mode in Ovation Pro? There are times > where an overwrite mode is really useful. Why not simply highlight the text to be overwritten, and then start typing? -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 13:53:00 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EatvQ-3kTknw-01-rql."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:53:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EatvQ-3kTknw-01-rql; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:52:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EatvQ-3kTknw-01; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:52:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EatvQ-0007dR-1f; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:52:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eat1E-00079P-OU; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:54:00 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EattZ-000267-N5 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:50:09 +0000 Received: from [62.241.163.6] (helo=astro.systems.pipex.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EattZ-000261-FY for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:50:09 +0000 Received: from RiscPC (81-178-208-34.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.208.34]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37305E000245 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:50:09 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:49:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? Message-ID: <4dc8a146a5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <4dc89c57c9chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> References: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> <4dc89c57c9chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 12 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > In article <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de>, > Stefan Bellon wrote: > > Silly question, but I don't find an option for it: Default is insert > > mode, but is there an overwrite mode in Ovation Pro? There are times > > where an overwrite mode is really useful. > Why not simply highlight the text to be overwritten, and then start > typing? At a guess, because doing something like hitting the insert key to toggle between the two modes tends to be faster than fiddling with the mouse. Let go of the mouse, feel the power of the command line... -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 14:12:50 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eavzb-2s5Vbs-01-1FM8."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:12:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eavzb-2s5Vbs-01-1FM8; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:04:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eavzb-2s5Vbs-01; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:04:32 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.32] (helo=smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eavzb-0007gF-HI; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:04:31 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eauyx-0008Kq-JK; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:59:47 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eavy5-0001f2-F0 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:02:57 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eavy5-0001ex-5S for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:02:57 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eavy4-0000Wk-Fa for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:01:26 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? References: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Silly question, but I don't find an option for it: Default is insert >mode, but is there an overwrite mode in Ovation Pro? There are times >where an overwrite mode is really useful. There's no overwrite mode. Since people have written applets for right to left text entry you probably could add the feature. More practically, on Windows (by default) and as an applet on RISC OS you can mark text by holding down shift and using the cursor keys, so that is a reasonably quick way of doing what Chris Johnson suggested. In my experience the common one is - replace text from here to end of line. That is easily done with Shift+End then type. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 14:22:50 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EawGa-2MzVbs-05-1F59."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:22:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EawGa-2MzVbs-05-1F59; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:22:05 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EawGa-2MzVbs-05; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:22:05 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EawGa-0007XM-NP; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:22:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EavMg-0001Ty-Pd; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:24:18 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EawEu-0002ms-Qs for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:20:20 +0000 Received: from [84.156.207.216] (helo=roma.localnet) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EawEu-0002ml-DY for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:20:20 +0000 Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.106] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EawEt-0005fe-00 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:20:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:20:16 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? Message-ID: <4dc8af1ed5sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.09) POPstar/2.05 X-Request-PGP: http://www.sbellon.de/gpg.asc X-PGP-ID: 05360CB9 / 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 X-URL: http://www.sbellon.de/ Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David Pilling wrote: > There's no overwrite mode. [snip] > In my experience the common one is - replace text from here to end of > line. That is easily done with Shift+End then type. But that does not preserve font/style changes in the middle of the line. -- Stefan Bellon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 12 16:22:56 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eay0d-2FHGPo-03-1DL6."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:22:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eay0d-2FHGPo-03-1DL6; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:13:43 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eay0d-2FHGPo-03; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:13:43 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eay0d-0007Do-4b; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:13:43 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eax6k-0007c7-AL; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:15:58 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eaxz7-0001gq-AD for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:12:09 +0000 Received: from [195.188.213.8] (helo=smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eaxz6-0001gj-U5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:12:08 +0000 Received: from Iyonix ([82.34.222.136]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:13:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John M Ward To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:12:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Overwrite/insert mode in Ovation Pro? Message-ID: <4dc8b9598bjohn@acornusers.org> In-Reply-To: <4dc8a146a5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> References: <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de> <4dc89c57c9chris@chrisjohnson.plus.com> <4dc8a146a5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03j (RISC-OS/5.10) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.46 (24 Mar 2003) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.27 (21 Mar 2003) test-6 (32) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2005 16:13:01.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4516E30:01C5E7A3] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc8a146a5steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com>, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 12 Nov, Chris Johnson wrote: > > In article <4dc895b7f0sbellon@sbellon.de>, > > Stefan Bellon wrote: > > > Silly question, but I don't find an option for it: Default is > > > insert mode, but is there an overwrite mode in Ovation Pro? There > > > are times where an overwrite mode is really useful. > > Why not simply highlight the text to be overwritten, and then start > > typing? That is probably the better way in practice, as overtyping character-for-character tends to lead to complications with unwanted deletions occurring. I have always had that problem with overtype mode, and I suspect that I am nowhere near being the only one. > At a guess, because doing something like hitting the insert key to > toggle between the two modes tends to be faster than fiddling with > the mouse. > > Let go of the mouse, feel the power of the command line... > The keyboard buffer, you mean. -- John Ward : RISC OS computing since 1987, now Iyonix-powered & A9home! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers Read my "Councilling RISC OS" series in Qercus, starting in Issue 276 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sun Nov 13 00:13:21 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eb5Mg-0LTVbs-05-xSX."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:13:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eb5Mg-0LTVbs-05-xSX; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:04:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eb5Mg-0LTVbs-05; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:04:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eb5Mg-0001Q2-9L; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:04:58 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eb5Mb-0003EX-Kg; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:04:53 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eb5KU-0008Fx-Tu for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:02:42 +0000 Received: from [62.241.163.7] (helo=blaster.systems.pipex.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eb5KU-0008Fq-FU for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:02:42 +0000 Received: from Iyonix.dsl.pipex.com (81-178-82-125.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.82.125]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356E3E000070 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:02:41 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:18:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] DPSS-OPro incompatibility? Message-ID: <4dc8e05dadrkp@par.me.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) For a little while I've been flummoxed by a fault in the behaviour of Ovation Pro (v2.75 or earlier, on Iyonix or Risc PC) which used not to happen. Sometimes, on using Picture>Process with a deep sprite, the picture's dpi doubles as soon as any adjustment is made, but it is cropped to the same overall size, thus losing three-quarters of the picture. If one clicks OK, there is no obvious way of getting the full picture back. I've now found that this happens when Picture>Info shows the resolution as "a x b (180 x 180) dpi", which is how DPSS 1.22 saves a sprite when it is displayed in DPSS at 180 dpi or greater. If Picture>Info shows "a x b (45 x 45) dpi", which it does when the save was made when DPSS was displaying at a resolution of 45 dpi or less, the opposite occurs and the display in Ovation Pro shrinks, though in this case no information is lost. If the picture is saved from Photodesk, even if it started at 180 dpi, the result is a 90 dpi file. And here is why the problem used not to affect us: saving from DPSS 1.18 also always gives a 90 dpi file, so something has changed in DPSS. So I don't know whether we could say the fault is with Ovation Pro or DPSS or both, but at least I now know how to get round it without resorting to using JPEGs. Apologies if this isn't new (I was off for a while when Argonet closed down), but I think I'm on the latest versions of both programs, so maybe no-one else has been bothered by it. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- Richard Partridge rkp@par.me.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sun Nov 13 02:13:26 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eb7EA-3YoVbs-01-vb3."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:13:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eb7EA-3YoVbs-01-vb3; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:04:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eb7EA-3YoVbs-01; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:04:18 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eb7EA-0000zT-A4; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:04:18 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eb7Dy-0001TD-7f; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:04:06 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eb7CQ-0005EG-OC for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:02:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.90] (helo=anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eb7CQ-0005EB-FM for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:02:30 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eb7CQ-0000H5-6u for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:02:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:01:17 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPSS-OPro incompatibility? References: <4dc8e05dadrkp@par.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc8e05dadrkp@par.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >So I don't know whether we could say the fault is with Ovation Pro or >DPSS or both, but at least I now know how to get round it without >resorting to using JPEGs. That is very interesting. I'd say there is a bug in Ovation Pro for RISC OS. I presume someone told me that DPSS didn't save the correct resolution values so I changed them, and of course that reveals the problem with Ovation. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:27 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbF2M-2dzknw-08-1Lsv."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbF2M-2dzknw-08-1Lsv; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbF2M-2dzknw-08; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbF2M-00052R-Bb; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:38 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbF2H-0006WX-JO; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:33 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbF0k-0001WX-RV for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.86] (helo=anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbF0k-0001WR-HW for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:58 +0000 Received: from joyces.demon.co.uk ([158.152.140.66]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EbF0j-0006Jo-MA for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:09:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Epson Perfection 1640SU Scanner Message-ID: <4dc91c08ecSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc5a7e11cSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I have an Epson Perfection scanner that I've used as a SCSI device. It > >does have a USB port that I'd like to try as an alternative. Do I need to > >purchase a new driver to achieve USB connectivity? > I'll email you the latest version... Many thanks. Received, installed and working. Cheers, Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:28 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbF2a-4eF000-05-1DMB."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbF2a-4eF000-05-1DMB; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbF2a-4eF000-05; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbF2a-0006PB-SC; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:24:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbE8h-0000ZK-AT; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:27:07 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbF0l-0001Wm-SA for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.86] (helo=anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbF0l-0001We-Mc for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:59 +0000 Received: from joyces.demon.co.uk ([158.152.140.66]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EbF0l-0006Jo-K6 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:22:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: David Pilling Software Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] !Snapper Message-ID: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, I'm in the process of translating a software manual from HTML to something that can be printed out - I find it somewhat easier. As a consequence, I've been capturing screen shots of menus and windows using !Paint and then editing the sprite file to remove unwanted borders, etc. Then I found !Snapper, written by David Pilling around 1993/4, that offers to grab sprites of the Screen, Area, Window and Contents. How do I trigger it to 'snap' a window without using the mouse on the Snap button? All attempts so far just give a sprite of the Snap Control window. Cheers, Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbFk1-1Jtknw-07-n5C."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbFk1-1Jtknw-07-n5C; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:09:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbFk1-1Jtknw-07; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:09:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbFk1-000147-GP; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:09:45 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbFnT-0003Vv-CE; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:13:19 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbFht-0008Fs-Ao for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:07:33 +0000 Received: from [213.160.118.140] (helo=mailhost.netweaver.net) by svr1.spellings.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbFhs-0008Fl-Uu for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:07:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 10967 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2005 11:07:32 -0000 Received: from cpc3-hem12-4-1-cust184.lutn.cable.ntl.com (HELO Iyonix.sandford.ntlworld.com) (lists@thesandfords.me.uk@86.3.10.184) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Nov 2005 11:07:32 -0000 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !Snapper To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:07:25 GMT Message-ID: References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: None User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> Steve Joyce wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in the process of translating a software manual from HTML to > something that can be printed out - I find it somewhat easier. As a > consequence, I've been capturing screen shots of menus and windows using > !Paint and then editing the sprite file to remove unwanted borders, etc. > > Then I found !Snapper, written by David Pilling around 1993/4, that > offers to grab sprites of the Screen, Area, Window and Contents.. How do I > trigger it to 'snap' a window without using the mouse on the Snap button? > All attempts so far just give a sprite of the Snap Control window. > > Cheers, > > Steve By selecting area and expanding the red square to fit around the window containing the displayed text, leave the control outside this area. Alternatively try David's !Sprinter to print to a sprite file and then print this. John -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead RISC OS User Group email info@hhrug.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:36 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbFla-1C1knw-05-n3d."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbFla-1C1knw-05-n3d; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:11:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbFla-1C1knw-05; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:11:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbFla-00010x-Pz; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:11:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbErf-0003eX-AO; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:13:35 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbFk9-0008QM-DO for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:09:53 +0000 Received: from [195.188.213.9] (helo=smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbFk8-0008Pk-N9 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:09:53 +0000 Received: from localhost.com.nom ([213.48.226.237]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:08:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Hamilton To: David Pilling Software Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:06:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Snapper Message-ID: <4dc92135b3Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> In-Reply-To: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2005 11:08:19.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DFB9D50:01C5E842] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce wrote: > I'm in the process of translating a software manual from HTML to > something that can be printed out - I find it somewhat easier. > Then I found !Snapper, written by David Pilling around 1993/4, that > offers to grab sprites of the Screen, Area, Window and Contents. How do > I trigger it to 'snap' a window without using the mouse on the Snap > button? All attempts so far just give a sprite of the Snap Control > window. Toggle the Snapper window to full size and there are 'Key trigger' settings.. Place the pointer over the required window and press the selected key combination and a save window should appear. Ian -- Ian Hamilton (RISC PC RO4) http://www.hamiltoni.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ (Iyonix RO5) Programs compatible with RISC OS 3/4/5 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:40 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbGQp-3Kzknw-02-uuu."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbGQp-3Kzknw-02-uuu; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:53:59 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbGQp-3Kzknw-02; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:53:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbGQp-0003KP-8v; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:53:59 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbFVI-0002a1-NY; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:54:32 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbGOV-0006mD-28 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:51:35 +0000 Received: from [195.188.213.9] (helo=smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbGOU-0006m1-L9 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:51:34 +0000 Received: from iyonixpc.workgroup ([82.32.7.157]) by smtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:52:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jack Evans To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:51:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !Snapper Message-ID: <4dc9255553jack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2005 11:52:27.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7F34530:01C5E848] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) aIn article , wrote: > In message <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> Steve Joyce > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm in the process of translating a software manual from HTML to > > something that can be printed out - I find it somewhat easier. As a > > consequence, I've been capturing screen shots of menus and windows > > using !Paint and then editing the sprite file to remove unwanted > > borders, etc. > > > > Then I found !Snapper, written by David Pilling around 1993/4, that > > offers to grab sprites of the Screen, Area, Window and Contents.. > > How do I trigger it to 'snap' a window without using the mouse on > > the Snap button? All attempts so far just give a sprite of the Snap > > Control window. I think you should try Windowrd, it's PD available from htttp://www.tribbeck.com/software/windowrd/ and works on Iyonix. Putting the pointer on the window to be grabbed and pressing both shift keys produces a sprite file of the window. (Unpredictably though, the current version of the software sometimes captures the whole screen - I've not checked to see why this should happen.) Regards Jack -- Jack Evans Bristol UK mailto:jack@ljsevans.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:46 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbJJ8-2feVbs-07-195d."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbJJ8-2feVbs-07-195d; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:58:15 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbJJ8-2feVbs-07; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:58:15 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbJJ8-0001Da-Lg; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:58:14 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbJJ2-0001vM-29; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:58:08 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbJHH-0001tm-8B for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:56:19 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbJHH-0001th-4W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:56:19 +0000 Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([83.104.47.124]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EbJHG-0008RE-FY for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:56:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: David Pilling Software Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:56:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !Snapper Message-ID: <4dc9364640john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce wrote: > Then I found !Snapper, written by David Pilling around 1993/4, that > offers to grab sprites of the Screen, Area, Window and Contents. How do I > trigger it to 'snap' a window without using the mouse on the Snap button? > All attempts so far just give a sprite of the Snap Control window. It snaps the window where your pointer is at the time. Have you opened up the !Snapper window to its full extent by clicking on the top right button? And !Snapper is easier by far than the other options I have red in this thread. -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:44:47 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EbK71-46oVbs-07-1GoG."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EbK71-46oVbs-07-1GoG; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:49:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EbK71-46oVbs-07; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:49:48 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EbK71-0004zZ-FW; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:49:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EbJNy-0000Wm-H1; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:03:14 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EbK4y-00011d-7O for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:47:40 +0000 Received: from [194.158.229.43] (helo=mail-ps.sunrise.ch) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbK4x-00011W-GU for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:47:39 +0000 Received: from localhost.com.smile.ch (194.230.224.176) by mail-ps.sunrise.ch (7.2.066) id 4343A00D0033EDCF for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:47:39 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:33:55 GMT From: JMAH van Vredenburch To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !Snapper Message-ID: <48313fc94d.janvred@smile.ch> References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> <4dc9255553jack@ljsevans.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc9255553jack@ljsevans.co.uk> X-Organization: Secr. St. Van Vredenburch; CIC-member User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.71 (MsgServe/2.13) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4dc9255553jack@ljsevans.co.uk> you wrote: [snip some] > > I think you should try Windowrd, it's PD available from > > htttp://www.tribbeck.com/software/windowrd/ and works on Iyonix. > > Putting the pointer on the window to be grabbed and pressing both shift > keys produces a sprite file of the window. (Unpredictably though, the > current version of the software sometimes captures the whole screen - > I've not checked to see why this should happen.) My experience as well although very seldom. It happens with one (or more) programs actually running besides the programs you are using. The cure I found is to be sure that the window to capture is active. The fastest way to crop a picture is using DPSS. Cheers, JohnvV -- Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 16 16:45:28 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EblbE-3coVbs-07-YH1."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:45:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EblbE-3coVbs-07-YH1; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:10:48 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EblbE-3coVbs-07; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:10:48 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EblbD-0001pw-Ry; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:10:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eblb5-0001HU-OV; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:10:39 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EblYc-0006I0-VV for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:08:06 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EblYc-0006Hu-K7 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:08:06 +0000 Received: from joyces.demon.co.uk ([158.152.140.66]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EblYb-0008pL-2J for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:08:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steve Joyce To: David Pilling Software Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: !Snapper Message-ID: <4dc9dc78dbSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dc92135b3Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> References: <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk> <4dc92135b3Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dc92135b3Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net>, Ian Hamilton wrote: > In article <4dc91d89feSteve@joyces.demon.co.uk>, Steve Joyce > wrote: [snip] > Toggle the Snapper window to full size and there are 'Key trigger' > settings.. Place the pointer over the required window and press the > selected key combination and a save window should appear. > Ian Many thanks - didn't recognise the tell-tale small size icon, and yes, when you get the 'bigger picture', all is obvious. And it works brilliantly. Cheers, Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From alan.leighton2@ntlworld.com Wed Nov 23 16:58:04 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EeATN-2kQ000-07-DGc."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:58:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EeATN-2kQ000-07-DGc; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:08:37 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EeATN-2kQ000-07 for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:08:37 +0000 Received: from [81.103.221.47] (helo=mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EeATN-0001Ow-MA for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:08:37 +0000 Received: from aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051121120836.IMVH21883.mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:08:36 +0000 Received: from Iyonix.ntlworld.com ([82.9.212.163]) by aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20051121120836.RMGU16192.aamta11-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Iyonix.ntlworld.com> for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:08:36 +0000 Subject: Artwork To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk From: Alan Leighton X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:50 +0100 Message-ID: <109340cd4d.alan@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/5.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi I know I am being silly but I recently obtained some Artworl clip art. When I try to load them into a document it comes up with a warning that the inserted file is a type of Artwork not text. How do I get it to accept it? I have checked the Applet is OK. Thanks Alan -- Alan Leighton (Rev Dr) Priory Lodge 86b Church Lane, Eston, TS6 9QR From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 23 16:58:38 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EecI8-39xVbs-03-10AV."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:58:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EecI8-39xVbs-03-10AV; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:50:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EecI8-39xVbs-03; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:50:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EecI7-0007P3-T6; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:50:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EecI6-0000Xo-WA; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:50:51 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EecG9-00057o-MD for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:49 +0000 Received: from [193.111.201.127] (helo=lon-mail-3.gradwell.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EecG9-00057e-9t for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:49 +0000 Received: from magpieway.net ([213.162.112.164] helo=tony-lx.magpieway ident=tony*pop3^vanderhoff#org) by lon-mail-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.199) id 43835a00.11a08.1a6 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:48 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:47 +0000 From: Tony van der Hoff To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OPro(W) CD Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net User-Agent: Gemini/2.25d (Qt/3.3.4) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David, I am trying to install the Ovation Pro fonts, but am having problems reading the OPro CD. Linux won't touch it, and 'doze suggests it may be corrupt. It does appear to have some tiny scratches on the surface. So, I'm trying to download from the web page, but can only get the installer, which even on 'doze is not much use on its own. Is there a repository for the individual fonts, please? -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 23 23:48:04 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Ef4JT-0Ke000-07-pCC."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:48:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Ef4JT-0Ke000-07-pCC; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:46:07 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Ef4JT-0Ke000-07; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:46:07 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Ef4JT-0007JE-Aj; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:46:07 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Ef3aR-00019A-HE; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:59:35 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ef4HW-0001oW-0B for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:44:06 +0000 Received: from [195.121.6.176] (helo=hnexfe10.hetnet.nl) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ef4HV-0001oP-Hh for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:44:05 +0000 Received: from hnexvs05.HETNET.LOCAL ([10.94.9.118]) by hnexfe10.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6874); Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:43:55 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hnexvs05.HETNET.LOCAL with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 00:43:54 +0100 Received: from hnexfe06.hetnet.nl ([10.94.9.29]) by hnexvs05.HETNET.LOCAL with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:57:29 +0100 Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by hnexfe06.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6874); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:55:02 +0100 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EebKU-0007Nw-4U; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:49:14 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EecG9-00057o-MD for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:49 +0000 Received: from [193.111.201.127] (helo=lon-mail-3.gradwell.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EecG9-00057e-9t for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:49 +0000 Received: from magpieway.net ([213.162.112.164] helo=tony-lx.magpieway ident=tony*pop3^vanderhoff#org) by lon-mail-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.199) id 43835a00.11a08.1a6 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:48 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:48:47 +0000 From: Tony van der Hoff To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OPro(W) CD Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net User-Agent: Gemini/2.25d (Qt/3.3.4) (Linux-i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-maillist: softwarelist X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2005 17:55:02.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCC7DC80:01C5EF8D] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David, I am trying to install the Ovation Pro fonts, but am having problems reading the OPro CD. Linux won't touch it, and 'doze suggests it may be corrupt. It does appear to have some tiny scratches on the surface. So, I'm trying to download from the web page, but can only get the installer, which even on 'doze is not much use on its own. Is there a repository for the individual fonts, please? -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 25 03:21:15 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EfU06-2uxVbs-05-1mkj."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:21:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EfU06-2uxVbs-05-1mkj; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:11:51 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EfU06-2uxVbs-05; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:11:51 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EfU06-0003Jo-Gp; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:11:50 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EfU04-00032b-4G; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:11:48 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EfTy5-0006l8-QM for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfTy5-0006l3-HO for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EfTy5-000Nrz-AJ for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:09:45 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:08:12 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro(W) CD References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I am trying to install the Ovation Pro fonts, but am having problems reading >the OPro CD. Linux won't touch it, and 'doze suggests it may be corrupt. It >does appear to have some tiny scratches on the surface. If the disc is actually a dud/damged I'd be happy to send you a new one. I'm not sure what "suggests" amounts to... >So, I'm trying to download from the web page, but can only get the >installer, which even on 'doze is not much use on its own. Is there a >repository for the individual fonts, please? The installer is all there is. The fonts are embedded inside it. Just run the installer and select the fonts to install - that's all there is to it. Everything on the CD is on the web site. Let me know if you still have problems. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 25 13:43:30 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EfcEN-226000-04-xts."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:43:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EfcEN-226000-04-xts; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:08 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EfcEN-226000-04; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:08 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EfcEN-0005L2-La; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:07 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EfcJM-000156-U7; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:04:16 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EfcBA-0005Vi-Vr for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:55:49 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.131] (helo=pih-relay04.plus.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfcBA-0005VZ-Ji for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:55:48 +0000 Received: from [80.229.238.131] (helo=ascension) by pih-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1EfcB6-0004B1-1G for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:55:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ned Abell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:54:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] SyncDiscs Message-ID: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) David, Im using SyncDiscs to backup websites across my network. The RISC OS box does the writing to a local master copy and the PC browses its local backup of the sync'ed site. When you are next looking at this would it be possible to add a history list so that you could have a default setting (as now) but theres access to a recent history list so that you can switch between pairs of recent sync settings? -- besters.. Ned === skype:nedabell -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 25 13:43:33 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EfcSi-4Mz000-01-1EiZ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:43:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EfcSi-4Mz000-01-1EiZ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:13:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EfcSi-4Mz000-01; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:13:56 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EfcSi-0000Cp-5v; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:13:56 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Efbjg-0001pK-DY; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:27:24 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EfcQI-00009Y-G8 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:11:26 +0000 Received: from [195.188.213.8] (helo=smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfcQG-000096-I5 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:11:25 +0000 Received: from localhost.com.nom ([213.48.229.157]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:12:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Hamilton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:10:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs Message-ID: <4dcf55203fIan.Hamilton@AAUG.net> In-Reply-To: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> References: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/5.10) Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2005 12:12:17.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[7AA7ACA0:01C5F1B9] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk>, Ned Abell wrote: > Im using SyncDiscs to backup websites across my network. > When you are next looking at this would it be possible to add a history > list so that you could have a default setting (as now) but theres > access to a recent history list so that you can switch between pairs of > recent sync settings? I setup Obey files for any backups that need to be done more than once. All the options can be set on the command line. HTH, Ian -- Ian Hamilton (RISC PC RO4) http://www.hamiltoni.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ (Iyonix RO5) Programs compatible with RISC OS 3/4/5 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 25 13:43:36 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Efcgn-45g000-07-1EUU."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:43:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Efcgn-45g000-07-1EUU; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:28:30 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.95] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Efcgn-45g000-07; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:28:30 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Efcgn-0000XD-QD; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:28:29 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Efbmc-0006Kl-0Q; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:30:26 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Efcej-00037f-FK for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:26:21 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.213] (helo=ptb-relay04.plus.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Efcej-00037S-1e for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:26:21 +0000 Received: from [80.229.238.131] (helo=ascension) by ptb-relay04.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1Efcei-0002nE-9u for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:26:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ned Abell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:25:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: SyncDiscs Message-ID: <4dcf567c67nedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dcf55203fIan.Hamilton@AAUG.net> References: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> <4dcf55203fIan.Hamilton@AAUG.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) On 25 Nov, Ian Hamilton wrote: > In article <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk>, Ned > Abell wrote: > > Im using SyncDiscs to backup websites across my network. > > When you are next looking at this would it be possible to > > add a history list so that you could have a default > > setting (as now) but theres access to a recent history > > list so that you can switch between pairs of recent sync > > settings? > I setup Obey files for any backups that need to be done > more than once. All the options can be set on the command > line. Well yes but David does have this also as a Windows program and therefore the integral suggestion could apply to both platforms. -- besters.. Ned === skype:nedabell -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 25 22:33:43 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Efm2X-1qBknw-02-wcE."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:33:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Efm2X-1qBknw-02-wcE; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:27:33 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Efm2X-1qBknw-02; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:27:33 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Efm2X-0005cw-Cs; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:27:33 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Efm7Z-0000UA-Pr; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:32:45 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Efm0p-0005Fp-DB for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:25:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.86] (helo=anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Efm0p-0005Fj-3p for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:25:47 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Efm0o-000MY1-LC for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:25:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:24:20 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SyncDiscs References: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dcf53addbnedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >When you are next looking at this would it be possible to add >a history list so that you could have a default setting (as >now) but theres access to a recent history list so that you >can switch between pairs of recent sync settings? Yes. I've got a version that I've not finished (these last three years) and it includes that feature. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 13:39:02 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EfzEz-4BjVbs-04-1h5O."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:39:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EfzEz-4BjVbs-04-1h5O; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:33:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EfzEz-4BjVbs-04; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:33:18 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EfzEz-0004Fa-Fa; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:33:17 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EfzEt-0005ys-QG; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:33:11 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EfzCl-000417-U3 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:30:59 +0000 Received: from [80.168.70.142] (helo=relay2.mail.uk.clara.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfzCl-00040N-LA for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:30:59 +0000 Received: from du-040-0002.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.2] helo=lab) by relay2.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EfzCk-000797-9C for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:30:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OPro: Text flow around enbedded object Message-ID: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Is it possible to embed (or otherwise anchor) an object so that the text flows around it, but the object moves with the text. Purpose is to indicate concerted passages in an opera: the concerted parts are normally bracketed together but unless the brackets move with the text, it doesn't work properly. Such a bracket would always be at the left hand edge of the column. Existing embedding doesn't do this. There are many opera libretti available on the Internet, but to make these into a usable booklet form, they need to be printed out and OPro is idea for this. HTML -> text then text into O-Pro and edit it. The text needs significant prettying up, which is easy ... except for this one problem. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 13:39:05 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EfzRH-0yIGPo-02-10GW."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:39:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EfzRH-0yIGPo-02-10GW; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:46:01 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EfzRH-0yIGPo-02; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:46:01 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.30] (helo=smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EfzRI-0001hs-Jv; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:46:00 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EfzaZ-0007c3-OA; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:55:35 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EfzPI-0007N2-BE for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:43:56 +0000 Received: from [193.252.22.156] (helo=smtp3.freeserve.com) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfzPI-0007Mx-1X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:43:56 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C9A1F9400088 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:43:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from rpc (user-6965.l3.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk [81.77.27.87]) by mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 98AA2940008E for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:43:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20051126124355625.98AA2940008E@mwinf3209.me.freeserve.com Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:43:05 GMT From: Alan Adams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: Text flow around enbedded object Message-ID: <0ceddbcf4d.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.62 (MsgServe/2.05) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> you wrote: > Is it possible to embed (or otherwise anchor) an object so that the text > flows around it, but the object moves with the text. > > Purpose is to indicate concerted passages in an opera: the concerted parts > are normally bracketed together but unless the brackets move with the > text, it doesn't work properly. Such a bracket would always be at the left > hand edge of the column. Existing embedding doesn't do this. I'm not too clear what you mean here. Is it something like ( this is bracketed ( with this ( and this If so, I'm thinking along the lines of embedding a text frame, with a left border which shows as brackets. I'm not sure how to do this, however... > There are many opera libretti available on the Internet, but to make these > into a usable booklet form, they need to be printed out and OPro is idea > for this. HTML -> text then text into O-Pro and edit it. The text needs > significant prettying up, which is easy ... except for this one problem. > -- Alan Adams alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 13:48:53 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg0Mp-1lSGPo-06-1GO0."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:48:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg0Mp-1lSGPo-06-1GO0; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:45:28 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg0Mp-1lSGPo-06; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:45:28 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg0Mp-0004uP-7Y; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:45:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg0Rw-0007l6-5I; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:50:44 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg0KQ-0007nr-BV for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:42:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg0KQ-0007nm-3f for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:42:58 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eg0KP-000DYR-F4 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:42:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:41:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: Text flow around enbedded object References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org>, Richard Torrens writes >Is it possible to embed (or otherwise anchor) an object so that the text >flows around it, but the object moves with the text. Well if you mean what I think you mean - like a drop cap - then the answer is no. I've long considered it a possibility. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 18:39:08 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg4wU-3mkknw-07-1KKr."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:39:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg4wU-3mkknw-07-1KKr; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:38:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg4wU-3mkknw-07; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:38:35 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg4wU-0005d8-EJ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:38:34 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg4wN-0002VU-MU; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:38:27 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg4uZ-0004fd-Fz for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:36:35 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.89] (helo=anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg4uZ-0004fE-1j for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:36:35 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eg4nc-000EK7-4C for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:29:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:35:14 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: Text flow around enbedded object References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >From: JayCee In message David Pilling wrote: > > In message <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org>, Richard Torrens > writes >>Is it possible to embed (or otherwise anchor) an object so that the text >>flows around it, but the object moves with the text. > > Well if you mean what I think you mean - like a drop cap - then the > answer is no. > > I've long considered it a possibility. > I have to use diagrams in the text of my chess articles and just use 'embed object'; the object moves if I delete or insert text before it. -- JayCee -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 18:59:08 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg58C-0elVbs-03-1K99."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:59:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg58C-0elVbs-03-1K99; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:50:41 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg58C-0elVbs-03; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:50:41 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg58C-0002y0-DB; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:50:40 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg4PC-0003TU-3G; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:04:10 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg56I-0008TF-Mw for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.90] (helo=anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg56I-0008T9-GX for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:42 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eg56I-000H0D-6Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:42 +0000 Message-ID: <50v8xfFK3KiDFwjJ@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:47:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OPro: Text flow around enbedded object References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >I have to use diagrams in the text of my chess articles and just use 'embed >object'; the object moves if I delete or insert text before it. Good point. If all you want to do is embed an object in text then of course you can do that. Copy to the clipboard, stick the caret in the text and use Ebed on the edit menu. You can embed any type of object. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 19:39:11 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg5rE-119Vbs-05-12N5."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:39:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg5rE-119Vbs-05-12N5; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:13 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg5rE-119Vbs-05; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:13 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg5rE-0004Vq-LT; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:12 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg5wH-0003U5-Av; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:42:25 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg5pT-00078i-7s for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:23 +0000 Received: from [80.168.70.143] (helo=relay3.mail.uk.clara.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg5pT-00078Z-2U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:23 +0000 Received: from du-040-0235.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.235] helo=lab) by relay3.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.46) id 1Eg5pR-000FeM-Dm for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:23:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: Text flow around enbedded object Message-ID: <4dd0008e95richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <50v8xfFK3KiDFwjJ@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> <50v8xfFK3KiDFwjJ@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <50v8xfFK3KiDFwjJ@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > >I have to use diagrams in the text of my chess articles and just use > 'embed >object'; the object moves if I delete or insert text before it. > Good point. If all you want to do is embed an object in text then of > course you can do that. Copy to the clipboard, stick the caret in the > text and use Ebed on the edit menu. > You can embed any type of object. Yes, but the text doesn't flow around it... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 19:39:11 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg5rM-0qsVbs-07-12Mx."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:39:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg5rM-0qsVbs-07-12Mx; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:20 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg5rM-0qsVbs-07; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:20 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg5rL-0000vH-UT; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:20 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg4xF-00079T-An; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:39:21 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg5pO-000779-Ux for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:18 +0000 Received: from [80.168.70.143] (helo=relay3.mail.uk.clara.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg5pO-00076y-Kf for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:18 +0000 Received: from du-040-0235.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.235] helo=lab) by relay3.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.46) id 1Eg5pM-000FeM-F4 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:35:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:21:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: Text flow around enbedded object Message-ID: <4dd000710erichard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > In message <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org>, Richard Torrens > writes > >Is it possible to embed (or otherwise anchor) an object so that the text > >flows around it, but the object moves with the text. > Well if you mean what I think you mean - like a drop cap - then the > answer is no. Exactly what I mean, yes. > I've long considered it a possibility. May not be too easy to add such facilities at a late stage, but how about defining a special marker character which is otherwise treated as a new line, except that it defines the top of the embedded frame - which could then presumably behave exactly as any standard non-embedded frame, with text flow as for any normal frame. This way, such an embeded frame would only be anchored to the beginning of a line, but it can't sensibly flow along a line anyway. The other problem might be identifying which frame to anchor to which marker, but I think a simple count would suffice, so the 5th frame would anchor to the fifth marker. Would something like that involve a sensible amount of programming? It would add a very useful feature, for instance in technical manuals and catalogues where the frame and text belong together. Of course the problem with this is when the bottom on the picture hits the page bottom! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 26 20:19:13 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eg6MM-2E8Vbs-04-1Iuz."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:19:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eg6MM-2E8Vbs-04-1Iuz; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:09:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eg6MM-2E8Vbs-04; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:09:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eg6MM-0000Xv-LO; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:09:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eg6MM-0007JV-4p; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:09:22 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg6Kk-0002sI-3B for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:07:42 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.89] (helo=anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eg6Kj-0002sB-Kk for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:07:41 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Eg6Dm-000MYv-67 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:00:31 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:06:39 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: Text flow around enbedded object References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> <4dd000710erichard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <4dd000710erichard@4qd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >Would something like that involve a sensible amount of programming? It >would add a very useful feature, for instance in technical manuals and >catalogues where the frame and text belong together. It is too much work to do in the foreseeable future. The game at the moment is fixing and improving the Windows program as it stands. There are plenty of rough edges to sort out. All a bit late in the day one might say, but that's what has come of messing about with a RISC OS version ;-) Top of my list for new features is tables. By the way, I like your electronic circuit web site. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 15:08:55 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EgkXa-1vAVbs-06-1LML."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:08:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EgkXa-1vAVbs-06-1LML; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:03:39 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EgkXa-1vAVbs-06; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:03:39 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EgkXa-0000hA-HT; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:03:38 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Egkcv-0006zB-49; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:09:09 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EgkUz-00054r-4T for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:01:00 +0000 Received: from [80.168.70.143] (helo=relay3.mail.uk.clara.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgkUm-00051m-OQ for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:00:47 +0000 Received: from du-040-0042.access.clara.net ([217.158.116.42] helo=lab) by relay3.mail.uk.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 4.46) id 1EgkUl-000980-Fs for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:00:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:59:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: Text flow around enbedded object Message-ID: <4dd0ea8ec5richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> <4dd000710erichard@4qd.org> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Would something like that involve a sensible amount of programming? It > >would add a very useful feature, for instance in technical manuals and > >catalogues where the frame and text belong together. > It is too much work to do in the foreseeable future. Completely understandable! > The game at the moment is fixing and improving the Windows program as it > stands. There are plenty of rough edges to sort out. Hope it's starting to pay off? But having to run any program under Windoze .... it must feel like one "programming hand" is tied behind your back. > All a bit late in the day one might say, but that's what has come of > messing about with a RISC OS version ;-) Yes, of course. Some extra features may involve minimal programming: others are difficult. > Top of my list for new features is tables. > By the way, I like your electronic circuit web site. Thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www sites http://www.4QD.co.uk http://www.4QDtec.com http://www.4QD.org All email addresses are copyright. Resale or use on any lists is expressly forbidden ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 20:06:51 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Egl1z-4YHVbs-06-1Krw."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:06:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Egl1z-4YHVbs-06-1Krw; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:35:04 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.71] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Egl1z-4YHVbs-06; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:35:04 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Egl1z-0004PT-Aq; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:35:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Egk7N-0005hR-UR; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:36:33 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Egkyl-0003mQ-SD for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:31:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.89] (helo=anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Egkyk-0003lQ-12 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:31:42 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EgkrG-000KRr-5z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:24:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:29:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OPro: Text flow around enbedded object References: <4dcfd53f45richard@4qd.org> <4dd000710erichard@4qd.org> <4dd0ea8ec5richard@4qd.org> In-Reply-To: <4dd0ea8ec5richard@4qd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >But having to run any program under Windoze .... it must feel like one >"programming hand" is tied behind your back. Last week I added dual processor support to one of the functions in DPScan. It took about half a day - try that on RISC OS... Some things on RISC OS are hard, others are easy. For Windows one often finds that the hard things on RISC OS are easy, and the easy things on RISC OS are hard. So if you're going to do a program on both RISC OS and Windows you get to do all the hard stuff on both platforms. The other thing is that time moves on. Yes programming Windows (using Windows even) was horrific back in the early 90's. However today it is RISC OS that has the fractured memory map, and Windows that has the large linear address space. The Windows user experience *was* poor. Until I got this P 2.4 GHz machine in 2003 I found RISC OS more responsive. However eventually hardware has improved enough to compensate for the poor performance of the operating system. For all the clever ARM coding, at the end of the day, it can't compete with multiple 64 bit processors running 40 times faster with 100 times the memory. I also can now use C++ and have a decent debugger. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 20:16:48 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EgpOl-0EbGPo-08-1P1g."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:16:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EgpOl-0EbGPo-08-1P1g; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:14:52 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EgpOl-0EbGPo-08; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:14:52 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EgpOk-0007PC-Vn; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:14:51 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EgoUP-0006x0-58; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:16:37 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EgpMq-0007dl-Pm for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:12:52 +0000 Received: from [219.88.242.3] (helo=dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgpMp-0007dZ-VU for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:12:52 +0000 Received: from rpc.orcon.co.nz (port-60-234-99-117.orcon.net.nz [60.234.99.117]) by dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id jASKDKOf005324 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:13:37 +1300 Subject: [softwarelist] DPlngScan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Love X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:14:50 +0100 Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1197/Tue Nov 29 07:09:01 2005 on dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hello David Way back in May 2005, Chris Manning gave details of how to make the "Lock Aspect Ratio" the default in DPlngScan. This was completely beyond my understanding which, as a person who even gets the simple Basic "Hello World" wrong, is not surprising. I realise that your priorities now are on your Windows applications but is there any likelihood that there will be an alteration to DPlngScan to give users the option to set the default to "Lock aspect ratio"? Alternatively, would you permit a third party to amend the programme and distribute it to registered users? Regards from New Zealand on a very cool Tuesday morning. David -- David Love Change is inevitable....except from vending machines. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 21:26:51 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EgqPq-0Xy000-05-16xZ."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:26:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EgqPq-0Xy000-05-16xZ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:20:03 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EgqPq-0Xy000-05; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:20:03 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EgqPq-0001jM-7x; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:20:02 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EgqV7-0007NA-1P; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:25:29 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EgqNq-0000TJ-K5 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:17:58 +0000 Received: from [212.74.114.32] (helo=mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgqNq-0000TE-Aa for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:17:58 +0000 Received: from 88-105-182-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com) ([88.105.182.251]) by mk-ironport-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with ESMTP; 28 Nov 2005 21:17:56 +0000 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= Received: from 88-105-182-251.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com ([88.105.182.251]:11190 helo=dave.nom) by mk-smarthost-8.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EgqNo-000Bsr-1q for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:17:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:18:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <4dd112c3bfdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.39) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article , David Love wrote: > Hello David > Way back in May 2005, Chris Manning gave details of how to make the > "Lock Aspect Ratio" the default in DPlngScan. [Snip] > David Can I add a yes please, me too. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 22:46:55 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Egrfa-40B000-05-15hp."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:46:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Egrfa-40B000-05-15hp; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:40:23 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.72] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Egrfa-40B000-05; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:40:23 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.33] (helo=smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Egrfa-0005pt-FX; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:40:22 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay04.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EgrfR-0007Ji-93; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:40:13 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrdB-0006FB-0V for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:37:53 +0000 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgrdA-0006F6-Kx for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:37:52 +0000 Received: from bts-1001.dialup.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.51.233] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Egrd9-0001WP-3P for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:37:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael M Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:36:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <4dd119ec1ammartin@zetnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4dd112c3bfdfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4dd112c3bfdfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.04c (RISC-OS/4.04) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.46 (19 Oct 2004) [TEST], ZapEmail 0.27 (21 Mar 2003) test-6 (32) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In article <4dd112c3bfdfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > David Love wrote: > > Hello David > > Way back in May 2005, Chris Manning gave details of how to make the > > "Lock Aspect Ratio" the default in DPlngScan. > [Snip] > > David > Can I add a yes please, me too. Me also Please. Mick -- |^^^^ Michael Martin ^^^^^ mmartin@zetnet.co.uk ^^^|Using Kinetic RiscPC| | * http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/fifepits/ *| Email and News by | | ^^^ http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mmartin/sign/ ^^^| !Pluto | |====== Risc OS immune to MS Viruses ======|===With RISC OS 4===| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Mon Nov 28 23:26:58 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EgsMW-1DRknw-06-1M3v."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:26:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EgsMW-1DRknw-06-1M3v; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:24:44 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EgsMW-1DRknw-06; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:24:44 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EgsMW-0003Uj-K9; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:24:44 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EgrdU-0008Lh-PE; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:38:12 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EgsKO-0002nT-Bz for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:22:32 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.89] (helo=anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgsKO-0002nJ-4k for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:22:32 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EgsDO-000CMp-62 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:15:19 +0000 Message-ID: <2Gbf9yCaD5iDFwQl@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:20:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) >DPlngScan to give users the option to set the default to "Lock aspect >ratio"? I'm tinkering with upgrading the TIFF handling. You might have seen a thread on comp.sys.acorn.apps where it has come to light that the program does not handle CMYK TIFF images on RISC OS. So if you'd wait a bit longer I could issue a new version with both fixes. >Alternatively, would you permit a third party to amend the programme >and distribute it to registered users? If anyone wanted to do something, what I'd suggest is a patch (e.g. using Freshen) that upgrades the existing version. That avoids a lot of trouble over copyright. >Regards from New Zealand on a very cool Tuesday morning. Brrr...itain freezes in white hell shock horror. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 29 18:22:29 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1Eh8uW-1AgVbs-08-fwN."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:22:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1Eh8uW-1AgVbs-08-fwN; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:04:56 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.210] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1Eh8uW-1AgVbs-08; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:04:56 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.31] (helo=smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1Eh8uW-0001Ay-BU; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:04:56 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Eh99b-0000xr-Mq; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:20:33 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh8sp-0000b0-R3 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:03:11 +0000 Received: from [219.88.242.3] (helo=dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh8so-0000ab-Ru for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:03:11 +0000 Received-SPF: none Received: from rpc.home.co.nz (port-60-234-98-146.orcon.net.nz [60.234.98.146]) by dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id jATH3UFx027384 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:03:35 +1300 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Love X-Editor: EmailEdit 1.10 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:24:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3dac86d14d.zed@orcon.co.nz> References: <2Gbf9yCaD5iDFwQl@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2Gbf9yCaD5iDFwQl@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/3.29 (MsgServe/3.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on dbmail-mx1.orcon.net.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) In message <2Gbf9yCaD5iDFwQl@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: >>DPlngScan to give users the option to set the default to "Lock aspect >>ratio"? > > I'm tinkering with upgrading the TIFF handling. You might have seen a > thread on comp.sys.acorn.apps where it has come to light that the > program does not handle CMYK TIFF images on RISC OS. > > So if you'd wait a bit longer I could issue a new version with both > fixes. Excellent news. Thank you David. [snip] > >>Regards from New Zealand on a very cool Tuesday morning. > > Brrr...itain freezes in white hell shock horror. I'll go and put a woolly on :-) David -- David Love If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons? -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 29 23:42:42 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EhF1W-0SLGPo-01-1g1V."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:42:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EhF1W-0SLGPo-01-1g1V; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:36:34 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.223] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EhF1W-0SLGPo-01; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:36:34 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.34] (helo=smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EhF1V-0007Vk-Vd; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:36:34 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay05.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EhF6z-0003wB-TB; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:42:14 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EhEz8-0002F4-N4 for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:34:06 +0000 Received: from [203.10.1.132] (helo=vscan02.westnet.com.au) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhEz7-0002Ev-R2 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:34:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337EE11B48C for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:34:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan02.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan02.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12040-05 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:34:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from [10.1.1.2] (dsl-220-235-109-73.nsw.westnet.com.au [220.235.109.73]) by vscan02.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37FF11AAE6 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:34:02 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <438CE580.40103@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:34:24 +1100 From: Peter Prewett User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: software list Subject: [softwarelist] windows display Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Simple problem how does one get the full Windows OP file to be displayed? I have to resize document at lower right to get the top of the window to show. I have saved default document with a small window but that does not work, next time it is still a large size with no top bar. Peter -- Peter Prewett, Tumut, New South Wales, Australia -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 30 02:02:48 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EhHEo-19y000-04-g8b."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:02:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EhHEo-19y000-04-g8b; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:58:27 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.211] (lhlo=lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EhHEo-19y000-04; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:58:27 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EhHEo-0007ls-OR; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:58:26 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1EhGKX-0003WB-3X; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:00:18 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EhHCQ-0003Pw-0U for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:55:58 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhHCP-0003Pq-Nd for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:55:57 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EhHCP-0009th-0x for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:55:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:54:49 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] windows display References: <438CE580.40103@westnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <438CE580.40103@westnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) writes >Simple problem how does one get the full Windows OP file to be displayed? >I have to resize document at lower right to get the top of the window >to show. Well the default size is quite small, so presumably a previously saved size is taking effect. >I have saved default document with a small window but that does not >work, next time it is still a large size with no top bar. Default document does not save this setting. Open a document window to the correct size, then select misc->choices->save -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Dec 1 03:15:18 2005 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <1EhenT-1ObGPo-03-zCW."pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> for <"pilling:pop3.demon.co.uk"@127.0.0.1> ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 03:15:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1EhenT-1ObGPo-03-zCW; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:07:47 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.77] (lhlo=anchor-hub.mail.demon.net) by punt3.mail.demon.net with lmtp id 1EhenT-1ObGPo-03; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:07:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.217.35] (helo=smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk) by anchor-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1EhenT-00030p-F8; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:07:47 +0000 Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay06.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp id 1Ehdt7-00014Z-9i; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:09:34 +0000 Received: from admin by svr1.spellings.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ehel4-0007tx-1O for softwarelist-OutGoing@svr1.spellings.net; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:05:18 +0000 Received: from [194.217.242.90] (helo=anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net) by svr1.spellings.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ehel3-0007tr-O9 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:05:17 +0000 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Ehel3-000FeI-7h for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:05:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 03:04:04 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] DPScan 1.23 for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE,USER_AGENT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Hi, DPlngScan 1.23 for RISC OS is available from: http://www.davidpilling.net/sc123.zip This lets you save the aspect lock setting for the image scale facility. It also uses a newer TIFF library. So you can now save/load CMYK TIFF files. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net