From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:34:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046521393:10:16067:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:34:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046521393:10:16067:57; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:23:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1116543; 1 Mar 2003 12:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p602-0002VX-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:21:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21CLM214526 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:21:22 GMT Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21CLLb14514 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:21:21 GMT Received: from ace ([62.30.102.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:23:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: VinceH To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:04:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OvnPro on WinME Message-ID: <4bcc58a05aextsubs@softrock.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <974746cc4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> <974746cc4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <974746cc4b.john@xl-cambridge.com>, John Pettigrew wrote: > In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > > > Are you planning to adopt the Windows style multiple > > > document windows within one application window? > > It may come to that. > I'd avoid it if I was you. Even MS Word has moved away from > that and now (since Word2000) has a separate window for each > document - although these are all loaded by a single instance > of Word. Although, oddly I think, there is still a close icon for what used to be the inner window. If you click this in your only Word document, you can close the file and leave a blank (no file) Word loaded - but click it in any secondary windows, and the window itself closes. I can see why that is - so that when you close the only (or last) document, Word is still loaded to allow you to start or open another. It just feels inconsistent. > The only modern programs that I'm aware of the still > use the single-window approach are web browsers, and they have > reinterpreted this into a tabbed window - a common toolbar at > the top (and status bar at the bottom), with each document > window in a separate tab of that main window. Some accounts packages also do this for seperate modules and entry/report screens within the package (Sales Ledger, Purchase Ledger, and so on). VinceH -- VinceH can be found in the vicinity of http://www.vinceh.com Soft Rock Software can be found around http://www.softrock.co.uk WebChange2 for RISC OS & Windows is at http://www.webchange.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:34:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046521763:10:26384:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:34:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046521763:10:26384:51; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:29:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1025889; 1 Mar 2003 12:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p66Y-0006vv-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:28:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21CSb515753 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:28:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21CSa715749 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:28:36 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=dormant) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18p66W-0006FO-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:28:36 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:27:59 GMT From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME Message-ID: <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > > Are you planning to adopt the Windows style multiple document > > windows within one application window? > > It may come to that. > > As I said, the program is going to set off close to the RISC OS version, > and move away to more standard Windows behaviour. > > For the moment I have serious issues to confront, fiddling with cosmetic > matters can wait. Although it will have to be done (as you say) to make > the program appeal to Windows users. Would they notice the difference? Might they not just like the new method? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:34:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046507243:20:27948:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:34:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046507243:20:27948:52; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:27:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027616; 1 Mar 2003 8:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p2KF-0001Sy-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:26:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h218Pnt11511 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:25:49 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h218Pmj11508 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:25:49 GMT Received: from [62.64.238.30] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18p2JN-0004Zu-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:25:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:27:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured Message-ID: <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > That should produce a working copy of OP, the rest you can throw away. > Particularly Rob Clarks Applet manager. > ("oooh just because you didn't write it...") Pleeze Mister, can I ask a question...? As I use the said Applet manager, why do I need to get rid of it. Thanks Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:34:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046508326:20:23513:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:34:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046508326:20:23513:41; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:45:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022229; 1 Mar 2003 8:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p2bU-0003ip-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:44:20 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h218iHm13568 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:44:17 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h218iHw13563 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:44:17 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.73.120]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030301084416.MTEH2341.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:44:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 08:44:11 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME Message-ID: <974746cc4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > > Are you planning to adopt the Windows style multiple document windows > > within one application window? > > It may come to that. I'd avoid it if I was you. Even MS Word has moved away from that and now (since Word2000) has a separate window for each document - although these are all loaded by a single instance of Word. The only modern programs that I'm aware of the still use the single-window approach are web browsers, and they have reinterpreted this into a tabbed window - a common toolbar at the top (and status bar at the bottom), with each document window in a separate tab of that main window. John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:34:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046521648:20:08783:152".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:34:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046521648:20:08783:152; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:27:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2102336; 1 Mar 2003 12:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p659-0003vQ-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:27:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21CR8x15548 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:27:08 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21CR8Y15542 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:27:08 GMT Received: from [62.64.209.234] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18p66k-0002Mg-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:28:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist A Printing Q. I can print out of Win OvPro to a Laser printer (HP5P) via the PC printer port okay... (There is small issue but not important ATM). Connected to the USB port is another printer (Epson Stylus Photo 915) This is set as the default printer. I want to print an OvPro doc to the USB printer. Click print. The OvPro print window presents itself. Click Print. The print job appears in the 915 printer status window for a couple of seconds, then vanishes without the document/job printing. Other apps, Word, Textpad etc etc... all print okay to the USB printer. Questions, questions... Can OvPro print to the USB port? If it already can... What am I missing? Cheers and thanks Dave S PS: Anyone thinking of getting a printer for printing photographs should consider looking at the Epson 9nn series. I've seen quite a lot of computer printer generated photos in recent years, and I have to say the output quality of the 9 series is really impressive. And I'm Mr Grumpy sod, rarely satisfied with anything. I digress, sorry. D. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:54:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046526728:20:01757:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:54:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046526728:20:01757:65; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:52:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001853; 1 Mar 2003 13:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p7P1-0004aj-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:51:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21DpeC30230 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:51:40 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21DpeO30226 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:51:40 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18p7Ot-0001qO-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:51:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:51:35 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders Message-ID: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Knowing nothing about OP's scripting, does anyone know if exists a script to traverse a document and change frame border widths ? (To set converted impdocs to "thin" borders.) -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:54:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046526860:20:05154:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:54:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046526860:20:05154:39; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:54:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003794; 1 Mar 2003 13:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p7QO-0005ml-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:53:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21Dr7730467 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:53:07 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Dr7r30464 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:53:07 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18p7QJ-00021x-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:53:07 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:51:40 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Questions, questions... >Can OvPro print to the USB port? >If it already can... What am I missing? I can't think of any reason why not. Aside from the obvious thing of USB/parallel port differences, there may be other differences e.g. all the printer preferences/settings. It might be interesting to turn on printer margins and see if anything is actually being printed. You could perhaps open the status window for the USB and observe the size of output generated. There could still be bugs in printer output, sort of test there is to try printing different things. Or select the USB printer, but use the print to file button (expanded print window) and see how big a file you can capture - compare to similar output from other programs. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 13:54:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046526489:10:27557:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:54:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046526489:10:27557:91; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:48:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1027343; 1 Mar 2003 13:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p7L8-0003hX-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:47:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21Dl7A29509 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:47:07 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Dl6729504 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:47:06 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18p7KU-0000Um-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:47:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:45:36 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >As I use the said Applet manager, why do I need to get rid of it. You don't. In fact Alex may not need to either, but reading the description of his problems I felt that things were a lot more confusing than they needed to be. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 14:14:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046527735:20:23448:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:14:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046527735:20:23448:57; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:08:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023681; 1 Mar 2003 14:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p7fH-0000Gd-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:08:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21E8Wl01056 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:32 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21E8Wf01051 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:32 GMT Received: from THOMAS ([80.0.181.39]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030301140831.QROO3191.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@THOMAS> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2dffc$08adb670$27b50050@THOMAS> From: "Norman Thomas" To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > >Questions, questions... > >Can OvPro print to the USB port? > I can't think of any reason why not. > I have had no difficulty printing via a USB port here - Athlon 1800, WinXP Home Norman Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 14:24:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046528135:20:02558:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:24:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046528135:20:02558:51; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:15:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002206; 1 Mar 2003 14:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p7lg-0000OB-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:15:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21EF9t02094 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:15:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21EF9m02091 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:15:09 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18p7lc-000M8h-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:15:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:13:39 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders References: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Knowing nothing about OP's scripting, does anyone know if exists a >script to traverse a document and change frame border widths ? Yes, No. Save as DDL, load into text editor, make change, save, reload? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 15:54:32 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046533979:20:07618:99".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:54:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046533979:20:07618:99; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:52:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007688; 1 Mar 2003 15:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9Hs-0004bg-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:52:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21FpsS19111 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:51:54 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21FprZ19108 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:51:53 GMT Received: from [62.188.108.235] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9Gu-0004Tf-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:51:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:01:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > wrote: > > I can't help but feel a right berk. > I wonder if you know where the word 'berk' comes from? Would you be > embarrassed if you knew? I am lead to believe that it is Cockney > Rhyming slang. 'Berk'ley Hunt :o))) No I didn't know - and how could I be more embarrassed than I am at the moment!? I'm content to be called that also (at the moment, anyway!). -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 16:34:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046536337:10:16153:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:34:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046536337:10:16153:44; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:32:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015788; 1 Mar 2003 16:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9tp-0008GO-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21GVbC26069 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21GVbU26066 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:37 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18p9tg-0003tJ-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:57:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME Message-ID: <4bcc6dea11Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > Would they notice the difference? Might they not just like the new > method? I dare say one can argue this umpteen ways, but it seems to me that the market for OP on windows is people who don't like the existing windows software, and (initially) people with a RO background. I'm not against standard interfaces, but jumping through hoops to make code look like another platform's standards isn't necessarily worthwhile. I doubt a lot of less-technical users *really* know or appreciate standard windows conventions; provided when they start to use an new application the way it works is adequately documented, and if it has quirks, those are explicitly described, that should be enough. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 16:34:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046536321:20:02598:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:34:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046536321:20:02598:62; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:32:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003045; 1 Mar 2003 16:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9tp-0008GP-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21GVfv26085 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21GVeO26081 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:40 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18p9tk-0003tJ-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:24:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcc7070dfJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bca94d20crayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bca94d20crayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bca94d20crayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre wrote: > (I wish I had remembered Mike Williams' point about the use of SPrint > before I started!) Or you could have printed to a postscript file and viewed it in RiScript or whatever... What would have been really useful though is to have produced the sprite version, maybe compressed it a bit if it was huge, and put it onto your website so we could see what you were getting and what was wrong with it. It's really hard to understand problems like yours otherwise. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 1 16:34:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046536321:20:02617:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:34:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046536321:20:02617:66; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:32:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003047; 1 Mar 2003 16:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18p9tp-0008GQ-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21GVdM26075 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:39 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21GVdn26072 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:31:39 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18p9ti-0003tJ-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:31:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured Message-ID: <4bcc6f404cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >As I use the said Applet manager, why do I need to get rid of it. > You don't. In fact Alex may not need to either, but reading the > description of his problems I felt that things were a lot more > confusing than they needed to be. Reading this thread I wonder if part of the problem is apps or applets "seen" when filer windows have been opened and therefore having the paths to them remembered in system variables. Then they get moved or copied around, so the system variables contain path values that no longer point to the right app, or indeed any app. Possibly the app manager involved is also storing applets names and path values based on where applets were seen when they were first defined to the applet manager, but that info won't be uptodate either. Looking at what Alex did, I'd have said that he should have shutdown & rebooted his machine at more intervals than he had, and also that every directory he opened when looking for things should have been Ctrl-clicked on (if a filer directory) or shift-clicked on (if an app/let). I'd also if I was doing this take a good look at what actually gets saved in the config manager's choices/options/whatever files and also what sort of system vars are being set as things get defined. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:13 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046758766:20:23968:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046758766:20:23968:49; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:19:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116062; 4 Mar 2003 6:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q5ky-0002JK-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:18:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h246H1v05671 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:01 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h246H1K05666 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:01 GMT Received: from [62.64.209.132] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18q5jV-000BlT-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:16:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:09:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcdc39c91dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303104255.00b355b8@mail.which.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030303104255.00b355b8@mail.which.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <5.1.1.6.0.20030303104255.00b355b8@mail.which.net>, John Waddell wrote: [Snip] > > So my question would be this... How do I set the other (Laser) as the > >default printer on the printer port, and still get the Epson to print > >throught the USB port, when the default printer always picks up the > >output. > >Cheers > >Dave S > Go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>(Double click Printers and Faxes} (I > keep a shortcut to Printers and Faxes on my desktop since I access it > regularly - To do this right click on the Printers and Faxes Icon and > the rest is self explanatory) Nothing different to what I do already. > Having double clicked on Printers and Faxes you will have a window with > all your printers showing. Just right click on the one you want as > default. Clearly you know this already or you wouldn't be printing! (I > mention it because I am often defined as an imperfect perfectionist by > SWMBO!) Nothing different. > I now enter the real of guesswork. I assume that when you CTRL-P inside > an OvPro for windows doc and set the printer from which that you would > like to print that the software will remember this printer as default. > If not, my next action would be to open the default doc, set printer > details and resave the blank open doc as your default stylesheet. Already done with bells on. > It has also struck me that you do not mention whether you have both > printers switched on when your doc print instruction goes off into the > ether. If both were switched on and you tried to print to the Epson, > does the doc come out on the Laser? Tried various combinations, including both on. Printing to USB just vanishes. > By the way I have telephoned the Epson help line in the past and found > them very helpful. Really wouldn't be any point in phoning *them* as I've pointed out over and over... All other print capable application can and do print without problems to the USB Epson. > You may well already have tried this but it might also help if you were > to disconnect your USB printer use the PC a couple of times and then > reconnect after you have switched on the printer. It might also be > worthwhile going to the Epson web site to see if there are any upgrades > to the driver for your printer. Tried that, but again everything prints... only Ovation Pro won't. Went to the site a week ago... I'm already using the latest available... Well as far as I can tell. > Autrement, je suis futu aussi! > John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046538140:20:11107:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046538140:20:11107:45; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:02:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010975; 1 Mar 2003 17:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pAN7-00038J-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:02:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21H1vh31339 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:01:57 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21H1vY31336 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:01:57 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18pAN2-0001hj-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:01:56 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:01:51 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version - GIF Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > I suspect windows metafile will have to be added. What other graphics > formats would you like. Just remembered another one; Probably impossible but what about Artworks ? -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046547478:20:00982:81".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046547478:20:00982:81; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000910; 1 Mar 2003 19:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pCnl-0007CI-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21Jb8C09615 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:37:08 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Jb7W09609 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:37:07 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.195] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pCn9-0002UF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:57:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Extensions was: Re: [softwarelist] Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcc5d750csteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002501c2df05$abe55840$caa274d5@padua> References: <002501c2df05$abe55840$caa274d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 28 Feb, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > I am not sure, that adding such a line will do the job ... > At least, the the networking program has to make use of Mimemap. > I can't speak for the IYONIX or Select above 4.29. Older setups some programs/utilities do not use Mimemap for the filetype mappings, on the Iyonix it's *the* way. Something about the older DOSMAP stuff being "deprecated". -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046559660:20:11932:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046559660:20:11932:39; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:01:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010783; 1 Mar 2003 22:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pFxL-0004fe-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:59:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21Mx7C09768 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:59:07 GMT Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Mx7T09761 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:59:07 GMT Received: from modem-1191.honker.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.225.167] helo=lcessford.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pFwf-00072J-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:59:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:58:36 GMT From: Alex Cessford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured Message-ID: <318194cc4b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > > I know about applets but don't know about scripts. I have never, > > (well knowingly at least!), used or interfered or otherwise handled > > scripts. > > 'knowingly'... The trouble *is* that you've got 2 (or more) copies of > some things. There are a number of ways of getting into that situation > e.g. Copy the insides of one applet over the insides of another. Rename > an applet and stick another copy (with the original name) inside the > applets folder. As a complete non-technical type I must of course accept your knowledge that I do indeed have two or more copies of some things. All I can say is, 1. As I said last night, I spent a long time deleting both OvPro versions and appplet copies, then having a pretty fair check to see where else I might have dropped copies. I cannot imagine where else any copies could be skulking. I do have a reasonable structure to my harddisc directories, so I would always store anything to do with Ovation in my DeskTopPub directory or a sub-directory thereof. The exception here would be AWViewer in !Boot.Resources and references to OvPro in the LookUp. 2. I do know that I have never copied the insides of one applet over the insides of another, nor have I ever renamed an applet. I can be sure of this simply because I would never have any reason to do anything of this sort, and wouldn't know *why* I would ever want to do such things. The only conceivable exception would be if I had a problem, (such as this current one), and was being guided step by step by an expert. I know that that has not happened in relation to applets. > > these in relation to !MenuLib, PSsupport in Arrange,ColSupp, Fill, > Arrange doesn't have a PSSupport file in it - at least it is not > supposed to. Yes, sorry about that, what I wrote is misleading. I was generalising over the whole sentence rather than being specific about which file belonged to which applet. > I can't see the files on your machine. I suspect if I could it would be > enlightening. You're welcome to pop round anytime - coffee or red wine always available :-) > I'd be inclined to take a fresh copy of 2.6X off your CD, use the 2.70 > upgrade from my web site on it. Oh boo-hoo! You won't believe it, but you have stumbled over my next problem to address! My CDdrive refuses to acknowledge the presence of any CDs, whether audio or data! It reports "drive empty" at all times. Result, it is completely unusable currently, so I can't solve the OvPro problem that way. > Particularly Rob Clarks Applet manager. > Plan B would be to pick the first applet that raises a throwback error, > and compare the files inside the copy in !OvnPro.Applets with the files > inside a new copy. I suspect you'll find Problem solved!! Arrange, (and all the other applets causing problems), have somehow acquired additional files or directories!. These are; !OvnResDir, !RunImage, Modules and a PSsupport inside Arrange.Library. All of them have these same additions, so it couldn't be that I have accidently dropped these extra bits into ten different applets requiring to be Shift/Clicked to get open in order for such accidents to happen. So how *did* they get there? Pass! I have downloaded fresh copies of all the applets from the web tonight, deleted completely the original applets and replaced them with the new copies. Result, no throwbacks - hooray. My very sincere thanks to you. Oh! Victor Meldrew! Sequence: 1. After above replacement, Shift/F12Shutdown, Power-off, Power-on, load OP 2.70. Fine, no throwbacks. 2. Click on OP to open window, throwback window plus OP showing lots of the buttons on the buttonbar as blank slabs. Throwback doesn't mention any of the now cured applets, but instead is objecting to TidyMove, SnapMac, BMbutton and NudgePal - all complaints being directed at 1 S Unknown identifier. Well this is definitely my own fault. Having downloaded fresh copies of the aforementioned cures, whilst at it I thought it would be worth downloading fresh copies of other listed applets, including those listed on the link to Chris Johnson's site. (Why did I try and use my own initiative??). TidyMove, etc. were of course amongst these new fetched copies. I only stored them pretty deep in $.FreeServe.programs.AnswrProbs.OvationPro.Throwbacks.NewApplets1/3/ 03.MoreNew.ChrisJohnson'sApplets - I have not put them into OP or any of the Applet Manager apps - and incidently I have moved these too into AnswrProbs....Throwbacks, prior to the power off/on, so they are also deep. How is OP finding these? > Remind me, where does !ApplXtr come from? It is a separate Applet-Manager application from Rob Clark, (literally, !ApplXtr = !AppletExtra), so when !Applet gets full you use !ApplXtr - at least that's what I *think* is the idea, it's certainly what I have it for. - Could it be that trying to use two copies of !Applet simultaneously would clash so you need a separately named program that looks identical? - He asked, making a feeble attempt at being technical!). -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046565442:20:09448:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046565442:20:09448:50; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:37:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008823; 2 Mar 2003 0:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pHSy-00049Q-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:36:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h220a0Z23909 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 00:36:00 GMT Received: from smtp3.global.net.uk (smtp3.global.net.uk [80.189.92.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h220Zxu23904 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 00:36:00 GMT Received: from gr.189.20.30.dial.global.net.uk ([80.189.20.30] helo=RTV) by smtp3.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18pHSQ-000Jkm-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:35:59 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 21:58:24 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders Message-ID: <4BCC8EFE62%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.61 POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article Tim Howarth wrote: > David Pilling wrote: > > >Knowing nothing about OP's scripting, does anyone know if exists a > > >script to traverse a document and change frame border widths ? [snip] > > Save as DDL, load into text editor, make change, save, reload? > I'd thought about that but I'm wondering if there is a simple way for > completely non-technical folk. [snip] > I counted the other day and we have at work approx 54000 Impression > docs, so a meachanism to allow us to use these on Windows with least > hassle is what I'm pondering. [snip] The least hassle & possibly the cheapest route might be to buy an Iyonix! -- "Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore!" __ __ _ _ _____ | \/ (_) | __ |_ _|____ __ _____ ___ | |\/| | | |/ / | |/ _ \ V V (_- for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046568940:20:19925:53; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:35:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2126899; 2 Mar 2003 1:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pIO5-0001ii-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:35:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h221ZWu30385 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:32 GMT Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h221ZWq30382 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:32 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.253.76.8]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20030302013525.FPFO21530.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302013149.00b36650@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:34:25 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME In-Reply-To: References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 20:29 1.3.03 +0000, you wrote: >In on Sat 01 Mar, David Pilling wrote: > >While you are looking at that I should also say that Select-dragging also >usually selects text in Windows programs. This appears to work in OvPro for Windows (on XP) but only if you move the mouse as soon as you left click to start the process. If you wait even a millisecond after the left click, before beginning to select text, the 'key' icon, for locked text I believe? appears. -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046602681:20:02686:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046602681:20:02686:40; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:58:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2129534; 2 Mar 2003 10:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pRAC-0002LO-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:57:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22AuvK29290 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:56:57 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22Auun29287 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:56:56 GMT Received: from [62.188.112.8] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pR9K-00057z-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:56:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Can you Find styles? Message-ID: <4bccd6102drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Me again. In OP's Find & Replace, how do you search for occurrences of a specific Style? -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046614750:20:16962:136".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046614750:20:16962:136; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:19:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120784; 2 Mar 2003 14:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pUIr-0005IF-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:18:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22EHxi30320 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:17:59 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22EHwo30317 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:17:58 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust249.tnt32.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.158.249] with SMTP for id PAA10662 (8.8.8/1.3); Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:14:50 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000601c2e0be$7fa45780$f99e74d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:15:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Friday, February 28, 2003 10:27 PM, Alex Cessford wrote: ... > 2. I emptied my copy of Rob Clark's !ApplXtr completely, nothing at > all in it. > Sounds OK. And when you run it (as you described later in this email, it shows an empty left pane). > 3. I looked at the applets held in !OvPro.Applets (version 2.70) and > if I had a duplicate held by Rob's other app-manager, !Applets I > deleted it from !Applets. It is the goal of the program to have in the left pane *all* the stored applets in AppleStore of the Applet manager in use and to have in the right pane a selection of *all*the stored applets. This selection contains a list of the applets installed in Applets in Ovation Pro. > 4. All the remaining applets held by !Applets were displayed in the > left hand section only, (ie. shown as being 'Stored' but none shown > as being 'Installed'. That is correct. Left pane: all applets in !Applets.AppleStore. Right pane: None of these installed in Applets in !Ovnpro. When !Applets and/or !AppltXtr is **started** 'it updates' itself: it compares what is stored in its own xxStore folder with that, what is present in Ovation Pro's Applet folder. it also investigates the version, warning you when the Applet installed in OP is older than the one stored in !Applets. it always looks at the *currently* set path for Ovations Pro's Applets folder. !Applets and !ApplXtra display the *same* in their right hand panes. With more than one copy of Ovation Pro loaded, the path to the Applets folder of Ovation Pro always points to the last loaded copy of Ovation Pro, loaded before !Applets or !ApplXtr. In the right pane it displays the contents of Applets of the latest loaded Ovation Pro, before !Applets (or !ApplXtr) is loaded. In the left pane, it displays the contents of the ApplStore in !Applets or ApplXtStore in !AppletXtr. ... > So, currently my harddisc now stores the above-mentioned two copies > !OvnPro together with a single, empty copy of !ApplXtr and a single > copy of !Applets holding something like eighty applets. Two copies of OvnPro ... Again, Important is the path to the Applets folder in Ovation Pro. This is always set to the last loaded copy. ... > !OvnPro.Applets now holds Arrange, ColSupp, Fill, Grabber, OArtwrks, > OCharges, OEPS, OPCA, Ovation1 and Today. All other applets are > stored in !Applets. Sounds OK. > ... I then launched !Applets and > clicked on its iconbar icon to open its window. Very strange! No. It has updated the 'view' representing what !Applets it has found in its own store (left panel) and what is present in the Applets folder of the last loaded/used/recognised Ovation Pro (right panel). > Both > left and righthand panes now are displaying applets! A test shows > that the Remove and Install buttons work normally. Of course. > I also notice > that the applets stored in !OvnPro.Applets have msyteriously found > their way back into !Applets, and independent, though related app, > even though I know for certain that I deleted such duplicates from > here before the Shutdown. Take a careful look. Distinguish between the right and the left panel. If the 10 Applets listed in the right pane (installed in Applets Ovation Pro) have found their way to the left panel (Applets stored in !Applets.AppleStore), than something mysterious has happened. Assuming, you didn't put them there yourself by using the buttons. > Ok, so how about !ApplXtr ? Launch that. Yes, it too has somehow > recaptured a selection of applets, but this time it is only the > ten a applets in !OvnPro.Applets, and they are only displayed in the > righthand Installed pane, the left, stored pane still being empty. > Of course, this is OK. No applets stored in !ApplXtr, 10 Applets installed in OP.Applets. > Does this mean that I can have *all* applets held in !Applets, even > if I don't load the app to iconbar, perhaps? Yes. Or part of it in !Applets and part of it in !ApplXtr. Both show on start-up the *same* in the right panel (installed Applets in !Ovation Pro) and *different applets*, showing what is present in their own Store folder. Anyway, that's how I use it. Already from the beginning. In !ApplXtr I keep the Applets from the Reources website. Assuming, that the content of your applets is OK (!), I think, !Applets (with all your applets) and one copy of !OvnPro would solve your problems. With *new* applets, open !Applets.ApplStore *OR* !OvnPro.Applets -like you open any other folder in RISC OS and delete the old applet via the filer menu. Copy the new applet in the ApplStore or Applets folder. Next, you can use !Applets to update applets or for other 'management' of applets. Remember, when you have changed anything in !Applets, you have to restart !OvnPro, when it was loaded on the iconbar. You can use !Applets without !OvnPro loaded, as long as the path to !OvnPro.Applets is known. Like you say that you do at boot at startup. As said, this way it works very satisfying for me. No problems at all. So -I think- your problem isn't connects to !Applets or !ApplXtr. But to the content of one/more of your Applets. I have to admit, that I don't run two copies of two installed !OvnPro applications at the same time. Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:16:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046676135:20:29084:124".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:16:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046676135:20:29084:124; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:22:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2106421; 3 Mar 2003 7:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pkGu-0008GK-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:22:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h237LVH16077 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:21:31 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h237LV516074 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:21:31 GMT Received: from [62.64.226.71] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18pkGM-000Gox-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:21:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:21:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net>, John Waddell wrote: > At 22:09 2.3.03 +0000, you wrote: > >In article , > > David Pilling wrote: > > > >Questions, questions... > > > >Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > > >If it already can... What am I missing? > > > > > I can't think of any reason why not. > > > >End of line for me... Dunno what else to try. > I know it must be a long shot but ... ... ... ... > I have an Epson scanner which comes with a utility including the ability > to print - obviously! > However, the point is that the software will not cause the scanner to > act as a photocopier - "Print To Copy" and print to my HP printer > unless I make the fax the default printer and then set the software to > print to the HP! I am told this is a software issue not yet resolved. > Perhaps if you made a different printer the default printer and define > OvPro to print to the USB printer and try? As I say - a long shot. > John Waddell Thanks for the thoughts John. I *don't* have a scanner attached to the PC. I have two printers attached... Laser to the Printer port and Epson to the USB port. If I make the laser the default printer, OvPro print to it okay (small issue to sort out later)... As do all other print capable Apps. Make Epson the default printer OvPro will not print to it successfully... Immediately run something else Word, PSP... whatever, and they will print to the Epson. So my question would be this... How do I set the other (Laser) as the default printer on the printer port, and still get the Epson to print throught the USB port, when the default printer always picks up the output. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:17:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046722637:20:28229:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:17:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046722637:20:28229:91; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:17:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028638; 3 Mar 2003 20:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pwLW-0005Z0-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:15:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h23KE7S28117 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:14:07 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h23KE6028113 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:14:07 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18pwK6-0000su-00 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:14:06 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0543.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.31]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id h23KE5Q20427 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:14:05 GMT Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:35:27 GMT From: Ken Paton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030224005156.00b84730@mail.which.net> <4bc9b71e3csimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > > >Also the default A4 doc opened with a huge white area to the right of > >where the page should have finished > > There is no easy way I could find of restricting the size of a Windows > window. In RISC OS windows have a maximum size, reach the limits of the > scroll bars and they'll expand no more. Not so in Windows. > I had a look at this in Visual Basic, which I am currently using at University, and although it is possible to set the Width & Height properties of a window, it seems that someone has decided that a Maximized Window means Full Screen and nothing else, and have disabled the ability to adjust the dimensions from code when the window is either Maximized or Minimized. This seems to have been handled in Word, by adjusting the magnification factor to ensure that the document fills the available area. If you adjust the magnification to 100%, then the document is centred into the available area, so avoiding the effect of a large blank area at either side of the document. Perhaps you could do something similar with Ovation Pro. -- Ken Paton -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:17:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046758766:20:23963:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:17:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046758766:20:23963:45; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:19:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2023843; 4 Mar 2003 6:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q5ky-0005oQ-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:18:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h246H1g05667 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:01 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h246H0105660 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:17:01 GMT Received: from [62.64.209.132] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18q5jX-000BlT-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:17:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:11:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcdc3d1ebdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com>, John Pettigrew wrote: > In a previous message, Dave Symes wrote: > > How do I set the other (Laser) as the default printer on the printer > > port, and still get the Epson to print throught the USB port, when the > > default printer always picks up the output. > When printing, don't use the "quick print" option but pull up the print > dialog box (how you do this varies depending on the app, but in Word, > it's Ctrl-p). Then you can select the printer you want from the list of > all available printers from a drop-down menu. Some apps (e.g. MicroGrafx > PicturePublisher) make this harder than it needs to be with complex > dialogs but the principle is the same. > HTH > John Thank for the thoughts John, but I'm way past simple solutions... I'm just waiting to hear the fat lady sing. ;-) Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:17:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046770189:20:04662:204".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:17:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046770189:20:04662:204; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:29:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id al2128113; 4 Mar 2003 9:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18q8eI-0007su-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:23:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h249MO300923 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:22:24 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h249MNd00917 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:22:23 GMT Received: from Medion ([80.7.28.106]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030304092223.RQNS3191.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@Medion> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:22:23 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c2e22f$770c4bb0$6a1c0750@Medion> From: "John Vanags" To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030303104255.00b355b8@mail.which.net> <4bcdc39c91dfs@ukgateway.net> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:21:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Re Epson printer problem. (Epson 1270) If I try to print an Ovation file directly to my Epson printer all I get is rubbish. Printing directly to the laser printer is OK. I have the print preview option ticked but it fails to appear before printing. If I create a Pdf file and then print to the Epson the print preview appears and prints the file correctly. I wonder if anyone else has this problem? John Vanags -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046537788:10:26653:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046537788:10:26653:48; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:56:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119367; 1 Mar 2003 16:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pAH2-0001Iv-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:55:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21GtCL30021 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:55:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21GtBY30017 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:55:11 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18pAGV-0000Lk-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:55:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:55:06 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders Message-ID: References: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >Knowing nothing about OP's scripting, does anyone know if exists a > >script to traverse a document and change frame border widths ? > > Yes, No. > > Save as DDL, load into text editor, make change, save, reload? I'd thought about that but I'm wondering if there is a simple way for completely non-technical folk. i.e. a button or "on load" event. I counted the other day and we have at work approx 54000 Impression docs, so a meachanism to allow us to use these on Windows with least hassle is what I'm pondering. (OP being the obvious solution.) ATM the setting of all borders to 1mm upsets quite a few of my own documents forcing flow to extra pages when tight for space. Is there any chance that you could make this behaviour different/better/configurable default width, with tramsimp, or shall we assume that, that is the way it is ? I've just thought, is it transimp that is setting it to 1mm, or is it simply that that is the default border width with OP ? (and can that be changed ?) -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046539984:10:22922:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046539984:10:22922:53; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:33:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1022175; 1 Mar 2003 17:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pAqN-0006If-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:32:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21HW8C20364 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:32:08 GMT Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21HW7q20340 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:32:07 GMT Received: from modem-593.pounder.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.214.81] helo=lcessford.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pAqE-0008NO-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:32:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:32:01 GMT From: Alex Cessford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Throwbacks, still Message-ID: <069b76cc4b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <8iObYsE1GrU+EwV1@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3b392ec74b.martin@mw-software.com> In-Reply-To: <3b392ec74b.martin@mw-software.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <3b392ec74b.martin@mw-software.com> you wrote: [snip] > > Decide if ArtWorks files matter to you? If they don't, then either > > install ArtWorks, or the ArtWorks viewer - put the latter inside !Boot > > with !Fonts etc. or at least somewhere will it will be seen by RISC OS > > before you run OP. I missed this before, so just by way of providing complete information, I can tell you that I have always had !AWViewer resident in !Boot.Resources. I have just checked again, it is there, and it is version 1.61d dated 20 January, 2003. -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:08 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046540319:10:01228:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046540319:10:01228:44; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:38:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129502; 1 Mar 2003 17:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pAw6-0007ge-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:38:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21Hc7l21817 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:38:07 GMT Received: from javelin.vip.uk.com (javelin.vip.uk.com [62.60.0.98]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Hc7p21813 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:38:07 GMT Received: from modem-34-52-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.52.34] helo=localhost) by javelin.vip.uk.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18pAvx-0007YW-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:38:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:36:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] carelessness Message-ID: <4bcc77088arod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Help! Some months/weeks? ago I carefully locked a message detailing the new Windows trial of OP so that I could in due course give it a try myself. Despite searching back to November I cannot find the message ... perhaps I deleted it in error! Could someone point me to where I can download the trial, if it is still available? -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046547470:10:01176:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046547470:10:01176:41; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111054; 1 Mar 2003 19:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pCnk-0001rb-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21JbG309640 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:37:16 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21Jb7Q09608 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:37:07 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.195] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pCn8-0002UF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:37:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:53:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcc5d2351steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 28 Feb, Barry E Allen wrote: > I wonder if you know where the word 'berk' comes from? Would you be > embarrassed if you knew? I am lead to believe that it is Cockney Rhyming > slang. 'Berk'ley Hunt :o))) "Berkshire Hunt" IIRC. Possibly a *very* early anti-hunt person came up with the phrase. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:14 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046550616:11:08658:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046550616:11:08658:43; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:30:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1107203; 1 Mar 2003 20:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pDbh-0006SV-00; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:29:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h21KTDW18005 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:29:13 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h21KTDM18002 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:29:13 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030301202912.JFAW4529.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:29:12 +0000 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:29:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 01 Mar, David Pilling wrote: > >I downloaded the windows version (reports 2.70 27 Feb 2003) and ran it on > >WinME. > > Just to update you. Last weeks effort was blighted by a memory bug, > which meant it would fall over for some people, work for others, and was > just generally unreliable. > > The 27 Feb version has the bug fixed, so offers more hope of working. > > However I've still not got W9X working properly. I can tell you that by > using OP text choices, unticking 'unicode' and then save choices, quit, > rerun, you should get reasonable results on W9X, however font matching > is wrong, so the bold variation on Arial or whatever will come out > strange. > > > >LondonA TrueType (from their ProCD2). Spacing is very wide - takes about 3 > >times the width it should. > > Turn off Unicode... That sorted the spacing. Thank you. Strangely some of the LondonA font family display a dot (bulett?) for a space when invisibles are switched on, but others including Medium display the open box which is standard for 'no glyph defined'. > >I also noticed that the Windows convention of holding shift while clicking > >the left mouse button doesn't select text, and the RISC OS right click > >does. I think it is necessary to include the Windows convention if you are > >aiming for new customers. > > Another good idea, I didn't know about that Windows convention. I didn't express that very clearly did I - shift-click selects from cursor to click position. While you are looking at that I should also say that Select-dragging also usually selects text in Windows programs. Also keyboard navigation through text seems fairly consistent with ctrl-cursor L or R moving to the beginning of a word, ctrl-cursor up (or down) to the beginning of a paragraph. The addition of shift makes the move a selecting move. I understand some of these may be development changes once the program is released. I don't usually have too much trouble switching between Windows and RISC OS, but using RISC OS conventions under Windows throws me a bit. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046568945:10:01467:141".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046568945:10:01467:141; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:35:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002401; 2 Mar 2003 1:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pIO3-0001iU-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:35:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h221ZQU30371 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:26 GMT Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h221ZQc30368 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:26 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.253.76.8]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20030302013518.FPFE21530.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:35:18 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302005300.00b36f58@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 01:25:01 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME In-Reply-To: <4bcc6dea11Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> References: <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 15:57 1.3.03 +0000, you wrote: >In article <1ec55acc4b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk>, > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > > Would they notice the difference? Might they not just like the new > > method? > >I dare say one can argue this umpteen ways, but it seems to me that the >market for OP on windows is people who don't like the existing windows >software, and (initially) people with a RO background. I'm not against >standard interfaces, but jumping through hoops to make code look like >another platform's standards isn't necessarily worthwhile. > This is a difficult one to resolve. It seems to me that OvPro (even for Windows) should be loyal to its roots and follow OvPro conventions. Regrettably, or not depending on your point of view, OvPro for windows might be the last event required to 'send people over to the other side'. I suspect such customers would wish to keep what is familiar in what they have left in their new toy. Those of us that use both types of machine as a matter of course will inevitably experience clashes but as Tim states, what is familiar in the product and makes it work becomes second nature in time. My philosphy would be to adopt the best of both worlds and since I cannot think of anything in OvPro that particularly frustrates me, perhaps the windows version should simply acquire the better things in windows based products. Don't get me wrong, OvPro does have one or two minor niggles such as the occasional 'radar type' clutter on the screen, which 'CTRL-I' (twice) clears by forcing a frame rewrite. It would find even greater favour with me if it had tables (sorry for harping on about this!) and also an 'autotext' facility like Word, which makes addressing letters and doing other things so much easier. Not sure if OvPro has an applet to do it, but the 'Tools>Letters and Mailings>Labels and envelopes facility in Word is very useful. >I doubt a lot of less-technical users *really* know or appreciate >standard windows conventions; provided when they start to use an new >application the way it works is adequately documented, and if it has >quirks, those are explicitly described, that should be enough. This is true also. I was surprised for example to note that David was not aware of the convention which allows you to select a list of files, a list of emails, a section of text and a few other things no doubt, with a 'shift-left click'. This is very handy at times. One thing not seemingly in Ov\Pro for windows (not for me in XP anyway) is middle click for options! I know the stuff is up above but middle click can be quicker. On the other hand, since I use a wheeled mouse, the basic scrolling facility I find very useful. Cannot have my cake and eat it I suppose! Although if the RiscOS middle click is not to be incorporated, could we have the full Windows facility including the single middle click to lock the scrolling facility to movement of the mouse? I appreciate some of this might come across as throw away comments and I also appreciate it must be complex to have got this far, never mind everything else we might seek! >-- >Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > >-- >To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net >with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > >Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046597427:10:26154:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046597427:10:26154:42; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:30:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1100274; 2 Mar 2003 9:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pPnD-0001Ap-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:29:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h229T8F17582 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 09:29:08 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h229T7w17579 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 09:29:07 GMT Received: from madwesties.demon.co.uk ([194.222.129.211]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18pPmL-0003xE-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:29:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tricia Garner To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:30:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre wrote: > In article <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk>, Barry E Allen > wrote: > > In article <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > > wrote: > > > I can't help but feel a right berk. > > I wonder if you know where the word 'berk' comes from? Would you be > > embarrassed if you knew? I am lead to believe that it is Cockney > > Rhyming slang. 'Berk'ley Hunt :o))) > No I didn't know - and how could I be more embarrassed than I am at > the moment!? > I'm content to be called that also (at the moment, anyway!). I doubt yer average Cockney would use the American pronunciation (as suggested by Barry) of Berkley anyway. Surely they would pronounce it as in 'bark'... I know, don't call you Shirley :-) -- Tricia Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046603137:10:02497:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046603137:10:02497:46; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 11:05:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002165; 2 Mar 2003 11:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pRHO-0000AT-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 11:05:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22B4tb30641 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:04:55 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22B4tw30636 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:04:55 GMT Received: from [81.96.125.247] by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030302110455.XSOU22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@[81.96.125.247]> for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:04:55 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 11:03:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Can you Find styles? From: Mike Williams To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4bccd6102drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist on 2/3/03 11:54 am, Ray Favre wrote: > Me again. > > In OP's Find & Replace, how do you search for occurrences of a > specific Style? Basically you can't, but there is a 3rd party applet (SRWE Search and Replace with Effect) which does. Can be very useful in a variety of ways. Mike Williams Akalat Publishing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:32 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046608412:10:01241:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046608412:10:01241:50; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:33:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000747; 2 Mar 2003 12:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pSeF-0001Y0-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 12:32:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22CW4D12604 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:32:04 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22CW3N12601 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:32:03 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust57.tnt35.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.164.57] with SMTP for id NAA04934 (8.8.8/1.3); Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:28:56 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002f01c2e0af$b3fff570$39a474d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <002501c2df05$abe55840$caa274d5@padua> <4bcc5d750csteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Extensions was: Re: [softwarelist] Side by side printing Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:04:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:57 PM, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 28 Feb, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > >> I am not sure, that adding such a line will do the job ... >> At least, the the networking program has to make use of Mimemap. > >> I can't speak for the IYONIX or Select above 4.29. > > Older setups some programs/utilities do not use Mimemap for the > filetype mappings, on the Iyonix it's *the* way. > > Something about the older DOSMAP stuff being "deprecated". You speak about a different situation ... and only from RISC OS. Looking at a windows or dos disk (floppy, cd, or share) from RISC OS. When there is a map, the map will be used to translate it from windows extension to RISC OS filetype: .htm or .txt. Ovation Pro documents, made in Windows, get the extension .dpd When this is mapped (and RISC OS understands the mapping), the filer displays the document with the Ovation Pro filetype (OvnPro) and it can be runned by double-click. In RISC OS. But DOS map / Mimemap don't prevent the addition of ,b27 or 'no extension', when a document is written or copied to a Windows share via the network. Except for maps present in the network application, like RISC OS 'fff' to Windows 'txt'. And addition of /xxx doesn't help in such a case. I wrote about ... what you will see from Windows in a windows filer. This means for OvnPro files -seen from windows in windows filer-: Example with filetype OvnPro becomes Example,b27 (comma b27) and Example/dpd becomes Example.dpd,b27 (period dpd comma b27) Both not, what windows 'needs', and in this case this needs to be Example.dpd NOTE: there is ONE exception: adding /xxx and using LanMan98 with the option 'no types' ON. This writes Example/dpd to Windows as Example.dpd But with this 'no types' option on, there has to be a DOS map (or MimeMap ?) to be able to use that file in RISC OS via the network. I prefer to add the map to the extensions file in LanMan98 and emulator. Works best for me. -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046620554:10:19769:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046620554:10:19769:41; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:55:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018678; 2 Mar 2003 15:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pVnX-0005mp-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:54:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22Frpb13422 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:53:51 GMT Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (murphys.services.quay.plus.net [212.159.14.225]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h22Frou13417 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:53:50 GMT Received: (qmail 27669 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2003 15:53:40 -0000 Received: from evanallen.plus.com (HELO barryrpc) (212.159.102.184) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2003 15:53:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:51:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre5 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk>, Tricia Garner wrote: > In article <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > wrote: > > In article <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk>, Barry E Allen > > wrote: > > > In article <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > > > wrote: > > > > I can't help but feel a right berk. > > > I wonder if you know where the word 'berk' comes from? Would you be > > > embarrassed if you knew? I am lead to believe that it is Cockney > > > Rhyming slang. 'Berk'ley Hunt :o))) > > No I didn't know - and how could I be more embarrassed than I am at > > the moment!? > > I'm content to be called that also (at the moment, anyway!). > I doubt yer average Cockney would use the American pronunciation (as > suggested by Barry) of Berkley anyway. Surely they would pronounce it as > in 'bark'... I know, don't call you Shirley :-) It seems looking at Google that 'Berkshire Hunt' and 'Berkeley Hunt' are both given as the definition in equal measure. Yes I've nothing else to do! :o) -- Barry A. Rugby Union in Manchester:- http://www.broughton-park.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046622920:10:11963:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046622920:10:11963:61; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:35:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1011464; 2 Mar 2003 16:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pWQ8-0005rv-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:34:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22GXxd20991 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:33:59 GMT Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22GXwV20987 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:33:59 GMT Received: from modem-442.caterpie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.58.186] helo=lcessford.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pWPV-0007JL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:33:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:17:07 GMT From: Alex Cessford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Throwbacks - MultipleDefs - Not Cured Message-ID: <7095f3cc4b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcc6f404cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcc6f404cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bcc6f404cJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> you wrote: Thanks for replying Jeremy, > Reading this thread I wonder if part of the problem is apps or applets > "seen" when filer windows have been opened and therefore having the paths > to them remembered in system variables. Then they get moved or copied > around, so the system variables contain path values that no longer point > to the right app, or indeed any app. I understand all this, so thank you. Probably correct, but I have now cured all ills, so will never know! > Possibly the app manager involved is also storing applets names and path > values based on where applets were seen when they were first defined to > the applet manager, but that info won't be uptodate either. Well I've given up on the applet managers, at least for the time being. My reason for using them in the first place was to allow me to have OvPro loading quickly because I didn't put many applets in it, but to have more available should I feel the need. The principle of having such a manager seems a good one to me on that basis, so no disrespect to Rob Clark intended. > Looking at what Alex did, I'd have said that he should have shutdown & > rebooted his machine at more intervals than he had, and also that every > directory he opened when looking for things should have been Ctrl-clicked > on (if a filer directory) or shift-clicked on (if an app/let). I'd also > if I was doing this take a good look at what actually gets saved in the > config manager's choices/options/whatever files and also what sort of > system vars are being set as things get defined. Ok, I don't really understand why a greater number of shutdown and reboots would achieve, but I accept your greater knowledge! When you refer to "config manager's choices/options/whatever files" I'm not sure if you are talking about some area of !Boot.Config or something to do with OP's Choices options. Also, whilst in principle I know what system variables are, I am no programmer and have no understanding of about setting or defining these, so that part of your comment is lost to me - sorry. However, as I said, all is now cured. The problem lay in ten different applets having all acquired the same set of extra files or directories that they shouldn't have - !OvnResDir, !RunImage, Modules a few other bits. Downloading new copies of these apps from the web to replace mine, plus a shutdown/reboot has solved things. I did have an extra whoppy because having solved the above, BMbutton, FancyDate and a couple of others threw spanners, but it was because I had removed the applet managers and these applets were not in OP's Applets directory. Thanks again for helping. -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046622932:10:12222:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046622932:10:12222:42; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:35:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104085; 2 Mar 2003 16:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pWQT-0005wg-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:34:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22GYWF21095 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:34:32 GMT Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22GYWL21092 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:34:32 GMT Received: from modem-442.caterpie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.58.186] helo=lcessford.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pWQ3-0007JL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:34:32 +0000 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:21:15 GMT From: Alex Cessford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Throwbacks - Now Cured Message-ID: <57f6f3cc4b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> References: <431750c54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <0c5bcfc54b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <9eb9e9c64b.Alex@lcessford.freeserve.co.uk> <75e82dc74b.martin@mw-software.com> <4bcc44be7edfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: Sorry everyone. Last night's tantrum was provoked by relief at solving everything followed by frustration at having a new set of applets being awkward. I have solved this myself this morning. It was caused by my having removed the applets manager and then not having the applets concerned resident in OvnPro.Applets. Putting them in there was an instant cure. A most appreciative thank you to everyone who has persisted in helping this to a conclusion. One last minor problem. OP 2.70 is opening with no toolbox available. I go to Choices, View and untick Attach toolbox, click on OK or Save and a free-floating toolbox appears for use. Put the tick back to attach it and click OK or Save again, instead of doing just that causes it to vanish again. What am I doing wrong here, please. Now, about my duff CDdrive ....... no, I daren't!!! -- Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046643193:10:21378:136".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046643193:10:21378:136; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:13:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1112690; 2 Mar 2003 22:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pbhQ-0008TS-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:12:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22MCMY30284 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:12:22 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22MCLM30277 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:12:21 GMT Received: from [62.64.226.35] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18pbih-000OIX-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:14:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Questions, questions... > >Can OvPro print to the USB port? > >If it already can... What am I missing? > I can't think of any reason why not. > Aside from the obvious thing of USB/parallel port differences, there may > be other differences e.g. all the printer preferences/settings. It might > be interesting to turn on printer margins and see if anything is > actually being printed. You could perhaps open the status window for the > USB and observe the size of output generated. > There could still be bugs in printer output, sort of test there is to > try printing different things. > Or select the USB printer, but use the print to file button (expanded > print window) and see how big a file you can capture - compare to > similar output from other programs. Okay, thanks for the notes David. With the printer status window in view, document print margins on, and the printer switched on, clicking print, sends a file size of 565K to the printer status window for about 5 seconds then it vanishes. With printer switched off the file remains in view in the queue, so I can read the details... Printing to file, captures a file of 13bytes. When loaded in a text editor is says: "%% eps test" (No quote mark). I've played with the printer properties settings, but that doesn't make a scrap of difference. Changes paper types, Ink from Colour to B&W etc etc. It just will not print to the USB port. All other native windows apps, be they graphic apps like PSP or text only apps like EditPad print to the USB printer. I have the printer software set to always present a preview window before printing. The preview window always appears with all other apps, but never appears with OvPro. To test for crankiness, I've switched preview off... Still no printing. The document I want to print was transfered from RO OvPro, so just in case, I've created a new virgin document in PC OvPro... Still no print. End of line for me... Dunno what else to try. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa! cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046646909:10:17473:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046646909:10:17473:40; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 23:15:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111205; 2 Mar 2003 23:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pcfH-00026N-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 23:14:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h22NE1R16347 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:14:01 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22NE0N16342 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:14:00 GMT Received: from [213.116.50.154] (helo=213.116.50.154) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pceb-000170-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 23:13:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 18:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcd00a8f7charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk> <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk>, Tricia Garner > wrote: > > In article <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > > wrote: > > > In article <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk>, Barry E Allen > > > wrote: > > > > In article <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > > > > wrote: > > > > > I can't help but feel a right berk. > > > > I wonder if you know where the word 'berk' comes from? Would you be > > > > embarrassed if you knew? I am lead to believe that it is Cockney > > > > Rhyming slang. 'Berk'ley Hunt :o))) > > > No I didn't know - and how could I be more embarrassed than I am at > > > the moment!? > > > I'm content to be called that also (at the moment, anyway!). > > I doubt yer average Cockney would use the American pronunciation (as > > suggested by Barry) of Berkley anyway. Surely they would pronounce it > > as in 'bark'... I know, don't call you Shirley :-) > It seems looking at Google that 'Berkshire Hunt' and 'Berkeley Hunt' are > both given as the definition in equal measure. Yes I've nothing else to > do! :o) I suspect that Berkshire Hunt is probbly false, since as a quite a large county it would almost have had more than one hunt. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046649901:10:23757:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046649901:10:23757:42; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:05:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1023552; 3 Mar 2003 0:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pdRj-00017S-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:04:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2304Wd29523 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:04:32 GMT Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2304WO29518 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:04:32 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.253.76.30]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20030303000425.OYZC21530.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:04:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:01:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version In-Reply-To: <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 22:09 2.3.03 +0000, you wrote: >In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >Questions, questions... > > >Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > >If it already can... What am I missing? > > > I can't think of any reason why not. > >End of line for me... Dunno what else to try. I know it must be a long shot but ... ... ... ... I have an Epson scanner which comes with a utility including the ability to print - obviously! However, the point is that the software will not cause the scanner to act as a photocopier - "Print To Copy" and print to my HP printer unless I make the fax the default printer and then set the software to print to the HP! I am told this is a software issue not yet resolved. Perhaps if you made a different printer the default printer and define OvPro to print to the USB printer and try? As I say - a long shot. -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046682089:10:26258:197".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046682089:10:26258:197; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:01:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1028086; 3 Mar 2003 9:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ploq-0004RQ-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:01:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2390fs31274 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:00:41 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2390fx31269 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:00:41 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.103.22.25]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303090039.MKOD4529.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:00:39 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:00:30 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, Dave Symes wrote: > How do I set the other (Laser) as the default printer on the printer port, > and still get the Epson to print throught the USB port, when the default > printer always picks up the output. When printing, don't use the "quick print" option but pull up the print dialog box (how you do this varies depending on the app, but in Word, it's Ctrl-p). Then you can select the printer you want from the list of all available printers from a drop-down menu. Some apps (e.g. MicroGrafx PicturePublisher) make this harder than it needs to be with complex dialogs but the principle is the same. HTH John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:18:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046689728:10:05772:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:18:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046689728:10:05772:43; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:08:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1122585; 3 Mar 2003 11:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pnji-0006Ee-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:03:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h23B3IL02053 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:03:18 GMT Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h23B3Iu02046 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:03:18 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.253.76.24]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20030303110312.TEEI21530.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:03:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303104255.00b355b8@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:01:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version In-Reply-To: <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 07:21 3.3.03 +0000, you wrote: >In article <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net>, > John Waddell wrote: > > At 22:09 2.3.03 +0000, you wrote: > > >In article , > > > David Pilling wrote: > > > > >Questions, questions... > > > > >Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > > > >If it already can... What am I missing? > > > > > > > I can't think of any reason why not. > > > > > > > > >End of line for me... Dunno what else to try. > > > I know it must be a long shot but ... ... ... ... > > > I have an Epson scanner which comes with a utility including the ability > > to print - obviously! > > > However, the point is that the software will not cause the scanner to > > act as a photocopier - "Print To Copy" and print to my HP printer > > unless I make the fax the default printer and then set the software to > > print to the HP! I am told this is a software issue not yet resolved. > > Perhaps if you made a different printer the default printer and define > > OvPro to print to the USB printer and try? As I say - a long shot. > > John Waddell > >Thanks for the thoughts John. >I *don't* have a scanner attached to the PC. >I have two printers attached... Laser to the Printer port and Epson to the >USB port. > >If I make the laser the default printer, OvPro print to it okay (small >issue to sort out later)... As do all other print capable Apps. > >Make Epson the default printer OvPro will not print to it successfully... >Immediately run something else Word, PSP... whatever, and they will print >to the Epson. > >So my question would be this... >How do I set the other (Laser) as the default printer on the printer port, >and still get the Epson to print throught the USB port, when the default >printer always picks up the output. > >Cheers >Dave S Go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>(Double click Printers and Faxes} (I keep a shortcut to Printers and Faxes on my desktop since I access it regularly - To do this right click on the Printers and Faxes Icon and the rest is self explanatory) Having double clicked on Printers and Faxes you will have a window with all your printers showing. Just right click on the one you want as default. Clearly you know this already or you wouldn't be printing! (I mention it because I am often defined as an imperfect perfectionist by SWMBO!) I now enter the real of guesswork. I assume that when you CTRL-P inside an OvPro for windows doc and set the printer from which that you would like to print that the software will remember this printer as default. If not, my next action would be to open the default doc, set printer details and resave the blank open doc as your default stylesheet. It has also struck me that you do not mention whether you have both printers switched on when your doc print instruction goes off into the ether. If both were switched on and you tried to print to the Epson, does the doc come out on the Laser? By the way I have telephoned the Epson help line in the past and found them very helpful. You may well already have tried this but it might also help if you were to disconnect your USB printer use the PC a couple of times and then reconnect after you have switched on the printer. It might also be worthwhile going to the Epson web site to see if there are any upgrades to the driver for your printer. Autrement, je suis futu aussi! -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:19:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046709573:10:23480:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:19:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046709573:10:23480:60; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:39:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1022034; 3 Mar 2003 16:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18psik-0005Fz-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:23:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h23GMfL13878 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:22:41 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h23GMej13867 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:22:40 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust91.tnt33.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.160.91] with SMTP for id RAA05138 (8.8.8/1.3); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:19:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000001c2e199$160753a0$5ba074d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:29:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:29 PM, Anthony Hilton wrote: >>> LondonA TrueType (from their ProCD2). Spacing is very wide - takes >>> about 3 times the width it should. >> >> Turn off Unicode... > > That sorted the spacing. Thank you. > > Strangely some of the LondonA font family display a dot (bulett?) for > a space when invisibles are switched on, but others including Medium > display the open box which is standard for 'no glyph defined'. I don't have a Medium ... All the 'correct ones' of TrueType LondonA font family render ASCII 0183. (Middot, periodcentered). Sadly LondonA is the 'bad' font family on this CD as far as rendering is concerned. LondonAOsF --------- Italic and Bold Italic LondonAOsF --------- DemiBold Regular and Italic LondonASmallCaps --- DemiBold don't render at all. Fortunately the others are displayed. That is: LondonA DemiBold --- Regular and Italic LondonAOsF ---------Regular and Bold LondonASmallCaps ---Regular and Bold LondonA ------------ Regular and Italic and Bold and Bold Italic Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 17:19:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046728335:10:02379:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:19:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046728335:10:02379:62; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:52:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1001565; 3 Mar 2003 21:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pxps-0005kc-00; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:51:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h23LnI728081 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:49:18 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h23LnHT28072 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:49:18 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.103.22.25]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030303214915.IIQP23190.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:49:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:49:10 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <9bd195cd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030224005156.00b84730@mail.which.net> <4bc9b71e3csimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, Ken Paton wrote: > This seems to have been handled in Word, by adjusting the magnification > factor to ensure that the document fills the available area. [snip] > Perhaps you could do something similar with Ovation Pro. The problem with this approach in a page-layout program (rather than a word processor) is that do you change to page width, page height, current-frame width, current-frame height or something else? It's best, I think, to follow the current (and RISC OS) convention of leaving magnification alone. I still think that either turning the pasteboard on or creating a dummy pasteboard that fills the remainder of the window is the best way to go here. Certainly, painting the window with a colour other than the page background :-) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 18:25:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046802290:10:10113:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:25:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046802290:10:10113:75; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:24:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1117886; 4 Mar 2003 18:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qH2m-000752-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:21:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24IK5V05090 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:20:05 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24IK4505085 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:20:04 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qH1I-0000ol-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:20:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:18:59 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Printing to file, captures a file of 13bytes. >When loaded in a text editor is says: >"%% eps test" (No quote mark). This is some debugging code in the EPS applet. I would hope that it only appears on printers that declare themselves as PostScript, where it should do no harm. Anyway, two thoughts; (1) Remove the EPS applet - just open the OP folder/Applets and delete the OEPS folder. (2) Is your printer saying it is PS when it isn't, or is my PS printer recognition code wrong... Hmm. I hope (1) will get things working. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 20:15:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046808662:10:13868:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:15:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046808662:10:13868:50; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:11:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ae1114294; 4 Mar 2003 20:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qIdc-0003zj-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:03:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24K2sQ29883 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:02:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24K2s629878 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:02:54 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qIco-0007F1-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:02:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:01:35 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] carelessness References: <4bcc77088arod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcc77088arod@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Some months/weeks? ago I carefully locked a message detailing >the new Windows trial of OP so that I could in due course give >Could someone point me to where I can download the trial, >if it is still available? www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 20:15:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046808663:10:10398:329".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:15:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046808663:10:10398:329; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:11:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1114294; 4 Mar 2003 20:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qIda-0003zZ-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:03:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24K2Et29760 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:02:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24K2EO29756 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:02:14 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qIc9-000764-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:02:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:01:05 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders References: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Is there any chance that you could make this behaviour >different/better/configurable default width, with tramsimp, or shall we >assume that, that is the way it is ? ISTR the problem is that TransIMP does not support specific borders. An Impression document can contain Draw file borders, an OP document can't. A quick fix to this dilemma was to make all borders in Impression docs be a standard format in OP. Put it another way, width's are not the whole problem. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 20:55:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046810837:20:26755:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:55:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046810837:20:26755:74; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:47:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2123589; 4 Mar 2003 20:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qJDu-0002J4-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:41:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24KeLu07032 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:40:21 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24KeLc07025 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:40:21 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qJD2-0000QC-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:40:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:40:15 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Macro/script to tweak frame borders Message-ID: <945813ce4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> References: <6d6c62cc4b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >Is there any chance that you could make this behaviour > >different/better/configurable default width, with tramsimp, or shall we > >assume that, that is the way it is ? > > ISTR the problem is that TransIMP does not support specific borders. An > Impression document can contain Draw file borders, an OP document can't. Yes, even the simple line borders in Impression are multipiece drawfile. > A quick fix to this dilemma was to make all borders in Impression docs > be a standard format in OP. Assuming it's not worth adding embedded drawfile borders can the width of "made-up" borders be configurable ? BTW whilst playing at borders/shadows on the Windows version I noticed they had round end cap rather than square. -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 21:25:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046812938:10:20474:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:25:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046812938:10:20474:63; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:22:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018492; 4 Mar 2003 21:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qJpX-0001Ad-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:20:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24LJFv16596 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:19:15 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24LJER16592 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:19:15 GMT Received: from [62.188.174.149] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qJoe-0000Lb-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:19:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bcd81c588steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bcd00a8f7charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bca5393b0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb93d39drayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcb984b02barry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bcbea8088rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bcc767c40tricia@madwesties.demon.co.uk> <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bcd00a8f7charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 02 Mar, charles.hope wrote: > In article <4bccf14172barry@e-allen.co.uk>, > Barry E Allen wrote: [Snip] > I suspect that Berkshire Hunt is probbly false, since as a quite a large > county it would almost have had more than one hunt. The fact that there would have been more than one would match the object(s) of the rhyme would it not? The reference is to *A* berk, rather than *THE* berk. I've also heard that the rhyme is the reason what are perceived as "incomers" always tend to pronounce the county name as bArkshire as opposed to bErkshire. (Or should that be bUrkshire?) -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 21:25:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046812644:20:22894:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:25:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046812644:20:22894:64; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:17:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121125; 4 Mar 2003 21:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qJlc-0007OR-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:16:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24LEZs15443 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:14:35 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24LEZ315439 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:14:35 GMT Received: from [62.64.219.208] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qJk4-0001e5-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:14:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 19:54:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Printing to file, captures a file of 13bytes. > >When loaded in a text editor is says: > >"%% eps test" (No quote mark). > This is some debugging code in the EPS applet. I would hope that it only > appears on printers that declare themselves as PostScript, where it > should do no harm. > Anyway, two thoughts; > (1) Remove the EPS applet - just open the OP folder/Applets and delete > the OEPS folder. > (2) Is your printer saying it is PS when it isn't, or is my PS printer > recognition code wrong... Hmm. > I hope (1) will get things working. David, I've just heard the fat lady sing. I could kiss you... Unfortunately I don't lean in that direction... So I'm afraid a heartfelt *thank you* will have to do. :-) Ovation Pro now prints perfectly to the USB Epson. Now the price... After removing the OEPS folder Ovation Pro cannot now be run by double clicking the .exe or the shortcut I have for it. It will however run okay if I d/click a .dpd file. As one is not supposed to hoik bits out of a Windows prog b'cos it upsets the registry, I assume that problem applies here/there. I tried a couple of things but that didn't improve the situation... So an Uninstall, then Reinstall, removing the EOPS Applet before running the new install of OvPro for the first time did sort the problem out, so it'll now run from a d/click. Thanks again. Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 21:25:32 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046812720:20:22767:240".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:25:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046812720:20:22767:240; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:18:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024374; 4 Mar 2003 21:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qJmd-0000M4-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:17:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24LGK615944 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:16:20 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24LGKM15939 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:16:20 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qJlr-000Ps8-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:16:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:14:53 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME References: <2rnJKyLj7BY+Ew1A@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >While you are looking at that I should also say that Select-dragging also >usually selects text in Windows programs. Select drag works as on the RISC OS version, a short click and drag marks text, a long click and drag moves the frame. On RISC OS a control+select drag also moves the frame, I've changed that so that control+select does the usual Win multiple selection. Whilst Adjust+Drag now forces a frame move. Thanks for the comments about caret movement. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 22:05:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046815394:20:17329:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:05:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046815394:20:17329:55; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:03:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121640; 4 Mar 2003 22:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qKTe-00078z-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:01:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24Lxl026109 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:59:47 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24Lxkb26106 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:59:46 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qKRu-000COZ-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:59:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:58:30 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Now the price... >After removing the OEPS folder Ovation Pro cannot now be run by double >clicking the .exe or the shortcut I have for it. >As one is not supposed to hoik bits out of a Windows prog b'cos it upsets >the registry, I assume that problem applies here/there. It shouldn't. I wonder if you're on the (latest) 27 Jan version? (Help menu) The older ones were unstable with respect to anything that changed the way memory was allocated. Although OP on Windows lets you insert and remove applets like the RISC OS version, I'd like to build an applet manager into OP this time. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 23:15:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046819574:10:12729:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:15:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046819574:10:12729:68; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:12:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012684; 4 Mar 2003 23:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qLYz-0001e6-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:11:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24N9Y608797 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:09:34 GMT Received: from cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h24N9XT08794 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:09:33 GMT Received: from modem-53.krypton.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.33.181] helo=localhost.com) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18qLXP-0005ua-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:09:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:14:24 GMT From: Noel Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David I find DPlingScan a superb application, both for scanning, image processing and image format conversion. However, it has one feature which I find really irritating. The 'Tools' and 'Info' windows (which I choose to display), always first appear lying on top of the main image viewing window. The first thing I have to do, before I can view an image fully, is move these two windows out of the way. A polite request - is it possible to get DPlngScan to position the Tools & Info windows in the same way as the 'info palette' for Ov Pro? i.e. on the OUTSIDE edge of the main image window. I haven't found a way of getting DPlngScan to open this way. I for one would much prefer it if these windows appeared on the outside by default. -- Noel Williams -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 4 23:25:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046819993:20:10837:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:25:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046819993:20:10837:47; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:19:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010310; 4 Mar 2003 23:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qLgC-0002hl-00; Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:18:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h24NHjK10253 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:17:45 GMT Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (warrior.services.quay.plus.net [212.159.14.227]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h24NHj510249 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:17:45 GMT Received: (qmail 26710 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 23:17:41 -0000 Received: from evanallen.plus.com (HELO barryrpc) (212.159.102.184) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 23:17:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:17:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre5 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk>, Noel Williams wrote: > I find DPlingScan a superb application, both for scanning, image > processing and image format conversion. > A polite request - is it possible to get DPlngScan to position the > Tools & Info windows in the same way as the 'info palette' for Ov Pro? > i.e. on the OUTSIDE edge of the main image window. Polite request, seconded. -- Barry A. Rugby Union in Manchester:- http://www.broughton-park.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 03:25:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046834188:10:16712:71".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:25:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046834188:10:16712:71; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:16:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1126344; 5 Mar 2003 3:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qPNd-0006FM-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:15:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h253EE212058 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:14:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h253EEE12055 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:14:14 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qPMD-0004kM-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:14:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:12:41 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version - GIF References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> I suspect windows metafile will have to be added. What other graphics >Just remembered another one; >Probably impossible but what about Artworks ? No chance. I suppose I might do SVG and AW will have SVG export facilities one day. Or may be Martin will port AW to Windows ;-) Yes, (on another point of yours) line drawing is not quite right (endcaps) in OP for Win. There needs to be a sort out of it, there is a big snag because Windows does not support the same features as RISC OS for lines. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 03:25:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046834257:10:19090:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:25:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046834257:10:19090:49; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:17:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1127883; 5 Mar 2003 3:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qPOI-0001Eu-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:16:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h253FXL12449 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:15:33 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h253FWL12442 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:15:32 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qPNU-00063O-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:15:32 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 03:14:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan - Window config References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> A polite request - is it possible to get DPlngScan to position the >> Tools & Info windows in the same way as the 'info palette' for Ov Pro? >> i.e. on the OUTSIDE edge of the main image window. >Polite request, seconded. Looks like a band of villagers with burning torches approaching... It is wrong as it is, alas this is not the first time the problem has been pointed out. I will try to do something, if I release another version. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 14:26:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046849947:20:08509:102".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:26:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046849947:20:08509:102; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:39:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2112854; 5 Mar 2003 7:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qTTm-00015q-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:38:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h257b5k31147 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:37:05 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h257b4U31142 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:37:04 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qTSa-000Mqh-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:37:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:25:43 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version - GIF Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > Yes, (on another point of yours) line drawing is not quite right > (endcaps) in OP for Win. There needs to be a sort out of it, there is a > big snag because Windows does not support the same features as RISC OS > for lines. Yes, like dashed lines in drawfiles ? -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 14:26:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046851211:20:09193:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:26:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046851211:20:09193:58; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 08:00:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008191; 5 Mar 2003 7:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qTn5-0003cX-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:58:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h257vM002653 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:57:22 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h257vM802648 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:57:22 GMT Received: from [62.64.202.27] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qTmA-000HfO-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:57:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:48:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Now the price... > >After removing the OEPS folder Ovation Pro cannot now be run by double > >clicking the .exe or the shortcut I have for it. > >As one is not supposed to hoik bits out of a Windows prog b'cos it upsets > >the registry, I assume that problem applies here/there. > It shouldn't. > I wonder if you're on the (latest) 27 Jan version? (Help menu) The older > ones were unstable with respect to anything that changed the way memory > was allocated. > Although OP on Windows lets you insert and remove applets like the RISC > OS version, I'd like to build an applet manager into OP this time. I've just looked... I'm on version 2.70 1st Jan 03. Didn't realise you updated it. I'll change version. Thanks Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 14:27:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046856652:20:00290:126".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:27:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046856652:20:00290:126; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:30:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2103826; 5 Mar 2003 9:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qVAt-0005s6-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:26:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h259PVF25114 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:25:31 GMT Received: from cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h259PTX25105 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:25:30 GMT Received: from modem-163.brown-sailfin-tang.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.243.163] helo=localhost) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18qV9T-0004RD-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:25:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Jones To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:04:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <4bce577c1esimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.01b12 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >> A polite request > >Polite request, seconded. > Looks like a band of villagers with burning torches approaching... > It is wrong as it is, alas this is not the first time the problem has > been pointed out. I will try to do something, if I release another > version. Ahh, while the thought of revision is warm, could you also change the software not to presume A4 paper size - I don't know about other users, but I use the prog purely for viewing and processing and never for printing (I always dump images into OP - better print options). It gets really frustrating to be forever going File>Page Size>A2 just to be able to view the entire image - eaither because of its size (pixels or dpi). A choice of default may be the most versatile: 'Page size equals: A4 / A2 / Match to image size. cheers Simon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 14:27:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046864279:10:16527:96".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:27:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046864279:10:16527:96; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:37:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1118180; 5 Mar 2003 11:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qXBZ-0003ys-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:35:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25BYPY03560 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:34:25 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25BYN203546 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:34:23 GMT Received: from [62.64.208.76] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qXA8-000GYA-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:34:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:36:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bce577c1esimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bce577c1esimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03d (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bce577c1esimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk>, Simon Jones wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >> A polite request > > >Polite request, seconded. > > Looks like a band of villagers with burning torches approaching... > > It is wrong as it is, alas this is not the first time the problem has > > been pointed out. I will try to do something, if I release another > > version. > Ahh, while the thought of revision is warm, could you also change the > software not to presume A4 paper size - I don't know about other users, > but I use the prog purely for viewing and processing and never for > printing (I always dump images into OP - better print options). > It gets really frustrating to be forever going File>Page Size>A2 just > to be able to view the entire image - eaither because of its size > (pixels or dpi). > A choice of default may be the most versatile: 'Page size equals: A4 / > A2 / Match to image size. > cheers > Simon Try Icon bar-Menu-Choices. Click the page config icon, it'll bring up the page config window. Change the size to the one you want... [OK] Then [Save] in the main configuration window. Then that'll be the default size. Dave S There are other useful configs in there as well. D. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 14:56:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046875924:10:02752:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:56:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046875924:10:02752:77; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 14:52:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ak1002224; 5 Mar 2003 14:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qZzT-0007eH-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 14:35:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25EXsK04666 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:33:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25EXre04657 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:33:53 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qZxw-0003jr-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 14:33:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:32:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > From: Keith J Baxendale > > >Questions, questions... Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > I can't think of any reason why not. > > > I have had no difficulty printing via a USB port here - Athlon 1800, > WinXP Home I have an Athlon 1700/WinXP Home, system and yesterday successfully downloaded/installed OvPro but cannot print via USB. I have a Brother MFC-590 colour copier/printer/scanner/fax machine which prints/scans normally from other windows programmes. I tried a test document with a few small coloured boxes and a line of text but all I get is a single blank page. Hoping to try with parallel port printer in the next few days. Keith -- Keith J Baxendale **************** SARPC 700 50Mb -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 15:26:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046877540:20:22423:539".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:26:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046877540:20:22423:539; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:19:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ap2025690; 5 Mar 2003 15:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qaOD-0005t9-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:01:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25F00M13744 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:00:00 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25Exx613711 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:00:00 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qaNC-0006d7-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 14:59:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:58:29 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I've just looked... I'm on version 2.70 1st Jan 03. >Didn't realise you updated it. Yes, there'll be another version this week. I'll say when. Firstly because I hope to have made progress with Windows 9X compatibility. Secondly because that thing with USB printing is a bug. So if you're having problems printing from Windows, delete the OEPS applet folder. I'm surprised it works with anything other than a PostScript printer - the bug is that regardless of printer type OP is issuing PS commands to the printer. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 18:54:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046890279:10:07059:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:54:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046890279:10:07059:49; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:51:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id au1005173; 5 Mar 2003 18:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qdng-0006jP-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:39:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25IcFt26987 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:15 GMT Received: from lhuumrelay0.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (lhuumrelay0.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net [62.189.58.10]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25IcEx26983 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:14 GMT Received: from RTV (1Cust162.tnt14.lnd1.gbr.da.uu.net [62.188.4.162]) by lhuumrelay0.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id h25Ic6108223 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:07 GMT Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:34:08 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OvnPro on WinME Message-ID: <4BCE8BA28F%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.61 POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article David Pilling wrote: [snip] > Whilst Adjust+Drag now forces a frame move. ^^^^^^ LOL That'll confuse all those poor Windoze users. ;-) -- I can SPELL, I just can't TYPE! __ __ _ _ _____ | \/ (_) | __ |_ _|____ __ _____ ___ | |\/| | | |/ / | |/ _ \ V V (_- for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:25:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046892148:10:10182:40; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:22:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007884; 5 Mar 2003 19:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qePJ-0003OZ-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:18:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25JHU604127 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:17:30 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25JHUS04124 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:17:30 GMT Received: from [62.64.219.38] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qeOH-0007Ny-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:17:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:18:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bce8fac08dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03d (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Now that my printing problems are sorted I can focus on other aspects. David, there doesn't seem to be any way to control the size or position at which the document opens... At present it opens very, very small, which I find an annoyance. With a Word document for example... The size it is at, when I close it, is the size it's at when I open it another time. The position it occupies on screen when closed, is the position it occupies when re-opened at a later date. This doesn't seem to work with OvPro docs, regardless of the close size, they always re-open at a later date very very small, and not in position. Can this be fixed at sometime in the future please. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 19:44:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046893043:20:04169:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:44:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046893043:20:04169:44; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:37:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003675; 5 Mar 2003 19:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qefd-0005mH-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:35:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25JYI708441 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:34:18 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25JYHv08438 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:34:17 GMT Received: from THOMAS ([80.0.181.39]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030305182653.OPBD24607.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@THOMAS> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:26:53 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2e344$d02370a0$27b50050@THOMAS> From: "Norman Thomas" To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce0f2383dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce507d8ddfs@ukgateway.net> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:27:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > So if you're having problems printing from Windows, delete the OEPS > applet folder. > > I'm surprised it works with anything other than a PostScript printer - > the bug is that regardless of printer type OP is issuing PS commands to > the printer. Yes, I'm looking forward to further upgrades, but you had me worried there. Did I only imagine that I had printed, via USB, to my HP PSC 750? So I tried again and , yes, the print is here in front of me. Norman Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 19:45:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046893179:20:07638:73".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:45:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046893179:20:07638:73; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:39:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2006767; 5 Mar 2003 19:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qefh-0006em-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:35:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25JYPk08481 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:34:25 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25JYNW08463 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:34:23 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qeel-0006LI-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:34:23 +0000 Message-ID: <0NIpzZAbDlZ+Ew+$@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:32:43 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bce8fac08dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bce8fac08dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >This doesn't seem to work with OvPro docs, regardless of the close size, >they always re-open at a later date very very small, and not in position. >Can this be fixed at sometime in the future please. Yes, I'll fix it. Once upon a time I got told off for suggesting such a thing - not RISC OS style guide compliant apparently. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 21:15:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046898648:20:22877:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:15:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046898648:20:22877:50; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:10:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2100494; 5 Mar 2003 21:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qg8m-0005fY-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:09:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25L8ZY01262 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:08:35 GMT Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mail@new-tonge.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25L8ZY01259 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:08:35 GMT Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18qg7t-0006hW-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:08:33 +0000 Received: from zetnet.co.uk (bts-0740.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.228]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4.sec) with SMTP id h25L8SXV026173 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:08:29 GMT Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:34:09 GMT From: Ken Paton To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <7dc912ce4b.KenPaton@kenpaton.zetnet.co.uk> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030224005156.00b84730@mail.which.net> <4bc9b71e3csimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> <9bd195cd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <9bd195cd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <9bd195cd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> John Pettigrew wrote: > In a previous message, Ken Paton wrote: > > > This seems to have been handled in Word, by adjusting the magnification > > factor to ensure that the document fills the available area. > [snip] > > Perhaps you could do something similar with Ovation Pro. > > The problem with this approach in a page-layout program (rather than a word > processor) is that do you change to page width, page height, current-frame > width, current-frame height or something else? It's best, I think, to follow > the current (and RISC OS) convention of leaving magnification alone. I still > think that either turning the pasteboard on or creating a dummy pasteboard > that fills the remainder of the window is the best way to go here. > Certainly, painting the window with a colour other than the page background > :-) > > John Agreed, I had not considered the difference. The pasteboard method would seem the best option, as dividing the spare space on either side of the document would look better than having it all on the same side. -- Ken Paton -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 21:15:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046898648:20:21490:154".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:15:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046898648:20:21490:154; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:10:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023014; 5 Mar 2003 21:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qg8m-0006Sv-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:09:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25L8Bg01176 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:08:11 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg2.saix.net (ctb-mesg2.saix.net [196.25.240.74]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25L8Av01162 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:08:10 GMT Received: from tolkien (bnb54-01-p382.nt.saix.net [155.239.181.126]) by ctb-mesg2.saix.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h25L7twe025326 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:07:59 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <007f01c2e35c$d4811180$0100a8c0@tolkien> From: "Samuel Kock" To: References: <4bce8fac08dfs@ukgateway.net> <0NIpzZAbDlZ+Ew+$@pilling.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:18:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Disposition-Notification-To: "Samuel Kock" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: >> This doesn't seem to work with OvPro docs, regardless of the close >> size, they always re-open at a later date very very small, and not >> in position. Can this be fixed at sometime in the future please. > > Yes, I'll fix it. > > Once upon a time I got told off for suggesting such a thing - not RISC > OS style guide compliant apparently. But this OP is not for RISC OS is it? :) Samuel Kock Pretoria, South Africa Bio: http://go.to/skock/bio.htm -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 21:25:04 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046899300:10:07705:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:25:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046899300:10:07705:70; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:21:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007860; 5 Mar 2003 21:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qgJV-0001Gp-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:20:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25LJfn03630 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:19:41 GMT Received: from javelin.vip.uk.com (javelin.vip.uk.com [62.60.0.98]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25LJfK03623 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:19:41 GMT Received: from modem-101-50-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.50.101] helo=localhost) by javelin.vip.uk.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18qgIY-0004qh-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:19:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?rod=A0a?= To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:04:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] odd spacing of fonts Message-ID: <4bce996e80rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have tried a windows version of OP and it saved OK and loads instantaneously... very impressive! It also loads a document with lots of frames at different angles etc without problem. It is a shock to be reminded how good the RiscOS display of fonts compared with the primitive Windows! What does not work, however, is any display of text in any font. All text is d i s p l a y e d l i k e t h i s with appararent gaps bewteen all the letters. The spacing is the same for all fonts and makes them monospaced so that in every line the characters fall underneath each other l i k e t h i s i t ' s v e r y o d d ! Has this been observed before?.... I confess to not having followed all the previous postings on this topic. -- /\ _ \ |==============| / / / \__\ |===================| | Rodger Davis | /_/ / / / \ | rod@argonet.co.uk | |==============| / \_/\_/ /___) |===================| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 23:07:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046903444:10:29089:89".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:07:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046903444:10:29089:89; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:30:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122430; 5 Mar 2003 22:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qhOZ-0005ys-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:29:51 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25MT2H09023 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:29:02 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25Loj809853 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:50:45 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030305215045.GHVW8575.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:50:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:50:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] odd spacing of fonts To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <4bce996e80rod@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h25MRVP08680 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 05 Mar, roda wrote: > I have tried a windows version of OP and it saved OK > and loads instantaneously... very impressive! It also > loads a document with lots of frames at different angles > etc without problem. It is a shock to be reminded how > good the RiscOS display of fonts compared with the > primitive Windows! > > What does not work, however, is any display of text > in any font. All text is d i s p l a y e d > l i k e t h i s with appararent gaps > bewteen all the letters. The spacing is the same for > all fonts and makes them monospaced so that in every > line the characters fall underneath each other > l i k e t h i s > i t ' s v e r y o d d ! > > Has this been observed before?.... I confess to not > having followed all the previous postings on this topic. You will find it in David's response in the thread OvnPro on WinME - "Turn off Unicode" in one of the Choices or Preferences dialogue boxes, quit and re-load OvationPro. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 23:07:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046903413:20:22048:236".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:07:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046903413:20:22048:236; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:30:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023448; 5 Mar 2003 22:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qhNm-0000Kl-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:29:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25MRX608685 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:27:33 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25LbDS07367 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:37:13 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qgZd-0004VJ-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:37:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:35:47 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] odd spacing of fonts References: <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bce996e80rod@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bce996e80rod@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >l i k e t h i s >i t ' s v e r y o d d ! >Has this been observed before?.... I confess to not Yes, the current version(s) 27 Feb and earlier won't work properly on Win 9X. You can improve matters by using OP Text choices, unticking 'Unicode', save choices, rerun. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 5 23:07:47 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046903799:20:04234:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:07:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046903799:20:04234:44; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:36:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2004163; 5 Mar 2003 22:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qhU7-0006gz-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:35:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h25MYTv10304 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:34:29 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h25MYRE10293 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:34:27 GMT Received: from [62.188.28.41] (helo=62.188.28.41) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qhSw-00070e-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:34:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <4bce8fd634charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk>, Noel Williams wrote: > David > I find DPlingScan a superb application, both for scanning, image processing > and image format conversion. > However, it has one feature which I find really irritating. > The 'Tools' and 'Info' windows (which I choose to display), always first > appear lying on top of the main image viewing window. The first thing I > have to do, before I can view an image fully, is move these two windows > out of the way. > A polite request - is it possible to get DPlngScan to position the > Tools & Info windows in the same way as the 'info palette' for Ov Pro? > i.e. on the OUTSIDE edge of the main image window. > I haven't found a way of getting DPlngScan to open this way. > I for one would much prefer it if these windows appeared on the outside > by default. > as they do on OvPro -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 6 01:37:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046914429:20:05614:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:37:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046914429:20:05614:41; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:33:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005422; 6 Mar 2003 1:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qkFX-0005so-00; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:32:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h261VKI12111 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:31:20 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h261VHK12099 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:31:17 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18qkE8-0002Hs-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:31:16 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:29:59 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bce8fac08dfs@ukgateway.net> <0NIpzZAbDlZ+Ew+$@pilling.demon.co.uk> <007f01c2e35c$d4811180$0100a8c0@tolkien> In-Reply-To: <007f01c2e35c$d4811180$0100a8c0@tolkien> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Ketil Kristiansen > So if you're having problems printing from Windows, delete the OEPS > applet folder. > > I'm surprised it works with anything other than a PostScript printer - > the bug is that regardless of printer type OP is issuing PS commands to > the printer. Well, I'm pretty certain (that's an understatement, by the way) that my Canon S750 does not understand PostScript... yet the small test document I cobbled together late Monday night came out perfectly (basically a bunch of various regular and irregular frames, rotated and overlapping, text and pictures). I seem to recall that it was faster on my RPC-SA than on this 350MHz Pentium 2 PC though... in any case it's great to see and use OP again :-) BTW: The printer is not connected directly, but shared from a different PC. Best regards, -K -- "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 6 13:43:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046957878:10:12461:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:43:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046957878:10:12461:55; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:37:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aq1011465; 6 Mar 2003 13:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18qvTz-0003qX-00; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:32:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h26DUY303907 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:30:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h26DUW503868 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:30:32 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18qvSB-0000my-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:30:32 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:29:10 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <4bcdc3d1ebdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bcdc3d1ebdfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Keith J Baxendale > > > >Questions, questions... Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > > I can't think of any reason why not. > > > > > I have had no difficulty printing via a USB port here - Athlon 1800, > > WinXP Home > I have an Athlon 1700/WinXP Home, system and yesterday successfully > downloaded/installed OvPro but cannot print via USB. I have a Brother > MFC-590 colour copier/printer/scanner/fax machine which prints/scans > normally from other windows programmes. I tried a test document with a > few small coloured boxes and a line of text but all I get is a single > blank page. Hoping to try with parallel port printer in the next few > days. > Keith Sorry to respond to my own posting but after I read Dave Symes effusive response to his success after removing the OEPS applets folder I removed mine and can now print via USB as well. My feelings are probably similar to Dave's even if I don't express it in the same way :-) Personal thanks also to DP for a programme that runs in a Windows environment and that I actually like using. Keith -- Keith J Baxendale **************** SARPC 700 50Mb Rutherglen, Glasgow -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 6 21:24:08 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046985301:10:00425:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:24:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046985301:10:00425:54; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:15:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129145; 6 Mar 2003 21:14 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r0pD-0000Ka-00; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:14:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h26JD9G27007 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:13:09 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h26JD7D26994 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:13:07 GMT Received: from [62.64.172.211] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18r0nZ-0007vV-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:13:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:03:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bcf122c8fdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <4bcdc3d1ebdfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >From: Keith J Baxendale > > > > >Questions, questions... Can OvPro print to the USB port? > > > > I can't think of any reason why not. > > > > > > > I have had no difficulty printing via a USB port here - Athlon 1800, > > > WinXP Home > > I have an Athlon 1700/WinXP Home, system and yesterday successfully > > downloaded/installed OvPro but cannot print via USB. I have a Brother > > MFC-590 colour copier/printer/scanner/fax machine which prints/scans > > normally from other windows programmes. I tried a test document with a > > few small coloured boxes and a line of text but all I get is a single > > blank page. Hoping to try with parallel port printer in the next few > > days. > > Keith > Sorry to respond to my own posting but after I read Dave Symes effusive > response to his success after removing the OEPS applets folder I removed > mine and can now print via USB as well. My feelings are probably similar > to Dave's even if I don't express it in the same way :-) > Personal thanks also to DP for a programme that runs in a Windows > environment and that I actually like using. > Keith An interesting side effect... I did mention in my previous postings about the USB problem, that OvPro printed to the Laser on the printer port okay, with a small issue to be sorted later. That issue has now vanished, and it went right after the OEPS applet was removed. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 6 23:34:13 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1046993318:10:24524:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:34:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1046993318:10:24524:59; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:28:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1120843; 6 Mar 2003 23:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r4l4-0007jy-00; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:26:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h26NPlq28212 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:25:47 GMT Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h26NPhx28200 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:25:43 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.253.76.60]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20030306232536.KNPJ21530.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 23:25:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030306232219.00b7dd20@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 23:23:44 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version In-Reply-To: <4bcf122c8fdfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bcc5abc1adfs@ukgateway.net> <4bcd13d8b1dfs@ukgateway.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20030302235641.00b43ec8@mail.which.net> <4bcd466202dfs@ukgateway.net> <27724fcd4b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <4bcdc3d1ebdfs@ukgateway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > >I did mention in my previous postings about the USB problem, that OvPro >printed to the Laser on the printer port okay, with a small issue to be >sorted later. >That issue has now vanished, and it went right after the OEPS applet was >removed. > >Cheers >Dave S > One is pleased to hear this! -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 7 14:10:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047012952:10:06255:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:10:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047012952:10:06255:42; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 04:55:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1126011; 7 Mar 2003 4:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18r9sb-0005cE-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 04:54:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h274rnS13298 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:53:49 GMT Received: from cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h274rn013295 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:53:49 GMT Received: from modem-1292.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.149.12] helo=localhost) by cmailm4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18r9rf-0000ab-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 04:53:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Jones To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan - Window config Message-ID: <4bced7471dsimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <9c7521ce4b.noel@beinne.freeserve.co.uk> <4bce21bfbcbarry@e-allen.co.uk> <4bce577c1esimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.01b12 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bce655c95dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > Try Icon bar-Menu-Choices. Click the page config icon, it'll bring up the > page config window. > Change the size to the one you want... [OK] Then [Save] in the main > configuration window. > Then that'll be the default size. Ahh yes, it does work - Itried it some time ago withoutsuccess - must hav been operator error! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 7 21:47:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047070223:20:03485:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:47:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047070223:20:03485:74; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:50:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2113827; 7 Mar 2003 20:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rOm2-0000mk-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:48:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h27KmQq25466 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:48:26 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h27KmP425457 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:48:25 GMT Received: from ict-laptop01.mcqueen.uk.net ([81.103.164.167]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030307204822.IQY4489.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@ict-laptop01.mcqueen.uk.net> for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:48:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030307204738.00b17c28@mail.mcqueen.uk.net> X-Sender: mcqueen@mail.mcqueen.uk.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:48:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: Colin McQueen Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version - GIF In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 03:12 05/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>>I suspect windows metafile will have to be added. What other graphics >>Just remembered another one; >>Probably impossible but what about Artworks ? > >No chance. > >I suppose I might do SVG and AW will have SVG export facilities one day. How about TODAY !! (being the 7th.) Hurrah! -- Colin McQueen John 3:16 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 16:44:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047160772:20:23976:131".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:44:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047160772:20:23976:131; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:59:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024623; 8 Mar 2003 21:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18rmLi-0002hP-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:59:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h28Lwun18506 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:58:56 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h28Lwqc18494 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:58:52 GMT Received: from [62.64.171.81] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18rmN1-00004h-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 22:00:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:56:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd029a039dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David, Is is possible on/in the Window version to add to the button bar Sprite pool, as can be done in the RO version? I can't seem to find the ...!OvnResDir.UK.Buttons22 equivalent in the Win version. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 21:54:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047419245:20:06263:87".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:54:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047419245:20:06263:87; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:47:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116350; 11 Mar 2003 21:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sraH-0003ds-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:46:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BLkOE09431 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:46:24 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BLkNJ09428 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:46:23 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18srZn-0002nj-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:46:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:45:13 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bd029a039dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd029a039dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >Is is possible on/in the Window version to add to the button bar Sprite >pool, as can be done in the RO version? >I can't seem to find the ...!OvnResDir.UK.Buttons22 equivalent in the Win >version. Yes... In general Windows programs have their resources bound inside their .exe files. That's where things like Templates have gone. And the main Buttons are there too - pity if you want to delete any of them. However OP for Windows can still load buttons from disc. For example from inside applets. So that is how you would do it. I think there is an applet whose role in life is to provide somewhere to stick extra resources. That should work. Sprite files, have to have a .spr extension. And they have to be Sprite files too, no equivalent available in Windows. BMP's don't support masks, and ICO's are fixed sizes. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 22:34:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047421590:10:18759:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:34:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047421590:10:18759:61; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1108850; 11 Mar 2003 22:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssCQ-0007La-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BMQD817894 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:13 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BMQCU17889 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:12 GMT Received: from [62.64.239.245] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ssCD-000ODF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:26:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:27:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the URL for the Windows Ovation Pro. Could someone enlighten me please. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 22:44:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047422276:20:28986:136".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:44:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047422276:20:28986:136; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028923; 11 Mar 2003 22:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssN4-0001pC-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BMbFT19927 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:15 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BMbFV19924 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:15 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.141]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030311223714.IQTR26467.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:14 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17872C274 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 11 Mar 2003 22:37:10 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:37:09 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 11 Mar, in message <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: >Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the URL >for the Windows Ovation Pro. Just being a bore here :-), but could we have an archive for this mailing list please? Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 22:54:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047423253:20:23779:69".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:54:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047423253:20:23779:69; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:54:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128923; 11 Mar 2003 22:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssdE-0003XU-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:54:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BMrs422640 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:53:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BMrr622637 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:53:53 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ssd7-0000ci-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:53:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Just being a bore here :-), but could we have an archive for this >mailing list please? Stuff is archived at the end of the month on my web site. Continuous archiving as there used to be when Barnet was running the list, don't seem to be available. People rarely used that facility. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 22:54:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047423239:20:23776:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:54:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047423239:20:23776:43; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:53:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125738; 11 Mar 2003 22:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssc1-0003Fp-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BMqIb22407 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:18 GMT Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BMqHA22404 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:18 GMT Received: from user-162.bbd15tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.77.176.162] helo=riscpc) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ssbZ-0004D1-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:52:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' meaning 1 portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a landscape page. Should this work and if so what do I need to do - Printer settings? Dave Williams -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 23:04:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047423411:10:12479:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:04:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047423411:10:12479:53; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1011968; 11 Mar 2003 22:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssfQ-0001fO-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BMuBD22981 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:11 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BMuBT22978 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:11 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030311225611.EMFS27269.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:56:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Tue 11 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the URL > for the Windows Ovation Pro. > > Could someone enlighten me please. http://www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 23:04:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047423775:10:22050:79".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:04:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047423775:10:22050:79; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1022532; 11 Mar 2003 23:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssll-0004O6-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:49 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BN2dC24783 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:39 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BN2dc24779 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:39 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ssla-0009QN-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:01:12 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the URL >for the Windows Ovation Pro. www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe ISTR the version there is the 6th March one. Text now works on W98, but I've got some other W9X problems to fix before I tell anyone about it. It's perhaps time to reveal the first elephant... RISC OS and Windows don't have the same 8 bit (256 code) character set. Most of the characters are the same, but a handful are different. The problem then is how do you go about getting documents produced on one system to look the same on the other? One solution is to stick with the RISC OS character set, but use the Unicode facilities in Windows to render the correct character for each code. Windows NT/ 2K and XP have proper Unicode support. The situation in W9X is a lot more muddled. Yes there is some Unicode support, but the books I've read say it works poorly. Anyway OP for Windows has a button on Text choices 'Unicode' which lets you choose if it will attempt to render text using Unicode or the 8 bit version of the font manager. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 23:14:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047423974:10:27974:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:14:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047423974:10:27974:60; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1028332; 11 Mar 2003 23:06 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ssov-0004fv-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BN62S25538 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:02 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BN62u25534 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:02 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ssor-000IaS-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:06:02 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:04:46 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS >version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' meaning 1 >portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a landscape page. Should >this work and if so what do I need to do - Printer settings? Sorry, doesn't seem to work. Perhaps the problem is the printer doesn't know the printing is sideways, you might be able to set that from Properties (expanded print window), but I need to investigate. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 11 23:24:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047424996:20:07977:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:24:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047424996:20:07977:40; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:23:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006221; 11 Mar 2003 23:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18st45-0004Ep-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:21:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BNLgh29223 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:21:42 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BNLfQ29220 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:21:41 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h2BNLhRT012334 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:21:43 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: Ovation Pro List Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Side by side printing Message-ID: <4bd1bc5885ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121419.00b32bc8@mail.which.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > It sparks a question - can anyone provide a suitable definition line > for the Mimemap file so the dpd file extension is automatically mapped > to OvnPro file type? Better still can David get RISCOS Ltd to include > it in their Mimetype file for the next version of Select (whenever that > may be!)? Yes, I have just added the following line to the top of the application list in MimeMap. .dpd extention files now show as OvnPro files. application/ovationpro OvnPro b27 .dpd Note the Tabs between the entries. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 00:04:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047426992:10:23877:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:04:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047426992:10:23877:39; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:56:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1022358; 11 Mar 2003 23:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18stai-0004D8-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:55:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2BNt5g03608 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:55:05 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2BNt5N03602 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:55:05 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust9.tnt37.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.168.9] with SMTP for id h2BNpl3K019194 (8.12.8/2.00); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:51:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:56:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:52 PM, Dave Williams wrote: > Hi > > I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS > version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' > meaning 1 portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a > landscape page. Should this work and if so what do I need to do - > Printer settings? > > Dave Williams It does work. I tried two printers In OP Pamphlet In Op Print set-up : NO sideways Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages per Sheet -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 00:04:24 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047427403:10:06800:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:04:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047427403:10:06800:44; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:03:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005316; 12 Mar 2003 0:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18sthJ-0004uk-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:02:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C029B05441 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:02:09 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C028Q05438 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:02:08 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.83]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030312000205.XFFM8079.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:02:05 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581852C274 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 11 Mar 2003 23:59:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:59:10 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <9668c0d14b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 11 Mar, in message David Pilling wrote: >>Just being a bore here :-), but could we have an archive for this >>mailing list please? > >Stuff is archived at the end of the month on my web site. Continuous >archiving as there used to be when Barnet was running the list, don't >seem to be available. People rarely used that facility. Ah, I didn't realise. I did have a look through the headers on the message, but there was no note about any archives. You may want to consider adding something. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:05 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047454553:20:22167:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047454553:20:22167:50; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:35:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2021694; 12 Mar 2003 7:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t0lg-0003l5-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:35:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C7YlK24639 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:34:47 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C7Ylt24633 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:34:47 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18t0lC-0009mA-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:34:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:29:39 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> Dave Williams wrote: > I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS > version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' meaning 1 > portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a landscape page. Should > this work and if so what do I need to do - Printer settings? I think you need to set the options in the printer properties area rather than OP's own printing options. -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:08 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047455597:10:02345:297".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047455597:10:02345:297; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:53:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004795; 12 Mar 2003 7:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t12s-00007m-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:53:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C7qx427048 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:52:59 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C7qxl27045 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:52:59 GMT Received: from [62.64.204.136] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18t12i-000Fth-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:52:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Ovation Pro List Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Tue 11 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > > Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the > > URL for the Windows Ovation Pro. > > > > Could someone enlighten me please. > http://www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe Thanks for the replies... I've now used a pen... remember them to write it on a stick note, now attached to the bezel of my monitor. Sad old man or what. ;-) Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047462769:10:04484:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047462769:10:04484:59; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004521; 12 Mar 2003 9:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t2tu-0004Vy-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C9pEw06123 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:14 GMT Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C9pCa06066 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:12 GMT Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18t2tE-0004I7-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:51:12 +0100 Received: from [172.176.204.91] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18t2tE-0007zc-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:51:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:51:12 +0100 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <909cf6d14b.martin@mw-software.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030224005156.00b84730@mail.which.net> <4bc9b71e3csimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> <003701c2dd76$1c2436d0$429474d5@padua> In-Reply-To: <003701c2dd76$1c2436d0$429474d5@padua> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <003701c2dd76$1c2436d0$429474d5@padua> "Tonnie Demarteau" wrote: > ONE problem remains with 'OP4Win + EFF fonts rendered with *Acorn* > Latin1 Encoding' and 'OP4RO with EFF fonts with *EFF* Latin1 Encoding': > the encodings differ for the range of characters 128 ...141. No, this is not a problem because EFF fonts are always rendered with EFF Latin1 Encoding so it is enough to know that a given font is an EFF font and the text typed in this encoding can be rendered correctly on a Unicode system. The problem is that text using the same character codes displays different glyps under RISC OS when rendered using an Acorn Latin1 font (e.g., Homerton in Acorn Latin1 encoding or one of the many fonts with hardwired Acorn Latin1 encoding) as opposed to being rendered using an EFF font. So, a program on a foreign platform has to know which encoding the font has. It would be best to put the encoding information in the document - under RISC OS, there are ways to find out about a font's encoding, but this does not work with all fonts. Obviously, for existing documents, it is too late, so a simple mapping table in OP4Win could do it. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047462813:10:06157:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047462813:10:06157:48; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:53:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1113586; 12 Mar 2003 9:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t2uj-00054u-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C9qh807849 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:43 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C9qhe07838 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:43 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust64.tnt30.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.154.64] with SMTP for id h2C9nDZE020295 (8.12.8/2.02); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:49:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:54:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:56 AM, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:52 PM, > Dave Williams wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS >> version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' >> meaning 1 portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a >> landscape page. Should this work and if so what do I need to do - >> Printer settings? >> >> Dave Williams > > It does work. I tried two printers > In OP Pamphlet > In Op Print set-up : NO sideways > Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages per Sheet It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape. It does NOT work, when the scale is NOT100% 2 A4 pages portrait scaled to 71% on A4 sheet Landscape etc. -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047462916:10:09895:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047462916:10:09895:45; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1007724; 12 Mar 2003 9:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t2tt-0002Ku-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2C9pE706124 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:14 GMT Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2C9pD006102 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:51:13 GMT Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18t2tF-0001n7-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:51:13 +0100 Received: from [172.176.204.91] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18t2tE-0007zc-01 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:51:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:44:36 +0100 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <4bd1b80af3dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > It's perhaps time to reveal the first elephant... > > RISC OS and Windows don't have the same 8 bit (256 code) character set. > > Most of the characters are the same, but a handful are different. The > problem then is how do you go about getting documents produced on one > system to look the same on the other? Obviously, it has to be absolutely clear which notation is used in the document. I remember working with FrameMaker under Windows and Solaris and transferring documents between them worked reasonably well - although one direction definitely worked better than the other. Basically, if you loaded a doc created on the other platform, it substituted all the fonts, but not physically in the document - they were only marked as substituted (you could still see the original foreign platform font name in the dialogue boxes), so it used a subtitute font for display on screen but if the doc was resaved without changing the font, the original font name was retained. > One solution is to stick with the RISC OS character set, but use the > Unicode facilities in Windows to render the correct character for each > code. Windows NT/ 2K and XP have proper Unicode support. The situation > in W9X is a lot more muddled. Yes there is some Unicode support, but the > books I've read say it works poorly. I have just spent some time working on this issue when writing the SVG exporter for ArtWorks, which faces a similar problem. I have Win98SE and for example Adobe's SVGViewer displays Unicode text very well - at least, for standard "language" fonts as opposed to symbol fonts. For example, the symbols in the Dingbats font (for most of which Unicode codes exist) will not obey Unicode numbers but will render in the standard 32...255 range. However, this is not really a problem: If a user wants to transfer a document using a symbol font, he HAS to have the same font on the target system. I suspect the lack of Unicode in the symbol fonts is down to the fonts not supplying the necessary information. The language fonts I have on my system, i.e., the standard TrueType fonts, some TrueType fonts that came with CorelDraw, and Type1 fonts from the EFF Typography CD (with Adobe Type Manager) seem to be happy with SVGViewer and Unicode. So, as far as language fonts are concerned, a perfect mapping is possible as long as the original encoding on the RISC OS side is known. Unfortunately, this already proves to be difficult - even when running under RISC OS with the given fonts installed. Of course, OP4Win only sees the font names, so it is impossible to do anything without additional information. SVGExport does it by having a (user-extensible) FontMap file that specifies the encoding of each font. For each supported encoding, it has a mapping from this encoding to Unicode. Currently, it supports AcornLatin1 and EFFLatin1 only, which covers most fonts. Of course, Acorn Latin1 changed over time and there are conflicting versions of it (due to the RISC OS 4 Euro fiasco), so it cannot be absolutely perfect. So, a similar system could be used in OP4Win - you only need a FontMap file that specifies for each listed RISC OS font which encoding it is based on (and possibly to which Windows font it maps). If a font is not found in the map, it is best to assume that it is based on Acorn Latin1. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 13:41:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047467410:10:22607:227".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:41:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047467410:10:22607:227; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:10:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id au1024375; 12 Mar 2003 11:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18t3uy-0007ok-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:57:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CAuMK09689 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:56:22 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CAuMJ09684 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:56:22 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust58.tnt16.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.126.58] with SMTP for id h2CAr4ZC027949 (8.12.8/2.02); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:53:04 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <001201c2e886$5af73f90$3a7e74d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030224005156.00b84730@mail.which.net> <4bc9b71e3csimon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> <003701c2dd76$1c2436d0$429474d5@padua> <909cf6d14b.martin@mw-software.com> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:51 AM, Martin Wuerthner wrote: > In message <003701c2dd76$1c2436d0$429474d5@padua> > "Tonnie Demarteau" wrote: > >> ONE problem remains with 'OP4Win + EFF fonts rendered with *Acorn* >> Latin1 Encoding' and 'OP4RO with EFF fonts with *EFF* Latin1 >> Encoding': the encodings differ for the range of characters 128 >> ...141. > > No, this is not a problem because EFF fonts are always rendered with > EFF Latin1 Encoding so it is enough to know that a given font is an > EFF font and the text typed in this encoding can be rendered > correctly on a Unicode system. Yes, that is the bottom line: 'it is *enough* to know which Encoding (when the content of that encoding is known) has to be used' > The problem is that text using the same character codes displays > different glyps under RISC OS when rendered using an Acorn Latin1 > font (e.g., Homerton in Acorn Latin1 encoding or one of the many > fonts with hardwired Acorn Latin1 encoding) as opposed to being > rendered using an EFF font. So, a program on a foreign platform has > to know which encoding the font has. Yes, only possible, when more than one Encoding can be choosen or when Unicode (numbers or names) can be used. At present OP4Win supports Acorn Latin_1 only. Also for EFF fonts. Other Windows programs use the Windows ANSI Encoding of the EFF TrueType fonts. And on RISCOS, there is another EFF Latin_1 Encoding. > It would be best to put the encoding information in the document - > under RISC OS, there are ways to find out about a font's encoding, > but this does not work with all fonts. Or with all programs. > Obviously, for existing > documents, it is too late, so a simple mapping table in OP4Win could > do it. There is also a difference between Windows ANSI (256 chars) in TrueTypes and the different RISC OS Encodings ... -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 20:41:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047501481:20:05065:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:41:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047501481:20:05065:59; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:38:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ak2004210; 12 Mar 2003 20:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tCqa-0007E7-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:29:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CKSPD08692 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:28:25 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CKSN208651 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:28:24 GMT Received: from user-505.bbd07wfd.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.79.49.249] helo=riscpc) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18tCpp-0002Ot-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:28:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:28:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 12 Mar, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > >> I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS > >> version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' > >> meaning 1 portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a > >> landscape page. Should this work and if so what do I need to do - > >> Printer settings? > >> > >> Dave Williams > > > > It does work. I tried two printers In OP Pamphlet In Op Print set-up : > > NO sideways Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages per Sheet > It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 > sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape. > It does NOT work, when the scale is NOT100% 2 A4 pages portrait scaled > to 71% on A4 sheet Landscape etc. > -- > Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands I'm afraid I'm still unable to get this to work. My printer (Brother 1250) has an option marked multiple page and I tried 2 in 1. However, all variations have been unsuccessful with either blank pages or text at the wrong size, wrong orientation etc. etc. I've tried sideways on and off, portrait, landscape, scale 100% and I'm running out of paper. Dave Williams -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 21:51:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047505460:20:07135:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:51:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047505460:20:07135:47; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:44:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006996; 12 Mar 2003 21:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tE0k-0000fQ-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:43:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CLh6N10754 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:43:06 GMT Received: from tartarus.telenet-ops.be (tartarus.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CLh5U10719 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:43:05 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 3828ADB936 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:43:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from iyonix (D5763C2E.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.60.46]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F39DB92E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:43:05 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jan De Poorter To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:43:06 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] DPlingScan and SparkFS on Iyonix Message-ID: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> User-Agent: Pluto/3.01g (RISC-OS/5.02) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I just encountered a problem. On an Iyonix with RISC OS 5.02. When I run DPlingScan (version 1.18), I cannot start SparkFS (1.39). SparkFS stops with error message 'Unable to allocate logical address space' The simple solution is to quit DPlingScan and then run SparkFS, but surely we should be able to run both at the same time. Also, the arrows in the menu's, pointing to a sub-menu, are missing in the DPlingScan menu's, but not in the SparkFS menu's. I seem to recall that this has been discussed somewhere (probably the Iyonix list), but can someone remind me if there is a solution ? Jan -- Jan De Poorter Gent - Belgium mailto:jdp@pandora.be -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 22:11:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047506682:10:29256:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047506682:10:29256:43; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:04:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1108057; 12 Mar 2003 22:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEI3-00038Q-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:01:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CM0J208570 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:00:19 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CM0HT08548 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:00:18 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tEGl-0007ug-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:00:15 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:59:01 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlingScan and SparkFS on Iyonix References: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> In-Reply-To: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >When I run DPlingScan (version 1.18), I cannot start SparkFS (1.39). >SparkFS stops with error message > 'Unable to allocate logical address space' When this came up before, it seemed (oh joy) that some other program was the culprit - RComp's email program, needed a line tweeking. >Also, the arrows in the menu's, pointing to a sub-menu, are missing >in the DPlingScan menu's, but not in the SparkFS menu's. >I seem to recall that this has been discussed somewhere (probably the >Iyonix list), but can someone remind me if there is a solution ? AFAIK the status of that is still 'bug in ROS 5', the trouble is that DPSS has its menus in memory, and the memory has the top bit set. You're right of course, given the future direction of RISC OS 5 - big application wimp slots, programs like DPSS and OP should abandon dynamic areas with all the problems of address space exhaustion and go back to using the application wimp slot. I can't muster much enthusiasm for such a project at the moment. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 22:11:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047506685:10:29348:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047506685:10:29348:41; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:04:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1108058; 12 Mar 2003 22:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEI3-00038R-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:01:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CM0bg09187 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:00:37 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CM0aU09182 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:00:37 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030312204111.EINF24160.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:41:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:41:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > Anthony Hilton wrote: > > In on Tue 11 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > > > Sorry to be a bore... something had a misshap here and I've lost the > > > URL for the Windows Ovation Pro. > > > > > > Could someone enlighten me please. > > > http://www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > Thanks for the replies... I've now used a pen... remember them to write it > on a stick note, now attached to the bezel of my monitor. > Sad old man or what. ;-) I hope you don't have too many login IDs and passwords to remember or you'll need a bigger monitor to fit all the Post-Its(TM) round. :-) Well, how else are you expected to remember them? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 22:21:11 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047507442:10:25281:196".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:21:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047507442:10:25281:196; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:17:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1026438; 12 Mar 2003 22:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tERO-0004YB-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CMB5W27831 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:05 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CMB5Q27803 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:11:05 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust216.tnt28.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.150.216] with SMTP for id h2CM7kZC005035 (8.12.8/2.02); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:07:47 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <007401c2e8e4$9d163120$de1075d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:12:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:28 PM, Dave Williams wrote: > On 12 Mar, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: Dave Williams wrote: >>>> I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the >>>> RiscOS version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. Tonnie wrote: >>> It does work. I tried two printers In OP Pamphlet In Op Print >>> set-up : NO sideways Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages >>> per Sheet > >> It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 >> sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape. > >> It does NOT work, when the scale is NOT100% 2 A4 pages portrait >> scaled to 71% on A4 sheet Landscape etc. > I'm afraid I'm still unable to get this to work. My printer (Brother > 1250) has an option marked multiple page and I tried 2 in 1. However, > all variations have been unsuccessful with either blank pages or text > at the wrong size, wrong orientation etc. etc. > I've tried sideways on and off, portrait, landscape, scale 100% and > I'm running out of paper. The printers, which I used were PostScript printers. One of these Brother 1270N. This has also a PCL6 option with the 'Multiple Page' window, that you describe. I tried again with the PCL6 - Multiple page setup. Bottom line is still the same: 2 A5 pages portrait on a landscape A4 are OK, 2 scaled A4 portrait pages on a landscape A4 are wrong. But to get these 2 A5 pages OK, I have to choose 1 Normal and NOT 2 in 1. So in OP: Pamphlet Print set up -->Properties Layout-->Landscape and Advanced --> Document Options-->Layout-->Multiple Page-->Normal or (and that is the same) set Multiple Page Windows to Normal (1). This works with A5 pages, not scaled A4 pages ... And yes, for the other (PostScript) printer drivers I have to select Landscape, 2 A5 pages per sheet. Even for the same printer Brother HL 1270N, when I choose PostScript emulation. Obviously, this varies from printer driver to printer driver ... In all instances, I also can NOT get scaled down A4 in pamphlet mode OK. Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 22:31:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047507957:10:13961:84".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:31:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047507957:10:13961:84; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1014709; 12 Mar 2003 22:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEey-0002KL-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CMP7720194 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:07 GMT Received: from horkos.telenet-ops.be (horkos.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CMP6S20190 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:06 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by horkos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id A8CD983C30 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:25:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from iyonix (D5763C2E.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.60.46]) by horkos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD8A83C6A for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:25:06 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jan De Poorter To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:25:00 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlingScan and SparkFS on Iyonix Message-ID: <4bd23b9fc5jdp@pandora.be> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> User-Agent: Pluto/3.01g (RISC-OS/5.02) POPstar/2.05 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > >When I run DPlingScan (version 1.18), I cannot start SparkFS > >(1.39). SparkFS stops with error message 'Unable to allocate > >logical address space' > When this came up before, it seemed (oh joy) that some other > program was the culprit - RComp's email program, needed a line > tweeking. I'm sorry David, I am using POPstar, Newshound and Pluto. But I have now restarted the machine, and I cannot reproduce the problem. I should have checked further before posting... Jan. -- Jan De Poorter Gent - Belgium mailto:jdp@pandora.be -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 12 22:41:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047508321:10:27147:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:41:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047508321:10:27147:52; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:32:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104426; 12 Mar 2003 22:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tEkb-0007IF-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:31:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2CMUwM30520 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:30:58 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2CMUvA30482 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:30:57 GMT Received: from [62.64.214.149] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18tEmW-0001O2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:33:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: Ovation Pro List Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:31:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Wed 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: [Snip] > > Thanks for the replies... I've now used a pen... remember them to > > write it on a stick note, now attached to the bezel of my monitor. Sad > > old man or what. ;-) > I hope you don't have too many login IDs and passwords to remember or > you'll need a bigger monitor to fit all the Post-Its(TM) round. :-) > Well, how else are you expected to remember them? > Anthony Interestingly enough (or not depending) :-) Having been netting for quite a few years now I've accumulated rather a lot of Login Ids, names and passwords. So much so, I've had to construct a password protected archive to store them in. Hope in my old age I don't forget the password needed to get at my passwords. ;-) Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 13:27:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047543829:10:27905:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:27:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047543829:10:27905:63; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:23:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1110527; 13 Mar 2003 8:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tNzS-0004uB-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:23:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2D8Ma008368 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:22:36 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2D8MZO08359 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:22:35 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.103.22.25]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313082234.YZOG27269.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:22:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:22:29 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlingScan and SparkFS on Iyonix Message-ID: <0e5372d24b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > You're right of course, given the future direction of RISC OS 5 - big > application wimp slots, programs like DPSS and OP should abandon dynamic > areas with all the problems of address space exhaustion and go back to > using the application wimp slot. But aren't ROL taking RO4 in the opposite direction? So, until these two branches of the OS are reconciled, I'd suggest taking no action that requires lots of work :-) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 13:27:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047545980:10:04458:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:27:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047545980:10:04458:43; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:59:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1127229; 13 Mar 2003 8:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tOP8-00088Y-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:49:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2D8nVs13145 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:49:31 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2D8nUc13140 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:49:30 GMT Received: from Medion ([80.7.28.106]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030313084929.KZCE24160.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@Medion> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:49:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c2e93d$5d5343d0$6a1c0750@Medion> From: "John Vanags" To: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:48:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version > On 12 Mar, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > > >> I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the RiscOS > > >> version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. 'Normally' > > >> meaning 1 portrait page instead of 2 pages side by side on a > > >> landscape page. Should this work and if so what do I need to do - > > >> Printer settings? > > >> > > >> Dave Williams > > > > > > It does work. I tried two printers In OP Pamphlet In Op Print set-up : > > > NO sideways Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages per Sheet > > > It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 > > sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape. > > > It does NOT work, when the scale is NOT100% 2 A4 pages portrait scaled > > to 71% on A4 sheet Landscape etc. > > > -- > > Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands > > I'm afraid I'm still unable to get this to work. My printer (Brother 1250) > has an option marked multiple page and I tried 2 in 1. However, all > variations have been unsuccessful with either blank pages or text at the > wrong size, wrong orientation etc. etc. > I've tried sideways on and off, portrait, landscape, scale 100% and I'm > running out of paper. > > Dave Williams I get the same results as Tonnie 'It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape'. I don't waste any paper when using FinePrintPDF which gives a visual representation of the PDF file which can then be viewed with Acrobat. John Vanags > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > > Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 13:27:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047550041:10:13881:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:27:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047550041:10:13881:52; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:07:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115781; 13 Mar 2003 10:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tPQy-0004te-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:55:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2D9sxP28103 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:54:59 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2D9sw628099 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:54:59 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2D9tFE31264 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:55:16 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:50:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Snipped discussions about printing booklets ..... Then John Vanags said :- > I don't waste any paper when using FinePrintPDF which gives a visual > representation of the PDF file which can then be viewed with Acrobat. I was just about to mention fineprint when this came in. I know it's not OvPro specific, but those who don't know about it might find it useful. FinePrint is a pseudo printer that when you print to it, pops up a window with a preview of what is about to be printed. It then lets you fiddle with it. You can do things like printing 1, 2 or 4up, set pamphlet mode, add stationery, delete some of the pages and more. You can then send the result to the printer of your choice. FinePrintPDF does the same only outputs to a PDF file instead of a printer. Both are commercial products and cost money. More info is at http://www.fineprint.com/ On the subject of converting to PDF there is also a shareware program similar to fineprintpdf called pdf995. Info is at http://www.pdf995.com/ Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 13:47:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047563053:20:04435:176".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:47:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047563053:20:04435:176; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:44:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006537; 13 Mar 2003 13:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tSvN-0001ec-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:39:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2DDd7f29458 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:39:07 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2DDd6o29453 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:39:06 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tSvK-0000fI-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:39:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:37:39 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlingScan and SparkFS on Iyonix References: <4bd237c9bajdp@pandora.be> <0e5372d24b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <0e5372d24b.john@xl-cambridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But aren't ROL taking RO4 in the opposite direction? So, until these two >branches of the OS are reconciled, I'd suggest taking no action that >requires lots of work :-) I think there's a program around which intercepts the relevant SWI and so lets you control how much address space each application gets. Anyway, all that is needed is for the authors of that to actually block claiming dynamic areas altogether, things like DPSS will then fall back to using their wimp slot. OP on the other hand works better with two lots of memory - dynamic area and wimp slot. DA's are not a good idea for applications, so being unbiased RISC OS 5 wins this point. But large wimp slots are only viable in a 32 bit environment, so not possible on RISC OS 4. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 13:47:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047562821:20:01747:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:47:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047562821:20:01747:40; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:40:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2001701; 13 Mar 2003 13:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tSsG-0001EM-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:35:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2DDZ4u28080 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:35:04 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2DDZ4l28076 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:35:04 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18tSrP-0007WV-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: <9pz3L$AjiIc+EwkE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:33:23 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> I don't waste any paper when using FinePrintPDF which gives a visual >> representation of the PDF file which can then be viewed with Acrobat. Another approach is to set up to print PostScript to a file, then double click the file and let GView load it via GhostScript. There seem to be various ways of printing to file on Windows, one of them is a fixed file name which you don't have to type in each time or acknowledge (just like on RISC OS) which seems easiest for this application. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 17:07:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047574050:20:17443:350".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:07:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047574050:20:17443:350; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:47:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2114271; 13 Mar 2003 16:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tVk8-0008Jq-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:39:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2DGdCq18617 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:39:12 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2DGdCY18610 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:39:12 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust203.tnt34.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.162.203] with SMTP for id h2DGZqIJ026363 (8.12.8/2.02); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:35:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002b01c2e97f$6af7ac50$cba274d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: References: <9pz3L$AjiIc+EwkE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:07:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:33 PM, David Pilling wrote: >>> I don't waste any paper when using FinePrintPDF which gives a visual >>> representation of the PDF file which can then be viewed with >>> Acrobat. > > Another approach is to set up to print PostScript to a file, then > double click the file and let GView load it via GhostScript. > > There seem to be various ways of printing to file on Windows, one of > them is a fixed file name which you don't have to type in each time or > acknowledge (just like on RISC OS) which seems easiest for this > application. > I agree. After you told me how to achieve that! That is: Creating a new local printer port, where the port name is the file path, e.g. :/psoutput.ps (or any other filename). In Ovation Pro's print menu, you have -obviously- to make 'this' printer the active one. Of course this setup has the same disadvantage as in RISC OS, where every print to file job overwrites the old file. The .ps output can also be loaded straight away in e.g. CorelDraw9 and I guess Adobe Illustrator. Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 13 21:27:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047590264:20:07601:79".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:27:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047590264:20:07601:79; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:17:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007631; 13 Mar 2003 21:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ta4U-0006aS-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:17:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2DLGBX25786 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:16:11 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2DLGA525782 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:16:11 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.100] (helo=62.188.134.100) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ta3c-0006MV-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:16:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Keith Goodier) To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:07:51 +0000 X-Organization: ArgoNet, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.32 for RISC OS 3.50 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Thu 13 Mar 2003 (17:07:12 +0100), tonnie.demarteau@inter.nl.net wrote: >Of course this setup has the same disadvantage as in RISC OS, where >every print to file job overwrites the old file. My standard practice here is to immediately copy the completed print job to another appropriate filename. I usually print off all the files I need in a particular session like this and drop the whole of the resulting group onto the printer while I get on with whatever else needs doing. -- |/ |\eith jake@argonet.co.uk Ormskirk, Lancs. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 13:55:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047637835:20:24483:209".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:55:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047637835:20:24483:209; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:30:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024716; 14 Mar 2003 10:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tmNr-0001t1-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:25:51 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EAPKV05399 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:25:20 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EAPKN05393 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:25:20 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tmNL-0002Om-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:25:19 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:23:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd30139ddJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Keith Goodier wrote: > My standard practice here is to immediately copy the completed print > job to another appropriate filename. It'd be far faster to issue a rename command. I have two obey files that cope with this; brief instructions and the files can be found at: www.omba.demon.co.uk/NxtGen.zip -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 17:55:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047664380:20:01000:329".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:55:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047664380:20:01000:329; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:53:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2025263; 14 Mar 2003 17:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tsaM-0007Cw-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:03:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EH2jk18125 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:45 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EH2jG18122 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:45 GMT Received: from [213.116.54.25] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tsZl-00031N-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:32:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Indexing Message-ID: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist For the past year or so I have been trying very hard to do all my DTP/WP work in OP instead of Impression Publisher. I have been pretty successful so far. But I now need to revise a large document which was authored in Impression Publisher. It is my hope to import it into OP and do the revision there. However, before I start, I want to be confident that after the revision I can do certain essential things - one of which is automatic indexing (a doddle in Impression Publisher). (I will take up a second problem under a different subject heading.) The document already has a style (called, imaginatively I feel, 'Index') applied throughout the unedited version. Editing will change a small proportion of these indexing items but the bulk will remain as now. Using the unedited version imported into OP I have tried to make head or tail out of the !IdxPro applet - but I simply do not understand its main window - and, as its author says, the Help file doesn't - if you see what I mean. I notice that the OP Manual itself uses this applet for its own index - so I assume that it cannot really be a great chore to harness it. (No offence to DP intended!) But it stumps me completely. Can some kindly person give me a clue about how to use it - or point me to another applet? Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression behind me - and as I can't load an OP document into Impression (can I?) I will need to do the revision in Impression also...... surely not? Many thanks. -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 18:15:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047665569:20:17373:440".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:15:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047665569:20:17373:440; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:12:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2022637; 14 Mar 2003 18:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tsaM-0006Yc-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:03:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EH2kX18130 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:46 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EH2k918127 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:46 GMT Received: from [213.116.54.25] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tsZw-00031N-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:02:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:58:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <4bd325612brayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I'm sorry to return to this subject but after trying the !SRWE applet I seem to be no further forward. What I am looking for is a facility to do what can be done in Impression Publisher using a search string like: {stylename}@{stylename} When used in Publisher, the matches are fully highlighted as you step through - which is the norm for all other Find facilities that I know. In !SRWE the style matches are not highlighted at all: the cursor is simply put to the start of the match. Further, stepping to the supposed 'next match' seems to take no account of the fact that the style can be applied to a single selection of text comprising several words - because, in such cases, the 'next match' in !SRWE then merely moves the corsor to the start of the next *word* in the *same* selection. Am I doing something wrong? Am I the only one in the world who finds style-searching invaluable when working with a large document? (As applying a style, in DDL at least, seems to put simple 'add' and 'remove' markers around the text, is it a difficult matter to extend the *normal* OP Find & Replace to search for styles?) -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 19:45:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047671060:10:27649:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:45:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047671060:10:27649:44; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:44:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1103941; 14 Mar 2003 19:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tv66-0008VK-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:44:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EJhix26548 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:43:44 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EJhhB26545 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:43:43 GMT Received: from [213.116.56.107] (helo=wallace) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tv5g-0000xx-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:43:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:47:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre wrote: [Snip] > Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression > behind me - and as I can't load an OP document into Impression > (can I?) I will need to do the revision in Impression > also...... surely not? I'm somewhat baffled by your reluctance to revert to Impression. What facilities for editing your document will be provided by OP that are so much better than those in Impression (apart from the indexing)? Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 21:35:39 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047677205:20:24268:73".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:35:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047677205:20:24268:73; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:26:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024551; 14 Mar 2003 21:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18twh5-0002iy-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:26:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ELPux10598 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:25:56 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ELPtx10595 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:25:55 GMT Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18twgc-000FPH-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:25:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <4bd33d6d21john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 14 Mar, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, > Ray Favre wrote: > [Snip] > > Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression > > behind me - and as I can't load an OP document into Impression > > (can I?) I will need to do the revision in Impression > > also...... surely not? > I'm somewhat baffled by your reluctance to revert to Impression. > What facilities for editing your document will be provided by OP > that are so much better than those in Impression (apart from the > indexing)? Undo? -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 Acorn Publisher magazine & http://www.acornpublisher.com Fleur Designs (boardgames) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 21:35:39 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047677402:20:28777:188".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:35:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047677402:20:28777:188; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:30:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2122496; 14 Mar 2003 21:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18twkM-00019X-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:29:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ELTis11174 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:29:44 GMT Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ELTiq11170 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:29:44 GMT Received: from du-069-0968.access.clara.net ([217.158.170.205] helo=clara.net) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18twkJ-000IIG-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:29:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:29:10 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> you wrote: > I'm somewhat baffled by your reluctance to revert to Impression. > What facilities for editing your document will be provided by OP > that are so much better than those in Impression (apart from the > indexing)? > Killer advantages :- immediate thinking caring personal support undo single page insert/delete in pamphlet mode easy edit frame size/position line drawing continuing development Style management Charles -- RiscOS4 ProCAD+ OPro ROUGOL tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 22:25:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047680232:20:20116:150".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:25:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047680232:20:20116:150; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:17:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2119017; 14 Mar 2003 22:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18txTe-0007Tb-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:16:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EMGUb19298 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:16:30 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EMGUl19292 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:16:30 GMT Received: from [213.116.54.95] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18txTX-0005le-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:16:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:41:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > In article , Anthony Hilton > wrote: > > In on Wed 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: [Snip] > > I hope you don't have too many login IDs and passwords to remember or > > you'll need a bigger monitor to fit all the Post-Its(TM) round. :-) > > Well, how else are you expected to remember them? > Interestingly enough (or not depending) :-) Having been netting for > quite a few years now I've accumulated rather a lot of Login Ids, names > and passwords. So much so, I've had to construct a password protected > archive to store them in. Which leads to the problem of remembering the password to the passwords... > Hope in my old age I don't forget the password needed to get at my > passwords. ;-) Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most (actually all) people I work with don't know. That nickname is the basis for all the passwords, for all the systems (and given that I work in IT there's a fair few) Combined with the O.G of a beer range I despise and subtracted from the serial number of the Enterprise it's all rather easy to figure out. Isn't it? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 23:05:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047682982:20:04535:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:05:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047682982:20:04535:50; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:03:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003717; 14 Mar 2003 23:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tyBg-0003Rp-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:02:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EN23E26398 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:02:03 GMT Received: from black-watch.firstnet.net.uk (vulcan.firstnet.net.uk [212.103.224.244]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h2EN23v26395 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:02:03 GMT Received: (qmail 22939 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 23:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hpbrio) (212.103.240.164) by 10.10.10.7 with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 23:02:15 -0000 From: "Ian ODonnell" To: Subject: RE: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h2EN23v26396 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > -----Original Message----- > From: > [mailto:owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net] On Behalf Of > Steven Pampling > Sent: 14 March 2003 21:42 > To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net > Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version > > > On 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > > In article , > Anthony Hilton > > wrote: > > > In on Wed 12 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > > [Snip] > > > > I hope you don't have too many login IDs and passwords to > remember > > > or you'll need a bigger monitor to fit all the > Post-Its(TM) round. > > > :-) > > > > Well, how else are you expected to remember them? > Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most > (actually all) people I work with don't know. That nickname > is the basis for all the passwords, for all the systems (and > given that I work in IT there's a fair > few) Combined with the O.G of a beer range I despise and > subtracted from the serial number of the Enterprise it's all > rather easy to figure out. > > Isn't it? My method has always been to take a sentence, and use the first letter of each word as my password, if it needs numerals then to use a sentence with numbers in! Worked so far, started in the days when I was system admin as a sixth former and every IT geek kid in the school was trying to guess your password! Ian _ _ _ _ |_|_|_|_| Graphic Solutions for all Media |_|_|_|_| 3 Goode Croft, Tile Hill, |_|_|_|_| Coventry CV4 9RF |_|_|_|_| Tel: 024 76466416 Real Point http://www.realpoint.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 23:05:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047682894:10:00631:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:05:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047682894:10:00631:62; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:01:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000324; 14 Mar 2003 23:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tyAc-0003IP-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:00:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2EMxsa25640 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:59:54 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2EMxrY25637 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:59:53 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030314205417.SFEX20605.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:54:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:54:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles To: OvationPro Mail List In-Reply-To: <4bd325612brayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h2EMxsY25638 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Fri 14 Mar, Ray Favre wrote: > I'm sorry to return to this subject but after trying the !SRWE applet > I seem to be no further forward. > > What I am looking for is a facility to do what can be done in > Impression Publisher using a search string like: > > {stylename}@{stylename} > > When used in Publisher, the matches are fully highlighted as you step > through - which is the norm for all other Find facilities that I know. > > In !SRWE the style matches are not highlighted at all: the cursor is > simply put to the start of the match. What have you put into the Find box? Have you ticked Whole word or Wildcards? And you have selected the search style from the menu list to the right of the Find box haven't you? Sorry to ask what may seem basic questions, but without some idea just what you are doing to get that effect and answers are guesses. > Further, stepping to the supposed 'next match' seems to take no > account of the fact that the style can be applied to a single > selection of text comprising several words - because, in such cases, > the 'next match' in !SRWE then merely moves the corsor to the start > of the next *word* in the *same* selection. > > Am I doing something wrong? Only in so far as you haven't yet learned how it works - obviously quite different from what you are familiar with in Impression. > Am I the only one in the world who finds style-searching invaluable > when working with a large document? I use it to match any base style when replacing with ligatures in an expert font: Find ffl no style Replace Expert characters (this is the EFF Latin1 Expert set encoding) X Case sensitive (X because I dont know if a tick character will get through properly) This works highlighting the match and when Replace Word is clicked the change is made and the next match highlighted. I suggest that: Find \* findstyle Replace \& replacestyle X Wildcards will find and highlight any string which is entirely in findstyle and change the style to replacestyle without changing the characters. Like the standard OPro S&R the Wildcards option must be ticked or the search and replace will be literal - I have seen the same referred to as regular expressions in other places. If this doesn't help please give examples of how you are using it and what you are needing to achieve. > (As applying a style, in DDL at least, seems to put simple 'add' and > 'remove' markers around the text, is it a difficult matter to extend > the *normal* OP Find & Replace to search for styles?) (David, if you are planning this, I think it would be good in the first release of Opro for Windows.) Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 14 23:15:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047683628:10:25829:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:15:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047683628:10:25829:64; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:13:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1026468; 14 Mar 2003 23:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tyMq-0005Jk-00; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:13:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ENDXj27898 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:13:33 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ENDXJ27895 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:13:33 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18tyMj-000FzH-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:13:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:12:23 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles References: <4bd325612brayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >(David, if you are planning this, I think it would be good in the first >release of Opro for Windows.) I'm planning on having printing as the big feature in that... Yes, massive shortcoming. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047735411:10:13312:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047735411:10:13312:48; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1110484; 15 Mar 2003 13:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBpd-0005Mg-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FDa4f01981 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:04 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FDa3n01978 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:03 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.210] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBpR-0007KF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <4bd396b4c5rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk>, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk>, Ray Favre > wrote: > [Snip] > > Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression behind > > me - and as I can't load an OP document into Impression (can I?) > > I will need to do the revision in Impression also...... surely > > not? > I'm somewhat baffled by your reluctance to revert to Impression. > What facilities for editing your document will be provided by OP > that are so much better than those in Impression (apart from the > indexing)? I knew someone would ask that! :-) Simply because my brain finds it less efficient to have to maintain 'recency' on two major bits of software and I would prefer to use solely the one that has active support - not least to be able to ask silly questions of more knowledgeable OP users on this email list. But - as others have already started to say - there are many things that OP does that Publisher does not. But don't let's highjack the thread! As it happens, indexing is a 'show stopper' for me with this particular document. If I can't do it on OP then I will use Publisher for the revision. Which would be a pity as I'm hopeful that !InxPro is only suffering from poor documentation ... If anyone wants to continue the OP vs IP issue, can they start their own thread please? :-) -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047724028:10:17133:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047724028:10:17133:47; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:27:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1016455; 15 Mar 2003 10:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u8s0-0004rB-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:26:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FAPeW02504 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:25:40 GMT Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FAPdU02501 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:25:39 GMT Received: from du-069-0989.access.clara.net ([217.158.170.226] helo=clara.net) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18u8rA-000HEl-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:25:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:17:59 GMT From: charles To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: RE: [softwarelist] passwords (was Re: OP - Windows version) Message-ID: <039284d34b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> In-Reply-To: <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> X-Organization: home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> you wrote: [snip--- snip--- snip--- ] > My method has always been to take a sentence, and use the first letter of > each word as my password, if it needs numerals then to use a sentence with > numbers in! > Ian [snip--- snip--- snip--- ] Must try that. Is there a way of coping with a network password system which requires you to keep changing password every to often, and gives you two weeks advance notice of when change is due, but if you respond immediately to this nag screen, does not give credit for those two weeks? My way is to keep a postit note of 7 passwords stuck to my monitor, and use them by rote. Not high security, but minimum stress. Charles -- RiscOS4 ProCAD+ OPro ROUGOL tel 020 8949 0708 - Mob 079 5620 0176 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047728077:10:01558:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047728077:10:01558:48; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:34:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1000958; 15 Mar 2003 11:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18u9vX-0000CZ-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:34:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FBXZu14039 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:33:35 GMT Received: from rocket.vip.uk.com (rocket.vip.uk.com [62.60.0.97]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FBXZo14035 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:33:35 GMT Received: from modem-128-13-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.13.128] helo=whsmithnet.co.uk) by rocket.vip.uk.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uA8f-0006az-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:47:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ned Abell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd3890da8nedabell@weatherpost.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > > In article , > > Anthony Hilton wrote: > [Snip] > > > I hope you don't have too many login IDs and passwords to > > > remember or you'll need a bigger monitor to fit all the > > > Post-Its(TM) round. :-) > > > Well, how else are you expected to remember them? You could try !Password by John Peachy http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/jpeachey/ ............................which you need a password for :-))) -- besters.. Ned === -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047733232:11:16846:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047733232:11:16846:46; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:00:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115143; 15 Mar 2003 12:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBGG-0002H2-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:59:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FCxcp28045 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:59:38 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FCxba28042 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:59:37 GMT Received: from [213.116.56.109] (helo=wallace) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBGB-0006Jl-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:59:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:44:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk>, charles wrote: > Killer advantages :- > immediate thinking caring personal support > undo > single page insert/delete in pamphlet mode > easy edit frame size/position > line drawing > continuing development > Style management Oh dear, I didn't intend to precipitate a word-processor war :-) I'm not referring to the use of OvPro generally. It just seemed to me that if Ray _wrote_the_original_document_ in Impression, and can easily impose new styles and make a new index in Impression, there must be something in OvPro that I don't know about to make it worth while changing over for the 2nd Edition. As someone who never learned to use OvPro I am genuinely interested to hear what I am missing. Of the things listed so far only Undo comes into that category IMHO, and can be to some extent worked around by frequent auto-saves; pamphlet page insert, frame edit & position, drawing, are all available in Impression (Publisher, anyway) Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047735403:20:00739:96".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047735403:20:00739:96; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2110179; 15 Mar 2003 13:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBpd-00057s-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FDa2001973 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:02 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FDa2O01970 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:02 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.210] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBpP-0007KF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:36:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:21:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <4bd3955d06rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd325612brayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > What have you put into the Find box? Have you ticked Whole word or > Wildcards? And you have selected the search style from the menu > list to the right of the Find box haven't you? > Sorry to ask what may seem basic questions, but without some idea > just what you are doing to get that effect and answers are guesses. Thanks for your response. I am trying to Find *all* instances of a particular style (let's call it "mystyle") in a long document - irrespective of what the text is. (The style definitely *is* used!) I ticked 'wild cards' and entered \* in the Find box (either by typing or auto-entry from its button) and selected the "mystyle" via the RH menu button. I ticked 'All stories' and 'From start' Whenever I click on the 'Find' button I get the message "Wild card search text matches the null string" and things come to a halt. (The window remains. The Find button becomes shaded and clicking Next word just brings up the message again. Replace All does nothing.) Trying exactly what you suggested below gives the same as above. > I suggest that: Find \* findstyle Replace \& replacestyle > > X Wildcards > > will find and highlight any string which is entirely in findstyle > and change the style to replacestyle without changing the > characters. Like the standard OPro S&R the Wildcards option must be > ticked or the search and replace will be literal It is ticked. BUT, using \n or \. or \a as wildcards *do* work as I would expect. i.e. it is only the (critical) \* which is being naughty. Any suggestions? -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047733059:20:09710:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047733059:20:09710:62; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:57:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118340; 15 Mar 2003 12:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBE4-00024Z-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:57:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FCurc27423 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:56:53 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FCuqc27410 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:56:52 GMT Received: from [62.64.200.143] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uBDR-000Ley-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:56:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:44:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling wrote: [Loads of snippy] > > Hope in my old age I don't forget the password needed to get at my > > passwords. ;-) > Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most (actually all) > people I work with don't know. That nickname is the basis for all the > passwords,... Indeedy Steven, a good ploy, close to what I'm using for my password of passwords... I was thinking more in terms of the old brain going off a bit, senility wise. Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 13:57:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047734325:20:06725:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:57:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047734325:20:06725:41; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:18:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005702; 15 Mar 2003 13:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uBXh-0003Sr-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:17:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FDHcl31357 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:17:38 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FDHcp31354 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:17:38 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315131737.DMLB310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:17:37 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:17:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: RE: [softwarelist] passwords (was Re: OP - Windows version) To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <039284d34b.charles@clara.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 15 Mar, charles wrote: > In message <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> you wrote: > > [snip--- snip--- snip--- ] > > > My method has always been to take a sentence, and use the first letter of > > each word as my password, if it needs numerals then to use a sentence > > with numbers in! > > > Ian > > [snip--- snip--- snip--- ] > > Must try that. > > Is there a way of coping with a network password system which requires > you to keep changing password every to often, and gives you two weeks > advance notice of when change is due, but if you respond immediately to > this nag screen, does not give credit for those two weeks? > > My way is to keep a postit note of 7 passwords stuck to my monitor, and > use them by rote. Not high security, but minimum stress. Minimum stress until someone uses it and sends a resignation letter, or worse, in your name! Maybe better security if they are less obviously passwords. A list of commonly mis-spelled words and pairs of similar sounding words with different spellings is obviously -their- there to help you. Conversely an office plastered with posters of eg Wallace and Gromit suggeests an area to try if wanting to crack a password. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 16:47:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047746379:20:28848:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:47:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047746379:20:28848:41; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:39:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028221; 15 Mar 2003 16:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uEgV-0004Fd-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:38:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FGcXU30404 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:38:33 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FGcWB30399 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:38:33 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.133] (helo=argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uEfs-0004Ao-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:38:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: Ovation Pro List Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] passwords (was Re: OP - Windows version) Message-ID: <4bd3a6f3a7rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <039284d34b.charles@clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/5.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Sat 15 Mar, charles wrote: > > In message <000c01c2ea7d$a4197aa0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> you wrote: > > > > [snip--- snip--- snip--- ] > > > > Is there a way of coping with a network password system which > > requires you to keep changing password every to often, and gives > > you two weeks advance notice of when change is due, but if you > > respond immediately to this nag screen, does not give credit for > > those two weeks? Change your password every month, using your favourite secret word plus a suffix based on the month and year. I gather some systems won't even allow this, but they're rapidly going to become either unworkable or insecure as everyone writes their password down, so this is a problem for management. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Mar 15 16:57:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047747380:10:07103:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:57:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047747380:10:07103:43; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:56:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129602; 15 Mar 2003 16:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uEwf-0004C3-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:55:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FGtcd00530 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:55:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FGtcC00527 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:55:38 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18uEwb-0005Ci-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:55:37 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:54:25 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Indexing References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Using the unedited version imported into OP I have tried to make head >or tail out of the !IdxPro applet - but I simply do not understand There is of course another (much simpler) indexing applet by Peter Bond (on the OP CD). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047763364:10:27779:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047763364:10:27779:42; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:22:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1108459; 15 Mar 2003 21:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJ6w-0003ZJ-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:22:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FLLqV27651 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:21:52 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FLLqK27648 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:21:52 GMT Received: from [62.64.162.166] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uJ6B-0007A2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:21:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:18:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd3c11346dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd396f5d1ray@raydawson.com> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd396f5d1ray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bd396f5d1ray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > In article <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net>, > Dave Symes wrote: > > > Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most (actually > > > all) people I work with don't know. That nickname is the basis for > > > all the passwords,... > > Indeedy Steven, a good ploy, close to what I'm using for my password of > > passwords... > There's me thinking your password might be 'grumpy' :-) > Cheers, > Ray D Hi Ray. I see you've been reading my postings... Ah! if only it was that simple. Sorry though, far too many people know me as god (grumpy old dave), to use that one. :-) Dave S But to bring things slightly back on topic... David (Pilling), will there be a Unique Number Applet for the Win Version? Oh yes and a multiple clipboard as well? I have four defined and much used on the RO version. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047766449:10:15722:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047766449:10:15722:41; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:14:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1112578; 15 Mar 2003 22:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJuW-0001hl-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:13:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FMDgQ07216 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:13:42 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FMDfw07210 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:13:41 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030315221341.XSZJ9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:13:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:13:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles To: OvationPro Mail List In-Reply-To: <4bd3955d06rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 15 Mar, Ray Favre wrote: > In article , Anthony > Hilton wrote: > > > What have you put into the Find box? Have you ticked Whole word or > > Wildcards? And you have selected the search style from the menu > > list to the right of the Find box haven't you? > > > Sorry to ask what may seem basic questions, but without some idea > > just what you are doing to get that effect and answers are guesses. > > Thanks for your response. > > I am trying to Find *all* instances of a particular style (let's call > it "mystyle") in a long document - irrespective of what the text is. > (The style definitely *is* used!) > > I ticked 'wild cards' and entered \* in the Find box (either by > typing or auto-entry from its button) and selected the "mystyle" via > the RH menu button. > > I ticked 'All stories' and 'From start' > > Whenever I click on the 'Find' button I get the message "Wild card > search text matches the null string" and things come to a halt. (The > window remains. The Find button becomes shaded and clicking Next word > just brings up the message again. Replace All does nothing.) So the wildcard matches just the style identifier without any text?! Sounds like a minor bug in the applet. > Trying exactly what you suggested below gives the same as above. > > > > I suggest that: Find \* findstyle > > Replace \& replacestyle > > > > X Wildcards > > > > will find and highlight any string which is entirely in findstyle > > and change the style to replacestyle without changing the > > characters. Like the standard OPro S&R the Wildcards option must be > > ticked or the search and replace will be literal > > It is ticked. > > BUT, using \n or \. or \a as wildcards *do* work as I would expect. > i.e. it is only the (critical) \* which is being naughty. > > Any suggestions? A workaround would be to try \.\* to match a string starting with any character. No that doesn't work either (just selects the first character still). I have found that if both find and replace styles affect a paragraph \. for the find and \& for the replace nearly works. The first character of the paragraph is highlighted and when replaced the second character of the paragraph is repeated (even though is was apparently not selected). If the find style is paragraph scope and the replace style is selection scope the first 2 characters of a word are changed to the new style, and the rest of the paragraph is dropped back to Body style (the previously applied paragraph style is removed). I haven't played with a pair of styles where the effect is Selection to see how that would work. Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the authors (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send bug reports somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in the applet). What you are trying is certainly within the aim of the authors according to the help file. I'm using OPro 2.69, don't remember if Ray has said which version he's using. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:25 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047810964:10:02644:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047810964:10:02644:40; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002552; 16 Mar 2003 10:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uVUd-0000Mz-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:51 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GAZ2014685 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:02 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GAZ1k14681 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:01 GMT Received: from [62.188.151.29] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uVTn-0002Fd-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:34:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd3955d06rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Anthony Hilton wrote: > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the > authors (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send > bug reports somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in > the applet). > What you are trying is certainly within the aim of the authors > according to the help file. > I'm using OPro 2.69, don't remember if Ray has said which version > he's using. It's a relief to find that it is not just me! I cannot think of another entry that I could use to Find *any* text with a certain style. As I said in my first email, I am looking to replicate the result provided by using: {stylename}@{stylename} in Impression Publisher. (@ is its wild-card for 'any text') I'm using OP V2.67 on a SARPC with RO4.33 (same problem occurs in RO4.02). -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047819064:10:07830:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047819064:10:07830:60; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:51:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101809; 16 Mar 2003 12:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uXaz-00038P-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:50:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GCnoG00875 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:49:50 GMT Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GCnnr00871 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:49:50 GMT Received: from modem-3991.zebra.dialup.pol.co.uk ([81.76.159.151] helo=riscpc) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18uXaG-0004WI-Mz for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:49:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:48:51 GMT From: Alan Adams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <193816d44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4bd3955d06rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> you wrote: > In article , Anthony > Hilton wrote: > > > > > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the > > authors (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send > > bug reports somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in > > the applet). > > > What you are trying is certainly within the aim of the authors > > according to the help file. > > > I'm using OPro 2.69, don't remember if Ray has said which version > > he's using. > > It's a relief to find that it is not just me! > > I cannot think of another entry that I could use to Find *any* text > with a certain style. As I said in my first email, I am looking to > replicate the result provided by using: > > {stylename}@{stylename} > > in Impression Publisher. (@ is its wild-card for 'any text') Is it possible that the problem is a match to "any or no" text? I'm thinking maybe a style was applied to a text which was subsequently deleted leading the start and end of the style to be at the same place. Result, a null string in that style. > > I'm using OP V2.67 on a SARPC with RO4.33 (same problem occurs in > RO4.02). > -- Alan Adams alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047833193:10:00866:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047833193:10:00866:50; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:46:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123165; 16 Mar 2003 16:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ubGb-0005Kk-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:45:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GGjKF06783 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:45:20 GMT Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GGjJA06778 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:45:20 GMT Received: from du-011-0206.freeuk.com ([212.126.154.206] helo=skiddaw) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ubGA-0002Ir-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:45:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:25:46 GMT From: Steve Fryatt To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk> <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 15 Mar, Brian Carroll wrote in message <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk>: [O-Pro vs. Impression] > Of the things listed so far only Undo comes into that category IMHO, and > can be to some extent worked around by frequent auto-saves; pamphlet > page insert, frame edit & position, drawing, are all available in > Impression (Publisher, anyway) You can't draw lines in Impression Publisher (or you can't in version 4.13 that I have -- I thought this was the last one). -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047840368:10:02354:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047840368:10:02354:41; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:46:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1113091; 16 Mar 2003 18:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ud8B-0000su-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:45:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GIiU128001 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:44:30 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GIiTj27995 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:44:29 GMT Received: from [213.116.50.241] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ud7Q-0008KB-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:44:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:42:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <4bd436998frayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <193816d44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> References: <4bd3955d06rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <193816d44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <193816d44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, Alan Adams wrote: > In message <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> you wrote: > > In article , Anthony > > Hilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the > > > authors (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to > > > send bug reports somewhere else (though I cannot see any > > > addresses in the applet). > > > > > What you are trying is certainly within the aim of the authors > > > according to the help file. > > > > > I'm using OPro 2.69, don't remember if Ray has said which > > > version he's using. > > > > It's a relief to find that it is not just me! > > > > I cannot think of another entry that I could use to Find *any* > > text with a certain style. As I said in my first email, I am > > looking to replicate the result provided by using: > > > > {stylename}@{stylename} > > > > in Impression Publisher. (@ is its wild-card for 'any text') > Is it possible that the problem is a match to "any or no" text? > I'm thinking maybe a style was applied to a text which was > subsequently deleted leading the start and end of the style to be > at the same place. Result, a null string in that style. This, of course, does occur sometimes, but it is no problem in Impression. All that happens then is as you are stepping through the style matches you get a match that doesn't actually show any highlighting - and when you press 'next' again it carries on to the next real match. What I can assure you is that there is no such occurrence in the test document I am using (double checked via the DDL file.) Rightly or wrongly, my interpretation of the error message "Wild card search text matches the null string" is somewhat different. I read the words to mean that there is something unacceptable (to !SRWE) with the Find string of [\* + a style setting] - specifically because it *can* match a null string i.e. not because it actually *is*. However, as I see it, even if there were such an occurrence there is nothing 'wrong' in principle in having a null string with a style. Anyways up, !SRWE isn't providing what I need........ That's life. -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047845340:10:07616:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047845340:10:07616:57; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:09:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006632; 16 Mar 2003 20:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uePm-0007Rk-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:07:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GK4jP12179 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:45 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GK4jG12176 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:45 GMT Received: from [62.188.132.35] (helo=62.188.132.35) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ueN6-0002Q2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:04:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Mr J W Lupton) To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:19:40 +0000 X-Organization: ArgoNet, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.34 for RISC OS 4.33 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] passwords (was Re: OP - Windows version) Message-Id: 2452715.1719404jwlupton@argonet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <4bd3a6f3a7rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sat 15 Mar 2003 (16:33:31 +0000), rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk wrote: > In article , Anthony Hilton > Change your password every month, using your favourite secret word plus > a suffix based on the month and year. > > Regards, > > Richard Partridge. > I do something similar: I have a standard 6 characters, and embed within it the current month number. I aim to change my password on the 1st of the month - although sometimes the network (at work, I mean) forces me to change password on the 31st! Oh, and I put up with the system (W*nd*ws) reminding me several days in advance of password expiry! I have had occasion (once, so far) to change exactly whereabouts within the 6characters to insert the two-digit month number. And no, of course I'm not going to tell you how I chose my 6-character string ;) -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ jwlupton@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047846325:10:00027:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047846325:10:00027:54; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:25:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1029809; 16 Mar 2003 20:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uegl-0003Bs-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:24:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GKOqB16539 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:24:52 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GKOpB16535 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:24:51 GMT Received: from [213.116.50.232] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uegb-000377-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:24:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd3a3426bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 15 Mar, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling > wrote: > [Loads of snippy] > > > Hope in my old age I don't forget the password needed to get at my > > > passwords. ;-) > > Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most (actually > > all) people I work with don't know. That nickname is the basis for all > > the passwords,... > Indeedy Steven, a good ploy, close to what I'm using for my password of > passwords... > I was thinking more in terms of the old brain going off a bit, senility > wise. Ah, for that eventuality I have a neat trick lined up: bung them all in a PDA and password that. If I can't recall the password to the PDA I think it's time to call for a sous chef. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:39 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047897022:11:19302:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047897022:11:19302:44; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:30:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id am1116922; 17 Mar 2003 10:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18url3-0003n3-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HAMFe09927 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:15 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HAME109923 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:14 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2HAMDE07191 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:13 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:22:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Ah, for that eventuality I have a neat trick lined up: bung them all in a > PDA and password that. Be careful using this technique. I have heard that on some PDAs the password just stops you accessing the data on the PDA. If you dump the contents to a PC then the data is all available totally un-encrypted. Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047904209:10:16057:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047904209:10:16057:66; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:30:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1112759; 17 Mar 2003 12:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18utjW-0003jh-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:28:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HCSCm13988 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:28:12 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HCSBK13982 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:28:12 GMT Received: from [62.188.156.49] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18utir-0001Es-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:28:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:16:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Indexing Message-ID: <4bd4971b59rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <35523.195.152.254.85.1047899344.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <35523.195.152.254.85.1047899344.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <35523.195.152.254.85.1047899344.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk>, David Breakwell wrote: > Sigh! I never was any good at writing manuals - I can provide email > support for IdxPro - it does do exactly what you want but due to > its wide range of features can appear complicated. I'll do a deal with you. You get me up and running on !IdxPro and if it does what you say then I'll write 'the Manual' for you - free of course. If you are game perhaps it would be best to take it away from this email-list...... -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047921678:10:18376:105".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047921678:10:18376:105; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:21:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ae1018674; 17 Mar 2003 17:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uyDZ-0001Bo-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:16:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HHFfM18550 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:15:41 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HHFeE18542 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:15:40 GMT Received: from user-2030.bbd13tcl.dsl.pol.co.uk ([81.77.167.238] helo=riscpc) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 18uyD6-0000mg-3p for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:15:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:00:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <007401c2e8e4$9d163120$de1075d5@padua> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <007401c2e8e4$9d163120$de1075d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Thanks to everyone for their help with PC pamphlet printing. I'm still unable to pamphlet print - the menus on my printer don't match the descriptions given and I don't have to time to investigate further. I'll try again when I have more time. In fact I can't print anything atm and all I get is blank sheets whatever I print from OvationPro. Is this a 'feature' of running OvationPro on W98? Dave Williams set the On 12 Mar, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:28 PM, Dave Williams > wrote: > > On 12 Mar, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > Dave Williams wrote: > >>>> I've tried to pamphlet print a document which prints ok on the > >>>> RiscOS version but just prints 'normally' on the PC version. > Tonnie wrote: > >>> It does work. I tried two printers In OP Pamphlet In Op Print set-up > >>> : NO sideways Properties-->Layout tab-->Landscape, 2 pages per Sheet > > > >> It does work, as long as the scale is 100% 2 A5 pages portrait on A4 > >> sheet Lansdcape, or 2 A4 pages portrait on A3 sheet landscape. > > > >> It does NOT work, when the scale is NOT100% 2 A4 pages portrait > >> scaled to 71% on A4 sheet Landscape etc. > > I'm afraid I'm still unable to get this to work. My printer (Brother > > 1250) has an option marked multiple page and I tried 2 in 1. However, > > all variations have been unsuccessful with either blank pages or text > > at the wrong size, wrong orientation etc. etc. I've tried sideways on > > and off, portrait, landscape, scale 100% and I'm running out of paper. > The printers, which I used were PostScript printers. One of these > Brother 1270N. This has also a PCL6 option with the 'Multiple Page' > window, that you describe. > I tried again with the PCL6 - Multiple page setup. > Bottom line is still the same: 2 A5 pages portrait on a landscape A4 are > OK, 2 scaled A4 portrait pages on a landscape A4 are wrong. > But to get these 2 A5 pages OK, I have to choose 1 Normal and NOT 2 in > 1. So in OP: Pamphlet Print set up -->Properties Layout-->Landscape and > Advanced --> Document Options-->Layout-->Multiple Page-->Normal or (and > that is the same) set Multiple Page Windows to Normal (1). > This works with A5 pages, not scaled A4 pages ... > And yes, for the other (PostScript) printer drivers I have to select > Landscape, 2 A5 pages per sheet. Even for the same printer Brother HL > 1270N, when I choose PostScript emulation. Obviously, this varies from > printer driver to printer driver ... > In all instances, I also can NOT get scaled down A4 in pamphlet mode OK. > Tonnie -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047926915:10:05494:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047926915:10:05494:77; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:48:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005250; 17 Mar 2003 18:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uyfV-0008Nz-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:45:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HHitT27025 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:44:55 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HHitI27022 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:44:55 GMT Received: from [212.238.2.84] (helo=waarland.demon.nl) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18uyfN-000F5I-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:44:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:39:21 +0100 (GMT) From: Johan Heuseveldt Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Indexing To: Ray Favre In-Reply-To: <4bd4971b59rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-No-Markup: yes X-Organization: Waarland & Echteweide (Realfieldt), the Netherlands X-Url: X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Platform: RISC OS (Reduced Instruction Set Computer Operating System) X-Platform2: now running RISC OS 4 Select 2 [4.33] X-System: Acorn RiscPC 600 X-Processor: StrongARM 110 on my first RiscPC (RPC1) X-Wishes: RISCOS Ltd succeeding in the continues development of RISC OS X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi Ray, On Mon 17 Mar, Ray Favre wrote: > In article <35523.195.152.254.85.1047899344.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk>, > David Breakwell wrote: [...] > > Sigh! I never was any good at writing manuals - I can provide email > > support for IdxPro - it does do exactly what you want but due to > > its wide range of features can appear complicated. > > I'll do a deal with you. > > You get me up and running on !IdxPro and if it does what you say then > I'll write 'the Manual' for you - free of course. That would be splendid for me as well. I also haven't any clue how to start with 'IdxPro'. So, as a start, if it turnes out to be at least an Idiot's Guide for me, then you have my absolute 'yes please'. Anything better than that will be highly appreciated! You can be sure of that Thanks! [snip] greetings, Johan -- Johan Heuseveldt aka waarland The best place is a Riscy place Smile, they said, life could be worse. So I did, and it was. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047933841:10:12798:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047933841:10:12798:40; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:44:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012690; 17 Mar 2003 20:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v1SR-00035v-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:43:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HKh7020277 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:43:07 GMT Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch ([194.158.229.31]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HKh6I20266 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:43:06 GMT Received: from janvredenburchsmile.ch (pop-zh-12-2-dialup-222.spectraweb.ch [194.230.7.222] (may be forged)) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h2HKV34j019828 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:31:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:15:23 +0100 (GMT) From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Indexing To: OvationPro Mail List In-Reply-To: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: CIC member; Secretariaat St. Van Vredenburch X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Fri 14 Mar, Ray Favre wrote: -snip some- > I notice that the OP Manual itself uses this applet for its own index > - so I assume that it cannot really be a great chore to harness it. You're mistaken, it took me a few days to create the index. The final result was then manually corrected (because of lack of time) and then amended/corrected by DP... > (No offence to DP intended!) But it stumps me completely. I understand. It took me quite some time to understand the logic of the program. With the help of David Breakwell to my manifold questions. > > Can some kindly person give me a clue about how to use it - or point > me to another applet? Yes, one does need a manual. And a very clear and logic mind to use it. The program does not only create an index, but lets you assign styles to certain entries, etc. I'll now do my best to write a manual a.s.a.p. It needs time, a thing not always freely available to me at present. But I do already have a basic idea how to proceed. > Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression behind me > - and as I can't load an OP document into Impression (can I?) ... Yes, you can. As a text file. Then see to it that the pages are correctly lined up. To be honest; not a real solution %-( -snip the rest- Greetings JohnvV -- JM van Vredenburch, CH - 6006 Luzern **new email address** email: janvredenburch@smile.ch . -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047935436:10:08089:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047935436:10:08089:91; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:10:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1008475; 17 Mar 2003 21:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18v1rx-0004OM-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:10:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HLA0928160 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:10:00 GMT Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch ([194.158.229.31]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HL9xF28155 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:09:59 GMT Received: from janvredenburchsmile.ch (tch-ls-2-dialup-202.spectraweb.ch [194.230.225.202]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h2HKvu4j028705 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:57:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:54:57 +0100 (GMT) From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles To: OvationPro Mail List In-Reply-To: <4bd325612brayfavre@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: CIC member; Secretariaat St. Van Vredenburch X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Fri 14 Mar, Ray Favre wrote: -snip some- > Am I the only one in the world who finds style-searching invaluable > when working with a large document? No. As I know from the OvPro manual. Assuming that you do *not* use "Effects" but Styles throughout start by giving the style you are looking for a special colour, or background colour. In the end you can then easily restore the original style. Greetings, JohnvV -- JM van Vredenburch, CH - 6006 Luzern **new email address** email: janvredenburch@smile.ch . -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047986148:10:09543:106".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047986148:10:09543:106; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:15:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1124542; 18 Mar 2003 11:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vF3c-0002zg-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:15:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2IBENe10178 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:14:23 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2IBEMM10170 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:14:22 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.97] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vF2y-0004Fp-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:14:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:05:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles Message-ID: <4bd5146826rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , wrote: > Ok I've had a look at !SRWE and there are a number of things worth > noting. > Let me know how you get on Many thanks for that service. The main problem I raised seems to be solved - thanks. (But, in passing, the new version does *not* seem to define a new macro after following your advised steps in the ReadMe file - and certainly CS-F4 does nothing - nor clicking on the srwe icon on the button bar. It doesn't affect the main point above but I thought I'd mention it.) -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047999125:10:15305:127".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047999125:10:15305:127; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:52:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1112174; 18 Mar 2003 14:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vIM4-00082c-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:46:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2IEjQK10847 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:45:26 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2IEjPE10843 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:45:25 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2IEjSE01009 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:45:28 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:45:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Many thanks for that service. > The main problem I raised seems to be solved - thanks. Good > (But, in passing, the new version does *not* seem to define a new > macro after following your advised steps in the ReadMe file - and > certainly CS-F4 does nothing - nor clicking on the srwe icon on the > button bar. It doesn't affect the main point above but I thought I'd > mention it.) Well nothing has changed in this area. The code that sets up the macro does a check to see if one exists first. So maybe something has already defined a macro for CS-F4. Another thought is that the cursor has to be in a text frame otherwise it just beeps. Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047757518:20:03518:175".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047757518:20:03518:175; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:45:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2111246; 15 Mar 2003 19:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uHYb-0006v7-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:43:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FJgOM06687 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:42:24 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0011.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.14]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FJgMC06680 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:42:22 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h2FJgORT006760 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:42:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:38:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd396f5d1ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net>, Dave Symes wrote: > > Simple system here - I have a nickname (of old) which most (actually > > all) people I work with don't know. That nickname is the basis for > > all the passwords,... > Indeedy Steven, a good ploy, close to what I'm using for my password of > passwords... There's me thinking your password might be 'grumpy' :-) Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047763796:20:00803:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047763796:20:00803:47; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:29:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114420; 15 Mar 2003 21:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJDy-0005mD-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:29:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FLTc628725 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:29:38 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FLTbR28721 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:29:37 GMT Received: from [62.64.162.166] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uJDk-00090N-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:29:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:31:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I knew there was something I meant to ask... I have a macro on my RO version that won't work on the Windows version. It enables me to edit a document and hilight words or sentences in a colour of my choice as I go through the document. I have a Style setup called Hilight. The script is: {string s;int i=0;while(getuserstyle(i++,s,1)) if(s=="Hilight") addstyle(i-1)} Any particular reason why it'll work on the RO version but not the Win version? Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047766754:20:02590:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047766754:20:02590:47; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:19:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2122963; 15 Mar 2003 22:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uJzC-0002Oo-00; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:18:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2FMIam08264 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:18:36 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2FMIab08261 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:18:36 GMT Received: from [62.64.225.180] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18uK1M-0009VJ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:20:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] DPlngScan Message-ID: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Moved a Jpeg2000 (.JP2) (Lossless Jpeg) file from Windows PC to RO machine. Is there anything in the RO world that'll read .JP2 files? And of course what to filetype them? DPlngScan won't, nor will anything else I've got... Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:13:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047810973:20:14107:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:13:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047810973:20:14107:43; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2014007; 16 Mar 2003 10:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uVUc-0007Ya-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GAZ1414679 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:01 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GAYx514666 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:35:00 GMT Received: from [62.188.151.29] (helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uVTl-0002Fd-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:34:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Indexing Message-ID: <4bd408f9a6rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Pluto/3.02f (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Using the unedited version imported into OP I have tried to make > >head or tail out of the !IdxPro applet - but I simply do not > >understand > There is of course another (much simpler) indexing applet by Peter > Bond (on the OP CD). Yes, I had already tried !Index - and it locks up the machine each time. (It is clearly not my week!) I tried it on a 2-chapter, 6-page document using the Index style in 6 places. I have styles called Index and IndexHead (with - as required). When the message appears asking if I want capitalized entries, pressing *either* Yes or No causes the machine to hang, requiring to get out. Examining the !Index directory after recovery reveals just one additional file - a textfile called IndxRecs (presumably one of the temp files mentioned in the Help file). This contains all six items in its own special format. So the applet clearly starts to work OK but hangs somewhere after its first phase. On pressing Yes/No, OP's info palette records progress to the first page containing the style but then goes no further before hanging. I am using OP V2.67 on a SARPC with RO4.33. (The same happens when I revert to RO4.02) (Am I right in saying that *you* managed to undestand how to use !IdxPro?) -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:14:05 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047843738:20:05191:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047843738:20:05191:54; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:42:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2100947; 16 Mar 2003 19:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ue0m-0005Ug-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:41:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GJfTQ07529 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:41:29 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GJfSp07526 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:41:28 GMT Received: from [62.188.137.23] (helo=wallace) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ue0c-0001fR-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:41:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:05:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Indexing Message-ID: <4bd4333829bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> <4bd32f6732bric@argonet.co.uk> <1a2f3ed34b.charles@clara.co.uk> <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 15 Mar, Brian Carroll wrote in message > <4bd38c77abbric@argonet.co.uk>: > [O-Pro vs. Impression] > > Of the things listed so far only Undo comes into that > > category IMHO, and can be to some extent worked around by > > frequent auto-saves; pamphlet page insert, frame edit & > > position, drawing, are all available in Impression > > (Publisher, anyway) > You can't draw lines in Impression Publisher ... No, but Charles said 'line drawing'. There is no problem inserting Draw files which are extraordinarily flexible, so what killer advantage does the native capability in OvPro provide? But I really don't want to nit-pick over this or to hi-jack Ray's thread. :-) > .... (or you can't in version 4.13 that I have -- I thought > this was the last one). That's what I use; I'm pretty sure it is the last one. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:14:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047852328:20:24341:72".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047852328:20:24341:72; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:05:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023864; 16 Mar 2003 22:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ugFM-0000I0-00; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2GM4JS04995 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:19 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2GM4Ig04989 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:18 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030316220418.MANE20605.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:04:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <193816d44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sun 16 Mar, Alan Adams wrote: > In message <4bd409f6a0rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> you wrote: > > > In article , Anthony > > Hilton wrote: > > > > > > > > > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the > > > authors (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send > > > bug reports somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in > > > the applet). > > > > > What you are trying is certainly within the aim of the authors > > > according to the help file. > > > > > I'm using OPro 2.69, don't remember if Ray has said which version > > > he's using. > > > > It's a relief to find that it is not just me! > > > > I cannot think of another entry that I could use to Find *any* text > > with a certain style. As I said in my first email, I am looking to > > replicate the result provided by using: > > > > {stylename}@{stylename} > > > > in Impression Publisher. (@ is its wild-card for 'any text') > > Is it possible that the problem is a match to "any or no" text? > > I'm thinking maybe a style was applied to a text which was subsequently > deleted leading the start and end of the style to be at the same place. > Result, a null string in that style. If you read the report of the testing I did you'll see that something was found and highlighted when the search was \. but the error message was as Ray saw with \* I have just tested again with \a\* and again only the one character is highlighted, changing the style (both paragraph scope) results in the second character being duplicated. For completeness, also SARPC, RO4.33 (Opro 2.69 as mentioned above) > > > > I'm using OP V2.67 on a SARPC with RO4.33 (same problem occurs in > > RO4.02). > > Anyone able to modify the applet to fix it? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Tue Mar 18 18:14:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047857034:20:08815:186".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047857034:20:08815:186; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:23:54 GMT Received: from technetium.cix.co.uk ([194.153.0.53]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2009451; 16 Mar 2003 23:23 GMT Received: (from cix@localhost) by technetium.cix.co.uk (8.11.3/CIX/8.11.2) id h2GNNge20985 for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:23:42 GMT X-Envelope-From: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:23 +0000 (GMT) From:(E J Phillips) Subject: OP for windows To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Cc: ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: ejphillips@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.52.2000, Windows 98 4.10.2222 ( A ) How do I get a copy. Couldn't find it on DP's web site John Phillips. Cumbria in the North West From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:14:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047897242:20:19609:1809".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047897242:20:19609:1809; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:34:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115031; 17 Mar 2003 10:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18uri2-0003Nj-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:19:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HAIeX08945 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:18:40 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HAIcm08940 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:18:39 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2HAIeE06933 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:18:40 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:18:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the authors > (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send bug reports > somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in the applet). Ok I've been listening. It's just not a good time for me to spend too long on this. I'm afraid I'm the one responsible for the addition of wildcard searching, so I guess I should look into this. Although I'm sure it used to work. Although there is nothing stopping anyone else having a tweak ;-) All the code is there in replace in the AResources folder. To some extent though, this may be out my control. The way the search works is to use the builtin bmsearch function to find the string and then checks to see if the style matches. It is bmsearch that is doing all the wildcard stuff, so maybe something has changed here. I will try and have a play with it over the next few days and see if there is anything I can do. Slightly relating to this David :- As I don't have access to a RiskPC here at work I thought I would try running !SRWE on the windows version and it falls over trying to create a window. Presumably this is all to do with the lack of templates. Have you developed a "releasable" way round this yet? Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:14:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047900485:20:22823:858".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047900485:20:22823:858; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:28:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2026211; 17 Mar 2003 11:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18usUR-0007wq-00; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2HB95W24040 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:05 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2HB95g24036 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:05 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18usUK-00064N-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:04 +0000 Received: from 195.152.254.85 (WebMail authenticated user bb07) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:04 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <35523.195.152.254.85.1047899344.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:09:04 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Indexing From: "David Breakwell" To: In-Reply-To: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd32302b8rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: WebMail (version 3.21 ß) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > For the past year or so I have been trying very hard to do all my > DTP/WP work in OP instead of Impression Publisher. I have been pretty > successful so far. > > But I now need to revise a large document which was authored in > Impression Publisher. It is my hope to import it into OP and do the > revision there. > > However, before I start, I want to be confident that after the > revision I can do certain essential things - one of which is > automatic indexing (a doddle in Impression Publisher). (I will take up > a second problem under a different subject heading.) > > The document already has a style (called, imaginatively I feel, > 'Index') applied throughout the unedited version. Editing will change a > small proportion of these indexing items but the bulk will remain as > now. > > Using the unedited version imported into OP I have tried to make head > or tail out of the !IdxPro applet - but I simply do not understand its > main window - and, as its author says, the Help file doesn't - if you > see what I mean. > > I notice that the OP Manual itself uses this applet for its own index - > so I assume that it cannot really be a great chore to harness it. (No > offence to DP intended!) But it stumps me completely. > > Can some kindly person give me a clue about how to use it - or point me > to another applet? > > Without easy indexing I will not be able to put Impression behind me - > and as I can't load an OP document into Impression (can I?) I will need > to do the revision in Impression also...... surely not? > > Many thanks. > Sigh! I never was any good at writing manuals - I can provide email support for IdxPro - it does do exactly what you want but due to its wide range of features can appear complicated. David -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 18:14:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1047981669:20:07635:290".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:14:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1047981669:20:07635:290; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:01:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2108677; 18 Mar 2003 9:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vDqa-0006Kk-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:57:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2I9upM21860 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:56:51 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@ns1.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3] (may be forged)) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2I9upG21855 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:56:51 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2I9uqE15195 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:56:52 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:56:41 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 0036A06C80256CED_=" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist --=_mixed 0036A06C80256CED_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok I've had a look at !SRWE and there are a number of things worth noting. First searching for \* seems to be a problem. It is the underlying bmsearch function that is complaining. I suppose it is reasonable to object the searching for a zero length string. I could trap this in the !SRWE code, but I don't have time right now and I'm not sure it is worth it. Searching for \.\* seems to work except for the bug previously mentioned where it replaces an extra letter. I have fixed this (I hope :-) Something I hadn't realised is that the replace string was only being read at the time you press the Find button. This meant if you had left it empty, doing the replace would just delete what had been found. I've now changed this. So, as the file is only 7.5K I have attached a new version (sorry to all those not interested. If there are objections I promise not to do it again). This version fixes the extra character and lets you change both the search and replace string between finds. 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owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >As I don't have access to a RiskPC here at work I thought >I would try running !SRWE on the windows version and it >falls over trying to create a window. Presumably this >is all to do with the lack of templates. Have you developed >a "releasable" way round this yet? It's like this... (1) a command line program that takes a RISC OS template file and turns it into a Visual C .rc file. (2) take your .rc file and compile it into a DLL. This is a trivial DLL just contains resources and no code. (3) it works... well most things will, but there are some minor differences in window handling. The point is that you need MS Visual C++. There may be other paths though. I'll put the command line program and some examples on the web site. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 20:42:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048019832:10:03579:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:42:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048019832:10:03579:42; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:37:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004193; 18 Mar 2003 20:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vMjA-0006zH-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:26:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2IJQ0g04629 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:26:00 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2IJQ0304625 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:26:00 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vMik-0005XP-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:25:58 +0000 Received: from 1cust8.tnt17.lnd4.gbr.da.uu.net ([62.188.146.8]) (WebMail authenticated user bb07) by email.argonet.co.uk with HTTP; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:25:58 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1063.62.188.146.8.1048015558.squirrel@email.argonet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:25:58 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles From: "David Breakwell" To: In-Reply-To: <4bd5146826rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd5146826rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: WebMail (version 3.21 ß) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > In article > , > wrote: >> Ok I've had a look at !SRWE and there are a number of things worth >> noting. > > > >> Let me know how you get on > > Many thanks for that service. > > The main problem I raised seems to be solved - thanks. > > (But, in passing, the new version does *not* seem to define a new > macro after following your advised steps in the ReadMe file - and > certainly CS-F4 does nothing - nor clicking on the srwe icon on the > button bar. It doesn't affect the main point above but I thought I'd > mention it.) > Check the IdxPro options menu as IdxPro as default uses this key combo to bring up the review window- you can enter a different key or leave the entry blank. You'll then need to restart OP for the option to take effect -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 21:22:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048022189:10:26128:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:22:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048022189:10:26128:53; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:16:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1117957; 18 Mar 2003 21:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vORQ-0007Cb-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:16:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ILFiw29172 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:15:44 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ILFhE29168 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:15:43 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18vOQx-0004tv-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:15:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:14:22 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version References: <4bd1ebd78bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd23c334bdfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd33f514fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bd38c85f7dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd396f5d1ray@raydawson.com> <4bd3c11346dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd3c11346dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But to bring things slightly back on topic... >David (Pilling), will there be a Unique Number Applet for the Win Version? Yes. > >Oh yes and a multiple clipboard as well? I have four defined and much >used on the RO version. I guess so. I've just got the Windows clipboard working. Although of course in what you've got the clipboard works within OP just as it does on RISC OS. What you lack I'd guess is the applet that makes multiple clipboards usable. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 21:22:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048022407:10:03784:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:22:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048022407:10:03784:42; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:20:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1126620; 18 Mar 2003 21:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vOUG-0007hR-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:19:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ILJ6Q29904 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:19:06 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ILJ6v29901 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:19:06 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18vOUD-0000UP-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:19:06 +0000 Message-ID: <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:17:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Is there anything in the RO world that'll read .JP2 files? >And of course what to filetype them? A couple of years back, I ported 'jasper' (open source JPEG 2000 project). So crummy was the port that I uploaded it to www.arcade.demon.co.uk where no one would see it. No idea if others have done the same with newer versions. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 21:33:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048022876:10:19436:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:33:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048022876:10:19436:57; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:27:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018673; 18 Mar 2003 21:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vOc8-0004Rp-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:27:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ILRCV31810 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:27:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ILRCf31806 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:27:12 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18vOc3-0006hi-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:27:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:25:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] DPlngScan References: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >A couple of years back, I ported 'jasper' (open source JPEG 2000 >project). So crummy was the port that I uploaded it to >www.arcade.demon.co.uk where no one would see it. And if I added it to my area on there it will be gone now. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 21:53:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048024022:20:01927:86".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:53:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048024022:20:01927:86; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:47:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2002570; 18 Mar 2003 21:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vOuU-0007gy-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:46:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2ILk8Y03784 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:46:08 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2ILk8O03779 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:46:08 GMT Received: from [62.64.238.190] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18vOwf-000PKk-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:48:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:48:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >A couple of years back, I ported 'jasper' (open source JPEG 2000 > >project). So crummy was the port that I uploaded it to > >www.arcade.demon.co.uk where no one would see it. > And if I added it to my area on there it will be gone now. Ah well! RO stuffs another idea I had. D. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 18 22:53:03 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048027735:20:16762:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:53:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048027735:20:16762:50; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:48:55 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2108145; 18 Mar 2003 22:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vPsf-0007Ox-00; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:48:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2IMkwP15923 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:46:58 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2IMkvK15918 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:46:57 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030318224656.ESMA11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:46:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:46:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Mon 17 Mar, Andy.Ling@quantel.com wrote: > > Seems the applet could do with some tweaking - is either of the authors > > (Stephen Brown and Andy Ling) here or do we need to send bug reports > > somewhere else (though I cannot see any addresses in the applet). > > Ok I've been listening. It's just not a good time for me > to spend too long on this. > > I'm afraid I'm the one responsible for the addition of > wildcard searching, so I guess I should look into this. > Although I'm sure it used to work. Although there is > nothing stopping anyone else having a tweak ;-) All > the code is there in replace in the AResources folder. > > To some extent though, this may be out my control. The > way the search works is to use the builtin bmsearch > function to find the string and then checks to see > if the style matches. It is bmsearch that is doing > all the wildcard stuff, so maybe something has > changed here. For some (probably illogical) reason I'd thought you'd search for the style first then the string to match wihin the style on/off markers. But of course this couldn't work for "no style" searches. The layout of the window does suggest the order as you described - string first then style. > I will try and have a play with it over the next > few days and see if there is anything I can do. And within 24 hours you've poosted a fixed version - WOW. This community never fails to surprise me with the dedication to helpfullness of its members. Actually searching for \.\* seems to ignore the \* and simply match the first character in the selected style. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:16:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048044433:10:06409:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:16:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048044433:10:06409:51; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:27:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1110265; 19 Mar 2003 3:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vUDP-0003Yc-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:26:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2J3Pbk23182 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:25:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2J3PbV23179 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:25:37 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18vUCu-000JQx-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:25:37 +0000 Message-ID: <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:24:22 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <000d01c2e829$f98c2650$09a874d5@padua> <001e01c2e87d$76b86ff0$409a74d5@padua> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <007401c2e8e4$9d163120$de1075d5@padua> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I've just uploaded the 14th March version of OP for Windows to http://www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe I hope this works better on W9X than previous versions. There are bug fixes and some new stuff (the Win clipboard works). No fixes on printing though. However no startling changes from previous versions. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:16:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048060677:20:29666:133".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:16:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048060677:20:29666:133; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:57:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120977; 19 Mar 2003 7:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vYS0-0000bH-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:57:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2J7ufP17244 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:56:41 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2J7uel17239 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:56:40 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([80.6.101.114]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030319075639.WTER6166.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@RiscPC> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:56:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:56:41 GMT From: Pete Bready To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <7bfa86d54b.pbready@ntlworld.com> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > > There are bug fixes and some new stuff (the Win clipboard works). No > fixes on printing though. However no startling changes from previous > versions. > > Thanks for the upgrade - in terms of the use of the Windows clipboard, will you be extending this to a 'Paste Special' that eventually might allow the pasting into OP of formatted RTF text? Cheers -- Pete Bready pbready@ntlworld.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:16:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048066690:20:08584:99".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:16:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048066690:20:08584:99; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:38:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2110628; 19 Mar 2003 9:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vZz5-0001yA-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2J9ZG304861 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:16 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2J9ZGq04857 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:16 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.73.84]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030319093515.DMKX11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:35:09 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > I've just uploaded the 14th March version of OP for Windows to > > http://www.davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > I hope this works better on W9X than previous versions. Not only Win9x but also wine on linux :-) Yes, OvPro now works in linux! There are a few problems, some of which might reflect problems that are nonexistent or just less visible on Windows systems: When starting the program, I get the error OvationPro Error:Unknown identifier csspotname at line 33 in C:\Program Files\DavidPilling\OvationPro\Applets\ColSupp\Library\!PSCode.csc Problem with toolbars disappearing when dragging window (reappear when window resized) Menus sometimes appearing in bottom-right of screen, when toolbars have disappeared; once the toolbars have been restored by resizing the window, the menus are correctly drawn. Sundry errors: File not found (TrasckPopupMenuEx) (2) when clicking in window after calling up font menu from toolbar File not found (TrasckPopupMenuEx) (6) when clicking in window after calling up align menu from format dialogue box Many thanks for all the hard work, David! John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:16:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048073897:20:14636:224".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:16:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048073897:20:14636:224; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:38:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2017668; 19 Mar 2003 11:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vbgO-00007B-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:24:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JBO1L02402 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:24:01 GMT Received: from ctb-mesg4.saix.net (ctb-mesg4.saix.net [196.25.240.76]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JBO0Y02393 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:24:00 GMT Received: from tolkien (bnb54-01-p288.nt.saix.net [155.239.181.32]) by ctb-mesg4.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E5EF7CF1 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:23:50 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <001301c2ee0b$98f243a0$0100a8c0@tolkien> From: "Samuel Kock" To: "David Pilling softwarelist" Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation PRo - Windows version Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:34:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Disposition-Notification-To: "Samuel Kock" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi there Just got the new Windows version of Ovation Pro, and it looks good, but the toolbars still disappear. For example, I loaded the program, maximised the window and restored it again to its original size, and the info palette disappeared! The toolbar was still there, though... Maybe an option should be on the view menu saying show/hide toolbar and show/hide info palette? Thanks, but it it is looking great otherwise! Samuel -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:55:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048085183:10:26413:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:55:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048085183:10:26413:85; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:46:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ah1026290; 19 Mar 2003 14:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vegD-0006NL-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:36:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JEaUW03267 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:36:30 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JEaTr03264 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:36:29 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18veg9-000Dav-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:36:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:34:54 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... >Error:Unknown identifier csspotname at line 33 in >C:\Program Files\DavidPilling\OvationPro\Applets\ColSupp\Library\!PSCode.csc That sounds like one of the script files is not being loaded. Oddly enough there was an episode just like the above with a RISC OS user who had his copy of OP on a Linux file system. The trouble is files not being listed in alpha order on non-RISC OS file systems. That problem should be sorted anyway. I'll go have a look. Obviously there are other possibilities like a missing file or some sort of corruption of it or its attributes. >File not found (TrasckPopupMenuEx) (2) >when clicking in window after calling up font menu from toolbar Hmm. Probably some sort of variation in that function compared with real Windows. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 14:56:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048085197:10:26380:107".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:56:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048085197:10:26380:107; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:46:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1026290; 19 Mar 2003 14:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vebj-0005lP-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:31:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JEV5H01624 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:31:05 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JEV5701617 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:31:05 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18veau-0006nk-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:31:05 +0000 Message-ID: <4WhGkPBg7He+Ewni@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:29:52 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <7bfa86d54b.pbready@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <7bfa86d54b.pbready@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Thanks for the upgrade - in terms of the use of the Windows clipboard, will >you be extending this to a 'Paste Special' that eventually might allow the >pasting into OP of formatted RTF text? Perhaps. There's a lot of scope with the clipboard, for example it is perfectly reasonable for sprites to be copied to the clipboard as Win BMP data. I'm sure that will come. RTF will have to wait until I do a new RTF convertor - just like 32 bit RISC OS. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 15:05:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048085940:20:18325:351".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:05:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048085940:20:18325:351; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:59:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2103948; 19 Mar 2003 14:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vewp-0000kT-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:53:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JErdu07791 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:53:39 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JErce07785 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:53:38 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.73.84]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030319145337.ITXG310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:53:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:53:28 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! > > But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... :-) LOL > >File not found (TrackPopupMenuEx) (2) > >when clicking in window after calling up font menu from toolbar > > Hmm. Probably some sort of variation in that function compared with real > Windows. It looks like an OvPro error rather than a system error (the error box has OvationPro in the title). If it helps, the number depends on where I click to dismiss the menu - if I click in the document window, it's 2 and if I click in the dialogue box or outside the OvPro window (e.g. on the desktop), it's a 6. The message is only produced when dismissing menus called from popup menu buttons, not from the drop-down menus at the top of the window. However, it does seem to be consistent when dismissing such menus by clicking outside the menu. John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 19:25:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048101584:20:28061:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:25:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048101584:20:28061:46; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:19:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027768; 19 Mar 2003 19:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vj5R-000754-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:18:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JJI2J23721 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:18:02 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JJI1q23718 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:18:01 GMT Received: from [213.116.60.163] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vj4X-0005zD-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:17:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd5552163steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 17 Mar, wrote: > > Ah, for that eventuality I have a neat trick lined up: bung them all > > in a PDA and password that. > Be careful using this technique. I have heard that on some PDAs > the password just stops you accessing the data on the PDA. If you > dump the contents to a PC then the data is all available totally > un-encrypted. Ah well it would be a quick move to the "sous chef" option then:- no artificial additives so just the leftovers on view. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 19 22:05:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048111423:20:00583:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:05:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048111423:20:00583:53; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:03:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2029989; 19 Mar 2003 22:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vle9-0007Wv-00; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:02:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2JM2IJ00696 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:02:18 GMT Received: from prserv.net (out4.prserv.net [32.97.166.34]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2JM2Gn00686 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:02:17 GMT Received: from jacorn.attglobal.net (slip139-92-117-178.mad.es.prserv.net[139.92.117.178]) by prserv.net (out4) with SMTP id <2003031922020320403l5kqqe>; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:02:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:11:19 +0100 From: James K White To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <543ccad54b.jacorn@jacorn.attglobal.net> References: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> X-Organization: Spanish OakSeeds User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.50 (MsgServe/1.50) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> Dave Symes wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >A couple of years back, I ported 'jasper' (open source JPEG 2000 > > >project). So crummy was the port that I uploaded it to > > >www.arcade.demon.co.uk where no one would see it. > Ah well! RO stuffs another idea I had. Have you tried viewing the jpegs in Oregano2? and what about trying the author of the J-series? it would be interesting to see what he says -- JW Mallorca -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048165089:20:12240:797".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048165089:20:12240:797; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:58:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116448; 20 Mar 2003 12:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vzNu-0007Y9-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:43:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KCgZ711571 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:42:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KCgZe11566 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:42:35 GMT Received: from lowrys.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.208] helo=Ralph) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18vzNR-0000eD-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:42:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Lowry To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd624fb76ian@lowrys.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: [Snip] > > http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > > > now works on W95. > The time of this interesting note is ntoed at 03;20 on 20.4.2003. > Wow! Interesting because DP obviously works through the night? Or is it because he seems to be posting from the future? Can he tell whether the Omega has been delivered yet? ;-) Ian -- Death is the full stop at the end of a life sentence. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048130604:10:24166:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048130604:10:24166:42; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:23:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1024060; 20 Mar 2003 3:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vqe4-000292-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:23:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2K3MZC14786 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:22:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2K3MYd14782 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:22:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18vqdW-0005kK-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:22:34 +0000 Message-ID: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 03:20:54 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! >> But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... OK, at the cost of removing the filters the version at http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe now works on W95. It also fixes the problem with applets/scripts etc. running in the wrong order. In passing I notice the screen display in XP (DVI monitor/video card, clear type enabled) is a lot better than '95 - so you don't really want it work with '95 do you. In fact with all that technology the display is almost as good as on the Acorn ;-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048157110:10:15963:269".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048157110:10:15963:269; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:45:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122402; 20 Mar 2003 10:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vxVz-0000mL-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:43:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KAg6r10098 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:42:06 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KAg5G10094 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:42:05 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2KAg5E06945 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:42:06 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:31:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > For some (probably illogical) reason I'd thought you'd search for the style > first then the string to match wihin the style on/off markers. It's all down to what functions are available to the applet. There is a way of searching the text for a string using bmsearch, but not a way of searching for a style. So having found the text you then have to "read" the style at that point and compare it with what you want. If there were other functions you may do it a different way. >> I will try and have a play with it over the next >> few days and see if there is anything I can do. > And within 24 hours you've poosted a fixed version - WOW. You're lucky it was a quick fix ;-) > Actually searching for \.\* seems to ignore the \* and simply match the first > character in the selected style. What you are searching for is a single character followed by zero or more other characters, which boils down to a single character. I'm not sure if it makes a difference if you have word mode turned on. Arguably if you only use \. it should only find single character words, but this is down to the builtin bmsearch function and outside my control. Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048158548:10:07318:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048158548:10:07318:64; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:09:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1006086; 20 Mar 2003 11:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vxkT-00031F-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:58:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KAvfc13960 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:57:41 GMT Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (root@ns1.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KAveG13954 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:57:40 GMT Received: from websrv.quantel.com ([195.12.20.34]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2KAvgE07866 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:57:42 GMT To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Finding Styles MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:48:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > The point is that you need MS Visual C++. OK got that. Although I'm surprised your not using gcc and mingw ;-) > There may be other paths though. gcc & mingw ;-) > I'll put the command line program and some examples on the web > site. And that would be where ? No hurry, I don't really have the time, but it's fun to fiddle with this sort of diversion. Andy Ling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048162973:10:25485:93".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048162973:10:25485:93; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:22:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1127164; 20 Mar 2003 12:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vz27-00030U-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:20:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KCJ8U04623 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:19:08 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KCJ7T04613 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:19:07 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=dormant) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18vz0l-0002an-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:19:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:18:25 GMT From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > >> >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! > >> But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... > > OK, at the cost of removing the filters the version at > > http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > now works on W95. The time of this interesting note is ntoed at 03;20 on 20.4.2003. Wow! -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 13:34:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048166437:10:16752:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:34:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048166437:10:16752:74; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:20:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id af1015412; 20 Mar 2003 13:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18vzgm-0003OH-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:02:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KD22C17492 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:02:02 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KD22w17487 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:02:02 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=dormant) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18vzgH-000Av9-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:02:01 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:01:14 GMT From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <55b226d64b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bd624fb76ian@lowrys.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd624fb76ian@lowrys.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bd624fb76ian@lowrys.demon.co.uk> Ian Lowry wrote: > In article , > Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > > [Snip] > > > > http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > > > > > now works on W95. > > > The time of this interesting note is noted at 03:20 on 20.4.2003. > > Wow! > > Interesting because DP obviously works through the night? Interesting because he works through the night on our behalfs. > Or is it because he seems to be posting from the future? Can he tell > whether the Omega has been delivered yet? ;-) Can Mr Atkins? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 14:14:38 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048169319:20:11117:1050".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:14:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048169319:20:11117:1050; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:08:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ah2100829; 20 Mar 2003 14:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w0PJ-0003WN-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:48:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KDlB331300 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:47:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KDlAE31294 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:47:11 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18w0Ny-00004i-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:47:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:47:01 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <91e32ad64b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > >> >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! > >> But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... > > OK, at the cost of removing the filters the version at > > http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > now works on W95. > > It also fixes the problem with applets/scripts etc. running in the wrong > order. Have you disabled/removed the Impression loader ? Could you also consider the ability to load ,b27 ,aff etc. extension files as used by Lanman98/FS2. It simply means old Acorn files can be dumped via network and loaded into PC OPro with no need to rename to "proper" . extension. And/or used on Acorn version at same time. -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 15:04:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048172328:10:27884:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:04:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048172328:10:27884:45; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:58:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ae1118895; 20 Mar 2003 14:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w1QM-0007OC-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:53:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KEqiB18945 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:52:44 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KEqi218936 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:52:44 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18w1PP-000LHz-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:52:44 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:51:29 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <91e32ad64b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <91e32ad64b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Have you disabled/removed the Impression loader ? Yes, that's what I meant by "at the cost of removing the filters". 4MB is obviously a critical value for something in W95, the total package size being carried by the installer seems to have just crossed that value. >Could you also consider the ability to load ,b27 ,aff etc. extension >files as used by Lanman98/FS2. Done that. Help Topics in OP for Windows tells you all about file extensions and some other relevant bits. >It simply means old Acorn files can be dumped via network and loaded >into PC OPro with no need to rename to "proper" . extension. Does anyone know how to get around ending up with things like new.zip,ddc which seems to blight shifting files from the Iyo. In general I think it's time to have a dedicated web page for OP for W, stick the filters in a separate installer etc. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 15:54:38 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048175487:10:06110:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:54:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048175487:10:06110:44; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:51:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id au1004533; 20 Mar 2003 15:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w21l-0001L4-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:32:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KFVQ229730 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:31:26 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KFVOm29724 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:31:24 GMT Received: from worthy.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.99] helo=worthy) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18w20q-0007I6-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:31:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:30:12 GMT From: Tim Howarth To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <915534d64b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> References: <5ae6b8d14b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bd1ba4a25David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd230f5caDavid@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4bd448bb95David@williams333.freeserve.co.uk> <4MjmCPOmL+d+Ewuc@pilling.demon.co.uk> <66fe8fd54b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <91e32ad64b.tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >Have you disabled/removed the Impression loader ? > > Yes, that's what I meant by "at the cost of removing the filters". Ah, sorry not listening at back of class. > >Could you also consider the ability to load ,b27 ,aff etc. extension > >files as used by Lanman98/FS2. > > Done that. Help Topics in OP for Windows tells you all about file > extensions and some other relevant bits. Ah, either I've misunderstood or not made myself clear enough, I meant ",aff" i.e. comma followed by hex filetype, not "." extension. > Does anyone know how to get around ending up with things like > > new.zip,ddc Depends what you are using. Ensure if using Lanman98 that the mapping file (or mimemap IIRC for recent Lanman98) has a mapping of zip to ddc. If so a file saved on PC of type ddc with an extension of /zip will not gain the extra extension, those without /ext will I don't think LanmanFS2 is so clever... > which seems to blight shifting files from the Iyo. > > > In general I think it's time to have a dedicated web page for OP for W, > stick the filters in a separate installer etc. Sounds like a good idea - also this thread is getting silly "OP - Windows version", almost needs a sub list. -- ___ |im ---- ARM Powered ---- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 18:24:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048184427:10:16273:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:24:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048184427:10:16273:46; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:20:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1115871; 20 Mar 2003 18:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w4Zq-0002OW-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:15:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KIEYl21852 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KIEXA21845 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:34 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18w4Yj-000ArG-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:14:33 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:13:32 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have a Style setup called Hilight. >The script is: >{string s;int i=0;while(getuserstyle(i++,s,1)) if(s=="Hilight") >addstyle(i-1)} >Any particular reason why it'll work on the RO version but not the Win >version? Works on the Win version for me. I attached it to a button macro, because if you wanted to do this on a key press it would be much easier to just give the style 'Hilight' a key press. That does raise another way of solving the problem. Lets say you associate Control F2 with the style Hilight. Then you could define your button as {'C_F2} -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 21:33:39 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048195632:10:13770:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:33:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048195632:10:13770:68; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:27:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012800; 20 Mar 2003 21:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w7Xh-00054u-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:25:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KLOBD03148 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:24:11 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KKk7626990 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:46:07 GMT Received: from localhost ([62.254.37.168]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030320204606.OWMU310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@localhost> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:46:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:47:26 GMT From: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Centre Stage User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hello In message David Pilling wrote: > >I have a Style setup called Hilight. > >The script is: > >{string s;int i=0;while(getuserstyle(i++,s,1)) if(s=="Hilight") > >addstyle(i-1)} > >Any particular reason why it'll work on the RO version but not the Win > >version? > > Works on the Win version for me. > [snip] I have this in a Merge Field (which works perfectly in RO 4.02) {int p;string n,q,r,s; if(field(13)=="") s=field(11); else s=field(13); if (mids(s,0,1)=="0") n=mids(s,1,1);else n=mids(s,0,2);p=stoi(n)+6;q=itos(p);r=n+" - "+q;macv=r} In the Win version, (my m/c laptop XP Home, admin rights) this (which is in Merge Field 3) *always* crashes the program - but this:- {string m,s,p; int i,j,n;if (field(13)=="")s=field(11);else s=field(13);i=stoi(mids(s,4,2));macv=month(i)+" 20"+mids(s,6,2)} (which is in merge field 4) works ok (Only 4 merge fields - 1st two are much simpler field 1) is {macv=field(n)} field 2) is {macv=field(n)+" "+ field(m)} The merge field 3 attempts to extract a week's end and start dates from a CSV file's field of the form dd-mm-yy; the second to extract the month (in full, eg 'February') and year (in the form yyyy) from the same field; the function month() is a script file held in Ov Pro's library folder with a case construction as: string month(int i) { string s; switch(i) { case 1: s="January"; break; case 2: s="February"; break; ... case 12: s="December"; break; } return s; } which also works perfectly under RO 4 I have finally managed a version working of of the document it's in, but if I now open the 'Fields' button in the merge print window it invariably crashes - it gets to opening merge field 3 and this is always blank and then crahes - thus I cannot amend anything if I want to change eg a field number for the CSV file Colin -- Colin Carnegie colinc@argonet.co.uk www.argonet.co.uk/users/cstage -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 22:13:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048198117:10:09930:123".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:13:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048198117:10:09930:123; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:08:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1009955; 20 Mar 2003 22:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w8CD-00033f-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:07:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KM6aJ11468 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:36 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KM6Zc11459 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:35 GMT Received: from [62.64.221.150] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18w8B8-000PvX-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:49:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: DPlngScan Message-ID: <4bd64c0eecdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <543ccad54b.jacorn@jacorn.attglobal.net> References: <4bd3c68e66dfs@ukgateway.net> <5L2WTqJyz4d+EwOn@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> <543ccad54b.jacorn@jacorn.attglobal.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <543ccad54b.jacorn@jacorn.attglobal.net>, James K White wrote: > In message <4bd54f471fdfs@ukgateway.net> > Dave Symes wrote: > > In article , > > David Pilling wrote: > > > >A couple of years back, I ported 'jasper' (open source JPEG 2000 > > > >project). So crummy was the port that I uploaded it to > > > >www.arcade.demon.co.uk where no one would see it. > > > Ah well! RO stuffs another idea I had. > Have you tried viewing the jpegs in Oregano2? [Snip] Don't sit at the back of the class... ;-) Of course I've tried O2 and every thing else I have installed. O1, O2, Fresco, Browse, the latest version of WXL, DPlngscan, PhotoDesk, StudioPro-24, ChangeFSI, Variations, SwiftJpeg, JClean etc etc. Next. Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 22:13:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048198145:10:11608:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:13:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048198145:10:11608:42; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:09:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1009957; 20 Mar 2003 22:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w8CD-00033e-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:07:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KM6bd11478 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:37 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KM6bd11473 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:37 GMT Received: from [62.64.221.150] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18w8BA-000PvX-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:06:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: <4bd64cb0b8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I have a Style setup called Hilight. > >The script is: > >{string s;int i=0;while(getuserstyle(i++,s,1)) if(s=="Hilight") > >addstyle(i-1)} > >Any particular reason why it'll work on the RO version but not the Win > >version? > Works on the Win version for me. > I attached it to a button macro, because if you wanted to do this on a > key press it would be much easier to just give the style 'Hilight' a key > press. That does raise another way of solving the problem. Lets say you > associate Control F2 with the style Hilight. Then you could define your > button as > {'C_F2} I do have a button... that's what the above mentioned script is for. Dave S I'll try your key method, but that's not really what I want. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 23:13:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048201616:20:14763:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:13:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048201616:20:14763:59; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:06:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2108680; 20 Mar 2003 23:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w95e-0000o7-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KN3TP21460 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:03:29 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KN3Tl21457 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:03:29 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18w94K-0000we-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:03:29 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:02:00 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Macros References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd64cb0b8dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd64cb0b8dfs@ukgateway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I'll try your key method, but that's not really what I want. I suppose it will be interesting to see if it works. Since another explanation could be that the style 'Highlight' is failing. However I can't see why things don't work in the original way - they did for me. I did set up things from scratch though - so we don't have situations identical in every respect. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 23:13:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048201552:10:28371:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:13:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048201552:10:28371:40; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:05:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104351; 20 Mar 2003 23:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w95s-0000pt-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:05:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KN4Es21547 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KN4Ee21544 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:14 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18w94z-0000y6-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:04:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:02:48 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >In the Win version, (my m/c laptop XP Home, admin rights) this (which is in >Merge Field 3) *always* crashes the program - but this:- I'd be happy to see a demo, i.e. document with sample CSV file. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Mar 20 23:33:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048203063:20:27244:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:33:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048203063:20:27244:42; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:31:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115570; 20 Mar 2003 23:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w9TV-0005Ne-00; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:29:29 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2KNScC25086 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:28:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2KNScc25083 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:28:38 GMT Received: from bvista.demon.co.uk ([194.222.32.134]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18w9Sf-0006rZ-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:28:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:14:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "A.F. Taylor" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Arthur Taylor X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Thu 20 Mar, David Pilling wrote: > >> >Yes, OvPro now works in linux! > >> But alas not in Windows 95 - installer program trouble... > > OK, at the cost of removing the filters the version at > > http://davidpilling.net/ovnpro.exe > > now works on W95. > Hooray! It now works on my PC card (586/133), previous versions just sat there and sulked when I attempted to install them. However... a major snag is that in 256 colours the text cursor is completely invisible!! - and selections can't be seen either. You may ask why would anyone want to use only 256 colours, well, it's more or less essential with the PC card to achieve bearable operation speed. I appreciate that satisfactory running on such a low-powered system can't be a high priority ;-) but hopefully it's only a matter of choosing a slightly different shade of red to make it register with 256 colours? Other than that, it works at an acceptable speed and it's good to see such a familiar face in a Windows environmet - quite spooky in fact! Of course, one of the main reasons for me using (and buying!) a Windows version would be for it's filters to deal with 'foriegn' file formats, so hopefully a separate installer for these will be the answer. One other point, there seemed to be more applets in the applet folder than show up on the menu in the program - am I missing something here? > > In passing I notice the screen display in XP (DVI monitor/video card, > clear type enabled) is a lot better than '95 - so you don't really want > it work with '95 do you. In fact with all that technology the display is > almost as good as on the Acorn ;-) > Ah well, I'm afraid that W95 is probably the best that one can use on the PC card - I know '98 is possible but I understand that it's even slower than 95, so don't give up on the former, please! Regards, -- Arthur Taylor, Poole, Dorset -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 00:13:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048205413:20:02891:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:13:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048205413:20:02891:54; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:10:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2001475; 21 Mar 2003 0:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wA4u-0004hU-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:08:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2L06ja32225 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:06:45 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2L06j832221 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:06:45 GMT Received: from south-frm.demon.co.uk ([80.177.26.219] helo=dormant) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wA3Y-0009zN-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:06:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:06:16 GMT From: Tim Powys-Lybbe To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <419563d64b.tim@south-frm.demon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: South Farm, Calstone, Calne, Wilts, England (no house here!) User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message "A.F. Taylor" wrote: > Ah well, I'm afraid that W95 is probably the best that one can use on the PC > card - I know '98 is possible but I understand that it's even slower than > 95, so don't give up on the former, please! I use W98 and it's fast enough. But then I also have a 280 Mhz StongArm, 7000 rpm disc, Blitz disc driver system, PCPro 3.06, and a 133 Mhz pc-card with 512k cache. Leave out any of these and it will tend to crawl. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 00:33:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048206252:10:23898:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:33:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048206252:10:23898:70; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:24:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1023050; 21 Mar 2003 0:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wAIu-000661-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:22:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2L0LiZ01975 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:21:44 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2L0Lht01971 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:21:43 GMT Received: from localhost ([62.254.40.153]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030321002143.MBXZ20605.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@localhost> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:21:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:23:40 GMT From: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Centre Stage User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >In the Win version, (my m/c laptop XP Home, admin rights) this (which is in > >Merge Field 3) *always* crashes the program - but this:- > > I'd be happy to see a demo, i.e. document with sample CSV file. > > Sent by email -- Colin Carnegie colinc@argonet.co.uk www.argonet.co.uk/users/cstage -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 00:53:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048207939:20:08163:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:53:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048207939:20:08163:40; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:52:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007857; 21 Mar 2003 0:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wAkd-0001sd-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:51:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2L0oGw05468 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:50:16 GMT Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2L0oFw05461 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:50:15 GMT Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wAjf-00062b-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:50:15 +0100 Received: from [213.6.70.178] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wAje-00049u-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:50:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:50:46 +0100 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version - GIF Message-ID: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030307204738.00b17c28@mail.mcqueen.uk.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030307204738.00b17c28@mail.mcqueen.uk.net> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <5.2.0.9.0.20030307204738.00b17c28@mail.mcqueen.uk.net> Colin McQueen wrote: > At 03:12 05/03/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>>I suspect windows metafile will have to be added. What other graphics > >>Just remembered another one; > >>Probably impossible but what about Artworks ? > > > >No chance. > > > >I suppose I might do SVG and AW will have SVG export facilities one day. > > How about TODAY !! (being the 7th.) Hurrah! Funnily, the official announcement about the official release the SVG export mode for ArtWorks was sent on the 6th of March, one day after David posted the comment about "AW will have SVG export facilities one day". Spot on, David. It just took one day. :-) Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 01:53:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048211331:20:00837:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:53:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048211331:20:00837:51; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:48:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000418; 21 Mar 2003 1:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wBd9-0003y5-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:47:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2L1kAV12001 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:46:10 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2L1k9611998 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:46:09 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wBbk-000DVO-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:46:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:44:34 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >there and sulked when I attempted to install them. However... a major snag >is that in 256 colours the text cursor is completely invisible!! - and Another problematic area is low depth colour modes. ISTR spending a while messing about with these - by saying that I'm not implying it all still works. These comments are interesting, if no one is bothered about W95 etc. I'll certainly not be supporting them. Of course W95 in 256 colours mode is not something you'd swop RISC OS for - so how come people were abandoning Acorn in the years when that was all that was available. >Of course, one of the main reasons for me using (and buying!) a Windows >version would be for it's filters to deal with 'foriegn' file formats, so >hopefully a separate installer for these will be the answer. I suspect that if/when I do some interesting filters, I'll make them available for RISC OS too. >One other point, there seemed to be more applets in the applet folder than >show up on the menu in the program - am I missing something here? No, not all applets appear on the applets menu, some add themselves to other menus, some don't have any menu entries at all. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 03:43:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048217975:10:00494:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:43:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048217975:10:00494:52; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:39:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115011; 21 Mar 2003 3:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wDMo-0002ze-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:38:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2L3bVV23699 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:37:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2L3bVA23696 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:37:31 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wDLW-0000t3-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:37:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:36:25 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I've set up a web page for the Windows version of OP. http://davidpilling.net/ovationpro/opw.html On this you can find a link to the latest version (along with info on what it is), the dictionary installer, the filters installer and an example applet. The latter is only of interest to programmers, it comes with MS Visual C++ source/project files. It was always good that Template files on RISC OS could be edited by anyone. So far my best guess is that a freeware program called lcc may be a no cost way of editing MS .rc files. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 13:54:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048246421:10:24760:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:54:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048246421:10:24760:47; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:33:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id as1129257; 21 Mar 2003 11:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wKXV-00085u-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:18:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LBHXB32201 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:17:33 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LBHWi32194 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:17:32 GMT Received: from [62.188.130.69] (helo=localhost) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wKWe-0005p5-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:17:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:09:02 GMT From: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: <9842a0d64b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Centre Stage User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > As you say looking at the Fields window leads to a crash. Now I've fixed > that. I can now use the buttons on the mail merge window to step through > your CSV file. I had got as far as being able to do that (just) but not reopen the fields window - I completely changed every variable name so that no script had the same variable names as any other, (whether that mattered or not I don't know) I put field 4 in before field 3 and managed to get it to step through. But when I tried to re-open the fields window - bang! > What I'm not sure is if fixing the display problem has fixed the other > one. Did you have crashes when printing or just when stepping through > with the buttons? because I had spent all my efforts on actually trying to get the script into the field, I haven't got as far as testing real printing - but as I say I can now step through the records on-screen. I'll get back to you about actual printing. On a different topic - I've downloaded the English dictionary which seems to work ok, but when I try to create a new dictionary called eg 'new' or 'colin' I get an error: 'The filename, directory name or volume label syntax is incorrect. (DeleteFile)(123)(\colin.dic)' I dont know whether the fact that I tried to call the first dictionary 'ColinDic' rather than just 'Colin' might be signifcant, but now an attempt to create 'Colin' tells me that it already exists, (although it doesn't) and a search with regedit does find an entry end in HKEY_CURRENTUSER/Software/Microsoft/Search Assistant/ACMru/5603 as: Name Type Data (ab)000 REG_SZ colin.dic but I'm not confident enough to do anything except stare at it in terror... ProgramFiles/DavidPilling/Dictionaries only contains 'maindict' and 'uninstall' Colin -- Colin Carnegie colinc@argonet.co.uk www.argonet.co.uk/users/cstage -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 14:24:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048255894:20:05501:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:24:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048255894:20:05501:49; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:11:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aq2106616; 21 Mar 2003 14:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wN2q-0002N3-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:58:52 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LDw5p14937 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:58:05 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LDw4Y14931 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:58:04 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030321135803.DHFL11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:58:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:58:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <9842a0d64b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Fri 21 Mar, colinc@argonet.co.uk wrote: > I dont know whether the fact that I tried to call the first dictionary > 'ColinDic' rather than just 'Colin' might be signifcant, but now an attempt > to create 'Colin' tells me that it already exists, (although it doesn't) > and a search with regedit does find an entry end in > > HKEY_CURRENTUSER/Software/Microsoft/Search Assistant/ACMru/5603 as: > > > Name Type Data > (ab)000 REG_SZ colin.dic > > but I'm not confident enough to do anything except stare at it in > terror... You can ignore that one. It is the record that you have run a search for Colin.dic - possibly in Explorer to see if the file exists? - so that it will be available from a list of recent searches. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 14:24:49 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048255794:10:27179:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:24:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048255794:10:27179:85; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:09:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1026525; 21 Mar 2003 14:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wN7h-0007BO-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:03:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LE3Qa16619 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:03:26 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LE3P916615 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:03:25 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18wN7F-000Mk6-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:03:25 +0000 Message-ID: <2QLlFtALtxe+EwH9@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:01:47 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: "P. C. Newble" > These comments are interesting, if no one is bothered about W95 > etc. I'll certainly not be supporting them. I've been very interested since it was first mooted in the prospect of a Windows version of Ovation Pro, mainly in order to be able to exchange documents between home and work in editable form rather than as PDFs. A Mac version would be even better(!), but Windows is so ubiquitous that it's obviously the sensible way to go. I have a Windows machine, but, as a confirmed RISC OS user, I don't use it for anything that I can do on another platform. Consequently I don't spend any more money on it than I have to and am presently running Windows 95. I'm certainly keen for 95 and 98 to be supported at the moment, although I wouldn't have suspected the problems this seems to introduce. I wouldn't blame you for setting a minimum working configuration though (OS, RAM etc.) as it seems to fit the Windows mentality well ("This site is best viewed on a ridiculously powerful but supremely inefficient Mickey Mouse machine. Please downgrade your browser to something less-W3C-compliant . . .", etc.) -- Peter Newble. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 15:34:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048259204:20:22689:99".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:34:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048259204:20:22689:99; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:06:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2116131; 21 Mar 2003 15:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wNQd-0000BX-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:23:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LEN0j21890 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:23:00 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LEMxB21887 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:23:00 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18wNQB-0001nP-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:22:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:21:44 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> <9842a0d64b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <9842a0d64b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I had got as far as being able to do that (just) but not reopen the fields >window The problem is (was) some fixed length strings, what you were doing to upset things was defining a field that was too long. >On a different topic - I've downloaded the English dictionary which seems >to work ok, but when I try to create a new dictionary called eg 'new' or >'colin' I get an error: Sorry that is another bug. OP has a path to user dictionaries as well as non-user dictionaries. I had forgotten that. The dictionary installers are for programs like CrossStar which don't have user dictionaries. If you want to fix it now by hand, define the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\DavidPilling\UserDictionaries to point to a folder for your user dictionaries. Perhaps Program Files\DavidPilling\UserDictionaries which you will have to create. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 16:54:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048265481:10:26686:118".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:54:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048265481:10:26686:118; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:51:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ba1025486; 21 Mar 2003 16:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wPa7-0001do-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:41:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LGea330288 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:40:36 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LGeZp30282 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:40:36 GMT Received: from localhost ([62.254.41.14]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030321164034.ZCXD9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@localhost> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:40:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:41:20 GMT From: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> <9842a0d64b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Centre Stage User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: [snip] > Sorry that is another bug. OP has a path to user dictionaries as well as > non-user dictionaries. I had forgotten that. The dictionary installers > are for programs like CrossStar which don't have user dictionaries. > > If you want to fix it now by hand, define the registry key > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\DavidPilling\UserDictionaries > > to point to a folder for your user dictionaries. Perhaps > > Program Files\DavidPilling\UserDictionaries > > which you will have to create. > Err... I think I'll wait till the next version - 'terror' is not too strong a word when it comes to me and registry matters. Thank you Colin -- Colin Carnegie colinc@argonet.co.uk www.argonet.co.uk/users/cstage -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Mar 21 19:04:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048273176:10:17264:84".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:04:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048273176:10:17264:84; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:59:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1017620; 21 Mar 2003 18:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wRhb-0002SF-00; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:57:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2LIuIU03802 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:56:18 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2LIuIG03798 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:56:18 GMT Received: from [62.64.209.208] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18wRgN-000LNa-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:55:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Macros Message-ID: <4bd6caf92adfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4bd64cb0b8dfs@ukgateway.net> References: <4bd3c23f59dfs@ukgateway.net> <4bd64cb0b8dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 20 Mar, dfs@ukgateway.net wrote: > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >I have a Style setup called Hilight. > > >The script is: > > >{string s;int i=0;while(getuserstyle(i++,s,1)) if(s=="Hilight") > > >addstyle(i-1)} > > >Any particular reason why it'll work on the RO version but not the Win > > >version? > > Works on the Win version for me. > > I attached it to a button macro, because if you wanted to do this on a > > key press it would be much easier to just give the style 'Hilight' a > > key press. That does raise another way of solving the problem. Lets > > say you associate Control F2 with the style Hilight. Then you could > > define your button as > > {'C_F2} > I do have a button... that's what the above mentioned script is for. > Dave S > I'll try your key method, but that's not really what I want. I recently installed another version of OvPro Win and the Hilight button macro works okay now. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 17:33:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048433332:20:22610:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:33:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048433332:20:22610:40; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:28:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2126799; 23 Mar 2003 15:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18x7OJ-0004ao-00; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:28:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2NFOrn23961 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:24:53 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2NFOrl23957 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:24:53 GMT Received: from [213.116.50.201] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18x7L5-0000qp-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:24:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:56:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd71d7749steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2QLlFtALtxe+EwH9@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <2QLlFtALtxe+EwH9@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 21 Mar, David Pilling wrote: > I'm certainly keen for 95 and 98 to be supported at the moment, > although I wouldn't have suspected the problems this seems to introduce. The root problem is that most (modern) developer kits support production of Win32 code. Unfortunately the 9x versions of Windows are a hotch-potch of 16 and 32 bit code and no-one has any guarantees that anything produced with a modern s/w set will even work on 9x unless they test the code on 9x. To be even handed - I have a program (in BBC BASIC) that runs on the RPC and acts as a pseudo-server for mail but it fails on the Iyonix. My current suspicion is that the socket code is not being handled in quite the same way by the Internet module in each (v5.06 - RPC, 5.45 Iyonix) Or possibly the Iyonix is just too fast... -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 17:34:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048504400:20:12956:970".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:34:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048504400:20:12956:970; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:13:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116159; 24 Mar 2003 11:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xPnq-0000N2-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:07:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2OB7aS11106 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:07:36 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2OB7ZV11099 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:07:35 GMT Received: from localhost ([62.254.40.50]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030324110734.OLZG310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@localhost> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:07:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:09:34 GMT From: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <2cd12bd84b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> X-Organization: Centre Stage User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> John Pettigrew wrote: [snip] > Would any kind soul out there care to convert these two applets into a > Windows-compatible form? They are TextPal (which provides a window for > changing kerning, tracking and raise/lower) and Clipbrds (which is the > applet that lets you handle multiple clipboards in a friendly manner). I > suspect that the former isn't used that widely, Used *lots* here >but I think that the second is pretty common. Ditto So yes please - conversions very much desired > > TiA > > John Colin -- Colin Carnegie colinc@argonet.co.uk www.argonet.co.uk/users/cstage -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 17:34:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048504604:20:00039:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:34:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048504604:20:00039:77; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:16:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002102; 24 Mar 2003 11:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xPuu-0005Nc-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:15:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2OBEuK13341 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:14:56 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2OBEte13337 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:14:55 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.73.84]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030324111455.UQGQ9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:14:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:14:48 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> <2cd12bd84b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <2cd12bd84b.colin@cstage.argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, colinc@argonet.co.uk wrote: > In message <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> > John Pettigrew wrote: > > I suspect that [TextPal] isn't used that widely, > > Used *lots* here Always nice to hear :-) You'll have spotted the nasty bug when clicking in a non-text frame with TextPal active? I'll fix that one day, honest... John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 17:34:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048535242:20:24913:128".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:34:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048535242:20:24913:128; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:47:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115657; 24 Mar 2003 19:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xXts-0006Km-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:46:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2OJjnP11982 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:45:49 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2OJjmT11969 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:45:48 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18xXtD-0006Z9-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:45:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:18:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] suggestion about OP windows version threads Message-ID: <4bd8589c43Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03e (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist The text "OP windows version" takes up too much of a subject line. Could people start using "OPW:" or "OPWin:" as a prefix and leave it at that? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 17:35:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048503220:10:15445:76".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:35:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048503220:10:15445:76; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:53:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1014851; 24 Mar 2003 10:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xPOl-000748-00; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:41:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2OAevB03120 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:57 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2OAeuX03111 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:57 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.73.84]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20030324104056.MZWO310.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:40:49 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version Message-ID: <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > It was always good that Template files on RISC OS could be edited by > anyone. So far my best guess is that a freeware program called lcc may > be a no cost way of editing MS .rc files. I don't run Windows (just RISC OS and linux) so I won't be able to convert the templates from my two applets into the relevant formats with any ease. Would any kind soul out there care to convert these two applets into a Windows-compatible form? They are TextPal (which provides a window for changing kerning, tracking and raise/lower) and Clipbrds (which is the applet that lets you handle multiple clipboards in a friendly manner). I suspect that the former isn't used that widely, but I think that the second is pretty common. TiA John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 19:52:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048621883:20:17850:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:52:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048621883:20:17850:41; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:51:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2017550; 25 Mar 2003 19:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xuRK-0002sI-00; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:50:30 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2PJntm30024 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:49:55 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2PJns730017 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:49:54 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18xuQj-0007mp-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:48:53 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I don't run Windows (just RISC OS and linux) so I won't be able to convert >the templates from my two applets into the relevant formats with any ease. >Would any kind soul out there care to convert these two applets into a >Windows-compatible form? I guess I'd be really happy if people converted their own applets. I'd be quite happy to convert them myself though i.e. given permission. I've done a batch of my own applets over the weekend - it has been interesting to see the various problems that have arisen. So perhaps it is still early for others to be putting lots of effort into this. Quite a bit of information is not available, for example how to emulate the Acorn style icons with my custom Windows control. There will be some applets that transfer with no changes e.g. the PastePos applet that comes with OPW at the moment. I would be interested to see how the multiple clipboards work, so your applet may get done shortly. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Mar 25 21:32:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048627835:20:10857:82".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:32:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048627835:20:10857:82; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:30:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101345; 25 Mar 2003 21:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xvzv-0008K3-00; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:30:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2PLTnR25200 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:29:49 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2PLTm425193 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:29:48 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18xvzP-000Bkw-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:29:47 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:28:29 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <422f29d84b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, Following on the theme of editing the resources for the Windows version. John Ferguson has just told me about http://www.users.on.net/johnson/resourcehacker/ that seems to get us back to the RISC OS position where anyone can edit an applet. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 26 03:32:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048649000:10:15313:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:32:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048649000:10:15313:41; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:23:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015017; 26 Mar 2003 3:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18y1VB-0007Nm-00; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:22:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2Q3M9I27575 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:22:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2Q3M8K27572 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:22:09 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18y1UO-0004YK-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:22:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:20:31 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP - Windows version References: <6gMm5QKWOTe+EwFp@pilling.demon.co.uk> <2QLlFtALtxe+EwH9@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bd71d7749steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bd71d7749steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >The root problem is that most (modern) developer kits support production of >Win32 code. Unfortunately the 9x versions of Windows are a hotch-potch of >16 and 32 bit code and no-one has any guarantees that anything produced >with a modern s/w set will even work on 9x unless they test the code on 9x. For what it is worth I've programmed OPW using the Win API i.e. my own windows library talks direct to the API. >To be even handed - I have a program (in BBC BASIC) that runs on the RPC >and acts as a pseudo-server for mail but it fails on the Iyonix. >My current suspicion is that the socket code is not being handled in quite >the same way by the Internet module in each (v5.06 - RPC, 5.45 Iyonix) Some of the OP transloaders (e.g. TransPCD) have a two line Basic program (GetMode) which managed to not work on the Iyonix due to someone assuming a memory address (of anything) would always be positive (bit 31 clear). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Mar 26 22:02:07 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1048715816:20:11738:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:02:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1048715816:20:11738:49; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:56:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2011716; 26 Mar 2003 21:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18yIsp-00042i-00; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:56:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2QLtki29993 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:55:46 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2QLtfB29974 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:55:42 GMT Received: from [62.64.230.140] (helo=tiscali) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18yIrn-000Ozf-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:55:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Symes To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:54:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP - Windows version Message-ID: <4bd96e858bdfs@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4bd029a039dfs@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/3.03g (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > >Is is possible on/in the Window version to add to the button bar Sprite > >pool, as can be done in the RO version? I can't seem to find the > >...!OvnResDir.UK.Buttons22 equivalent in the Win version. > Yes... > In general Windows programs have their resources bound inside their .exe > files. That's where things like Templates have gone. And the main > Buttons are there too - pity if you want to delete any of them. > However OP for Windows can still load buttons from disc. For example > from inside applets. So that is how you would do it. I think there is an > applet whose role in life is to provide somewhere to stick extra > resources. That should work. > Sprite files, have to have a .spr extension. And they have to be Sprite > files too, no equivalent available in Windows. BMP's don't support > masks, and ICO's are fixed sizes. I've now resolved the problem by creating a dummy Applet into which I put the spritefile that contains my button pictures. Cheers Dave S -- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 17:38:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049098842:20:03559:169".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:38:42 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049098842:20:03559:169; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:20:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104818; 31 Mar 2003 8:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18zuRV-0003Ei-00; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:14:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2V8E7W00548 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:14:07 +0100 Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2V8E6A00543 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:14:06 +0100 Received: from Rpc ([80.7.2.123]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030331081406.GGJT25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@Rpc> for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:14:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:13:53 +0100 From: John Sandford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators Message-ID: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have just discovered that OvationPro will not run for any user not at Administrator level. The error message refers to a registry entry. Was this intended with the Beta's ? -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead Risc OS User Group www.hhrug.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 19:07:41 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049220185:10:21348:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:07:41 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049220185:10:21348:55; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:03:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1021070; 1 Apr 2003 18:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190Ps3-0005RP-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:48:27 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31Hljp13092 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:47:45 +0100 Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31Hlhj13085 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:47:43 +0100 Received: from [62.188.151.216] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 190PrI-0007Ee-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:47:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:58:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators Message-ID: <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 31 Mar, John Sandford wrote: > I have just discovered that OvationPro will not run for any user not at > Administrator level. > The error message refers to a registry entry. > Was this intended with the Beta's ? Make that user admin for a short while run the setup and then revert to normal. This sort of thing is usually to do with settings migration - typically MS Office will not complete it's installation on Win2k and later unless the user is a minimum of Power User. (Completion being the setting of the individual preferences for that user) As ever, MS discovered what "security" meant but screwed up on the implementation. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 22:27:49 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049232139:10:17812:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:27:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049232139:10:17812:46; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:22:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1017296; 1 Apr 2003 21:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190TBp-0002Ib-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:21:05 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31LKOY02576 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:20:24 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31LKOR02573 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:20:24 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 190TB9-000HTD-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:20:23 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:18:54 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Paul Witheridge On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:13:53 +0100, John Sandford wrote: >I have just discovered that OvationPro will not run for any user not at >Administrator level. > >The error message refers to a registry entry. > I can run OvationPro 2.70 (dated 20 March) on XP Pro under my user id which is a member of the "Power Users" and "Users" groups, but NOT a member of "Administrators". This is the user id I installed Ovation Pro on. However, I tried from two other user ids, one being a member of both "Power Users" and "Users", the other being a member only of "Users". In both cases Ovation Pro would not start, but just popped-up a dialog box with the message: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. (findFirstFile)(123)( for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:47:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049233377:20:08986:46; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:42:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128068; 1 Apr 2003 21:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190TVJ-0002Vu-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:41:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31LemC07110 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:40:48 +0100 Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31LeXB07081 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:40:33 +0100 Received: from Rpc ([80.7.2.123]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030401214030.FXFE9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@Rpc> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:40:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:40:02 +0100 From: John Sandford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators Message-ID: References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> Steven Pampling wrote: > On 31 Mar, John Sandford wrote: > > I have just discovered that OvationPro will not run for any user not at > > Administrator level. > > > The error message refers to a registry entry. > > > Was this intended with the Beta's ? > > Make that user admin for a short while run the setup and then revert to > normal. > > This sort of thing is usually to do with settings migration - typically MS > Office will not complete it's installation on Win2k and later unless the > user is a minimum of Power User. (Completion being the setting of the > individual preferences for that user) > > As ever, MS discovered what "security" meant but screwed up on the > implementation. > I learned that trick from you in a previous posting (very useful thanks) But... Tried that, runs ok as an administrator, after several rebootsand then returning to power user status the following error occurs on running OP.. The file name,directory name or volume syntax is incorrect. (fileFirstFile)(123) (\*.*) I checked all the permissions on shortcuts and files in DP directory are set for everybody. -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead Risc OS User Group www.hhrug.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 23:13:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049234705:20:16476:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:13:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049234705:20:16476:56; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:05:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2103366; 1 Apr 2003 22:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190Trb-0006AU-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:04:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31M3r411897 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:03:53 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31M3rD11894 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:03:53 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 190TrF-000OGs-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:02:20 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >The file name,directory name or volume syntax is incorrect. >(fileFirstFile)(123) >(\*.*) > You all keep miss quoting that error which makes me nervous. What is going on is that OP can't find the registry value. HKey_Local_Machine\Software\DavidPilling\OvationPro\Applets Seems kind of obvious the program is installed by user A, it is then only visible for user A. If you log on as user B you see a different set of registry values... (but for this key? I may have second thoughts). There is no intention of a limitation on the current version. This is an interesting point though, could well be that the current situation is not desirable. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 23:23:53 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049235699:20:13592:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:23:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049235699:20:13592:51; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:21:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2012291; 1 Apr 2003 22:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190U6U-0002Y9-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:19:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31MJHp14405 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:19:17 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31MJGv14402 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:19:16 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 190U68-00066v-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:17:36 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >(but for this key? I may have second thoughts). Quite right too. The problem can be fixed by logging on as an admin and giving the key HKey_Local_Machine\Software\DavidPilling\OvationPro using RegEdit. 'full control' rights. It is then possible to run OP from a user account. I wonder if people would like installing OP to make it visible to all users or just one. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Apr 1 23:33:53 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049236289:20:29689:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:33:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049236289:20:29689:49; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:31:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114430; 1 Apr 2003 22:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190UGX-00013e-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:30:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31MTED16182 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:29:14 +0100 Received: from black-watch.firstnet.net.uk (onslaught.firstnet.net.uk [212.103.224.245]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h31MTE416175 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:29:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 18011 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2003 22:29:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hpbrio) (212.103.240.164) by 10.10.10.7 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2003 22:29:28 -0000 From: "Ian ODonnell" To: Subject: RE: [softwarelist] OP Windows version Font Conversion Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:28:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000101c2f89e$029c63c0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist With the fact I am now going to want to pull Ovation files across from my Acorn to work on my PC, is there any way of converting Acorn fonts to PC fonts. I have EFFs converter the other way and was wondering if there was anything to work this way? Any suggestions Ian _ _ _ _ |_|_|_|_| Graphic Solutions for all Media |_|_|_|_| 3 Goode Croft, Tile Hill, |_|_|_|_| Coventry CV4 9RF |_|_|_|_| Tel: 024 76466416 Real Point http://www.realpoint.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Apr 2 02:23:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049237768:10:17348:77".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:23:19 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049237768:10:17348:77; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:56:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123980; 1 Apr 2003 22:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190Uex-0001Eu-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:55:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31Msu619783 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:54:56 +0100 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31Msur19780 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:54:56 +0100 Received: from [212.227.126.162] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 190Ued-00069I-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:54:55 +0200 Received: from [213.6.120.234] (helo=goedel) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 190Ued-0008UA-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:54:55 +0200 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:55:29 +0200 From: Martin Wuerthner To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: RE: [softwarelist] OP Windows version Font Conversion Message-ID: <35228bdc4b.martin@mw-software.com> References: <000101c2f89e$029c63c0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> In-Reply-To: <000101c2f89e$029c63c0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> X-Organization: MW Software User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <000101c2f89e$029c63c0$0afea8c0@hpbrio> "Ian ODonnell" wrote: > With the fact I am now going to want to pull Ovation files across from my > Acorn to work on my PC, is there any way of converting Acorn fonts to PC > fonts. I have EFFs converter the other way and was wondering if there was > anything to work this way? Yes, EFF themselves. They have Windows versions for all the fonts they sell. In particular, the EFF Typography CD 2 contains a vast range of fonts in Acorn, TrueType and PostScript format. Highly recommended! Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software martin@mw-software.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Apr 2 02:23:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1049237008:20:20897:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:23:20 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1049237008:20:20897:39; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:43:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2019428; 1 Apr 2003 22:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 190US1-0007MV-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:41:53 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h31MfXk17926 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:41:33 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h31MfXT17921 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:41:33 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 190URg-0005KE-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 23:41:32 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:40:02 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Windows version only runs for Admininstrators References: <7395b6db4b.jms@ntlworld.com> <4bdbf71768steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >giving the key >HKey_Local_Machine\Software\DavidPilling\OvationPro >'full control' rights. This need for this is wrong. The trouble being that I always open the key with full access rights, when all I want is to read the value and a lesser permission level would suffice. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net