From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 13:26:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051791919:20:18560:109".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:26:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051791919:20:18560:109; Thu, 01 May 2003 12:25:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2127341; 1 May 2003 12:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BD04-0003Zp-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:17:20 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41CGSd12041 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:16:28 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41CGR612034 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:16:27 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19BCzD-0009Ja-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:16:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1R71FpBB$Qs+EwGi@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:14:57 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvationPro 2.70 - write protecting frames References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: charles Thank you all for your comments. As has been said putting a frame on a Master Page does have disadvantages in some circumstances - you can't easily shove the frame's position around in a document, for one. Putting your text in a picture format is not viable really as you might have to expect another editor to become familiar with unscrambling that for any rare changes. And it is so slow! Once you have set up one protective picture frame you can keep it in the document perhaps and just copy and paste it to how ever many frames you want protected. Locking the text frame or the group may be an imortant step but that precludes moving it. It does however stop accidental deletion. I shall now make more use of lock! If there were a way of identifying the protected group that would not affect printing,that would be useful, but I don't see why ungrabable grahic handles shouldn't be enough clue... Charles -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 14:56:14 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051792531:20:02684:81".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 14:56:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051792531:20:02684:81; Thu, 01 May 2003 12:35:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ah2124846; 1 May 2003 12:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BD1F-0003TW-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:18:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41CIVf12623 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:18:31 +0100 Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41CIUH12614 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:18:30 +0100 Received: from du-069-0956.access.clara.net ([217.158.170.193] helo=clara.net) by zephir.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19BD1B-000FgI-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:18:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:13:11 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.39 Mysteries - to me! Message-ID: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I read that Zip was the way to compress things as that was transparent to the PC side, retaining all the right extensions. And this seemed to be so. But trying to compress an Opro file, Zip-ping froze the RiscPC. I tried upping memory to 33620k but repeated the problem. I reverted to spark file and that worked OK. Opro file size 6.92 mb. And is there a reason why spark dir should be regarded as applications and not allowed by Messenger as attachments? Charles -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 14:56:14 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051792727:20:06219:118".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 14:56:14 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051792727:20:06219:118; Thu, 01 May 2003 12:38:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104714; 1 May 2003 12:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BDIu-00077Q-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:36:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41Caht18584 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:36:43 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41Cagm18581 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 13:36:42 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19BDIo-000Fhb-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 May 2003 13:36:42 +0100 Message-ID: <0wkl9WD$RRs+EwUT@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:35:11 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvationPro 2.70 - write protecting frames References: <1R71FpBB$Qs+EwGi@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1R71FpBB$Qs+EwGi@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >As has been said putting a frame on a Master Page does have >disadvantages in some circumstances - you can't easily shove the >frame's position around in a document, for one. Well there is the 'make local' feature, but the text then becomes editable. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 19:55:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051814731:20:24679:100".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 19:55:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051814731:20:24679:100; Thu, 01 May 2003 18:45:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112470; 1 May 2003 18:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BIzE-0007Cu-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:40:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41IdsY23827 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 19:39:54 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41IdqR23812 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 19:39:54 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19BIyF-0005ed-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 May 2003 19:39:51 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:38:31 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.39 Mysteries - to me! References: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But trying to compress an Opro file, Zip-ping froze the RiscPC. >Opro file size 6.92 mb. Sin #578921 not enabling the hour glass... see previous lengthy discussions here. Zipping just takes a long time. There is a command that lets you tune the zip deflation algorithm so it compresses slightly less but goes somewhat faster. In a word, patience. In more than a word, it's Mr. Turings halting problem, how do you know if the computer has hung or if it is working on the problem. >And is there a reason why spark dir should be regarded as applications >and not allowed by Messenger as attachments? A Spark dir 'archive' is actually a directory structure on disc, other archives are files. I guess you can email directory structures using MIME, so should be possible but not desirable - particularly by anyone who doesn't have a MIME mailer. You can shift drag a directory archive to the SFS icon bar icon and it will offer a fast conversion to Spark file format. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 22:15:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051823643:20:00287:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:15:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051823643:20:00287:42; Thu, 01 May 2003 21:14:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121550; 1 May 2003 21:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BLMp-0007yw-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 22:13:23 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41LCaQ29609 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:12:36 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41LCZ529604 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:12:35 +0100 Received: from [213.116.62.167] (helo=bc17.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BLM0-0004B6-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 01 May 2003 22:12:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 21:09:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.39 Mysteries - to me! Message-ID: <4bebeeff3esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 01 May, David Pilling wrote: > In more than a word, it's Mr. Turings halting problem, how do you know > if the computer has hung or if it is working on the problem. Go to lunch (and possibly supper and breakfast) then make a guess. :-) -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 1 22:35:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051824467:10:23434:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:35:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051824467:10:23434:59; Thu, 01 May 2003 21:27:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1112829; 1 May 2003 21:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BLVN-0000mq-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 22:22:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h41LM9t31446 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:22:09 +0100 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h41LM9Z31442 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 22:22:09 +0100 Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust103.tnt32.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.158.103] with SMTP for id h41LM7uP004884 (8.12.9/2.04); Thu, 1 May 2003 23:22:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000701c31028$144665c0$679e74d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: References: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.39 Mysteries - to me! Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 23:24:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:38 PM, David Pilling wrote: > In more than a word, it's Mr. Turings halting problem, how do you know > if the computer has hung or if it is working on the problem. Toggle Caps Lock on/off? When it works, computer is still working. Anyway, that's my experience ... -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 2 14:12:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051866188:20:29469:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 14:12:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051866188:20:29469:51; Fri, 02 May 2003 09:03:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2028251; 2 May 2003 9:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BWPJ-0003q2-00; Fri, 02 May 2003 10:00:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h428xnQ07254 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 2 May 2003 09:59:49 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h428xmH07249 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 09:59:48 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19BWOM-000JoO-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 02 May 2003 09:59:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 09:08:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SparkFS 1.39 Mysteries - to me! Message-ID: <4bec30ce5eJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <1368c3eb4b.charles@clara.co.uk>, charles wrote: > Opro file size 6.92 mb. Really? 6.92 milli-bits? Why bother zipping something so small? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 2 15:51:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051886564:20:20494:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 15:51:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051886564:20:20494:77; Fri, 02 May 2003 14:42:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2020579; 2 May 2003 14:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BbcO-0003sw-00; Fri, 02 May 2003 15:34:32 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h42EXM830499 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 2 May 2003 15:33:22 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h42EXLo30490 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 15:33:21 +0100 Received: from [62.188.120.91] (helo=62.188.120.91) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Bbb8-0000vn-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 02 May 2003 15:33:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Dr P.N.Young" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 15:27:49 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Scanning mystery. Message-ID: <4bec53918epnyoung@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist If I scan something into the app formerly known as ... , save it as a jpg and import it into OPro it comes out the right size. If I import the same image into EasiWriter or attach it to an e-mail (Pluto) it comes out magnified fourfold. Why? TIA, Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. Anne \ / __ __ \ England. Cecilia / / \ | | |\ | / _ http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/pnyoung James / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \_____________ pnyoung@argonet.co.uk. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 2 16:51:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051890389:10:09142:147".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:51:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051890389:10:09142:147; Fri, 02 May 2003 15:46:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1117095; 2 May 2003 15:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BciU-0003U5-00; Fri, 02 May 2003 16:44:54 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h42Fhxi20777 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:43:59 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h42Fhxm20771 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:43:59 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Bcha-000NAk-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 02 May 2003 16:43:58 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 16:42:38 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanning mystery. References: <4bec53918epnyoung@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bec53918epnyoung@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >If I scan something into the app formerly known as ... , save it as a jpg >and import it into OPro it comes out the right size. If I import the same >image into EasiWriter or attach it to an e-mail (Pluto) it comes out >magnified fourfold. This (I guess) is the old thing about resolution data. Some file formats have it (JPEG, TIFF) others don't (Sprite), or sometimes people don't use the facility in the formats that do support resolution data. Finally the program you import the graphic into can ignore the resolution data, and I'd guess this is what is happening. So you scan at 360 dpi, save as JPEG (which retains the 360 dpi), import into OP and it reads the 360 dpi and scales the image to the corresponding size. Import into someting else, and the 360 is replaced by 'screen resolution' usually 90dpi, and since 360/90 is 4 that's how much bigger the image appears. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 3 17:08:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051977632:10:02412:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 17:08:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051977632:10:02412:42; Sat, 03 May 2003 16:00:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1001804; 3 May 2003 15:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BzQE-0001Gx-00; Sat, 03 May 2003 16:59:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h43FwPP23203 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 3 May 2003 16:58:25 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h43FwPR23200 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 16:58:25 +0100 Received: from [62.188.120.194] (helo=62.188.120.194) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19BzP4-0004kD-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 03 May 2003 16:58:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Dr P.N.Young" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 16:20:58 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning mystery. Message-ID: <4becdc4527pnyoung@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bec53918epnyoung@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >If I scan something into the app formerly known as ... , save it as a > >jpg and import it into OPro it comes out the right size. If I import > >the same image into EasiWriter or attach it to an e-mail (Pluto) it > >comes out magnified fourfold. > This (I guess) is the old thing about resolution data. Some file formats > have it (JPEG, TIFF) others don't (Sprite), or sometimes people don't > use the facility in the formats that do support resolution data. Finally > the program you import the graphic into can ignore the resolution data, > and I'd guess this is what is happening. > So you scan at 360 dpi, save as JPEG (which retains the 360 dpi), > import into OP and it reads the 360 dpi and scales the image to the > corresponding size. Import into something else, and the 360 is replaced > by 'screen resolution' usually 90dpi, and since 360/90 is 4 that's how > much bigger the image appears. Thanks, David. I /think/ I understand this. I just wanted to know if I was doing something wrong. I'll just go on reducing the image to 25%. Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. Anne \ / __ __ \ England. Cecilia / / \ | | |\ | / _ http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/pnyoung James / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \_____________ pnyoung@argonet.co.uk. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 6 21:23:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1051987543:10:24028:253".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 21:23:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1051987543:10:24028:253; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:45:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1118350; 3 May 2003 18:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19C20J-0002Q7-00; Sat, 03 May 2003 19:44:59 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h43Ihhb24381 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 3 May 2003 19:43:43 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h43IhgH24373 for ; Sat, 3 May 2003 19:43:42 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19C1z3-000Gji-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 03 May 2003 19:43:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 19:42:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning mystery. Message-ID: <4beceeb7bbJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4becdc4527pnyoung@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bec53918epnyoung@argonet.co.uk> <4becdc4527pnyoung@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4becdc4527pnyoung@argonet.co.uk>, Dr P.N.Young wrote: > Thanks, David. I /think/ I understand this. I just wanted to know if I > was doing something wrong. I'll just go on reducing the image to 25%. Whether that's sensible depends on what the images are for. You've scanned at - say - 360 dpi, so stored the picture in a fair amount of detail. If you actually want that level of detail (for OP or wherever else) that's fine). If you are planning to display the image unmagnified on screen (where only 90dpi or thereabouts will be used) or email all of them to other people who will only then use 90 dpi, you're wasting storage and file transmission time by sending 4x the amount of infomation that's needed. You'd be better to make the original scan at 90dpi. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 6 22:13:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052255357:20:00493:610".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:13:07 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052255357:20:00493:610; Tue, 06 May 2003 21:09:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2122694; 6 May 2003 21:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19D97g-000505-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 21:33:12 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h46KWYU01400 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 6 May 2003 21:32:34 +0100 Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h46KWYN01391 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 21:32:34 +0100 Received: from modem-197.boron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.197] helo=localhost) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19D972-0004JH-PF; Tue, 06 May 2003 21:32:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:13:12 +0100 From: Robin Phillips To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Problems with auto-insert in OvPro Message-ID: X-Organization: home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.68 User-Agent: POPstar/2.03 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear colleagues, I am using OvationPro 2.66, and composing a document with various numbered sections. May I ask for some help? If I use ^F to get the Modify format dialogue, and then click the menu to the right of auto-insert to get the dialogue headed auto bullet and number, I find I can define character before and character after, and tab after. It would be very helpful if one were allowed to specify tab before, not only tab after! Logically we need a tick box tab before, then a writable icon Character before, then on the next line Character after followed by Tab after. My next problem arises from the document. After several paragraphs numbered 1,2,3, I hit return, then ^F to switch onto lower-case roman numbering, and entered some paragraphs in that style successfully, reaching xvi . Now I need to switch back to arabic! I hit return, ^F, and go to the auto bullet and number dialogue, change to the arabic numbers, and in the Start number window I use ^U and enter "7", then click OK on that dialogue and OK on the Modify format dialogue to return to my document. However, when I try typing in the next para, it starts with "17" !! Why will it not work in the way I expected, and show 7 there? Any help will be much appreciated. Yours sincerely, Robin. -- Robin Phillips, Beeston, Notts., NG9 1BT Phone: 0115 922 4930 http://www.beeston12.freeserve.co.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 7 15:41:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052316406:10:11687:164".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:41:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052316406:10:11687:164; Wed, 07 May 2003 14:06:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id bd1016433; 7 May 2003 14:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DPE4-00060d-00; Wed, 07 May 2003 14:44:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h47Di4b01127 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:44:04 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h47Di4a01123 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:44:04 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19DPDH-000CAk-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 07 May 2003 14:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:42:54 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Problems with auto-insert in OvPro References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >allowed to specify tab before, not only tab after! Logically we need a tick >box tab before, then a writable icon Character before, then on the next line >Character after followed by Tab after. Tab before is probably redundant since you have an indent and first line indent setting available to you. >on the Modify format dialogue to return to my document. However, when I try >typing in the next para, it starts with "17" !! Why will it not work in the >way I expected, and show 7 there? Probably because the numbers at one level always increase by one per paragraph unless reset by some text at a lower level. It's always easiest to think about the system in a book 1 1.1 1.1.1 1.1.2 1.1.3 1.2 1.2.1 2 2.1 2.1.1 So chapter numbers always increase, section numbers reset at the start of each chapter. I think the manual may contain some thoughts on how to get the result you desire. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 9 18:28:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052500923:10:09777:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:28:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052500923:10:09777:45; Fri, 09 May 2003 17:22:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123752; 9 May 2003 17:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19EBXv-0005Ef-00; Fri, 09 May 2003 18:20:35 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h49HKCT16168 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:20:12 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h49HKBD16162 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 18:20:11 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19EBXX-0002Kc-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 09 May 2003 18:20:11 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 18:18:50 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows new version References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I've uploaded the latest version of Ovation Pro for Windows see http://www.davidpilling.net/ovationpro/opw.html A lot of work over the last month or so has been on applets. There are now about 50 supplied. There's also an applet manager. I've taken liberties with some third party applets. I hope those whose work I've messed about will forgive me, and we'll sort things out before the program is finished. Anyway this means there are things like the clipboard manger applet. I'm wary of spending much more time on applets at this stage. People often said about the RISC OS version that although it had all sorts of novel applets it lacked some fundamental features which made it useless for them. So I'm now turning to sorting out the serious stuff. However the applet work has let me fix lots of bugs. John Ferguson has redone all the main program 'templates' i.e. window designs and icons, buttons etc. and the ones for the fill and colour supplement applets. I've made some changes to the 'applet api' i.e. how an applet is structured. The changes are simple, and would be worth doing on RISC OS too. I guess I should extend the programmers notes on the above web page to include this new info. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 10 17:12:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052582779:10:04971:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:12:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052582779:10:04971:59; Sat, 10 May 2003 16:06:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005064; 10 May 2003 16:06 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19EWrB-0003Vp-00; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:05:53 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4AG4U425163 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:04:30 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4AG4Ta25160 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:04:29 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19EWpp-000Jv0-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:04:29 +0100 Message-ID: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:02:56 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] DPSS, end of legal saga References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, Today my legal representative informed me the dispute with C Image Novasoft over their trademark 'ImageMaster' had come to a conclusion. That's 14 months of legal wrangling... What have I learnt; (a) always check out names for being someone's trademark - easy now with both the UK and US patent office having free web based searches. (b) avoid lawyers at all costs -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 10 17:22:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052583217:20:15894:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:22:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052583217:20:15894:61; Sat, 10 May 2003 16:13:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2107251; 10 May 2003 16:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19EWyF-0001vn-00; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:13:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4AGD6S26689 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:13:06 +0100 Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4AGD5M26685 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:13:06 +0100 Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.208]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030510161302.GPXG9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:13:02 +0100 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3222D435 for ; Sat, 10 May 2003 17:12:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 10 May 2003 17:12:46 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:12:45 +0100 From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPSS, end of legal saga Message-ID: <32dd7bf04b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 10 May, in message <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: >Today my legal representative informed me the dispute with C Image >Novasoft over their trademark 'ImageMaster' had come to a conclusion. Yay! >That's 14 months of legal wrangling... > >What have I learnt; > >(a) always check out names for being someone's trademark - easy now with >both the UK and US patent office having free web based searches. > >(b) avoid lawyers at all costs You missed the smiliey $-) :-) Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From tim@powys.org Tue May 13 19:10:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052603238:20:05452:12".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 19:10:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052603238:20:05452:12; Sat, 10 May 2003 21:47:18 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121411; 10 May 2003 21:47 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=greatest) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19EcBL-0004nR-0Z for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 10 May 2003 22:47:05 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:44:14 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPSS, end of legal saga Message-ID: <03369af04b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: tim@powys.org X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.05 Return-Receipt-To: tim@powys.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > Hi, > > Today my legal representative informed me the dispute with C Image > Novasoft over their trademark 'ImageMaster' had come to a conclusion. Disastrous? Or Victorious? Or an honest British compromise? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 13 19:10:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052684573:20:19506:104".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 19:10:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052684573:20:19506:104; Sun, 11 May 2003 20:22:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2109560; 11 May 2003 20:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ExLE-00049G-00; Sun, 11 May 2003 21:22:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4BKLrf10281 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 11 May 2003 21:21:53 +0100 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4BKLrd10277 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 21:21:53 +0100 Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust225.tnt37.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.168.225] with SMTP for id h4BKLnLt026421 (8.12.9/2.04); Sun, 11 May 2003 22:21:51 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001801c317fb$549cfaf0$e1a874d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows new version Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:23:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Friday, May 09, 2003 7:18 PM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > I've uploaded the latest version of Ovation Pro for Windows see > > http://www.davidpilling.net/ovationpro/opw.html > I have downloaded it. It looks so much better in 96 dpi / small fonts display than the previous versions! > A lot of work over the last month or so has been on applets. There are > now about 50 supplied. There's also an applet manager. Very impressive, nice, useful and user friendly. Arrow key, a and i (I haven't tried d /delete ...) work too. And all help available for active and inactive applets. Having Style Palette and Colour palette (and many others) available is very convenient. Those two can also be saved with default document, where ever I want them, ready to use at start-up. > I've taken liberties with some third party applets. I hope those whose > work I've messed about will forgive me, and we'll sort things out > before the program is finished. Anyway this means there are things > like the clipboard manger applet. This works well. Thanks. BTW: the global clipboard (for exchange with other windows applications) works well too. > I'm wary of spending much more time on applets at this stage. People > often said about the RISC OS version that although it had all sorts of > novel applets it lacked some fundamental features which made it > useless for them. So I'm now turning to sorting out the serious stuff. > > However the applet work has let me fix lots of bugs. I like the work you have done on the Applet Manager and the supplied Applets. > John Ferguson has redone all the main program 'templates' i.e. window > designs and icons, buttons etc. and the ones for the fill and colour > supplement applets. OP for windows looked awful at 96dpi in the previous versions. It now looks great! The buttons, alignment, arrows, 3D .... I am much impressed by this version. It is worth to download and install it for the next 6 weeks. BTW: I renamed the existing OvationPro folder to OvationPro_9-04 before I installed the new one via Control Panel-->Add new programs. After installation of the new version, I deleted the renamed folder. I know, this renaming is not needed. But, it also works OK this way. > I've made some changes to the 'applet api' i.e. how an applet is > structured. The changes are simple, and would be worth doing on RISC > OS too. I guess I should extend the programmers notes on the above > web page to include this new info. > Thanks for the continuing development. -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From tim@powys.org Wed May 14 00:19:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052867615:10:25574:14".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:19:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052867615:10:25574:14; Tue, 13 May 2003 23:13:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1024420; 13 May 2003 23:13 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=greatest) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19Fix7-0005AT-0Z for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:12:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:12:50 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPSS, end of legal saga Message-ID: References: <4DkWxKCwKSv+Ewez@pilling.demon.co.uk> <03369af04b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: tim@powys.org X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.05 Return-Receipt-To: tim@powys.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message you wrote: > >> Today my legal representative informed me the dispute with C Image > >> Novasoft over their trademark 'ImageMaster' had come to a conclusion. > >Disastrous? Or Victorious? Or an honest British compromise? > > No idea. I stopped using their name - which was quite right. They didn't > get any damages because I hadn't done them any harm (since they don't > sell RISC OS software). > > I never got close enough to them to find out what they really wanted. Sounds a bit like old Cap'n Bob Maxwell: sue first and ask questions afterwards. He kept several lawyers in business. Sorry to har you had to deal with it all and doubtless pay for your lawyer. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 14 21:48:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052945283:10:01915:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:48:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052945283:10:01915:41; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:48:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1114210; 14 May 2003 20:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19G36H-0003w8-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:43:45 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4EKgjF24413 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.21]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EKgiY24409 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:42:45 +0100 Received: from user-1612.bbd15tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.77.182.76] helo=riscpc) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19G35I-0001lF-5q for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:42:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:41:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows (Fonts) Message-ID: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi everyone I'm trying to reproduce a stylesheet on the PC version. The RiscOS version uses Homerton and Trinity and the nearest I can get is Arial and TimesNewRoman. Ideally I would like them both to be the same and I suspect that means changing the RiscOS fonts - any suggestions? Is it possible to map fonts? Dave Williams -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 14 21:57:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052945806:10:18536:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:57:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052945806:10:18536:91; Wed, 14 May 2003 20:56:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id af1108830; 14 May 2003 20:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19G3F7-0005Ha-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:52:53 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4EKqn626934 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:52:49 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EKqmf26931 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:52:48 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19G3Ey-000LpM-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:51:34 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows (Fonts) References: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I'm trying to reproduce a stylesheet on the PC version. The RiscOS version >uses Homerton and Trinity and the nearest I can get is Arial and >TimesNewRoman. >Ideally I would like them both to be the same and I suspect that means >changing the RiscOS fonts - any suggestions? Is it possible to map fonts? The next version will have font mapping - I'm working on it now. Save as DDL, load into an editor, change font names is one technique. Another one may be the fabled ability of RISC OS to alias font names. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 14 22:53:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052949218:10:15354:112".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:53:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052949218:10:15354:112; Wed, 14 May 2003 21:53:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101376; 14 May 2003 21:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19G44i-00047g-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:46:12 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4ELj0V08963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:45:00 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4ELixr08950 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:44:59 +0100 Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19G43U-0001QV-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:44:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:10:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows (Fonts) Message-ID: <4bf2a678c4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 14 May, Dave Williams wrote: > Hi everyone > I'm trying to reproduce a stylesheet on the PC version. The RiscOS > version uses Homerton and Trinity and the nearest I can get is Arial and > TimesNewRoman. > Ideally I would like them both to be the same and I suspect that means > changing the RiscOS fonts - any suggestions? Is it possible to map fonts? Use Helvetica for a direct copy of Homerton rather than Arial. -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 Acorn Publisher magazine & FD Games www.acornpublisher.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 14 23:15:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052950482:10:00176:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:15:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052950482:10:00176:49; Wed, 14 May 2003 22:14:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104808; 14 May 2003 22:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19G4V9-0001WJ-00; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:13:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4EMD3R15001 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:13:03 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EMD3t14995 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:13:03 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19G4Ug-000C4x-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 14 May 2003 23:13:02 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:11:25 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro for Windows (Fonts) References: <4bf2a3c412David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bf2a678c4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf2a678c4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Use Helvetica for a direct copy of Homerton rather than Arial. Mrs. Demarteau kindly pointed out this to me http://www.iliveonyourvisits.com/helvetica/ originally quoted in the DTP newsletter from http://www.worsleypress.com The first URL points to another http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html which contains an interesting discussion of the differences between Arial and Helvetica, including the fact that the original name of Arial was 'grotesque' which will be enough said for some people... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 13:20:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1052988662:10:28872:95".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:20:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1052988662:10:28872:95; Thu, 15 May 2003 08:51:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1100997; 15 May 2003 8:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GEKR-00027m-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 09:43:07 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4F8gJi16186 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 09:42:19 +0100 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4F8gDQ16157 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 09:42:19 +0100 Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust138.tnt41.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.117.0.138] with SMTP for id h4F8gBWn025006 (8.12.9/2.04); Thu, 15 May 2003 10:42:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" Subject: [softwarelist] OP4Win: Draw Files, EPS and other pictures Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 10:43:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist This email is only important this week 14th May till 21st May and only for owners of Artworks! I don't have any commercial interest or connection with the content. The offer can be found on the website of XARA or in XARA news. There are few Windows programs, which can import (and edit) Draw Files. Even less, which can also export in Draw or another vector (like EPS) format, supported by e.g. Ovation Pro. One of these is XARA X. That is -speaking of OP-: Export from OP as Draw Import as Draw in XARA X Edit in XARA X Export as EPS+ bitmap preview (for PostScript output: printer or pdf) or another format (at current one of the bitmap formats, supported by OP) from XARA X Import in OP Of course, the DrawFile doesn't need to be part of an OP doc. Of course, XARA X offers much more! Why this contribution to the list now? For people with Artworks, XARA has a very nice offer only valid this week: >From 14th May till 21st May. XARA X for 34 $ (yes dollar not pound) as an upgrade to Artworks. Or the retail box version for 10 $ more. Carriage costs and VAT differ. No need to send them disc or CD. How to proceed: ---Quote--- from http://www.xara.com/products/xarax/buy.asp or http://www.xara.com/products/xarax/upgrade.asp "If you own ArtWorks, you should - create a Xara account (if you don't already have one) and then email xaraclub@xara.com telling us: who you bought ArtWorks from, when you bought it, what the serial number is and what your XaraClub username is. Then wait for further instructions. Note: Under no circumstance should you purchase an Upgrade Version." ---unquote--- You can create a Xara account at and get a XaraClub username here: https://secure.commerce.xara.com/registration/joinxaraclub.asp Since I consider this a very nice offer with importance for OP4Win, I have sent this info to the list. Tonnie who only signs her mail with 'Mrs', for she doesn't want to be addressed as 'Mister, he, his and him' due to her ambiguous name ... -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 17:20:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053013441:10:29213:142".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 17:20:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053013441:10:29213:142; Thu, 15 May 2003 15:44:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id af1103766; 15 May 2003 15:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GKgI-00012u-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:30:06 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FFSOB30693 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:28:24 +0100 Received: from moomin.torch.net ([212.50.161.83]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FFSMP30669 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:28:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 86276 invoked from network); 15 May 2003 15:09:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO SONYLAPTOP) ([213.249.153.129]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.50.161.83 (qmail-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 May 2003 15:09:23 -0000 From: "Ian" To: Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:27:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi Does anyone have any experience of preparing files as PDFs for printers from Ovation Pro, they need it in CMYK format. I have Ovation Pro, I have converted the images in the DTP packs CMYK converter from Cerillica. I have set each graphic to be CMYK colour space within Ovation. Then printed from Postscript Level 1 printer driver to file Then converted on PC to pdf with Jaws PDF converter press settings. The images come out considerably different however to if I have done it as RGB images, and then printed on poscript driver and converted and then printed on my CMYK laser printer. Does anyone have any suggestions. Is this producing a decent CMYK PDF with this process. Is there anything else I shoud do? I used to use Impression Publisher and print seperations to disk using postscript driver and get film made at a local bureau but now the printers all want it on disk so they can lay it out and put it through their systems ( and make more money!!) Thanks Ian _ _ _ _ |_|_|_|_| Post: Concorde House, Trinity Park, Solihull B37 7UQ |_|_|_|_| Phone: 0121 635 5020 |_|_|_|_| Email: ian@realpoint.co.uk |_|_|_|_| Web: http://www.realpoint.co.uk Real Point -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 19:40:04 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053023574:20:01220:3232".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:40:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053023574:20:01220:3232; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:32:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2003372; 15 May 2003 17:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GMon-0004al-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:47:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FHk4r08574 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:46:04 +0100 Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FHk4I08570 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:46:04 +0100 Received: from gwen ([80.5.187.132]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030515174604.HJKV25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@gwen> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 18:46:04 +0100 From: "Nick Kaijaks" To: Subject: RE: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 18:46:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Does anyone have any experience of preparing files as PDFs > for printers from Ovation Pro, they need it in CMYK format. > > I have Ovation Pro, I have converted the images in the DTP > packs CMYK converter from Cerillica. > > I have set each graphic to be CMYK colour space within Ovation. > > Then printed from Postscript Level 1 printer driver to file I seem to recall that putting *composite* images throught the RISC OS printer drivers *always* converts them to RGB. To avoid that, there are three alternatives I can think of: 1. Use DP's scanning program (does it have a name again?) to export EPS files (that should load your TrueSep CMYK files OK), and use them instead of the native sprites in Opro. Then the CMYK EPS will get passed straight through the driver without conversion. 2. Print as separations (may be worth asking if your printer's prepress solution can recombine seps to give a composite CMYK) 3. See if you can get hold of the PS prolog file that Simon B of Cerilica has hacked for Vantage. There's a lot to be said for filmsetting... :-/ Best, Nick -- Dr Nick Kaijaks, Pinxit Design - Information Design for Internet and print http://www.kaijaks.co.uk/ mailto:nick@kaijaks.co.uk Disclaimer: caveat internettor -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 20:50:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053027874:20:19796:2307".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:50:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053027874:20:19796:2307; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:44:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2022938; 15 May 2003 19:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GOR2-0003HE-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:30:36 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FJUYS03886 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:30:34 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FJUYV03881 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:30:34 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19GOR0-0005Ip-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:30:34 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:29:13 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro References: <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua> <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Acorn Publisher magazine On 15 May, Ian wrote: > Hi Does anyone have any experience of preparing files as PDFs for > printers from Ovation Pro, they need it in CMYK format. [Snip] What you've suggested is similar to what we do with Acorn Publisher. Check a recent copy (volume 9) of AP and see if that's good enough! Feel free to contact me direct for any odd details - there are problems ;-( -- John Cartmell editor@acornpublisher.com FAX +44 (0)8700519527 Acorn Publisher magazine http://www.acornpublisher.com a magazine for computer graphics, dtp & web design the magazine for all RISC OS users -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 21:00:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053028518:10:29803:84".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:00:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053028518:10:29803:84; Thu, 15 May 2003 19:55:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ae1000173; 15 May 2003 19:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GOQR-0007SP-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:29:59 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FJTFv03480 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:29:15 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FJTEZ03477 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:29:14 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19GOPi-0004hj-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 15 May 2003 20:29:14 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 20:27:47 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro References: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> In-Reply-To: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I seem to recall that putting *composite* images throught the RISC OS >printer drivers *always* converts them to RGB. To avoid that, there are >three alternatives I can think of: My recollection is that CMYK sprites are output direct to PostScript - avoiding a conversion to RGB. Looking at the PS should allow you to check this. You need CMYK sprites, and if there is any processing enabled, it should be in CMYK space. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 22:00:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053032400:10:13634:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 22:00:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053032400:10:13634:63; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:00:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013578; 15 May 2003 20:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GPom-0001Xl-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:59:12 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FKwLh31319 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:58:21 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FKwKl31310 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:58:21 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19GPnw-000Ixx-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:58:20 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:56:39 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro References: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >My recollection is that CMYK sprites are output direct to PostScript - >avoiding a conversion to RGB. Looking at the PS should allow you to >check this. Um if the EPS applet is present -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 15 22:10:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053032523:10:17458:82".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 22:10:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053032523:10:17458:82; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:02:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1017662; 15 May 2003 21:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19GPqg-0002AQ-00; Thu, 15 May 2003 22:01:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4FL18R32460 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 15 May 2003 22:01:08 +0100 Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4FL17E32456 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 22:01:07 +0100 Received: from wallace ([195.137.110.177]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h4FL12i7030523 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 21:01:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: "Ovation Pro" Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:31:14 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP4Win: Draw Files, EPS and other pictures Message-ID: <4bf326b50bbric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua> References: <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <002d01c31abe$41d8c6e0$d2a074d5@padua>, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > This email is only important this week 14th May till 21st May > and only for owners of Artworks! > I don't have any commercial interest or connection with the > content. The offer can be found on the website of XARA or in > XARA news. [Snip] This seems a remarkable offer. Thank you for bring it to our attention, Tonnie. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053194574:20:08975:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:01 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053194574:20:08975:39; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:02:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115662; 17 May 2003 18:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19H5zq-0006XX-00; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:01:26 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4HI0r630273 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:00:53 +0100 Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4HI0ql30259 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:00:52 +0100 Received: from du-069-0865.access.clara.net ([217.158.170.102] helo=clara.net) by zephir.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19H5zG-0002BM-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:00:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:52:02 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> In-Reply-To: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it only displays the left half of the picture; I have maximisewd the amount of memory allocated in choices to 67584k of RAM. When I drop the same file into OPro it renders fine. Any suggestions, please? Charles -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053206376:20:17941:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053206376:20:17941:51; Sat, 17 May 2003 21:19:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2016891; 17 May 2003 21:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19H94H-0004BZ-00; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:18:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4HLHSU12556 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:17:28 +0100 Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4HLHSS12548 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:17:28 +0100 Received: from du-069-0900.access.clara.net ([217.158.170.137] helo=clara.net) by zephir.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19H93V-0001ME-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:17:25 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:12:13 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > In on Sat 17 May, charles wrote: > > When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it > > only displays the left half of the picture; > > > > I have maximisewd the amount > > of memory allocated in choices to 67584k of RAM. > > > > When I drop the same file into OPro it renders fine. > > > > Any suggestions, please? > > > > Charles > > Is your page size setting large enough to display the whole image? Thanks, Stephen. I changed the page from portrait to landscape and that shows much more. > > Try moving the image. Does this reveal more? It wasn't. But with the different page is now showing more. > > Try increasing the dpi settings (from 90, probably). This will reduce the > displayed size of the image, but reveal more of it. Couldn't see how to do this in Choices. Where should I change this setting, please? Charles -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053240893:21:18653:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053240893:21:18653:58; Sun, 18 May 2003 06:54:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2002705; 18 May 2003 6:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HI3o-0000Pp-00; Sun, 18 May 2003 07:54:20 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4I6rAB22882 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 18 May 2003 07:53:10 +0100 Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (zephir.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.53]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4I6r9l22877 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 07:53:09 +0100 Received: from du-069-0411.access.clara.net ([217.158.145.157] helo=clara.net) by zephir.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19HI2e-000OFC-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 07:53:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 06:50:01 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan - thanks Message-ID: References: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> <4bf433584cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf433584cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Thanks, Stephen and Jeremy, Your responses have removed the problem and helped my comprehension of the manual. Charles -- RiscOS4 OvationPro ROUGOL ProCAD+ http://www.zynet.co.uk/dsnell tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053266420:20:02641:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053266420:20:02641:49; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:00:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002486; 18 May 2003 13:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HOhc-0000Zs-00; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:59:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4IDxMG05529 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:59:22 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IDxK105525 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:59:21 +0100 Received: from [62.188.146.163] (helo=hal) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19HOh2-0004ZT-9S for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 14:59:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c31d45$fac3f100$a392bc3e@hal> From: "Christopher Bryant" To: References: <003e01c31af6$99fe9060$0110100a@SONYLAPTOP> <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: O Pro CMYK Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:31:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist [earlier stuff snipped] The question really is whether postscript has the resources to deal with CMYK. If it has, the printer rgb output could easily be hacked. Does anyone more up to date know? My elderly (1986!) postscript manual only offers the operators and . Christopher Bryant -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053275017:21:11925:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053275017:21:11925:45; Sun, 18 May 2003 16:23:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022784; 18 May 2003 16:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HQwH-0001pn-00; Sun, 18 May 2003 17:23:09 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4IGMPo07553 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 18 May 2003 17:22:25 +0100 Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IGMPa07546 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 17:22:25 +0100 Received: from RPC ([213.48.248.26]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 18 May 2003 17:25:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:19:52 +0100 From: Bruce Goatly To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <979093f44b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Perfect Page X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b User-Agent: POPstar/2.05 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <979093f44b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > On the otherhand if you scale an image within DPS to fit some paper, > definition is lost which shows in the printing. The answer is to > increase the sampling by the required scaling factor first, then do the > scaling. But Draw is better at doing this, as DPS takes ages to re-do > sampling on big files. I think this is where the confusion lies - you don't want to resample the graphic, merely resize it. And the way you do this (without losing any information) is to change the 'dpi' values in the toolbox, usually floating below the main window. (As, indeed, others have already said, but I'm just emphasizing the point.) Bruce -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053293372:20:08888:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053293372:20:08888:42; Sun, 18 May 2003 21:29:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008282; 18 May 2003 21:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HVhp-0008QA-00; Sun, 18 May 2003 22:28:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4ILRc018409 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 18 May 2003 22:27:38 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.185]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4ILRb718403 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 22:27:37 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.162] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19HVgv-0004Ei-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 23:27:37 +0200 Received: from [213.6.73.240] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19HVgu-00013l-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 23:27:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 23:14:06 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: O Pro CMYK Message-ID: References: <000201c31d45$fac3f100$a392bc3e@hal> In-Reply-To: <000201c31d45$fac3f100$a392bc3e@hal> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <000201c31d45$fac3f100$a392bc3e@hal> "Christopher Bryant" wrote: > [earlier stuff snipped] > > The question really is whether postscript has the resources to deal > with CMYK. If it has, the printer rgb output could easily be hacked. > Does anyone more up to date know? My elderly (1986!) postscript manual > only offers the operators and . PostScript has absolutely no problem dealing with CMYK (and even more than that depending on which level of PS we are talking of). The setcmykcolor operator is present in some level 1 implementations and a mandatory part of PS level 2. There is no point in hacking the printer rgb output, at least not if you meant post-processing the rgb PS output that has been generated - the important information is already lost at this stage. As David wrote, CMYK sprites printed from OPro (or from Impression, for that matter) end up as CMYK in the PostScript stream, so this is no problem. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053301611:20:17905:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053301611:20:17905:41; Sun, 18 May 2003 23:46:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114255; 18 May 2003 23:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HXrC-0000vm-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:46:22 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4INji104756 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:45:44 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4INji704751 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:45:44 +0100 Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=greatest) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19HXqZ-0005G6-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 19 May 2003 00:45:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 00:44:28 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message Bruce Goatly wrote: > In message <979093f44b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > > On the otherhand if you scale an image within DPS to fit some paper, > > definition is lost which shows in the printing. The answer is to > > increase the sampling by the required scaling factor first, then do the > > scaling. But Draw is better at doing this, as DPS takes ages to re-do > > sampling on big files. > > I think this is where the confusion lies - you don't want to resample the > graphic, merely resize it. And the way you do this (without losing any > information) is to change the 'dpi' values in the toolbox, usually floating > below the main window. (As, indeed, others have already said, but I'm just > emphasizing the point.) Agreed, thanks. But when I tried it earlier, it did nothing. Dunno why not. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053336604:20:27375:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053336604:20:27375:68; Mon, 19 May 2003 09:30:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2028164; 19 May 2003 9:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Hguy-0002L3-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:26:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4J9Pc201059 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:25:38 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4J9Pbt01054 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:25:37 +0100 Received: from ypical.demon.co.uk ([158.152.78.65]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19HgtO-0000Xl-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:25:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:22:02 +0100 From: Fred Bambrough To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] clib Message-ID: References: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> In-Reply-To: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> X-Organization: @ypical User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> Peter Prewett wrote: > When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is > out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. > > I have the latest version of CLIB 5.45. > > What have I done wrong:-( At a guess you've installed the 32 bit CLib into your original copy of !System rather than upgrade !System itself. That's an OK way of doing it except that CLib 5.45 won't be installed until a program requiring it loads it. OP loads it whereas TransIMP doesn't. Castle's version of !System runs 32bit versions of CLIB, FPEmulator, CallASWI at boot time. So you have a choice. Update your !System or change TransIMP's run file to run the new CLIB. -- Fred -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053357925:20:20744:212".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053357925:20:20744:212; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:25:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2025909; 19 May 2003 15:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HmEZ-0007mZ-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:07:27 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4JF6fk29142 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:06:41 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4JF6bn29115 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:06:40 +0100 Received: from [62.188.120.89] (helo=hal) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19HmDb-0000eg-ET for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:06:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01c31e18$89a13e00$5978bc3e@hal> From: "Christopher Bryant" To: References: <000201c31d45$fac3f100$a392bc3e@hal> Subject: [softwarelist] Re: O Pro CMYK Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:34:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Martin W wrote > PostScript has absolutely no problem dealing with CMYK... > The setcmykcolor operator is ... a mandatory part of PS level 2. Could you be kind enough to supply the syntax for this operator, please? (Arguments and their ranges?) > There is no point in hacking the printer rgb output, at least not if you > meant post-processing the rgb PS output that has been generated - the > important information is already lost at this stage. I'm sure you are right, though I don't know enough about it to know what gets lost, but can't the prior information one can glean from the definitions in CMYK windows while editing colours in OPro be put to later use? Christopher Bryant -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:24:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053364950:21:10983:99".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:24:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053364950:21:10983:99; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:22:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2021844; 19 May 2003 17:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Ho0E-00075B-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:00:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4JGxha03214 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:59:43 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4JGxgI03209 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:59:42 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19HnzB-0003Aq-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:59:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:45:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] clib Message-ID: <4bf5215b04Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> References: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au>, Peter Prewett wrote: > When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is > out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. > I have the latest version of CLIB 5.45. > What have I done wrong:-( Presumably you are not loading CLib at boot time, but one of these applications is loading it if it needs it. So depending on which one you run first the Clib may or may not have been softloaded by then? Possibly both apps are softloading a version of Clib? It should be loaded from System:Modules so that whoever loads it the same version is found; maybe one of your apps is loading an oldr copy from somewhere else? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:25:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053417867:20:22614:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:25:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053417867:20:22614:47; Tue, 20 May 2003 08:04:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022435; 20 May 2003 8:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19I25M-0003tX-00; Tue, 20 May 2003 09:03:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4K81xu11485 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 20 May 2003 09:01:59 +0100 Received: from mail.chariot.net.au (mail.chariot.net.au [203.87.95.38]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4K81vD11475 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 09:01:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (ppp-171.cust203-87-116.ghr.chariot.net.au [203.87.116.171]) by mail.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id E327C180936 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 17:31:57 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:41:51 +1030 From: Peter Prewett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] clib Message-ID: <53be4ff54b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> References: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > In message <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> > Peter Prewett wrote: > > > When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is > > out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. > > > > I have the latest version of CLIB 5.45. > > > > What have I done wrong:-( > > At a guess you've installed the 32 bit CLib into your original copy of > !System rather than upgrade !System itself. That's an OK way of doing it > except that CLib 5.45 won't be installed until a program requiring it > loads it. OP loads it whereas TransIMP doesn't. > > Castle's version of !System runs 32bit versions of CLIB, FPEmulator, > CallASWI at boot time. > > So you have a choice. Update your !System or change TransIMP's run file to > run the new CLIB. > Thanks for the info. Now life is getting complicated, this is now getting past the point when a straight user (non techie) can understand and beyond them to sort the problem out even if they knew the answer above, or had access to the internet. Or is just me reading to much into it:-( If not then we then surely need a definitive version of System that has all these problems sorted out instead of bits here and their. I believe my System has lots modules that are not needed, left over or just out of date. I recently did a clean update on my second computer of Select (the reasons are another saga) starting at the !Boot file, supplied on Select 2 for OS 4.02, then installing Select on that System looks a lot different than mine. And that is why I had the problem above. Wonder what else needs adjustment!! I hope that Select 3 will have an up to date System. Cheers Peter -- Peter Prewett, Coromandel Valley, South Australia -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:25:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053196290:10:12493:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:25:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053196290:10:12493:58; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:31:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1011110; 17 May 2003 18:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19H6RY-0000rH-00; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:30:04 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4HITdq04337 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:29:39 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4HITd304333 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:29:39 +0100 Received: from spcap.demon.co.uk ([62.49.28.232] helo=riscpc.local.net) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19H6R7-000HSu-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 19:29:37 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 19:29:18 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Parkin Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 17 May, charles wrote: > When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it > only displays the left half of the picture; > > I have maximisewd the amount > of memory allocated in choices to 67584k of RAM. > > When I drop the same file into OPro it renders fine. > > Any suggestions, please? > > Charles Is your page size setting large enough to display the whole image? Try moving the image. Does this reveal more? Try increasing the dpi settings (from 90, probably). This will reduce the displayed size of the image, but reveal more of it. Stephen -- Stephen Parkin -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:25:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053209137:10:20309:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:25:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053209137:10:20309:68; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:05:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129779; 17 May 2003 22:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19H9nK-0006kv-00; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:04:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4HM4eh21848 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:04:40 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4HM4eo21842 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:04:40 +0100 Received: from spcap.demon.co.uk ([62.49.28.232] helo=riscpc.local.net) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19H9nD-000CHZ-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:04:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 23:03:29 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Parkin Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 17 May, charles wrote: > In message you wrote: > > > In on Sat 17 May, charles wrote: > > > When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it > > > only displays the left half of the picture; > > > > > > I have maximisewd the amount > > > of memory allocated in choices to 67584k of RAM. > > > > > > When I drop the same file into OPro it renders fine. > > > > > > Any suggestions, please? > > > > > > Charles > > > > Is your page size setting large enough to display the whole image? > > Thanks, Stephen. > > I changed the page from portrait to landscape and that shows much more. > > > > Try moving the image. Does this reveal more? > > It wasn't. But with the different page is now showing more. > > > > Try increasing the dpi settings (from 90, probably). This will reduce the > > displayed size of the image, but reveal more of it. > > Couldn't see how to do this in Choices. Where should I change this > setting, please? The simplest way is via the toolbar attached to the main image window. There are two boxes labelled dpi, directly above the 'Undo' button. These represent the X axis (width) and Y axis (height) resolutions. Just delete the numbers (usual default is 90) and type another, eg 200 and press return. If resaved, the new resolution will be saved within the image. However, it is probably best not to do this, as further operations on JPEGs can degrade the image. If you want to change the default setting, the option to do so is available in choices from the icon bar. Open the config window and click on 'Page'. Here you can set your default page size, display units, and X & Y resolutions. Click 'OK' and 'Save'. Stephen -- Stephen Parkin -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:25:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053209621:10:04092:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:25:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053209621:10:04092:49; Sat, 17 May 2003 22:13:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004175; 17 May 2003 22:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19H9vj-0002zD-00; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:13:27 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4HMDOC23335 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:13:24 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4HMDNV23330 for ; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:13:23 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19H9ve-000DWX-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 23:13:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 22:25:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: <4bf433584cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk>, charles wrote: > When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it > only displays the left half of the picture; The jpeg will have been scanned at so-many dpi, say 90. If it "measures" 1800 pixels across that means it is equivalent to 20 inches across. If the default screen page size is, eg A4 portrait, the program will only show 8 inches or so of width of picture. You could change the screen size to portrait, or something rather bigger than A4. Or you could tell the program to fit more than 90 dpi into each horizontal inch of the screen. I think that option is buried somewhere on the iconbar choices/options stuff - you'll probably need to read the manual first. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:25:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053270019:10:14837:105".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:25:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053270019:10:14837:105; Sun, 18 May 2003 15:00:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101809; 18 May 2003 14:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HPd2-0002iD-00; Sun, 18 May 2003 15:59:12 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4IEx3g17785 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 18 May 2003 15:59:03 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4IEx2D17778 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 15:59:02 +0100 Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=greatest) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19HPcs-0001VU-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 18 May 2003 15:59:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:56:27 +0100 From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: <979093f44b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <07ce1ff44b.charles@clara.co.uk> charles wrote: > When I drop a 286,116 bytes total jpeg into DPlngScan 1.18 it > only displays the left half of the picture; I have just created a 1,583,274 bytes JPEG. DPS only displayed the top left hand corner of the picture. > I have maximisewd the amount of memory allocated in choices to 67584k > of RAM. The Max RAM is at 20065K, RAM at 19951K and Disc at 51661K. But if I alter the page size in DPS to A0, it displays fine. > When I drop the same file into OPro it renders fine. Presumably OPro compresses the image to fit the frame? The advantage of this technique is that it gives far better printing quality. For the same reason I frequently put large images into Draw and then reduce their size to fit the paper ( Transform > Magnify ) and super printing comes out. On the otherhand if you scale an image within DPS to fit some paper, definition is lost which shows in the printing. The answer is to increase the sampling by the required scaling factor first, then do the scaling. But Draw is better at doing this, as DPS takes ages to re-do sampling on big files. > Any suggestions, please? Put the file on a web-site so that I can see if I a problem with it. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:26:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053324045:10:05594:144".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:26:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053324045:10:05594:144; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:00:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007114; 19 May 2003 6:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Hdh4-0006CR-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:00:18 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4J5xHO18194 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:59:17 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4J5xGf18188 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:59:17 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19Hdg3-0000Ax-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 19 May 2003 06:59:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 06:32:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !DPlngScan Message-ID: <4bf4e3ce57Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Agreed, thanks. But when I tried it earlier, it did nothing. Dunno why > not. Because there's a difference between the dpi set there and the dpi set from the iconbar choices for the type of file that DPIS is reading? If you want the incoming fie to be treated as - say - 600 dpi - you need to tell DPIS to do that as it reads the file,,because otherwise it will default (probably to 90 or 120 dpi). -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 20:26:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053330808:10:23667:120".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:26:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053330808:10:23667:120; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:53:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104131; 19 May 2003 7:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19HfPk-00025N-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:50:32 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4J7nbN04687 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:49:37 +0100 Received: from mail.chariot.net.au (mail.chariot.net.au [203.87.95.38]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4J7nY104682 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 08:49:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (ppp-154.cust203-87-115.ghr.chariot.net.au [203.87.115.154]) by mail.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id E9686180F53 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:19:42 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:49:31 +1030 From: Peter Prewett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] clib Message-ID: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. I have the latest version of CLIB 5.45. What have I done wrong:-( Cheers -- Peter Prewett, Coromandel Valley, South Australia -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Tue May 20 20:26:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053373508:10:17895:36".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:26:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053373508:10:17895:36; Mon, 19 May 2003 19:45:08 GMT Received: from technetium.cix.co.uk ([194.153.0.53]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018355; 19 May 2003 19:45 GMT Received: (from cix@localhost) by technetium.cix.co.uk (8.11.3/CIX/8.11.2) id h4JJfo212936 for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Mon, 19 May 2003 20:41:50 +0100 (BST) X-Envelope-From: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:41 +0100 (BST) From:(E J Phillips) Subject: Opro for windows To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Cc: ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.52.2000, Windows 98 4.10.2222 ( A ) Have just downloaded the Windows version for first time. Looks ok to me Just 2 problems 1 The help file says it will die after 30 days: can I get a version that won't die? 2 May be nothing to do with it, but loading this was the last major thing I did, but now I do not get the @ symbol by pressing the key on the keyboard (that gives a quote sign ie"), I have to use alt64 instead. Any connection? John Phillips. Cumbria in the North West From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 21:13:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053460927:10:28334:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 21:13:35 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053460927:10:28334:55; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:02:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1106629; 20 May 2003 20:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IDDF-0007LV-00; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:53 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4KJtAe18876 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:10 +0100 Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4KJt8218863 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:08 +0100 Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.177.21]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030520195507.VECJ12018.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:07 +0100 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055452C9B6 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 20 May 2003 20:55:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 20:55:05 +0100 From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.36) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear All/David, For some reason a MimeMap entry has been added to default MimeMap file in Select3 which maps files downloaded with the .zip extension to be mapped to the filetype a91 (Zip) rather than &ddc (Archive) as it was previously. Is there any chance of getting SparkFS updated so that it will handle them (by responding to double clicks)? Thanks in advance. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue May 20 23:33:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053466378:20:08947:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 23:33:44 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053466378:20:08947:55; Tue, 20 May 2003 21:32:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2009252; 20 May 2003 21:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IEfR-0007Km-00; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:29:05 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4KLSOI14688 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:28:24 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4KLSNJ14682 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:28:24 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IEel-00096h-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 20 May 2003 22:28:23 +0100 Message-ID: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 22:26:57 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >For some reason a MimeMap entry has been added to default MimeMap file >in Select3 which maps files downloaded with the .zip extension to be >mapped to the filetype a91 (Zip) rather than &ddc (Archive) as it was >previously. >Is there any chance of getting SparkFS updated so that it will handle >them (by responding to double clicks)? SparkFS (many versions at any rate) have a *command that lets you change the file type for a given archive type. When Justin Fletcher proposed a new file type just for Zip files, I gathered he was thinking of making available something which did the necessary patching. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 00:23:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053472455:20:27655:76".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:23:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053472455:20:27655:76; Tue, 20 May 2003 23:14:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2100745; 20 May 2003 23:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IGAC-0001Ur-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:04:56 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4KN4LF02212 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:04:21 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4KN4KA02205 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:04:20 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-84-147.ipn11.paradise.net.nz [203.79.84.147]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A30AE949 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 11:04:10 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 10:22:14 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have the OpticPro scanning software and parallel port scanner, and as usual the Preview button pre-scans the A4 scanning area. It's not quick, so oftentimes if I'm scanning a smaller sized object, I measure the item, enter the co-ordinates and scan without bothering to wait for a preview. Is there a way to reduce that preview area to a smaller size? Like, preview A5 landscape top of the page would be a help. Brian -- B r i a n A d a m Auckland NEW ZEALAND -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 01:04:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053474557:20:27992:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 01:04:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053474557:20:27992:74; Tue, 20 May 2003 23:49:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028148; 20 May 2003 23:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IGoR-0006xG-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:46:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4KNkLt08397 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:46:21 +0100 Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4KNkK108389 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:46:20 +0100 Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.180.21]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030520234619.MIFN11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:46:19 +0100 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1382C9B6 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 00:43:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 21 May 2003 00:43:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 00:43:16 +0100 From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.36) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 20 May, in message <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: >>For some reason a MimeMap entry has been added to default MimeMap file >>in Select3 which maps files downloaded with the .zip extension to be >>mapped to the filetype a91 (Zip) rather than &ddc (Archive) as it was >>previously. >>Is there any chance of getting SparkFS updated so that it will handle >>them (by responding to double clicks)? > >SparkFS (many versions at any rate) have a *command that lets you change >the file type for a given archive type. When Justin Fletcher proposed a >new file type just for Zip files, I gathered he was thinking of making >available something which did the necessary patching. I guess you're talking about the *SparkFSMapFiletype command :-). Unfortunately that doesn't seem to do the trick and issuing the command: *SparkFSMapFiletype zip a91 still results in SparkFS not responding to double clicks on files typed to &a91. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 02:13:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053479554:10:25638:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:13:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053479554:10:25638:53; Wed, 21 May 2003 01:12:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1022857; 21 May 2003 1:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19II72-0004Hq-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:09:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L197918833 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:09:07 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L197618827 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:09:07 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19II6M-00023v-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:09:06 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 02:08:05 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanning Preview References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Is there a way to reduce that preview area to a smaller size? >Like, preview A5 landscape top of the page would be a help. Previews are just user defined scans, and like any other user scan can be redefined. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053479643:20:00249:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053479643:20:00249:68; Wed, 21 May 2003 01:14:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027905; 21 May 2003 1:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19II7h-0004rU-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:10:29 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L1ASG18971 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:10:28 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L1ASA18967 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:10:28 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19II7f-0002Wm-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:10:27 +0100 Message-ID: <0utFqIKhGty+EwF4@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 02:08:49 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I guess you're talking about the *SparkFSMapFiletype command :-). Yes. >Unfortunately that doesn't seem to do the trick and issuing the command: >*SparkFSMapFiletype zip a91 >still results in SparkFS not responding to double clicks on files typed >to &a91. Um it might have to be issued fairly early on in procedings. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053480026:21:18536:130".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053480026:21:18536:130; Wed, 21 May 2003 01:20:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112260; 21 May 2003 1:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IIFZ-0000h8-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:18:37 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L1IYQ19854 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:18:34 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L1IYS19848 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:18:34 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IIFV-0009rM-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 02:18:34 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 02:17:06 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I guess you're talking about the *SparkFSMapFiletype command :-). >Unfortunately that doesn't seem to do the trick and issuing the command: >*SparkFSMapFiletype zip a91 >still results in SparkFS not responding to double clicks on files typed >to &a91. There are some notes with SparkFS (see !Run?) which discuss assigning the Spark filetype to ArcFS files - I guess they would go through the process. There are changes in a number of places. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053488609:20:14707:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:33 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053488609:20:14707:55; Wed, 21 May 2003 03:43:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2013304; 21 May 2003 3:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IKUJ-0005UI-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:59 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L3fAw04359 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:10 +0100 Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L3f9s04356 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:09 +0100 Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.28]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030521034108.CVJ9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:08 +0100 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B6F2C9C1 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 21 May 2003 04:41:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 04:41:07 +0100 From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.36) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 21 May, in message David Pilling wrote: >>I guess you're talking about the *SparkFSMapFiletype command :-). >>Unfortunately that doesn't seem to do the trick and issuing the command: >>*SparkFSMapFiletype zip a91 >>still results in SparkFS not responding to double clicks on files typed >>to &a91. > >There are some notes with SparkFS (see !Run?) which discuss assigning >the Spark filetype to ArcFS files - I guess they would go through the >process. There are changes in a number of places. Ok, I've got it now. To !SparkFS.!Run add the lines: | | Map Zips from &ddc to &a91 (for Select3) SparkFSMapFiletype 0x4 0xa91 Set Alias$@RunType_A91 SparkFSFiler_OpenDir %%*0 To !SparkFS.!Boot add the line: Set Alias$@RunType_A91 Run .!Run %%*0 And to !SparkFS.Config.AtExit add the line: Set Alias$@RunType_A91 Run .!Run %*0 It doesn't matter where you add the lines for the last two files, but I would suggest adding the four lines to the !Run file just after the ArcFS mapping (near the end of the file). Thanks. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053490346:21:14303:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053490346:21:14303:75; Wed, 21 May 2003 04:12:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000622; 21 May 2003 4:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IKxA-0000LP-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:11:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L4Bel07978 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:11:40 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L4Bcp07972 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 05:11:39 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-81-140.ipn10.paradise.net.nz [203.79.81.140]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A9F4AF03B for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:11:30 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:12:31 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Is there a way to reduce that preview area to a smaller size? > >Like, preview A5 landscape top of the page would be a help. > Previews are just user defined scans, and like any other user scan can > be redefined. What's the way to redefine it? The Preview button on my TWAIN app scans the whole area whatever my defined scan area is. Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:38 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053524373:20:02075:82".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:38 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053524373:20:02075:82; Wed, 21 May 2003 13:39:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id al2001448; 21 May 2003 13:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ITjA-0000L9-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:33:56 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LDXCd18630 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:33:12 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LDXBb18621 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:33:11 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19ITiP-00033Z-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:33:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:32:11 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz>, brian wrote: > YES! Please can I define a preview area that is NOT the whole A4 page? > David says it's user-redefineable. In my system inside !TWAIN.Sources.!CanonIX.config there's a whole bunch of stuff, including one line that defines a particular scan I do often (of some crosswords). It's in a bunch of lines starting: Setup Fax Setup Photo(6x4) Setup Photo(7x5) Setup BWPreview Setup GreyPreview Setup ColPreview Setup Photo(5x3) Setup RTcrossword I'd guess that fiddling with some of the values might be useful, but wouldn't know which ones. Alternatively define a new scan with your own name - see drop-down menu offered at bottom of the main acquire window. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:49 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053499250:10:09689:69".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053499250:10:09689:69; Wed, 21 May 2003 06:40:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1008737; 21 May 2003 6:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19INFt-0004Gf-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:39:17 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L6ci624355 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:38:44 +0100 Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L6cii24351 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:38:44 +0100 Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h4L6chi4024872 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 06:38:43 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 07:38:01 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz>, brian wrote: > In article , David Pilling > wrote: > > >Is there a way to reduce that preview area to a smaller size? Like, > > >preview A5 landscape top of the page would be a help. > > Previews are just user defined scans, and like any other user scan > > can be redefined. > What's the way to redefine it? The Preview button on my TWAIN app scans > the whole area whatever my defined scan area is. I have an Epson TWAIN driver. As I understand it, a Preview scan does the fastest pass of the scanner, which is a low res scan. It scans everything in the pass and doesn't inhibit output until it sees the defined area. As the scanner can't physically move the head any faster down the page, I don't see anything wrong in this. What you are presumably suggesting is that the scanner only Preview scans part way down a page, defined by the user rectangle, and then homes again? Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053499922:10:01366:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053499922:10:01366:44; Wed, 21 May 2003 06:52:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1029373; 21 May 2003 6:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19INR3-0000Oa-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:50:49 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L6oie26181 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:50:44 +0100 Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L6ohx26177 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:50:43 +0100 Received: from wallace ([195.137.110.177]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h4L6odi4026167 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 06:50:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 07:50:37 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf5f297f2bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: [Snip] > I have an Epson TWAIN driver. > As I understand it, a Preview scan does the fastest pass of > the scanner, which is a low res scan. It scans everything in > the pass and doesn't inhibit output until it sees the defined > area. Epson GT-7000 scanner here does the same as Ray describes. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 15:26:51 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053511794:10:13902:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053511794:10:13902:77; Wed, 21 May 2003 10:09:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ag1014006; 21 May 2003 10:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IQNN-0000wv-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 10:59:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4L9wOq08700 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 10:58:24 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (smtp-1b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.210]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4L9wNf08693 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 10:58:24 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-79-124.ipn8.paradise.net.nz [203.79.79.124]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id A2A4A8346C for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 21:58:12 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 21:59:08 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz>, brian > wrote: > > In article , David Pilling > > wrote: > > > >Is there a way to reduce that preview area to a smaller size? Like, > > > >preview A5 landscape top of the page would be a help. > > > Previews are just user defined scans, and like any other user scan > > > can be redefined. > > What's the way to redefine it? The Preview button on my TWAIN app scans > > the whole area whatever my defined scan area is. > I have an Epson TWAIN driver. > As I understand it, a Preview scan does the fastest pass of the scanner, > which is a low res scan. It scans everything in the pass and doesn't > inhibit output until it sees the defined area. > As the scanner can't physically move the head any faster down the page, I > don't see anything wrong in this. Except in my case it takes over 30 seconds - more time than I want to spend waiting in single-task mode - while it clicks and whirrs and slowly travels down the page. If I have a small piece to scan why can I not preview approximately that small area? > What you are presumably suggesting is that the scanner only Preview scans > part way down a page, defined by the user rectangle, and then homes again? YES! Please can I define a preview area that is NOT the whole A4 page? David says it's user-redefineable. So how? Brian A -- B r i a n A d a m Auckland NEW ZEALAND -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 17:16:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053533034:21:11553:166".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 17:16:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053533034:21:11553:166; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:03:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id am2000871; 21 May 2003 16:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IUmt-0003pq-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:41:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LEeFA18816 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:40:15 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LEeEP18811 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:40:15 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IUlI-000GPo-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:40:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:38:43 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Setup GreyPreview Well don't start hacking the config file as above Lets say you have TWAIN 2, then the name of the preview used when you're in grey scale mode is "GreyPreview". You go to the user defined scan menu, and use load to load "GreyPreview", you change the parameters as you wish, e.g. different area or different resolution. Back to the user scan menu and use 'save as' using the name "GreyPreview". So just as with any other user scan you've changed the parameters for this one. By default the colour previews are something like 50dpi and 8bpp, for the benefit of A5000 users, if you have a modern machine it's worth changing to 24dpi and perhaps higher resolution. Another hint which may be of interest is that some of the drivers (Epson and Nikon I think) have an alternative set of templates inside them which give a much bigger window. If you're using that you might like to have higher resolution previews. Thanks to Tony Cropper for designing these. Some scanners do have a setting that trades off some accuracy for faster scanning - I think the newer Epsons have such a HSS (high speed scan) setting. Some take this to an extreme and have a preview mode. However most don't so the best anyone can do for preview is just a particular collection of settings for a normal scan. How fast you can scan does also depend on things like the type of interface, and perhaps with SCSI how it is configured. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 20:05:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053543344:20:05555:117".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 20:05:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053543344:20:05555:117; Wed, 21 May 2003 18:55:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2006577; 21 May 2003 18:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IYf2-00014I-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:50:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LInGb23777 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:49:16 +0100 Received: from desire.actrix.co.nz (desire.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.164]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LInBU23758 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:49:14 +0100 Received: from .actrix.gen.nz (ak-d14.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.14]) by desire.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id D7F7D15846 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 06:49:02 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 20:09:10 +1300 From: David Love To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Scanning with DpingScan ... Message-ID: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi! At all times I have !ArcFax loaded onto the iconbar. When scanning with !DPingScan, the Preview is OK but often when then selecting an area and scanning, the result is that !ArcFax is initiated. Can anyone tell me why this is so? And, no I do not click on the Fax button :-) This is not life threatening but is annoying :-) David -- David Love There is no cure for birth or death save to enjoy the interval. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 21:06:03 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053547100:20:22301:212".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 21:06:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053547100:20:22301:212; Wed, 21 May 2003 19:58:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2023539; 21 May 2003 19:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IZB7-000390-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 20:23:09 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LJN3l32617 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 20:23:03 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LJN2s32608 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 20:23:02 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19IZB0-0000oQ-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 21 May 2003 20:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 20:21:32 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanning with DpingScan ... References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >At all times I have !ArcFax loaded onto the iconbar. When scanning with >!DPingScan, the Preview is OK but often when then selecting an area and >scanning, the result is that !ArcFax is initiated. > Initiated meaning what? >Can anyone tell me why this is so? And, no I do not click on the Fax >button Wouldn't make any difference. A scan should only end up in the program the scanner driver is launched from. However I can see a snag, something like open scanner from ArcFax open other windows and forget the open scanner window open scanner from DPSS click on scan and be surprised when it ends up in ArcFax -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 23:45:53 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053556872:10:14329:96".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:45:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053556872:10:14329:96; Wed, 21 May 2003 22:41:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ak1014864; 21 May 2003 22:40 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Ic9g-00082v-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:33:52 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LMXmh14987 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:33:48 +0100 Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (smtp-2b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.211]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LMXkS14979 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:33:47 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-75-75.ipn4.paradise.net.nz [203.79.75.75]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C7E79EC83 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:33:37 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:34:15 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Lets say you have TWAIN 2, then the name of the preview used when you're > in grey scale mode is "GreyPreview". You go to the user defined scan > menu, and use load to load "GreyPreview", you change the parameters as > you wish, e.g. different area or different resolution. Back to the user > scan menu and use 'save as' using the name "GreyPreview". > So just as with any other user scan you've changed the parameters for > this one. The preview still doesn't come up in the TWAIN/OpticPro scanning dialogue box. I want to preview a reduced area so I chang parameters to: X 0 Y 0 W 210 H 70 50dpi col8bpp Save new 'PreviewSpecs' Set the new button 'PreviewSpecs' Load 'PreviewSpecs' 1. Preview button - loads A4 image into TWAIN, 32sec [via parallel port, 'Velocity 2'] 2. PreviewSpecs button - the scan appears in PDesk, closes the TWAIN dbox. Here's the thing. How can I preview the 210x70 image in TWAIN? I want a quick preview of a reduced area in TWAIN and from there alter some of the settings for the actual scan. Brian -- B r i a n A d a m N E W Z E A L A N D -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 21 23:55:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053557297:20:10022:67".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:55:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053557297:20:10022:67; Wed, 21 May 2003 22:48:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2109773; 21 May 2003 22:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Ic81-0001bk-00; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:32:09 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4LMVHN14487 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:31:17 +0100 Received: from protov.plain.co.nz (protov.plain.co.nz [202.36.174.23]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4LMVFG14481 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 23:31:16 +0100 Received: from paynter.cyberxpress.co.nz (ppp65160.cyberxpress.co.nz [202.49.65.160]) by protov.plain.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B7463CAB8 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:28:45 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rob Hungerford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 10:11:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem Message-ID: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Have recently upgrade to 56Kmodem and now don't seem to be able to get !ArcFAX to work. (Have ver.1.19) Have tried all the drivers available without success. Any ideas. Also upgrade to Risc OS 4 atthe same time. Modem is Dynalink 56K V.90 -- --------------------------------------------------------- Rob Hungerford Christchurch New Zealand -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 02:15:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053565727:10:01869:132".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:15:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053565727:10:01869:132; Thu, 22 May 2003 01:08:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002849; 22 May 2003 1:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IeYY-0003vF-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:07:42 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M17Ha06216 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:07:17 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M17HY06212 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:07:17 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IeY8-000Dba-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:07:16 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:05:54 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview References: <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Save new 'PreviewSpecs' Where does that name come from? When you click on the Preview button, one of a number of user defined scans with *special* names is executed. Which one depends on what mode the main scan window is in. Typically these scans are for black/white, grey and colour, and possibly for combinations of these with transparency. You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview window. Of course one work around is to go back to the TWAIN 1 way of working where the scanning application is used to view the preview - DPSS may be better than PD2 here. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 02:15:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053565892:10:08983:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:15:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053565892:10:08983:85; Thu, 22 May 2003 01:11:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1009371; 22 May 2003 1:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IebS-0004Qx-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:10:42 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M1Ae406544 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:10:40 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M1Adc06541 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:10:39 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19IebP-0000L0-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:09:31 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem References: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Have recently upgrade to 56Kmodem and now don't seem to be able to get >!ArcFAX to work. (Have ver.1.19) Have tried all the drivers available >without success. Take a scientific approach - what fax classes does your modem support? If it doesn't support Class 2, no point trying the Class 2 driver etc. Usually the makers tell fibs on the box though. The Class1VA modem driver should work with most modern modems. What if it doesn't... Open the debug window and have a look at what is going on. Now the debug window only records stuff when open, so open it, and then try activiating the modem with an (adjust?) click on the icon bar. (see the manual for how to open the debug window and activate the modem). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 02:35:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053566989:10:20316:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:35:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053566989:10:20316:63; Thu, 22 May 2003 01:29:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109640; 22 May 2003 1:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Iet4-0003q2-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:28:54 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M1SgK08635 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:28:42 +0100 Received: from snowy.kiwilink.co.nz (snowy.kiwilink.co.nz [202.27.215.2]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M1SUx08619 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:28:41 +0100 Received: from rpc.OFFICE (ip219-88-211-20.kc.net.nz [219.88.211.20]) by snowy.kiwilink.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id D56FA17258F for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 13:30:02 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tim King To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:07:41 +1200 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem Message-ID: <4bf6570874tim@de-sig.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> References: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz>, Rob Hungerford wrote: > Have recently upgrade to 56Kmodem and now don't seem to be able to get > !ArcFAX to work. (Have ver.1.19) Have tried all the drivers available > without success. > Any ideas. Telephone systems in different countries sometimes need different settings. I think you guys down in the Mainland have the same 1 as us up in Auck though... I've got the same setup (Dynalink 56K V.90, RO4, RPC) here, with pretty stable results in most cases using the Class1 driver. However, I think I've fiddled with it a bit. I'll send it to you to see if it helps. Tim -- Tim King... de-Sign. +64 9 478.3114 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:14:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053595916:21:27774:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:14:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053595916:21:27774:51; Thu, 22 May 2003 09:31:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2100079; 22 May 2003 9:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ImFT-0007Kt-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:20:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M9JTw20122 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:19:29 +0100 Received: from desire.actrix.co.nz (desire.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.164]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M9JQE20105 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:19:27 +0100 Received: from .actrix.gen.nz (ak-d142.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.142]) by desire.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id B347615A31 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:53:53 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:14:27 +1300 From: David Love To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanning with DpingScan ... Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >At all times I have !ArcFax loaded onto the iconbar. When scanning with > >!DPingScan, the Preview is OK but often when then selecting an area and > >scanning, the result is that !ArcFax is initiated. > > > > Initiated meaning what? Sorry, I should have been clearer. When scanning the image does not appear on screen but !ArcFax opens with the dialogue box asking for a fax number and telling me that it is Fax No n > > >Can anyone tell me why this is so? And, no I do not click on the Fax > >button > > Wouldn't make any difference. > > A scan should only end up in the program the scanner driver is launched > from. Yes, I agree. That is why I am puzzled. The scan is launched from !DPingScan but does not appear in that program. > However I can see a snag, something like > > open scanner from ArcFax Never done it. > open other windows and forget the open scanner window Nope > open scanner from DPSS What is DPSS > click on scan and be surprised when it ends up in ArcFax Nope David -- David Love The greatest fault is to be conscious of none. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:14:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053600528:20:08536:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:14:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053600528:20:08536:49; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:48:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2117384; 22 May 2003 10:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19InM9-0003XS-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:31:29 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MAVQS11722 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:31:26 +0100 Received: from protov.plain.co.nz (protov.plain.co.nz [202.36.174.23]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MAVNK11707 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:31:23 +0100 Received: from paynter.cyberxpress.co.nz (ppp65134.cyberxpress.co.nz [202.49.65.134]) by protov.plain.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 67A033C9CE for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 22:31:16 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rob Hungerford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:30:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> <4bf6570874tim@de-sig.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="4bf6cc2998CXrY9lwLsxukE6FEL33Cc1" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist This is a MIME encapsulated message. --4bf6cc2998CXrY9lwLsxukE6FEL33Cc1 Content-Type: text/plain On 22 May, David Pilling wrote: > >Telephone systems in different countries sometimes need different > >settings. I think you guys down in the Mainland have the same 1 as us > >up in Auck though... Am using 1VA driver (Modem suppossed to be Class 2, but this definitely doesn't work) > Fair comment, we don't know from the original email how things fail - do > you hear the modem dial? Yes > does the other end answer? Yes > Have you got the right number (being cruel now)? Yes!!! 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Thu, 22 May 2003 14:14:58 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053568184:10:05296:102; Thu, 22 May 2003 01:49:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101378; 22 May 2003 1:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IfC4-0007wL-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:48:32 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M1mS411116 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:48:28 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M1mST11113 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:48:28 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IfBz-000F3O-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 02:48:27 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 02:47:24 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem References: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> <4bf6570874tim@de-sig.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf6570874tim@de-sig.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Telephone systems in different countries sometimes need different >settings. I think you guys down in the Mainland have the same 1 as us >up in Auck though... Fair comment, we don't know from the original email how things fail - do you hear the modem dial? does the other end answer? Have you got the right number (being cruel now)? Loads of possibilities... Often modems have AT commands (secret ones) that allow them to be tuned to a particular country, I suppose if e.g. you buy a modem in Japan and plug it in, in the UK you're likely to be tripped up by that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:15:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053599974:10:00828:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:15:16 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053599974:10:00828:44; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:39:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id as1029095; 22 May 2003 10:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19InDl-0004T0-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:22:49 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MAM7Y08774 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:22:07 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MAM5M08762 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:22:06 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (unknown [202.0.61.172]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id B88CFAE757 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 22:21:55 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:22:38 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf689d746adamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: References: <20030521051717.CB46C1A57A5@luna.imagiware.com> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > > Save new 'PreviewSpecs' > Where does that name come from? I made it up. It's an attempt at a user-defined preview definition. I scan spectacles often, so don't need to preview the whole page. > When you click on the Preview button, one of a number of user defined > scans with *special* names is executed. Which one depends on what mode > the main scan window is in. > Typically these scans are for black/white, grey and colour, and possibly > for combinations of these with transparency. > You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, > just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview window. > Of course one work around is to go back to the TWAIN 1 way of working > where the scanning application is used to view the preview - Is mine TWAIN 1 or 2? ADFS::04.$.!Boot.Resources.!TWAIN.Sources.!OpticPro reads: TWAIN ===== for the Plustek OpticPro using the 98 chip set Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:15:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053602024:10:23988:126".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:15:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053602024:10:23988:126; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:13:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122057; 22 May 2003 11:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Imf8-0003UF-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:47:02 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M9ksR30172 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:46:54 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M9kr330165 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:46:53 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Imez-0005DE-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:46:53 +0200 Received: from [172.182.184.68] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Imey-0000i0-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:46:53 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:47:25 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: O Pro CMYK Message-ID: <989d86f64b.martin@mw-software.com> References: <000f01c31e18$89a13e00$5978bc3e@hal> In-Reply-To: <000f01c31e18$89a13e00$5978bc3e@hal> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <000f01c31e18$89a13e00$5978bc3e@hal> "Christopher Bryant" wrote: > > Martin W wrote > > > PostScript has absolutely no problem dealing with CMYK... > > The setcmykcolor operator is ... a mandatory part of PS level 2. > > Could you be kind enough to supply the syntax for this operator, please? > (Arguments and their ranges?) c m y k setcmykcolor Each of c, m, y, k are in the range 0.0 to 1.0 (although values outside this range are accepted without error, they are just clipped to this range). > > There is no point in hacking the printer rgb output, at least not if you > > meant post-processing the rgb PS output that has been generated - the > > important information is already lost at this stage. > > I'm sure you are right, though I don't know enough about it to know what > gets lost, but can't the prior information one can glean from the > definitions in CMYK windows while editing colours in OPro be put to later > use? It can, but only by OvationPro itself. OP could send CMYK colours to PostScript using the setcmykcolor operator, bypassing the printer drivers and thus generate CMYK colour information in the PS output - this is what the next version of ArtWorks will allow you to do. However, you proposed post-processing the PS file. In the PS file, you will only find RGB colour commands because the RISC OS printing interface only accepts RGB colours from applications. There is no way to find out what the original CMYK colours for these RGB colours were - the conversion CMYK->RGB is one-way only: Many different CMYK colours are mapped to one RGB colour (has to be like this because CMYK is 4-dimensional while RGB is only 3-dimensional). Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:15:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053602683:10:10199:141".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:15:22 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053602683:10:10199:141; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:24:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1118622; 22 May 2003 11:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Imf7-0005H4-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:47:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4M9ksI30167 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:46:54 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.185]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4M9krd30157 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 10:46:53 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Imey-0001Y8-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:46:52 +0200 Received: from [172.182.184.68] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Imex-0000i0-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 11:46:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 11:32:29 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] clib Message-ID: References: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> <53be4ff54b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> In-Reply-To: <53be4ff54b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <53be4ff54b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> Peter Prewett wrote: > In message you wrote: > > > In message <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> > > Peter Prewett wrote: > > > > > When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is > > > out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. > > > > > > I have the latest version of CLIB 5.45. > > > > > > What have I done wrong:-( > > > > At a guess you've installed the 32 bit CLib into your original copy of > > !System rather than upgrade !System itself. That's an OK way of doing it > > except that CLib 5.45 won't be installed until a program requiring it > > loads it. OP loads it whereas TransIMP doesn't. > > > > Castle's version of !System runs 32bit versions of CLIB, FPEmulator, > > CallASWI at boot time. > > > > So you have a choice. Update your !System or change TransIMP's run file to > > run the new CLIB. > > > Thanks for the info. > > Now life is getting complicated, this is now getting past the point when > a straight user (non techie) can understand and beyond them to sort the > problem out even if they knew the answer above, or had access to the > internet. > Or is just me reading to much into it:-( Yes, I think so. This is not a user issue, it is a programmer issue. If the above is correct, then TransImp is at fault. It should have the magic RMEnsures in its !Run file if it requires the new CLib. Whether the CLib is loaded at boot time or by the first application requiring it is not substantial. Both alternatives work provided that all applications follow the guidelines and have the correct RMEnsures in their !Run files. > If not then we then surely need a definitive version of System that has > all these problems sorted out instead of bits here and their. There is an official System upgrade that installs the CLib in such a way that it is loaded during boot, but as I pointed out above, this is not really necessary. What it does, however, is prevent things from going wrong when you run an application without a proper RMEnsure in the !Run file or (even worse!) with an incorrect RMEnsure that could otherwise crash the system. There can never be a definitive version of System because several applications install specific new modules into System, so every user has his/her own system setup depending on the installed applications. > I believe my System has lots modules that are not needed, left over or > just out of date. Could be. Not needed and left over modules do not cause any harm, apart from consuming disc space. The size of modules is tiny compared to the size of hard discs nowadays. Out of date modules will be detected by applications starting up and they will tell you which newer versions they need, so this is not a problem either. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 14:54:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053611228:20:06607:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:54:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053611228:20:06607:41; Thu, 22 May 2003 13:47:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ae2102758; 22 May 2003 13:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IqJj-0006GZ-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:41:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MDeNR14034 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:40:23 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MDeMm14025 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:40:22 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IqIv-000B2E-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:40:21 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:38:51 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] clib References: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> In-Reply-To: <4313e8f44b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >When trying to load TransiIMP before Ovation an error message 'CLIB is >out of date' if I load Ovation first and then quit and reload it is OK. Martin has pointed out that sloppy programming is the problem, TransIMP should RMEnsure the right version of the C library. What is the point of loading TransIMP before OP? If you double click TransIMP (or call it from a command file) it will run for about 2 seconds and then quit. I guess you may want to set up some paths... but you could boot it to do that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 16:25:08 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053617003:20:19259:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:25:08 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053617003:20:19259:53; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:23:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ah2101197; 22 May 2003 15:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IqSn-0005gd-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:50:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MDoUU17207 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:50:30 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MDoTR17204 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:50:29 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IqSj-0002ff-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 14:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:49:11 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !ArcFAX problem References: <4bf688d5f2paynter@ch.cyberxpress.co.nz> <4bf6570874tim@de-sig.co.nz> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have attached both a receive and transmit Dbug files. Good news is that most stuff is correct (you're dialling another fax machine (ho ho)), bad news is that things are going wrong at a low level, some way into the fax protocol. What I'd like is another debug of a transmit attempt (by private email), but this time making use of the debug spool facility - menu over the debug window, open spool, send fax, close spool... It looks like the modem is not just returning the string CONNECT, but adding something to it - something invisible on the debug screen. Seems that CONNECT comes back but the ArcFax driver doesn't see it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 16:55:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053618534:10:03002:145".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:55:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053618534:10:03002:145; Thu, 22 May 2003 15:48:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005398; 22 May 2003 15:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IsG3-0004F3-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:45:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MFiaC25955 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:44:36 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MFiYg25948 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:44:34 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19IsF7-0004sV-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 16:43:29 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview References: <20030521051717.CB46C1A57A5@luna.imagiware.com> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf689d746adamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf689d746adamlists@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Is mine TWAIN 1 or 2? If it has a preview pane on the right of the window where you set the scanning values it is TWAIN 2. Also T2 has a 32 page manual. T2 has TWAIN 2 written on the discs. Info box gives 2.XX as the version number. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 17:25:11 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053620531:20:06225:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 17:25:11 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053620531:20:06225:42; Thu, 22 May 2003 16:22:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2114635; 22 May 2003 16:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Isig-00021y-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 17:15:06 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MGEwE05027 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 17:14:58 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MGEw105022 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 17:14:58 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19IsiX-0001yW-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 17:14:57 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:13:21 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Scanning with DpingScan ... References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Sorry, I should have been clearer. When scanning the image does not >appear on screen but !ArcFax opens with the dialogue box asking for a >fax number and telling me that it is Fax No n >Yes, I agree. That is why I am puzzled. The scan is launched from >!DPingScan but does not appear in that program. I've tried this and it won't go wrong for me. There's obviously scope for the TWAIN manager getting confused. But thinking about it all sorts of nastiness would take place. Hmm. Oh how do you launch TWAIN? If you're using a keypress, could be ArcFax is grabbing it rather than DPSS. > What is DPSS Just DPlingScan -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 19:44:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053628773:20:19625:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:44:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053628773:20:19625:70; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:39:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id as2018978; 22 May 2003 18:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IuFN-0006yA-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:52:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MHqIu32531 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:52:18 +0100 Received: from einsteinium.btinternet.com (einsteinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.147]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MHqHr32521 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:52:17 +0100 Received: from host217-36-15-37.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.36.15.37] helo=acornrpc) by einsteinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19IuEW-0002B2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:52:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:48:31 +0100 From: Brian Howlett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.36) POPstar/2.05 X-Computer: Acorn RISC PC SA-110 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id h4MHqHr32525 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 21 May, Philip Ludlam wrote: [snip] > > Ok, I've got it now. > > To !SparkFS.!Run add the lines: > | > | Map Zips from &ddc to &a91 (for Select3) > SparkFSMapFiletype 0x4 0xa91 > Set Alias$@RunType_A91 SparkFSFiler_OpenDir %%*0 > > To !SparkFS.!Boot add the line: > Set Alias$@RunType_A91 Run .!Run %%*0 > > And to !SparkFS.Config.AtExit add the line: > Set Alias$@RunType_A91 Run .!Run %*0 > > It doesn't matter where you add the lines for the last two files, but > I would suggest adding the four lines to the !Run file just after the > ArcFS mapping (near the end of the file). > OK. I've followed this to the letter, and it doesn't work for me. I get SparkFS on the iconbar when double-clicking an &A91 .zip file, but the files themselves won't open. If I then double-click on an &A91 file I get the following error message: 22 May 18:24:00 100 ***Error*** 22 May 18:24:00 100 Title : Error from Filer 22 May 18:24:00 100 Task : Filer 22 May 18:24:00 100 Message : Error when reading SparkFS#IDEFS##Barracuda.$.NetUtils.Downloads.AWModules.jpgo112:$ - Bad archive The actual file is fine - it opens if I drag it to SparkPlug. Worse is the fact that after making these changes SparkFS will not open normal &DDC Archive files either. It no longer works when backing out the changes either. Have I missed something? -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------- My net income doesn't cover my gross habits... -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 19:54:25 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053629152:10:01914:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:54:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053629152:10:01914:77; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:45:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1001864; 22 May 2003 18:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Iv06-00085A-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:41:14 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MIZio11398 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:35:44 +0100 Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MIZV911346 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:35:39 +0100 Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.211]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030522183528.GASV9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:35:28 +0100 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF472C9B6 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:32:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 22 May 2003 19:32:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:32:21 +0100 From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.36) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by svr1.spellings.net id h4MIZh911392 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 22 May, in message Brian Howlett wrote: >On 21 May, Philip Ludlam wrote: [snip: get SparkFS to handle Zips (now with the filetype &a91)] >OK. I've followed this to the letter, and it doesn't work for me. I get >SparkFS on the iconbar when double-clicking an &A91 .zip file, but the >files themselves won't open. If I then double-click on an &A91 file I >get the following error message: > >22 May 18:24:00 100 ***Error*** >22 May 18:24:00 100 Title : Error from Filer >22 May 18:24:00 100 Task : Filer >22 May 18:24:00 100 Message : Error when reading >SparkFS#IDEFS##Barracuda.$.NetUtils.Downloads.AWModules.jpgo112:$ - >Bad archive > >The actual file is fine - it opens if I drag it to SparkPlug. Worse is >the fact that after making these changes SparkFS will not open normal >&DDC Archive files either. It no longer works when backing out the >changes either. > >Have I missed something? I suppose so. I followed my instructions and I don't have any problems. Did you remove anything from those files? Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 20:14:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053630638:10:16299:76".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:14:37 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053630638:10:16299:76; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:10:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1016862; 22 May 2003 19:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IugL-0004bW-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:20:49 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MIKh007935 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:20:43 +0100 Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MIKhi07929 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:20:43 +0100 Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h4MIKeCb014059 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:20:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:20:24 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz><4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz>, brian wrote: > Is there a way to mess with the !TWAIN.Sources.!OpticPro.UK.Config file > to cut down the preview area? Please bear in mind that 'previews' are > only useful to me when they appear in the TWAIN window, so I can then > define the scan area. Surely 'preview' needs to be a full length scan by definition, so that you can then set the boundaries for a hi-res scan. Why not do a Preview scan, set the boundaries for your short scan - but with a low resolution for speed, and then save it with a meaningful name. You can them use this as your short 'preview'. Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 20:44:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053632432:20:27233:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:44:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053632432:20:27233:39; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:40:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2129927; 22 May 2003 19:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IvcI-0000d5-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:20:42 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MJJsl21113 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:19:54 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MJJrY21108 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:19:53 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19IvbV-00048m-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:19:53 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:18:39 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Why not do a Preview scan, set the boundaries for your short scan - but >with a low resolution for speed, and then save it with a meaningful name. >You can them use this as your short 'preview'. Yes but it won't end up in the preview pane of the TWAIN driver, and so you'd not be able to use the brightness controls in the driver to tweek the final scan. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 20:44:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053632568:20:00269:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:44:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053632568:20:00269:50; Thu, 22 May 2003 19:42:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2028990; 22 May 2003 19:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IuM8-0000O2-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:59:56 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MHxq302346 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:59:52 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (smtp-1b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.210]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MHxoQ02335 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 18:59:50 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-73-18.ipn2.paradise.net.nz [203.79.73.18]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 60D4F82E35 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 05:59:41 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 05:57:28 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz><4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > Previews are just user defined scans, and like any other user scan can > be redefined. In article , David Pilling wrote: > You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, > just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview window. I'm still grappling with this apparent contradiction. Is there a way to mess with the !TWAIN.Sources.!OpticPro.UK.Config file to cut down the preview area? Please bear in mind that 'previews' are only useful to me when they appear in the TWAIN window, so I can then define the scan area. Brian -- B r i a n A d a m Auckland NEW ZEALAND -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 21:54:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053636778:10:23106:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 21:54:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053636778:10:23106:52; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:52:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1022815; 22 May 2003 20:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Ix1X-0001Dm-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 21:50:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MKo8312455 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 21:50:08 +0100 Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MKo7312450 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 21:50:07 +0100 Received: from eyewear.paradise.net.nz (203-79-79-187.ipn8.paradise.net.nz [203.79.79.187]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 642D5AE83E for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:49:52 +1200 (NZST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: brian To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:50:06 +1200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf6c3496badamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz><4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bf6b594c9ray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > Surely 'preview' needs to be a full length scan by definition, so that > you can then set the boundaries for a hi-res scan. Preview need only apply to an area close to the size of the intending scan. I'm asking whether I may define a smaller preview, as it'd be faster. > Why not do a Preview scan, set the boundaries for your short scan - but > with a low resolution for speed, and then save it with a meaningful name. > You can them use this as your short 'preview'. And have it appear in the TWAIN dbox? Too clumsy. I'd need to replace the sprite 'OpticPro' in ScrapDir.TWAIN each time. Brian -- Auckland NEW ZEALAND www.adam.co.nz -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 22 23:14:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053641324:10:18795:148".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 23:14:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053641324:10:18795:148; Thu, 22 May 2003 22:08:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1019601; 22 May 2003 22:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19IyAm-0001UK-00; Thu, 22 May 2003 23:04:28 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4MM3s631831 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 22 May 2003 23:03:54 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4MM3sB31827 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 23:03:54 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19IyAE-000505-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 22 May 2003 23:03:54 +0100 Message-ID: <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:02:17 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, >> just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview window. >I'm still grappling with this apparent contradiction. What contradiction? If you redefine GreyPreview it will appear in the preview window and will be of whatever size you set it to. That applies to any of the other preview scans. It does not apply to any name you make up. >Is there a way to mess with the !TWAIN.Sources.!OpticPro.UK.Config file to >cut down the preview area? Yes, if you are happier editing numbers in a text file, go ahead. But in this instance editing the config file just gives the same result as using the graphical interface in the way I described. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 13:57:51 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053674101:20:15885:116".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:57:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053674101:20:15885:116; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:15:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115583; 23 May 2003 7:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19J6ke-0008DG-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:14:04 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4N7DVG06479 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:13:31 +0100 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4N7DUh06475 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:13:31 +0100 Received: from host217-36-15-37.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.36.15.37] helo=acornrpc) by rhenium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19J6k5-0002C4-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:13:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:11:52 +0100 From: Brian Howlett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: <2736fcf64b.Brian@btinternet.com> References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.36) POPstar/2.05 X-Computer: Acorn RISC PC SA-110 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 22 May, Philip Ludlam wrote: > On 22 May, in message > Brian Howlett wrote: [snip] >> >> Have I missed something? > > I suppose so. I followed my instructions and I don't have any > problems. > > Did you remove anything from those files? > No. -- Brian Howlett ---------------------------------------------------- What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care... -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 14:37:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053695961:10:01267:104".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:37:30 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053695961:10:01267:104; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:19:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id af1113665; 23 May 2003 13:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JCHg-0001uZ-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:08:32 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4ND7xC15859 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:07:59 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4ND7wq15855 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:07:58 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19JCH8-0006ic-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:07:58 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 14:06:45 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> <2736fcf64b.Brian@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <2736fcf64b.Brian@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> Brian Howlett wrote: >> Did you remove anything from those files? I'd be inclined to scrap the damaged SparkFS I had, and replace with my back up copy and then perhaps try the modifications again. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 19:17:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053713674:10:08203:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:17:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053713674:10:08203:74; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:14:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1111684; 23 May 2003 18:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JH0L-0000U5-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NIA1612706 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:01 +0100 Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NIA0G12700 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:10:01 +0100 Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h4NIA0Cb009668 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:10:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:08:32 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Message-ID: <4bf73854a7ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > >> You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, > >> just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview > >> window. > >I'm still grappling with this apparent contradiction. > What contradiction? If you redefine GreyPreview it will appear in the > preview window and will be of whatever size you set it to. That applies > to any of the other preview scans. > It does not apply to any name you make up. My scan list contains preview names with a T suffix - ie GreyPreviewT. What are they, are what does the T mean? I haven't added them, so they must be original. Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 19:46:49 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053715026:20:18088:100".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:46:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053715026:20:18088:100; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:37:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2106015; 23 May 2003 18:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JHO5-0007xd-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:35:29 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NIZNl18258 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:35:23 +0100 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net (ctb-mesg1.saix.net [196.25.240.73]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NIZMP18254 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:35:22 +0100 Received: from tolkien (bnb54-01-p380.nt.saix.net [155.239.181.124]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DA807541B for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:35:15 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <00aa01c32159$e30c83c0$0100a8c0@tolkien> From: "Samuel Kock" To: References: <4bf5c40cdfadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5e41e9fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf5f170ccray@raydawson.com> <4bf603da4eadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6175bc8Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4Zp2nVBz94y+Ew3I@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf648fc49adamlists@paradise.net.nz> <4bf6b37b7fadamlists@paradise.net.nz> <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bf73854a7ray@raydawson.com> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 20:33:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Disposition-Notification-To: "Samuel Kock" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Ray Dawson wrote: > My scan list contains preview names with a T suffix - ie GreyPreviewT. > What are they, are what does the T mean? I haven't added them, so they > must be original. They are normally for transparenct adaptors. Samuel Kock -- Samuel Kock Pretoria, South Africa Tweety of Borg: "Puddy tats are iwelevant." -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 19:46:51 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053715242:10:27128:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:46:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053715242:10:27128:43; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:40:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129521; 23 May 2003 18:40 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JHS9-0005Gd-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:39:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NIdcr19254 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:39:38 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NIdcE19251 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:39:38 +0100 Received: from spcap.demon.co.uk ([62.49.28.232] helo=riscpc.local.net) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19JHS6-0001Ll-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:39:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:38:48 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Parkin Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Scanning Preview To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4bf73854a7ray@raydawson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Fri 23 May, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article <+XOXU0IpjUz+Ew+o@pilling.demon.co.uk>, > David Pilling wrote: > > >> You can't make any old user defined scan appear in the TWAIN window, > > >> just one of the special ones executed via clicking the preview > > >> window. > > >I'm still grappling with this apparent contradiction. > > > What contradiction? If you redefine GreyPreview it will appear in the > > preview window and will be of whatever size you set it to. That applies > > to any of the other preview scans. > > > It does not apply to any name you make up. > > My scan list contains preview names with a T suffix - ie GreyPreviewT. > What are they, are what does the T mean? I haven't added them, so they > must be original. > > Ray D > They're for a scanner equipped with a (T)ransparency adaptor Stephen -- Stephen Parkin -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 19:56:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053715857:10:16406:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:56:52 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053715857:10:16406:66; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:50:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101388; 23 May 2003 18:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JHap-0007uA-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:48:39 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NImYi21401 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:48:34 +0100 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NImXl21396 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:48:33 +0100 Received: from host217-36-15-37.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.36.15.37] helo=acornrpc) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19JHai-0007MF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:48:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:46:37 +0100 From: Brian Howlett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Minor issue with Select3 Message-ID: <3bd13bf74b.Brian@btinternet.com> References: <9o9nrsBh2py+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> <813ee1f54b.philip@philipnet.com> <2736fcf64b.Brian@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: The Terry Wogan Home for the Bewildered User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.36) POPstar/2.05 X-Computer: Acorn RISC PC SA-110 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 23 May, David Pilling wrote: [snip] > > I'd be inclined to scrap the damaged SparkFS I had, and replace with > my back up copy What's a back up? ;-) > and then perhaps try the modifications again. > I've re-installed from my original 1.36 floppy and applied the upgrades to 1.39 and it's now working. I think I'll leave well enough alone for now as far as the changes are concerned. -- Brian Howlett ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I took a course in speed waiting. Now I can wait an hour in just ten minutes... -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 21:16:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053720862:20:17775:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:16:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053720862:20:17775:77; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:14:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116827; 23 May 2003 20:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JIuu-0003vP-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:13:28 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NKCrn06151 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:12:53 +0100 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NKCrS06144 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:12:53 +0100 Received: from modem-886.kook.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.171.118] helo=stevens) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19JIuJ-0004E9-TD for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:12:52 +0100 Message-ID: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> From: "Ralph Stevens" To: Subject: [softwarelist] MakeModes Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 21:18:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I downloaded the 26/32 bit version of MakeModes from David's web site recently. Clicking on the download button produced a window with what appeared to be an Edit file with lots of top-bit set characters. I have encountered this before when downloading Draw files from the web and, if memory serves, I sorted it out by downloading the text and changing the file-type to Draw. After downloading as text I changed the file-type to Absolute but it wouldn't run on the Iyonix. Can someone tell me the correct procedure for downloading this program? Also, could I stretch the list members patience a little more and ask if anyone knows where to find the original manual by Acorn? This is refered to in "Risc PC Monitor Definition Files Explained" but I haven't been able to locate it on the web anywhere. Thanks in advance, Ralph -- Ralph Stevens ralph_valmai@stevens63.fsnet.co.uk R.N.Stevens@qmul.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri May 23 21:56:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053723353:10:18580:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:56:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053723353:10:18580:63; Fri, 23 May 2003 20:55:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1100079; 23 May 2003 20:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JJZG-00033q-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:55:10 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4NKt4h14963 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:55:04 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NKt3Q14959 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:55:03 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19JJZ9-00035x-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:55:03 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 21:53:27 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] MakeModes References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> In-Reply-To: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I downloaded the 26/32 bit version of MakeModes from David's web Oh no you didn't... >site recently. Clicking on the download button produced a window >with what appeared to be an Edit file with lots of top-bit set >characters. I have encountered this before when downloading Draw >files from the web and, if memory serves, I sorted it out by >downloading the text and changing the file-type to Draw. If your browser confuses an archive with a file type it thinks it can display. Usually there is a way to force download to file (holding down a key whilst clicking on the link). This is the best way to go because some corruption of data can occur if you load into the browser and then save out. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat May 24 13:51:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1053757952:10:08489:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 13:51:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1053757952:10:08489:60; Sat, 24 May 2003 06:32:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1116941; 24 May 2003 6:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JSZR-0005lw-00; Sat, 24 May 2003 07:31:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4O6VO901266 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 24 May 2003 07:31:24 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4O6VNc01256 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 07:31:23 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19JSYs-0007le-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 24 May 2003 07:31:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 01:40:42 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] MakeModes Message-ID: <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I downloaded the 26/32 bit version of MakeModes from David's web > Oh no you didn't... > >site recently. Clicking on the download button produced a window > >with what appeared to be an Edit file with lots of top-bit set > >characters. I have encountered this before when downloading Draw > >files from the web and, if memory serves, I sorted it out by > >downloading the text and changing the file-type to Draw. > If your browser confuses an archive with a file type it thinks it can > display. Usually there is a way to force download to file (holding down > a key whilst clicking on the link). This is the best way to go because > some corruption of data can occur if you load into the browser and then > save out. With both Fresco and Oregano I've found that saving out has worked fine. But it's important to do a "save source" or equivalent so that every byte that arrived at the browser is saved, rather than just saving as text, say. Then I settype the file as Archive and double-click on it and it's always been fine. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed May 28 01:58:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054083366:20:09674:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:58:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054083366:20:09674:61; Wed, 28 May 2003 00:56:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2125381; 28 May 2003 0:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KpEI-0003Zl-00; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:55:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4S0tES13440 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:55:14 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4S0tEc13437 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:55:14 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19KpDl-0007PZ-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 28 May 2003 01:55:13 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:54:00 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] OvHTML (free HTML filter) References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist OvHTML (http://www.bulldog.u-net.com/ovationpro/download/ovhtml03.zip) version 0.31 (19 Apr 2003); size 515k; author Rick Murray This software is designed to import HTML files into Ovation Pro acting as a filter. It attempts a reasonable reproduction of HTML import, including styles (bold, underline, etc), alignment (left, centre, right), headings, code types, ordered/un-ordered lists, preformatted text, etc... AND IMAGES! There are help and example files provided. Note that this program is 26-bit only. Thanks to Richard Murray (remember Frobnicate) and Chris Johnson (for running the OP resource web site). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 29 13:28:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054194784:20:08995:90".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:28:00 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054194784:20:08995:90; Thu, 29 May 2003 07:53:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2122265; 29 May 2003 7:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LIDF-0001V8-00; Thu, 29 May 2003 08:52:37 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4T7q7l08509 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 29 May 2003 08:52:07 +0100 Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4T7q5K08501 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 08:52:05 +0100 Received: from modem-792.gacked.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.243.24] helo=stevens) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 19LICi-0000D3-Dn for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 29 May 2003 08:52:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c325b9$bc8dc150$18f3193e@stevens> From: "Ralph Stevens" To: References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] MakeModes Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 21:12:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy C B Nicoll" To: Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [softwarelist] MakeModes > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >I downloaded the 26/32 bit version of MakeModes from David's web > > > Oh no you didn't... > > > >site recently. Clicking on the download button produced a window > > >with what appeared to be an Edit file with lots of top-bit set > > >characters. I have encountered this before when downloading Draw > > >files from the web and, if memory serves, I sorted it out by > > >downloading the text and changing the file-type to Draw. > > > If your browser confuses an archive with a file type it thinks it can > > display. Usually there is a way to force download to file (holding down > > a key whilst clicking on the link). This is the best way to go because > > some corruption of data can occur if you load into the browser and then > > save out. > > With both Fresco and Oregano I've found that saving out has worked fine. > But it's important to do a "save source" or equivalent so that every byte > that arrived at the browser is saved, rather than just saving as text, > say. Then I settype the file as Archive and double-click on it and it's > always been fine. > I'm back on this tack again after a holiday break. Thanks to Dave Symes for sending me the manual for !MakeModes by e-mail, and to those who commented. I realise now that I should have typed the downloaded file as 'archive' not 'absolute' - of course, it would be compressed wouldn't it? So, having read the comments in this thread, I looked for the downloaded file and realised that I had (in frustration no doubt) deleted it. No, problem, I thought, all I have to do is to re-visit the site and download again. But, blow me, I could'nt find the site for the life of me. There were no links to the file in http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk (not, at least, that I could find). I realised that I had originally been looking in http://www.piling.demon.co.uk, but this site now seems inaccessible. Most of the software on the former site is on the latter, but *not* !MakeModes. Woe! Can anyone help? Ralph > -- Ralph Stevens ralph_valmai@stevens63.fsnet.co.uk R.N.Stevens@qmul.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 29 13:28:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054202581:10:16881:67".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:28:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054202581:10:16881:67; Thu, 29 May 2003 10:03:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1015078; 29 May 2003 10:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LK7c-00072T-00; Thu, 29 May 2003 10:54:56 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4T9sMe14685 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 29 May 2003 10:54:22 +0100 Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4T9sLK14681 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 10:54:21 +0100 Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust16.tnt38.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.170.16] with SMTP for id h4T9sInB007971 (8.12.9/2.04); Thu, 29 May 2003 11:54:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <005201c325c8$ab421ef0$74a474d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvHTML (free HTML filter) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:56:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:54 AM, David Pilling wrote: > OvHTML (http://www.bulldog.u-net.com/ovationpro/download/ovhtml03.zip) > > version 0.31 (19 Apr 2003); size 515k; author Rick Murray > This software is designed to import HTML files into Ovation Pro acting > as a filter. > > It attempts a reasonable reproduction of HTML import, including styles > (bold, underline, etc), alignment (left, centre, right), headings, > code types, ordered/un-ordered lists, preformatted text, etc... AND > IMAGES! There are help and example files provided. > > Note that this program is 26-bit only. I have downloaded this program and I think it is a real nice (and impressive) import filter. It looks and feels 'good' ! At first sight, I miss 'Styles' in the Ovation doc. Maybe it has to be done with 'Effects'. Probably not important, for editing isn't the main purpose. I hope more/many people will give it a try. You write '26 bit'. Does that mean it can't be used on the IYONIX? Or can it -via Aemulor-? That is OP 32 bit, using a 26 bit filter? Since you have sent this mail to the list and Rick Muray writes in his help, that he can't be easily contacted, does that 'mean' that you also collect bug reports for him ? Anyway, thanks to Rick Murray (and you and Chris Johnson) Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 29 14:57:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054212582:20:17987:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 14:57:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054212582:20:17987:40; Thu, 29 May 2003 12:49:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118700; 29 May 2003 12:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LMpN-00047f-00; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:48:17 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4TClbO20447 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:47:37 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4TClZ020432 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:47:35 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 19LMoh-0002BL-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 29 May 2003 13:47:35 +0100 Message-ID: <8hq3ZhChEg1+EwsW@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:46:25 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] MakeModes References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <000001c325b9$bc8dc150$18f3193e@stevens> In-Reply-To: <000001c325b9$bc8dc150$18f3193e@stevens> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >re-visit the site and download again. But, blow me, I could'nt >find the site for the life of me. There were no links to the >file in http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk (not, at least, that I My original point was that this file has never been on any of my web sites. A quick look at Google reveals http://www.mirror.ac.uk/collections/hensa-micros/local/riscos/misc/makemo des.arc%5Bpeek%5D as it's home. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu May 29 15:18:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054217721:20:06718:38".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 15:18:21 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054217721:20:06718:38; Thu, 29 May 2003 14:15:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id an2127339; 29 May 2003 14:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LO2K-0005x1-00; Thu, 29 May 2003 15:05:44 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4TE4qx14546 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 29 May 2003 15:04:52 +0100 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4TE4pi14540 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 15:04:52 +0100 Received: from me (ip51cc4b49.speed.planet.nl [81.204.75.73]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFN00DVMJ2WRV@smtp03.wxs.nl> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:04:09 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:04:08 +0200 From: Paul Sprangers Subject: [softwarelist] OvHTML (free HTML filter) In-reply-to: <005201c325c8$ab421ef0$74a474d5@padua> To: Ovation Pro Message-id: <4bfa38f8b2paul@delink.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Pluto/3.03h (RISC-OS/5.03) POPstar/2.04-pre2 References: <01f601c3216a$50470ef0$149e193e@stevens> <4bf75c3c2bJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <005201c325c8$ab421ef0$74a474d5@padua> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > You write '26 bit'. > Does that mean it can't be used on the IYONIX? > Or can it -via Aemulor-? > That is OP 32 bit, using a 26 bit filter? It works happily on my Iyonix, sometimes rendering even better than Oregano2 (sometimes worse too). Since Aemulor works transparently, I can't say wether this filters runs on its own. I didn't have to do anything special, though. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jun 3 19:41:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054539835:20:00296:79".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:41:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054539835:20:00296:79; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:43:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2108981; 2 Jun 2003 7:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Mjyd-00045T-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:43:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id h527giK09605 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:42:44 +0100 Received: from smtp-out7.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out7.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.10]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id h527giO09602 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:42:44 +0100 Received: from localhost ([213.48.202.127]) by smtp-out7.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:42:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Hamilton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:29:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Applet manager for OPro Message-ID: <4bfc2433a9Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> In-Reply-To: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> References: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2003 07:42:43.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D6F77A0:01C328DA] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > My Applet manager fails on the Iyonix, as it is not 32 bit. Is there a > new, 32 bit version, or should I just abandon it? I can't say I used it > much, but it was useful at times. Works with Aemulor. HTH, Ian -- Ian Hamilton (RISC PC RO4) http://www.hamiltoni.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ (Iyonix RO5) Programs compatible with RISC OS 3/4/5 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jun 3 19:42:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054479619:10:01517:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:42:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054479619:10:01517:41; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:00:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.32]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1001073; 1 Jun 2003 14:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay03.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MUJL-0001gy-00; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:59:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id h51Ewh910596 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:58:43 +0100 Received: from mxout3.netvision.net.il (mxout3.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.24]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id h51Ewgk10593 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:58:42 +0100 Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.235.58.155]) by mxout3.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HFT004DF5LK3E@mxout3.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:58:33 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:58:09 +0300 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] Applet manager for OPro To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030314 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist My Applet manager fails on the Iyonix, as it is not 32 bit. Is there a new, 32 bit version, or should I just abandon it? I can't say I used it much, but it was useful at times. Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jun 3 19:43:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054509141:10:15763:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:43:17 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054509141:10:15763:74; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:12:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1016066; 1 Jun 2003 23:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MbzT-0007ly-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:11:51 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id h51NBKD03373 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:11:20 +0100 Received: from he201war.uk.vianw.net (he201war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.149]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id h51NBJl03369 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:11:19 +0100 Received: from [195.102.200.85] (helo=bulldog.u-net.com) by he201war.uk.vianw.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 19Mbyv-0000OH-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:11:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:00:13 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Applet manager for OPro Message-ID: <4bfbf010d5chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> References: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.36) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > My Applet manager fails on the Iyonix, as it is not 32 bit. Is > there a new, 32 bit version, or should I just abandon it? I can't > say I used it much, but it was useful at times. To the best of my knowledge the original source code is not available. I am hoping to convert it by hand in the next few weeks. When I have a working app, then I will put it on to my OvPro resources site, and announce it here. -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jun 3 19:43:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054543751:10:19697:72".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:43:28 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054543751:10:19697:72; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:49:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.30]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id al1117354; 2 Jun 2003 8:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay01.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MkiE-0007l1-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:30:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id h528UQx22068 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:30:26 +0100 Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id h528UPU22061 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:30:25 +0100 Received: from netvision.net.il ([217.132.17.69]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HFU006DRIAJW1@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:30:19 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:29:55 +0300 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Applet manager for OPro In-reply-to: <4bfc2433a9Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3EDB0B03.3050103@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030314 References: <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il> <4bfc2433a9Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Ian Hamilton wrote: > In article <3EDA1481.3080404@netvision.net.il>, Michael Ben-Gershon > wrote: > >>My Applet manager fails on the Iyonix, as it is not 32 bit. Is there a >>new, 32 bit version, or should I just abandon it? I can't say I used it >>much, but it was useful at times. > > > Works with Aemulor. Thanks. I don't know why I didn't try that first! Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jun 4 14:04:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1054718862:10:10189:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:04:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1054718862:10:10189:66; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:27:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk ([212.69.217.31]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1008741; 4 Jun 2003 9:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=svr1.spellings.net) by smtp-relay02.x-mailer.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NUSj-0003sl-00; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:21:41 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) id h549KeP13689 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:20:40 +0100 Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by svr1.spellings.net (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id h549Kd913678 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:20:40 +0100 Received: from pc ([62.30.89.36]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:20:38 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by pc ([127.0.0.1] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: <3EDDBA56.9020907@graphitedesign.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:22:30 +0100 From: richard cassidy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro References: <000301c31b09$dc718a70$3300a8c0@gwen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.5.0 - Registered X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2003 09:20:38.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[901B70C0:01C32A7A] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Nick Kaijaks wrote: [snip] > 2. Print as separations (may be worth asking if your printer's prepress > solution can recombine seps to give a composite CMYK) > Sorry if this is getting off topic, however does anyone know of a decent app (Win/Mac/RISC OS) which can composite CMYK (or more) sep PS files without breaking the bank? The ones I am aware of are around the 400-500 mark and not for RISC OS. Many thanks, Richard -- Graphite Design & Presentation Design for print and internet 10 Vallis Way, Frome BA11 3BD web www.graphitedesign.net +44 (0)1373 463395 support www.graphitedesign.net/support This email is confidential and intended for the recipient only. Content may not be reproduced or distributed in any way. If you have received this in error please reply to the return address. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net