From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 18:09:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042049033:10:09212:99".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:09:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042049033:10:09212:99; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:03:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1128731; 8 Jan 2003 18:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WKX2-0000eL-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:02:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08I1ja18763 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:01:45 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08I1i518759 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:01:44 GMT Received: from [62.188.122.168] (helo=62.188.122.168) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18WKWL-0006HT-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:01:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net, John Ballance Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:46:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I don't know whose problem this is, so I am sending it to both possible places. I received my Scanner yesterday, to use with my Iyonix. I had already upgraded DPSS to run on the new machine. I installed the Twain driver as instructed in the readme file (different from the book) [and it does forget to tell you that with Twain hidden in the Boot folder a Re-Boot is needed]. Anyway, I get it all set up and on clicking on "Scan" DPSS gives a type 5 error. So, I can't use the scanner. Please, where does the problem lie? and what is the solution? ps I have managed to get the scanner working with Windows XP and the PC software. -- Using a RISC PC with RISC OS4 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 18:19:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042049864:10:12011:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:19:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042049864:10:12011:46; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:17:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1011699; 8 Jan 2003 18:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WKkr-0005eC-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:16:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08IGWv22009 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:16:32 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08IGWq22006 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:16:32 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WKkh-0001lB-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:16:32 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:15:19 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I received my Scanner yesterday, to use with my Iyonix. I had already >upgraded DPSS to run on the new machine. I installed the Twain driver as >instructed in the readme file (different from the book) [and it does >forget to tell you that with Twain hidden in the Boot folder a Re-Boot is >needed]. >Anyway, I get it all set up and on clicking on "Scan" DPSS gives a type 5 >error. So, I can't use the scanner. A double click on !TWAIN is all that is needed to make it current and accessible. The first thing that springs to mind, is have you upgraded USB on the Iyonix. You need a USB system from 24th December or later. Originally Castle were supplying this on the TWAIN floppy - I don't know if they still are. Check the Device menu in the TWAIN driver, I would guess it is defaulting to USB, but best to check. F12, and then *USBDevices or the neat little desktop thing from XAT, to check that the Iyonix is seeing the scanner. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 18:39:40 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042051083:20:04173:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:39:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042051083:20:04173:46; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:38:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2102123; 8 Jan 2003 18:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WL4E-0002cj-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:36:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08IaYp26134 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:36:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08IaXR26131 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:36:33 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18WL45-0009AM-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:36:33 +0000 Message-ID: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:34:58 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro 2.70 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I've put up Ovation Pro 2.70 on my web site. http://davidpilling.net/ovationpro.html This is only a handful of minor bug fixes. So no rush to upgrade. Perhaps someone could try it and let me know if it works. If you're upgrading from 2.69 there's no need to replace any applets, this is only a new !RunImage away from that version. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 19:49:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042054807:20:07552:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:49:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042054807:20:07552:47; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 19:40:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006224; 8 Jan 2003 19:39 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WM2S-0003zj-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 19:38:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08JcFK05445 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:38:15 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08JcEc05442 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:38:14 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id h08JcMMv027281 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:38:22 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 19:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro 2.70 Message-ID: <4bb1ba1586ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > I've put up Ovation Pro 2.70 on my web site. > http://davidpilling.net/ovationpro.html > This is only a handful of minor bug fixes. So no rush to upgrade. > Perhaps someone could try it and let me know if it works. Yup - it works. And the dragging text import works now as well. Thanks. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 20:59:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042059357:20:23512:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:59:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042059357:20:23512:64; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:55:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2023090; 8 Jan 2003 20:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WNEE-0003nM-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:55:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08KsHD18571 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:54:17 GMT Received: from smtp2.clear.net.nz (smtp2.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08KsG718563 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:54:16 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-239.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.239]) by smtp2.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8E00C8NY00W1@smtp2.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:54:07 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:51:27 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi All I may have missed something? I usually upgrade as soon as possible to the latest version. I have hesitated because of possible incompatibility of applets as I run a lot of them. I have seen the warning from David. Will applets not mentioned and not upgraded work with the latest upgrades? Running RPC StrongArm with RISC OS 4.33 Cheers -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ Everyone is guilt of the good they didn't do. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 21:09:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042059728:20:05160:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:09:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042059728:20:05160:56; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:02:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121066; 8 Jan 2003 21:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WNKn-0004Sd-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:01:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08L1qr20062 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:01:52 GMT Received: from smtp1.clear.net.nz (smtp1.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08L1hr20031 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:01:51 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-239.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.239]) by smtp1.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8E00DCHYDD93@smtp1.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:01:32 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:00:04 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: [softwarelist] SPrinter To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi I found this amazing little utility on the software website. I cannot get it to work after checking the installation several times. I am wondering if the fact that I am running Printers 1.90b4 rather than the versions mentioned in the help file is the problem? I may have done something else wrong as well. Running RPC StrongArm RISC OS 4.33. It would be great to have it working. Cheers -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 21:19:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042060706:10:04478:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:19:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042060706:10:04478:66; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:18:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004742; 8 Jan 2003 21:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WNad-0006Ao-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:18:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08LI8T23060 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:18:08 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08LI7223053 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:18:07 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WNaQ-0006P7-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:18:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:16:29 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have hesitated because of possible incompatibility of applets as I run a >lot of them. The only reason for not upgrading is if you use the Impulse applet. All the other applets are available in 26/32 bit versions. There are only about 8 applets which need updating for 26/32 bit versions of OP, all the rest don't change. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 21:29:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042060904:10:10331:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:29:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042060904:10:10331:45; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:21:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1010291; 8 Jan 2003 21:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WNad-00007r-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:18:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08LICq23075 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:18:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08LI7n23054 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:18:07 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WNaQ-0006P8-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:18:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:16:45 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SPrinter References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I cannot get it to work after checking the installation several times. How does it "not work"? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 21:39:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042061908:10:09075:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:39:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042061908:10:09075:47; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:38:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1009051; 8 Jan 2003 21:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WNu1-0002C3-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:38:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08LcIi26714 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:38:18 GMT Received: from smtp2.clear.net.nz (smtp2.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08Lbrq26650 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:38:17 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-239.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.239]) by smtp2.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8F00IKD01E29@smtp2.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:37:47 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:35:40 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SPrinter In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wed 08 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > > >I cannot get it to work after checking the installation several times. > > How does it "not work"? I have got it printing to a directory that I have entitled "Sprint_Print", a file is generated called "Printout" that file is empty. I do have both SPrinter icons on the icon bar. Thank you for your prompt reply! Cheers > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK > fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > > Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net > -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ 51 things to do in a lift.... 25. Holler "Chutes away!" whenever the lift descends. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 21:49:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042062333:20:25697:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:49:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042062333:20:25697:42; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:45:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025452; 8 Jan 2003 21:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WO0L-00033u-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:44:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08Lip527817 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:44:51 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08LioW27814 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:44:50 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WO0I-0000UN-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:44:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:43:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SPrinter References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have got it printing to a directory that I have entitled "Sprint_Print", a >file is generated called "Printout" that file is empty. I do have both >SPrinter icons on the icon bar. Yeah, but the instructions tell you the name of the folder the printer driver has to be told to print to (and it's not what you mention above). The printout file is not something you normally need know about. It will set off as zero length, but obviously grow once you print. Normally (right name, right location), the Sprinter program will grab any finite size printout file at the instant printing halts. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 8 22:29:50 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042064688:20:00687:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:29:50 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042064688:20:00687:41; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:24:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2029369; 8 Jan 2003 22:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WObn-0005PZ-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:23:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h08MMfq02144 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:22:41 GMT Received: from smtp1.clear.net.nz (smtp1.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08MMeq02138 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:22:40 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-239.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.239]) by smtp1.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8F00IC125N95@smtp1.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:22:37 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:22:32 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: Re: [softwarelist] SPrinter In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wed 08 Jan, David Pilling wrote: [snip] All working well now. I needed to eliminate all references to disc and directory before entering in "SPrinter:Printout" Thank you! > > Yeah, but the instructions tell you the name of the folder the printer > driver has to be told to print to (and it's not what you mention above). > > The printout file is not something you normally need know about. It will > set off as zero length, but obviously grow once you print. Normally > (right name, right location), the Sprinter program will grab any finite > size printout file at the instant printing halts. > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK > fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > > Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net > -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ There must be something worth living for, even some things worth dying for. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 9 13:26:25 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042106295:10:14638:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:26:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042106295:10:14638:40; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:58:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1102785; 9 Jan 2003 9:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WZOr-00077z-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:54:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h099sR304587 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:54:27 GMT Received: from alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk (alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.254.14]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h099sR404584 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:54:27 GMT Received: from stm2-60.static.port.ac.uk ([148.197.243.60] helo=ARMless) by alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18WZOM-0026zL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:54:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Young To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:51:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please Message-ID: <4bb208d48esimon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18WZOM-0026zL-00*PJ6Ip3anXm2* Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David, On 08 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > The only reason for not upgrading is if you use the Impulse applet. All > the other applets are available in 26/32 bit versions. I'm one of those said impulse users .... is it to be upgraded or patched? Regards, Simon. -- Simon A. Young BPharm MRPharmS PhD ILTM | Tel: 023-9284-3610 Lecturer in Pharmaceutics | Fax: 023-9284-3565 University of Portsmouth | simon.young@port.ac.uk ================================================================== Please visit my web-site (pgp key available) located at: http://userwww.port.ac.uk/youngs ================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 9 13:46:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042119797:10:16263:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:46:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042119797:10:16263:75; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:43:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id av1122111; 9 Jan 2003 13:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Wcrw-00057U-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:37:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09DaVr31776 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:36:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h09DaUh31772 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:36:30 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WcrG-000365-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 13:36:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:34:55 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please References: <4bb208d48esimon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb208d48esimon.young@port.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I'm one of those said impulse users .... is it to be upgraded or patched? The Impact database now belongs to CJE Micros, their programmer has converted the Impulse module to 32 bits. But I think we're still awaiting its release... There's no reason why you can't use the 26/32 bit applet on 26 bit systems with the existing Impulse module. Maybe I should put it up on the web site. Yes I'll do that and make it not load it's self contained 26 bit Impulse module. Logic has to be that if you are going to use Impulse on Iyonix, you'll have something that provides the module. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 9 18:26:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042136547:20:16952:63".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:26:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042136547:20:16952:63; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:22:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2100384; 9 Jan 2003 18:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WhIh-0005Ks-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:21:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09IKDN19132 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:20:13 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h09IKDd19126 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:20:13 GMT Received: from talibard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.207.34]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WhHo-0006xF-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:20:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:20:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Talibard Subject: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist This is a little bit off-topic - sorry. I got within a whisker of buying the Iyonix - even made the phone call, but then I asked myself what, aside from Ovation, was going to work on it without emulation? Maybe you guys have a quite different list of favourite or essential software/hardware in mind, but to me the following are what matter most: Ovation Pro - the exception: will work in 32-bit. Datapower - to run via 26-bit emulator (permanently) Photodesk - to run via 26-bit emulator (permanently) Sleuth OCR - to run via 26-bit emulator (for how long?) SwiftJPEG - probably to run via 26-bit emulator? I want to run Linux alongside RiscOS - who knows when? SCSI card would be no go, therefore . . . Scanner - new one needed (USB device) Back-up - change to CDs; junk my (SCSI) Zip discs RiscTV - do without (Irlam Instruments gone awol?) So then I asked myself, what is the point of buying this lovely new machine and telling it to pretend for most of the time that it's the old one? Will the extra speed and screen-modes do that much for the one programme that will be using them, Ovation? So I took a big step back! Any views? -- Michael Talibard -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 9 19:46:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042141403:20:28528:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:46:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042141403:20:28528:68; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:43:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027399; 9 Jan 2003 19:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WiYc-0000CZ-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:41:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h09Jerh01343 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:40:53 GMT Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h09Jeqf01338 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:40:52 GMT Received: from du-069-1294.access.clara.net ([217.158.180.23] helo=amonra) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WiXr-0001eh-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:40:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:40:59 GMT From: James Carey To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Maat User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message Michael Talibard wrote: > This is a little bit off-topic - sorry. > > I got within a whisker of buying the Iyonix - even made > the phone call, but then I asked myself what, aside from > Ovation, was going to work on it without emulation? > > Maybe you guys have a quite different list of favourite > or essential software/hardware in mind, but to me the > following are what matter most: > Ovation Pro - the exception: will work in 32-bit. > Datapower - to run via 26-bit emulator (permanently) > Photodesk - to run via 26-bit emulator (permanently) > Sleuth OCR - to run via 26-bit emulator (for how long?) > SwiftJPEG - probably to run via 26-bit emulator? > I want to run Linux alongside RiscOS - who knows when? > SCSI card would be no go, therefore . . . > Scanner - new one needed (USB device) > Back-up - change to CDs; junk my (SCSI) Zip discs > RiscTV - do without (Irlam Instruments gone awol?) > > So then I asked myself, what is the point of buying this > lovely new machine and telling it to pretend for most of > the time that it's the old one? Will the extra speed and > screen-modes do that much for the one programme > that will be using them, Ovation? > > So I took a big step back! Any views? SwiftJPEG would run fine I'd expect since it is written in BASIC. Regards, -- James Carey -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 03:03:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042167246:20:21621:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:03:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042167246:20:21621:41; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:54:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120885; 10 Jan 2003 2:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18WpIb-0004bR-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:53:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0A2quQ25405 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:52:56 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0A2qtZ25400 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:52:55 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WpHy-0000yX-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:52:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:51:38 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please References: <4bb208d48esimon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >>I'm one of those said impulse users .... is it to be upgraded or patched? I've put a 26/32 bit version of the Impulse applet on the web site. So you can now use Impulse with Ovation Pro 2.70 on 26 bit machines. i.e. this removes a block to upgrading. And if you've got Impact for 32 bits you can use Impulse on Iyonix too. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 13:56:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042192005:10:00508:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:56:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042192005:10:00508:68; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:46:45 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1029842; 10 Jan 2003 9:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Wvja-0006YU-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:45:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0A9jgs28174 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:45:42 GMT Received: from gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk (gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk [132.185.240.17]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0A9jgB28170 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:45:42 GMT Received: from w12wcxi03.wc.bbc.co.uk (w12wcxi03.wc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.49.99]) by gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h0A9oPS06838 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:50:25 GMT Received: from w12wcxf01.wc.bbc.co.uk (unverified) by w12wcxi03.wc.bbc.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:44:52 +0000 Received: by w12wcxf01.wc.bbc.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:44:51 -0000 Message-ID: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> From: Michael Hunter To: "'softwarelist@davidpilling.net'" Subject: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:44:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist With all the flurry of activity I have got a bit confused about the present situation. I am running on RISCOS version 4.02 on StrongArm. If I want to upgrade to Ovation Pro 2.70 - I realise that there are a few applet which wont work but do I have to upgrade to the 32bit CLib? If I upgrade the CLib does all other applications continue to work? Sorry if this is obvious but I have got a bit confused Thanks for your responses Michael Hunter BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 13:57:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042191390:20:13312:117".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:57:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042191390:20:13312:117; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:36:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118636; 10 Jan 2003 9:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WvZA-0007AI-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:35:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0A9YUW25937 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:34:30 GMT Received: from alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk (alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.254.14]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0A9YTl25924 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:34:30 GMT Received: from stm2-60.static.port.ac.uk ([148.197.243.60] helo=ARMless) by alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18WvYa-000cpy-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:34:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Young To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:09:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Upgrade advice OP 2.67 -> 2.69 or 2.70, please Message-ID: <4bb2206511simon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb208d48esimon.young@port.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -99.8 (------------------------------------------) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18WvYa-000cpy-00*Rt9VFLNTjPA* Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David, On 09 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > There's no reason why you can't use the 26/32 bit applet on 26 bit > systems with the existing Impulse module. Maybe I should put it up on > the web site. Yes I'll do that and make it not load it's self contained > 26 bit Impulse module. Thanks for that ... I'll upgrade to the newer version of OPro then. Regards, Simon. -- Simon A. Young BPharm MRPharmS PhD ILTM | Tel: 023-9284-3610 Lecturer in Pharmaceutics | Fax: 023-9284-3565 University of Portsmouth | simon.young@port.ac.uk ================================================================== Please visit my web-site (pgp key available) located at: http://userwww.port.ac.uk/youngs ================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 13:57:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042200928:20:28670:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:57:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042200928:20:28670:64; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:15:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ac2127752; 10 Jan 2003 12:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18WxxY-00015i-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:08:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AC7YL32041 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:07:34 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AC7XD32029 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:07:34 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id h0AC7fMv026628 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:07:41 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:07:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] ArcFax 120 type=5 Message-ID: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I upgraded to ArcFax 1.20 today in place of my usual 1.19. I have the 32 bit CLIB etc installed on my Risc PC and OP and other 32 bit apps work fine. I tried to send a fax containing a page printed from OP 2.70 and a scanned document using TWAIN. Both brought up the little window where I clicked on View to see them and OK. I went to the Tx folder and selected the two faxes to merge them. When I click on Menu ArcFax quits with a type=5 error. I tried reprinting the two fax files, but always the same thing happened. I reverted to ArcFax 1.19 without rebooting but when I printed out a fax it didn't bring up the window. I quit ArcFax and found the ArcFaxFix module 0.8 was still there so I RMKilled it. Rebooting 1.19 then worked fine again. I then tried running 1.20 again, but this time it did type=5 when booting and never made it to the icon bar. ArcFaxFix 0.7 was resident so I RMKilled that. Rebooting 1.20 was now successful and it loaded ArcFaxFix 0.8, but it still did a type=5 error when I tried to merge faxes. So, I'm back with 1.19. Any ideas about 120 and ArcFaxFix 0.8? What does ArcFaxFix do anyway? Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 13:57:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042203196:20:29749:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:57:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042203196:20:29749:64; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:53:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114186; 10 Jan 2003 12:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Wye1-0003v4-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:52:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ACq9t11501 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:52:09 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0ACq9E11495 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:52:09 GMT Received: from iyonix ([194.106.52.185]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h0ACqGMv032277 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:52:17 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:52:27 GMT From: Peter Bell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax 120 type=5 Message-ID: <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.01) POPstar/2.04-32-pre4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> Ray Dawson wrote: > I went to the Tx folder and selected the two faxes to merge them. When I > click on Menu ArcFax quits with a type=5 error. I tried reprinting the > two fax files, but always the same thing happened. I discovered this one yesterday! I reported it directly to David and there is now a v1.21 on his web site! David suspects that this is caused by a bug in the compiler. -- Peter Bell - peter@bellfamily.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 14:16:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042207883:20:07011:103".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:16:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042207883:20:07011:103; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:11:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007351; 10 Jan 2003 14:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18WzrW-0002aR-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:10:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AEA9I00427 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:10:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AEA9n00424 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:10:09 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18WzrM-0007ej-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:08:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax 120 type=5 References: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I went to the Tx folder and selected the two faxes to merge them. When I >click on Menu ArcFax quits with a type=5 error. I tried reprinting the >two fax files, but always the same thing happened. Since yesterday a known bug, get ArcFax 1.21 off my web site. >I reverted to ArcFax 1.19 without rebooting but when I printed out a fax >it didn't bring up the window. Probably because you have it configured differently. > I quit ArcFax and found the ArcFaxFix >module 0.8 was still there so I RMKilled it. Rebooting 1.19 then worked >fine again. You can't mix the ArcFaxFix modules between versions. 1.20 forces the right one to be loaded, obviously when 1.19 was created I didn't know about the non-compatability. >Any ideas about 120 and ArcFaxFix 0.8? What does ArcFaxFix do anyway? Bad name, many people think it is some sort of bug fix. It's a module than handles the embedded commands {FaxTo: Bob} etc. It also handles some file processing. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 14:16:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042207738:10:22454:72".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:16:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042207738:10:22454:72; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:08:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1103999; 10 Jan 2003 14:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Wzp4-0003Cl-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:07:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AE6oQ31914 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:06:50 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AE6nT31907 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:06:49 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Wzo9-00073n-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:06:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:05:09 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I am running on RISCOS version 4.02 on StrongArm. If I want to upgrade to >Ovation Pro 2.70 - I realise that there are a few applet which wont work There aren't any applets that won't work on your machine, but you will have to replace a small number of those you have with the latest versions. > but >do I have to upgrade to the 32bit CLib? Yes. > If I upgrade the CLib does all other >applications continue to work? Yes. At least in theory, and as far as I know in practice. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 14:37:13 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042208384:20:20400:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:37:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042208384:20:20400:85; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:44 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2120594; 10 Jan 2003 14:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18WzvL-0003n7-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:14:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AEEAA01443 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:14:10 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AEEAr01439 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:14:10 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18WzvF-0001MM-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:12:41 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax 120 type=5 References: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> In-Reply-To: <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >David suspects that this is caused by a bug in the compiler. Although he's far too cautious to say such a thing in public. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 14:37:13 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042209110:20:10364:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:37:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042209110:20:10364:42; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:31:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2127305; 10 Jan 2003 14:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18X00Y-0003Pk-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AEJZb02650 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:35 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AEJYB02643 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:34 GMT Received: from iyonix ([194.106.52.185]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h0AEJhMv009871 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:43 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:19:54 GMT From: Peter Bell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.01) POPstar/2.04-32-pre4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > > If I upgrade the CLib does all other > >applications continue to work? > > Yes. > > At least in theory, and as far as I know in practice. I have found one application which misbehaves when the new CLib is installed - !Newsfind, which implements the Search facility for Newsbase. -- Peter Bell - peter@bellfamily.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 18:07:02 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042221621:20:28356:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:07:02 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042221621:20:28356:66; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:00:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027856; 10 Jan 2003 17:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18X3RD-0004E0-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:59:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AHxCf23881 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:59:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AHxBv23876 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:59:11 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18X3R1-0004Kh-0U; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:59:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:58:08 +0000 To: colinc@argonet.co.uk Cc: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> There aren't any applets that won't work on your machine, but you will >> have to replace a small number of those you have with the latest >> versions. >Is this also true for applets taken from the Resources site? > I'm not sure. There are no dynamically linked code applets on the Resource site - these are things like the Fill applet which have to be updated even on a 26 bit machine if you're upgrading to Ovation Pro 2.68 or later. So unless you have an Iyonix there is certainly no problem. However there may be some that use helper programs which are not 32 bit compatible and would cause trouble just on Iyonix. Peter Bond's Index program was a good example, but we've fixed that. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 20:17:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042229583:20:26908:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:17:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042229583:20:26908:51; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:13:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2100700; 10 Jan 2003 20:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18X5Vv-00036o-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:12:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AKB1911956 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:11:01 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AKB0Z11943 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:11:00 GMT Received: from [213.116.60.138] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18X5UV-0005uF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:10:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:34:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 09 Jan, James Carey wrote: > SwiftJPEG would run fine I'd expect since it is written in BASIC. Doesn't show any problems. Still faster than ChangeFSI, which of course is way faster than on a typical RPC. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 22:07:06 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042236202:20:08827:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:07:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042236202:20:08827:40; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:03:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007546; 10 Jan 2003 22:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18X7EI-0003q9-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:02:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AM19m28607 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:01:09 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AM18428600 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:01:08 GMT Received: from [62.188.108.235] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18X7D7-0000Mi-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:01:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:59:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >I received my Scanner yesterday, to use with my Iyonix. I had > >already upgraded DPSS to run on the new machine. I installed the > >Twain driver as instructed in the readme file (different from the > >book) [and it does forget to tell you that with Twain hidden in > >the Boot folder a Re-Boot is needed]. Anyway, I get it all set up > >and on clicking on "Scan" DPSS gives a type 5 error. So, I can't > >use the scanner. > A double click on !TWAIN is all that is needed to make it current > and accessible. > The first thing that springs to mind, is have you upgraded USB on > the Iyonix. You need a USB system from 24th December or later. > Originally Castle were supplying this on the TWAIN floppy - I don't > know if they still are. > Check the Device menu in the TWAIN driver, I would guess it is > defaulting to USB, but best to check. > F12, and then *USBDevices or the neat little desktop thing from > XAT, to check that the Iyonix is seeing the scanner. I have exactly the same problem. !Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make sure. In DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but File>Acquire gives a type 5 error. I'm on the latest Iyonix upgrades, and *USBDevices shows the scanner as present, with its details from *USBdevinfo corresponding to those in USBdevs (also re-clicked to make sure). Just for fun, I ran DPSS on the RiscPC, straight from the floppy, then double-clicked on !Twain, straight from its floppy: no scanner connected, of course. The Twain driver appeared on clicking Acquire, and looked very pretty. Repeating the exercise on the Iyonix (also with no scanner connected) straight from floppy, there was several seconds floppy disk activity before the type 5 error came up as before. Hope this helps. The scanner works fine with the PC. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 10 22:17:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042236926:10:24792:91".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:17:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042236926:10:24792:91; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:15:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1109390; 10 Jan 2003 22:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18X7Qg-0006dk-00; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:15:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0AMF1e30729 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:15:01 GMT Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0AMF1T30725 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:15:01 GMT Received: from localhost.com ([213.78.66.250]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AOV06622; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:16:06 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:12:21 GMT From: Ed Donnelly To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4579d0b24b.eddonnelly@freeuk.com> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: You must be joking User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Lo, in message <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> Richard Partridge did write: [snip] > Just for fun, I ran DPSS on the RiscPC, straight from the floppy, > then double-clicked on !Twain, straight from its floppy: no scanner > connected, of course. The Twain driver appeared on clicking Acquire, > and looked very pretty. Repeating the exercise on the Iyonix (also > with no scanner connected) straight from floppy, there was several > seconds floppy disk activity before the type 5 error came up as > before. Hope this helps. > > The scanner works fine with the PC. And, assuming this is the Epson Perfection 1660 Photo, it works fine on a RISC PC via the Simtec USB card. SA, 128+2Mb, OS 4.02, using the 32-bit C-lib and as many 32-bitted programmes as I can get (it's a giggle). Latest DPingScan, TWAIN driver as supplied. TTFN, Ed -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 02:07:14 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042250694:10:19826:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:07:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042250694:10:19826:41; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:04:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1122466; 11 Jan 2003 2:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XB0d-0003P8-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:04:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0B23Lo20711 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:03:21 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0B23Kj20708 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:03:20 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18XAzY-0006tX-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:03:20 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:02:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >!Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make sure. In >DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but File>Acquire gives a type >5 error. OK, it hadn't sunk in that the above was the position. I suspect we won't get to the bottom of this without some close co-operation. As of now my suggestion, is to find the file !TWAIN.Sources.EpsonGT.UK.Config Load it into Edit, find the token 'Device' and set that to a value of 8, for USB it should be -3. A value of 8 is undefined device, means the window will open without accessing the hardware. Can you now get the driver window open? If so, set the device from the menu, and do a scan (without closing the window). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 03:07:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042254166:20:11657:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:07:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042254166:20:11657:42; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:02:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2011558; 11 Jan 2003 3:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XBuc-0006yN-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:02:18 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0B326924283 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:02:06 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0B325O24280 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:02:05 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18XBuP-0002oZ-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:02:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:01:03 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4579d0b24b.eddonnelly@freeuk.com> In-Reply-To: <4579d0b24b.eddonnelly@freeuk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >And, assuming this is the Epson Perfection 1660 Photo, it works fine on >a RISC PC via the Simtec USB card. SA, 128+2Mb, OS 4.02, using the >32-bit C-lib and as many 32-bitted programmes as I can get (it's a >giggle). Latest DPingScan, TWAIN driver as supplied. Since Simtec won't release 32 bit versions of their USB libraries any Epson driver supporting the Simtec card is pure 26 bit. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 13:37:36 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042287457:10:29496:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:37:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042287457:10:29496:60; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:17:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111063; 11 Jan 2003 12:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XKZM-00089W-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BCGUp10086 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:30 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BCGUQ10082 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:30 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.93] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XKYu-0002uA-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 10 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > In message > David Pilling wrote: > > > If I upgrade the CLib does all other > > >applications continue to work? > > > > Yes. > > > > At least in theory, and as far as I know in practice. > I have found one application which misbehaves when the new > CLib is installed - !Newsfind, which implements the Search > facility for Newsbase. What about the later 32 bit version of that? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 13:37:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042287483:20:02917:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:37:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042287483:20:02917:39; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:18:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001699; 11 Jan 2003 12:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XKZM-00089X-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BCGSP10076 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:28 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BCGRc10072 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:27 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.93] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XKYr-0002uA-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:16:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax 120 type=5 Message-ID: <4bb2cb0b05steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 10 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > >David suspects that this is caused by a bug in the compiler. > Although he's far too cautious to say such a thing in public. Seems fair enough, there have been suggestions that the original release is not quite right. There is allegedly an upgrade (suitably obscurely located) -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 13:56:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042293145:20:11885:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:56:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042293145:20:11885:44; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:52:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2011797; 11 Jan 2003 13:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XM3U-0005Bo-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:52:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BDp3W22875 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:51:03 GMT Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BDp3E22869 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:51:03 GMT Received: from localhost.com (213-78-89-151.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.89.151]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AOJ76348; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:49:06 GMT Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:51:02 GMT From: Ed Donnelly To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <856926b34b.eddonnelly@freeuk.com> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4579d0b24b.eddonnelly@freeuk.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: You must be joking User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Lo, in message David Pilling did write: [snip] > Since Simtec won't release 32 bit versions of their USB libraries any > Epson driver supporting the Simtec card is pure 26 bit. I'll get my coat... ;) TTFN, Ed -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 14:06:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042293621:20:22757:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:06:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042293621:20:22757:45; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:00:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022430; 11 Jan 2003 13:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XMAw-0005Wb-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:59:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BDxaw24040 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:59:36 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BDxZ124035 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:59:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18XMAh-0005ai-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:59:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:58:01 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >!Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make sure. In >DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but File>Acquire gives a type >5 error. Suggestion from Castle is that some drivers have shipped with the !Install file inside !EpsonGT RMloading the ScanUtils module The latter is for parallel port operation and not 32 bit. Fix - comment out the line in !Install loading it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 14:56:56 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042296812:20:02302:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:56:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042296812:20:02302:43; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:53:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002717; 11 Jan 2003 14:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XN0j-0006l7-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:53:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BEqGx31578 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:52:16 GMT Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BEqF331575 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:52:15 GMT Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.49.228]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H8K1AJ02.BUV for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:51:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:52:02 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro 2.70 Message-ID: <4bb32bff31paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear Mr. Pilling, OPro 2.70 works fine indeed. But the slow text rendering on the Iyonix still exists. Probably you know this already since long, but I found out that Enhanced Justification is at least one of the culprits. When switched off, text renders lightning fast. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 15:06:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042297322:10:07027:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:06:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042297322:10:07027:39; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:02:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006253; 11 Jan 2003 15:01 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XN8P-0007ZS-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:01:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BF1CE00597 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:01:12 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BF1C400593 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:01:12 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id h0BF1JMv019494 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:01:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:00:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: ArcFax 120 type=5 Message-ID: <4bb32cc0ecray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <6a369db24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>, Peter Bell wrote: > In message <4bb2991504ray@raydawson.com> Ray Dawson > wrote: > > I went to the Tx folder and selected the two faxes to merge them. > > When I click on Menu ArcFax quits with a type=5 error. I tried > > reprinting the two fax files, but always the same thing happened. > I discovered this one yesterday! I reported it directly to David and > there is now a v1.21 on his web site! > David suspects that this is caused by a bug in the compiler. Thanks Peter and David. I downloaded 1.21 and it works fine. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 15:26:57 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042298451:20:11947:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:26:57 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042298451:20:11947:51; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:20:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114627; 11 Jan 2003 15:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XNQx-0000VC-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:20:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BFKM903675 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:20:22 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BFKMH03669 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:20:22 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18XNQr-000Lia-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:20:21 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:19:17 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro 2.70 References: <+$kL$KHS9GH+Ew9g@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4bb32bff31paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4bb32bff31paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >OPro 2.70 works fine indeed. But the slow text rendering on the Iyonix >still exists. Probably you know this already since long, but I found out >that Enhanced Justification is at least one of the culprits. When switched >off, text renders lightning fast. Hmm. We await Castle doing something about it, or saying they are not going to do something about it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 21:50:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042317474:20:29352:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:50:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042317474:20:29352:48; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:37:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116214; 11 Jan 2003 20:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XSNc-00075s-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:37:20 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BKaEO31713 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:36:14 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BKaEb31710 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:36:14 GMT Received: from [62.188.174.127] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XSMV-00005Z-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:36:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: <4bb34a2712steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 11 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > In message <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> > Steven Pampling wrote: > > On 10 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > > > I have found one application which misbehaves when the new > > > CLib is installed - !Newsfind, which implements the Search > > > facility for Newsbase. > > > > What about the later 32 bit version of that? > I wasn't aware that there was a 32-bit version available! > Where can it be obtained, please? Presumably at R-Comp. The copy of Messenger Lite on the Iyonix has a placeholder for it (just produces a message about needing a 32 bit version to run searches. There is a small bit of Basic labelled NewsFind (no !) > However, I was pointing out that not all applications compiled > with the old 26-bit compiler behave as the should when run with > the new 32-bit SharedCLibrary. This is contrary to the info > provided with the new CLib, and was a direct answer to the > original question. -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 21:50:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042307516:10:01805:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:50:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042307516:10:01805:47; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:51:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1125922; 11 Jan 2003 17:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XPnE-0004hY-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:51:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BHoYm01696 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:50:34 GMT Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BHoXZ01693 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:50:33 GMT Received: from iyonix ([194.106.52.185]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id h0BHogMv028428 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:50:42 GMT Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:48:20 GMT From: Peter Bell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.70a (MsgServe/2.10) (RISC-OS/5.01) POPstar/2.04-32-pre4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> Steven Pampling wrote: > On 10 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > > I have found one application which misbehaves when the new > > CLib is installed - !Newsfind, which implements the Search > > facility for Newsbase. > > What about the later 32 bit version of that? I wasn't aware that there was a 32-bit version available! Where can it be obtained, please? However, I was pointing out that not all applications compiled with the old 26-bit compiler behave as the should when run with the new 32-bit SharedCLibrary. This is contrary to the info provided with the new CLib, and was a direct answer to the original question. -- Peter Bell - peter@bellfamily.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 22:10:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042322435:10:05116:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:10:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042322435:10:05116:41; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:00:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005099; 11 Jan 2003 22:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XTfi-0000eG-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:00:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BLwp209561 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:51 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BLwo909556 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:50 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18XTeU-000C2a-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:50 +0000 Message-ID: <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:57:27 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> In-Reply-To: <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >However, I was pointing out that not all applications compiled >with the old 26-bit compiler behave as the should when run with >the new 32-bit SharedCLibrary. This is contrary to the info >provided with the new CLib, and was a direct answer to the >original question. > Very bad news for software developers if anyone ever finds out, because I do not want to support two versions of everything. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 11 23:00:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042325681:20:27522:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:00:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042325681:20:27522:43; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:54:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2123135; 11 Jan 2003 22:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XUVi-0002Xp-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0BMrWk16169 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:32 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0BMrWC16166 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:32 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.180.85]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030111225330.RMMZ22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:30 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D72BEBB for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 11 Jan 2003 22:53:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:53:29 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: <181358b34b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 11 Jan, in message <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: >>However, I was pointing out that not all applications compiled >>with the old 26-bit compiler behave as the should when run with >>the new 32-bit SharedCLibrary. This is contrary to the info >>provided with the new CLib, and was a direct answer to the >>original question. >> > >Very bad news for software developers if anyone ever finds out, because >I do not want to support two versions of everything. As I understand it, NewsFind is the *only* application which is affected by the new 26/32-bit Shared C Library. But I'm not sure if it is any particular version: MessengerPro users are supplied with version 2.31, where as the latest is 2.32! Additionally, the author (Tony Houghton) may feel inclinded to re-compile it with the new tools. Does anyone who uses Newsfind want to ask him about it? Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sun Jan 12 02:00:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042336729:10:00585:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:00:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042336729:10:00585:45; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:58:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1107833; 12 Jan 2003 1:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XXO0-0000pP-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:58:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0C1v6C31448 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:57:06 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0C1v5O31444 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:57:05 GMT Received: from [62.188.110.116] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XXN0-00073R-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:57:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 01:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >!Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make > >sure. In DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but File>Acquire > >gives a type 5 error. > OK, it hadn't sunk in that the above was the position. I suspect we > won't get to the bottom of this without some close co-operation. > As of now my suggestion, is to find the file > !TWAIN.Sources.EpsonGT.UK.Config > Load it into Edit, find the token 'Device' and set that to a value > of 8, for USB it should be -3. A value of 8 is undefined device, > means the window will open without accessing the hardware. > Can you now get the driver window open? > If so, set the device from the menu, and do a scan (without closing > the window). Well, well: we seem to be the victim of a typographical misplacement (technically known as finger trouble). 'Device' was shown as -4; setting it to -3, the Twain window opens in DPSS. It's getting late, so I'll put off trying a scan until tomorrow, but it looks as if you've cracked it. Many thanks! In response to Castle's suggestion, the RMload ScanUtils line is already commented out in !Install, as it should be. Incidentally, when getting the floppies corrected, I suspect the directories !Boot.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.USB and !Boot.RO500Hook.Boot.PreDesk.USB should be removed, as they will crash the machine if the new !Run USB file is present, and I'd hate to have Mr Ballance making yet more 'phone calls. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sun Jan 12 13:51:11 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042340197:20:10980:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:51:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042340197:20:10980:40; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:56:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104538; 12 Jan 2003 2:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18XYIL-0003Ak-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:56:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0C2tHu02812 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:55:17 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0C2tH202809 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:55:17 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18XYHN-0001oT-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:55:17 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 02:53:43 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Well, well: we seem to be the victim of a typographical misplacement >(technically known as finger trouble). 'Device' was shown as -4; >setting it to -3, the Twain window opens in DPSS. It's getting late, >so I'll put off trying a scan until tomorrow, but it looks as if No, I've got it wrong, -4 *is* the code for Castle, -3 the code for Simtec. I must have looked at a copy of the driver talking to the Simtec card. However you've provided some of the data I wanted. You now need to; (1) Edit the Config file and enter 8 for the device (2) Open the window, use the device menu to set Castle USB (3) Try a scan. You may get away without (1), leaving the value at -3. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:40:59 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042396652:20:23546:69".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:40:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042396652:20:23546:69; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:37:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025845; 12 Jan 2003 18:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Xmyr-00075n-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:37:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0CIabF18644 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:37 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0CIaaT18641 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:36 GMT Received: from [62.188.105.135] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XmyE-00074D-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:27:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 12 Jan, rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk wrote: > In article , David Pilling > wrote: > > >!Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make > > >sure. In DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but > > >File>Acquire gives a type 5 error. > > OK, it hadn't sunk in that the above was the position. I suspect > > we won't get to the bottom of this without some close > > co-operation. > > As of now my suggestion, is to find the file > > !TWAIN.Sources.EpsonGT.UK.Config > > Load it into Edit, find the token 'Device' and set that to a > > value of 8, for USB it should be -3. A value of 8 is undefined > > device, means the window will open without accessing the hardware. > > Can you now get the driver window open? > > If so, set the device from the menu, and do a scan (without > > closing the window). > Well, well: we seem to be the victim of a typographical > misplacement (technically known as finger trouble). 'Device' was > shown as -4; setting it to -3, the Twain window opens in DPSS. It's > getting late, so I'll put off trying a scan until tomorrow, but it > looks as if you've cracked it. Many thanks! Aargh! Honest, DPSS put up the Twain window when I tried it last night on the Iyonix, but today I'm back to square one. I've made 100% sure I'm on the right copy of !Twain by using the floppy so that I can hear it working. Whether Device is set to 8 or -3, and whether the scanner is connected or not I still get a type 5 error on clicking 'Acquire'. For good measure I've set LastDev to 8 and -3 as well. Presumably, other things I had been doing had affected it, so I've tried loading up the few applications I have on the Iyonix, to no effect (incidentally discovering that when Ovation Pro and CDBurn Light are already on the iconbar, Share FS refuses to load, saying 'Unable to allocate logical address space'). I had connected up the scanner and switched it on before powering up the Iyonix today. Could this have written anything to a file? And I was getting so optimistic..... Thanks in advance for your help. Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:41:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042489853:20:24285:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:41:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042489853:20:24285:47; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:30:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024364; 13 Jan 2003 20:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YBE5-00028E-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:30:29 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0DKU1i20191 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:30:01 GMT Received: from mxout1.netvision.net.il (mxout1.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.20]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0DKU0S20159 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:30:00 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.35.224]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8O003WD69SE2@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:29:52 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:29:22 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E2321A2.4050005@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have noticed recently that a document may end up with a large number of fonts 'embedded' into it, even though they are no longer used by any styles of effects. This affects Postscript output in particular, as all the fonts get defined, resulting in a very large file. Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via a DDL version of the file. Could there be a better way possible? Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:41:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042495991:20:18942:81".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:41:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042495991:20:18942:81; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:13:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2123765; 13 Jan 2003 22:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YCoR-0005cF-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:12:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0DMBOZ08126 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:11:24 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0DMBNS08113 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:11:23 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust121.tnt28.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.150.121] with SMTP for id XAA17120 (8.8.8/1.3); Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:08:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <003801c2bb50$ff30c800$799674d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:07:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Mon 13 Jan, "Mike Williams" wrote: > on 13/1/03 9:29 pm, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > > > I have noticed recently that a document may end up with a large > > number of fonts 'embedded' into it, even though they are no longer > > used by any styles of effects. This affects Postscript output > > in particular, as all the fonts get defined, resulting in a very > > large file. > > > > Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with > > each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete > > it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via > > a DDL version of the file. > > > > Could there be a better way possible? > > > > Michael Ben-Gershon > > It is irritating, but it is easy to have things like spaces, Returns, tabs > etc in the 'wrong' fonts which can't be readily identified. I know of no > immediate answer, though it helps to minimise these problems if styles are > used as much as possible, rather than effects. Styles give more control. > In my experience fonts which are not used do not normally appear in > PostScript. > But be wary of fonts embedded in Draw and ArtWorks files which OP may not > 'know' about. OP doesn't know fonts embedded in Draw of Artworks files, when these fonts aren't used in OP text frames. Using the FontList applet shows only the fonts used in OP (not in graphic frames). There can also be named fonts in the undo buffer of Artworks files (when saved with the undo buffer), which aren't used in the actual Artworks file. > What would be useful would be a facility to select a font, and have a > 'search and replace' to change eacxh occurence to a different font. As far as the fonts are *known*, the not-wanted fonts can be made harmless before printing to PostScript, when loading an OP doc with only the fonts used installed (and the not-used ones substituted) doesn't do the job. They can be made harmless by using !FontPrint and map these fonts to Times or Helvetica (like Trinity or Homerton). Be aware: quit !Printers after these maps are made and reload !Printers to make these maps active. Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:41:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042522601:20:14755:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:41:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042522601:20:14755:48; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 05:36:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2014523; 14 Jan 2003 5:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YJkG-0008JO-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 05:36:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0E5ZVu19851 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 05:35:31 GMT Received: from mxout3.netvision.net.il (mxout3.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.24]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0E5ZUo19848 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 05:35:30 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.40.140]) by mxout3.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8O003Z3VIZI9@mxout3.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:35:24 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:34:52 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E23A17C.8040506@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Mike Williams wrote: > on 13/1/03 9:29 pm, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > > >>I have noticed recently that a document may end up with a large >>number of fonts 'embedded' into it, even though they are no longer >>used by any styles of effects. This affects Postscript output >>in particular, as all the fonts get defined, resulting in a very >>large file. >> >>Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with >>each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete >>it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via >>a DDL version of the file. >> >>Could there be a better way possible? >> >>Michael Ben-Gershon > > > It is irritating, but it is easy to have things like spaces, Returns, tabs > etc in the 'wrong' fonts which can't be readily identified. I know of no > immediate answer, though it helps to minimise these problems if styles are > used as much as possible, rather than effects. Styles give more control. In > my experience fonts which are not used do not normally appear in PostScript. > But be wary of fonts embedded in Draw and ArtWorks files which OP may not > 'know' about. That is not what I was saying. I was referring to a situation where exemining the DDL shows that the fonts are not referrenced ANYWHERE. They are just defined as fonts at the top of the document. Surely OPro could eliminate such definitions? Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From chrism@spuddy.mew.co.uk Tue Jan 14 16:42:03 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042386618:10:11894:35".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:42:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042386618:10:11894:35; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:50:18 GMT Received: from smtp2.global.net.uk ([80.189.94.52]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129132; 12 Jan 2003 15:50 GMT Received: from gr.189.25.157.dial.global.net.uk ([80.189.25.157] helo=waitrose.com) by smtp2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18XkN9-000DtL-00 for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:50:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:36:29 +0000 From: Chris Manning To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Clarification needed Message-ID: <4BB39DEE24%chrism@spuddy.mew.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: cgm@waitrose.com X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS Organization: Organisation? Er, no... X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21 (22 Aug 1998) beta X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.68a User-Agent: POPstar/2.03 In message <5heqYUAHNJI+Ew1x@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: [Peter Bell] >> However, I was pointing out that not all applications compiled >> with the old 26-bit compiler behave as the should when run with >> the new 32-bit SharedCLibrary. > Very bad news for software developers if anyone ever finds out, because > I do not want to support two versions of everything. I wish PB would stop spreading panic. :-( Here are the facts. 1. NewsFind doesn't work with Newbase 0.68 or later if the 32-bit C library's installed, but it works with (all?) older versions of Newsbase. 2. A single line change to the Newsbase 0.68 !RunImage (it's BASIC!) fixes the problem for me. 3. PB's so keen to blame the C library that he won't even try my fix. Obviously something's changed, but I suspect the bug's likely to be in Newsbase (or, maybe, NewsFind). In message you wrote: > Since Simtec won't release 32 bit versions of their USB libraries any > Epson driver supporting the Simtec card is pure 26 bit. Is there any way of telling whether an Absolute or a Module is 32-bit? A flag in the header, perhaps? Chris From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:42:05 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042396648:10:05402:87".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:42:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042396648:10:05402:87; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:37:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1102951; 12 Jan 2003 18:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Xmyr-00075m-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:37:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0CIaZe18638 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:35 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0CIaYJ18634 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:35 GMT Received: from [62.188.105.135] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18XmyG-00074D-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:36:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:34:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Site licence Message-ID: <4bb3c42ff9rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear David, Having now acquired an Iyonix, I am planning to keep the RiscPC, and my wife and I would like to be able to use Ovation Pro at the same time on both machines. Do you have a site licence charge, or should we simply buy another copy of the software from you? I ask this publicly, as I dare say I'm not the only one who needs to know. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:42:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042426962:10:11386:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:42:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042426962:10:11386:49; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:02:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1103443; 13 Jan 2003 3:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Xurm-000677-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:02:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0D31ON22283 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:01:24 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0D31NR22279 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:01:24 GMT Received: from [62.188.108.59] (helo=argonet) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Xuqm-0001gH-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:01:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 03:00:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk>, Richard Partridge wrote: > On 12 Jan, rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk wrote: > > In article , David Pilling > > wrote: > > > >!Twain is in Boot.Resources, but I double-click on it to make > > > >sure. In DPSS, File>Select Source shows EpsonGT, but > > > >File>Acquire gives a type 5 error. > long snip while I try out David's suggestion............ > Honest, DPSS put up the Twain window when I tried it last night on > the Iyonix, but today I'm back to square one. > snip ........ I think I may have got close to cracking the problem. If, immediately before running DPSS, I double-click on !Boot.Resources.!Twain.Sources.!EpsonGT.!Install or !RunImage, then 1) DPSS's menu icons are not present 2) Twain works. This seems to be repeatable, so as a temporary expedient I have added a line to DPSS's !Run file to run !Install. The Twain window appears whatever value I have for 'Device' in the Config file, and I have checked that the scanner operates with the supplied value of -4. Hope this helps. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 16:42:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042492388:10:28962:65".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:42:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042492388:10:28962:65; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:13:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1027261; 13 Jan 2003 21:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YBrq-0006D6-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0DLBSA28158 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:28 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0DLBNd28145 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:23 GMT Received: from [81.96.125.247] by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030113211122.IOWH900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@[81.96.125.247]> for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:11:22 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:09:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts From: Mike Williams To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3E2321A2.4050005@netvision.net.il> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist on 13/1/03 9:29 pm, Michael Ben-Gershon wrote: > I have noticed recently that a document may end up with a large > number of fonts 'embedded' into it, even though they are no longer > used by any styles of effects. This affects Postscript output > in particular, as all the fonts get defined, resulting in a very > large file. > > Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with > each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete > it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via > a DDL version of the file. > > Could there be a better way possible? > > Michael Ben-Gershon It is irritating, but it is easy to have things like spaces, Returns, tabs etc in the 'wrong' fonts which can't be readily identified. I know of no immediate answer, though it helps to minimise these problems if styles are used as much as possible, rather than effects. Styles give more control. In my experience fonts which are not used do not normally appear in PostScript. But be wary of fonts embedded in Draw and ArtWorks files which OP may not 'know' about. What would be useful would be a facility to select a font, and have a 'search and replace' to change eacxh occurence to a different font. Mike Williams -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 18:20:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042567959:10:12695:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042567959:10:12695:58; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:12:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ad1012179; 14 Jan 2003 18:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YVR0-000882-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:10 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EI50S20732 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:00 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EI4xm20727 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:04:59 GMT Received: from [62.188.130.99] (helo=62.188.130.99) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18YVQm-0001z9-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:04:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:34:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk>, Richard Partridge wrote: > I think I may have got close to cracking the problem. > If, immediately before running DPSS, I double-click on > !Boot.Resources.!Twain.Sources.!EpsonGT.!Install or !RunImage, then > 1) DPSS's menu icons are not present > 2) Twain works. It seems to work for me too. > This seems to be repeatable, so as a temporary expedient I have added > a line to DPSS's !Run file to run !Install. Can you tell me the mod needed, please. but I can't find the scanner, yet. Not seen on USB devices. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 18:20:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042567959:10:12725:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042567959:10:12725:51; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:12:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1012139; 14 Jan 2003 18:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YVRf-0008EO-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:51 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EI5oI20923 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:50 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EI5op20916 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:50 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18YVRe-000JeQ-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:05:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:04:16 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >If, immediately before running DPSS, I double-click on >!Boot.Resources.!Twain.Sources.!EpsonGT.!Install or !RunImage, then That will be putting the driver module into memory. Why might that fix things? Could stop another version being loaded or help with memory allocation problems. > >1) DPSS's menu icons are not present There appears to be a known problem on Iyonix. It seems to happen if the menus are stored at addresses with the top bit set. Whether DPSS ends up running at such addresses depends on the order things are run in, and the rate at which memory addresses are consumed. There's been some sort of thing about Messenger, if run, consuming all the addresses in the machine. There's a Run file tweek to stop this happening. Note I talk about addresses above, not memory. Memory isn't a problem, addresses to locate it at are. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 18:20:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042567999:10:12695:229".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042567999:10:12695:229; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:13:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ai1012139; 14 Jan 2003 18:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YVGj-0006EX-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:54:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EHsVH18372 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:54:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EHsUb18365 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:54:30 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18YVGg-00062Q-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:54:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:52:57 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Site licence References: <4bb3c42ff9rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb3c42ff9rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Having now acquired an Iyonix, I am planning to keep the RiscPC, and >my wife and I would like to be able to use Ovation Pro at the same >time on both machines. >Do you have a site licence charge, or should we simply buy another >copy of the software from you? My position has always been to not charge for site licences in a domestic environment. Or at least to not charge for use on up to and including 2 machines. Normally two copies won't be in use at the same time, so why should you have to pay. (are you listening Microsoft...). -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 18:20:31 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042568039:10:14689:104".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:20:31 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042568039:10:14689:104; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:13:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1013914; 14 Jan 2003 18:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YVFR-00060t-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:53:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EHqcp18004 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:52:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EHqbO18000 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:52:38 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18YVEi-0005li-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:52:29 +0000 Message-ID: <78x6v3D+3EJ+EwtE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:50:54 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts References: <3E2321A2.4050005@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <3E2321A2.4050005@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with >each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete >it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via >a DDL version of the file. This is a known bug, OP counts font uses, but obviously gets the count wrong in some circumstances. Or got it wrong in the past. I am surprised this upsets PS printing, my hazy recollection is that when printing OP scans just what is to be printed and tells the PS driver about the fonts in it. Fonts in graphics are separate to all this. They're declared to the PS driver and more recent versions of OP can warn you on document load that graphics fonts are not available. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 18:50:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042570213:20:16429:115".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:50:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042570213:20:16429:115; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:50:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2119796; 14 Jan 2003 18:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YW7c-0000K2-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:49:12 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EIn3B30322 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:49:03 GMT Received: from mxout1.netvision.net.il (mxout1.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.20]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EIn2x30318 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:49:02 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.33.59]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8P0067SW9J69@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:48:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:48:24 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro fonts In-reply-to: <78x6v3D+3EJ+EwtE@pilling.demon.co.uk> To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E245B78.6040008@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: <3E2321A2.4050005@netvision.net.il> <78x6v3D+3EJ+EwtE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: >> Surely OP must have some form of data structure associated with >> each font, so it can tell if it is no longer referenced and delete >> it from the document? I have found the only way to do it is via >> a DDL version of the file. > > > This is a known bug, OP counts font uses, but obviously gets the count > wrong in some circumstances. Or got it wrong in the past. > > I am surprised this upsets PS printing, my hazy recollection is that > when printing OP scans just what is to be printed and tells the PS > driver about the fonts in it. This was not a font in a graphic, but in a document. It was not in use anywhere. Its definition made ghostscript crash (I print postscript from the Acorn machine to a 'virtual' postscript printer on a Linux machine which sends the postscript through a filter which uses ghostscript to send it to the actual printer - it is MUCH faster than printing via the Acorn 600 dpi driver for my printer). When I examined the postscript it had the font defined in it. Removing the font definition from the DDL made the font definition in the postscript output disappear. > Fonts in graphics are separate to all this. They're declared to the PS > driver and more recent versions of OP can warn you on document load that > graphics fonts are not available. > Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 19:50:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042573599:20:28582:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:50:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042573599:20:28582:59; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:46:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114952; 14 Jan 2003 19:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YX0M-0001rE-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:45:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EJjLw09908 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:45:21 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EJjKP09905 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:45:20 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YWzw-0000h7-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:45:20 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:43:52 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >but I can't find the scanner, yet. Not seen on USB devices. John Ballance at Castle replies... thats odd.. but if you cannot see it on usbdevices, then you wont get anywhere.. please 1: check usbdriver 0.10 and ochidriver 0.06 2: scanner off at power, then on again 3: *usbdevices any luck? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 21:40:35 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042580049:10:21914:237".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:40:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042580049:10:21914:237; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:34:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1101313; 14 Jan 2003 21:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YYfv-0001b0-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:32:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ELW7d31343 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:32:07 GMT Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0ELW6E31337 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:32:06 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.40.162]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8Q008QM3TC1O@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:32:00 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:31:29 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I downloaded the new FontFix module from your website. It wreaks havoc with fonts on Risc OS Select (RO 4.33). Are you aware of this? I have no idea whether it causes problems with other versions of the OS, but reverting to the old FontFix cured the problem. Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 22:00:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042581038:20:05710:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:00:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042581038:20:05710:49; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:50:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2004648; 14 Jan 2003 21:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YYwL-0004Mq-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ELnZG02390 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0ELnYZ02387 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YYwA-0003pj-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:34 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:47:56 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >I downloaded the new FontFix module from your website. It wreaks >havoc with fonts on Risc OS Select (RO 4.33). Are you aware of this? No. >I have no idea whether it causes problems with other versions of >the OS, but reverting to the old FontFix cured the problem. hey but it's 32 bit compatible. I wonder what the symptoms look like? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 14 22:10:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042581964:10:19746:355".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:10:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042581964:10:19746:355; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:06:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1125617; 14 Jan 2003 22:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YZBm-0005Rm-00; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0EM5Zr05412 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0EM5Zl05409 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YZBe-0006RQ-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:05:35 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:04:33 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist These Type 5's with the Epson driver. I'm confident this is a bug in the Epson driver which is set off by high bit memory addresses. It should be resolved very soon, but you'll need a new driver and that may come from Castle, rather than me. Workaround is to avoid high bit memory addresses - run DPSS and open the Scan window before anything else. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 02:10:44 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042596179:20:10471:67".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:10:44 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042596179:20:10471:67; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:02:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010479; 15 Jan 2003 2:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YctB-00075U-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:02:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F220Z03965 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:02:00 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F21xV03955 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:02:00 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YcsR-0006X6-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:00:26 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I'm confident this is a bug in the Epson driver which is set off by >high bit memory addresses. It should be resolved very soon, but you'll >need a new driver and that may come from Castle, rather than me. If you're interested, it seems to be the Draw_ProcessPath SWI one register is a combined pointer and top bit flag - such things won't work on machines with 32 bit address space. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 03:20:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042600663:10:02401:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:20:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042600663:10:02401:49; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:17:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002519; 15 Jan 2003 3:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Ye3Z-00087L-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:17:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F3G7P10118 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:07 GMT Received: from oracle.uk.clara.net (oracle.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F3G6V10114 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:06 GMT Received: from du-011-0246.freeuk.com ([212.126.154.246] helo=freeuk) by oracle.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 18Ye29-000P4Q-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:41:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Site licence Message-ID: <4bb4f871e2rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb3c42ff9rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Having now acquired an Iyonix, I am planning to keep the RiscPC, > >and my wife and I would like to be able to use Ovation Pro at the > >same time on both machines. Do you have a site licence charge, or > >should we simply buy another copy of the software from you? > My position has always been to not charge for site licences in a > domestic environment. Or at least to not charge for use on up to > and including 2 machines. > Normally two copies won't be in use at the same time, so why should > you have to pay. (are you listening Microsoft...). Microsoft or most RiscOS companies! How very generous of you. Thank you. Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 03:20:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042600663:10:02431:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:20:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042600663:10:02431:40; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:17:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1112459; 15 Jan 2003 3:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Ye3Z-0003kj-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:17:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F3G6n10111 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:06 GMT Received: from oracle.uk.clara.net (oracle.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F3G5w10106 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:05 GMT Received: from du-011-0246.freeuk.com ([212.126.154.246] helo=freeuk) by oracle.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 18Ye28-000P4Q-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:16:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Partridge To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb4f7fdcbrkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > These Type 5's with the Epson driver. > I'm confident this is a bug in the Epson driver which is set off by > high bit memory addresses. It should be resolved very soon, but > you'll need a new driver and that may come from Castle, rather > than me. > Workaround is to avoid high bit memory addresses - run DPSS and > open the Scan window before anything else. But the type 5 error prevents you from opening the scan window! Further to my last one, putting the line to run !Install into DPSS's run file wasn't a good idea; with a freshly-reset Iyonix, running !Install gives the message "SWI &469C1 not known". The drill is to run DPSS (unadulterated), close it down, then run !Install (which I've put on the pinboard for convenience), then run DPSS again. In most of my experiments I've run DPSS on a clean machine, apart from ShareFS and Patience. Regards, Richard Partridge. -- rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 03:40:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042601560:20:00264:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:40:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042601560:20:00264:48; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:32:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000094; 15 Jan 2003 3:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YeHr-0001gM-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:32:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F3WC311351 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:32:12 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F3WBJ11348 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:32:11 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YeHj-0003bs-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:32:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:30:36 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4f7fdcbrkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb4f7fdcbrkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But the type 5 error prevents you from opening the scan window! >In most of my experiments I've run DPSS on a clean machine, apart >from ShareFS and Patience. You'll get into trouble much faster on a 512MB machine. This is one reason why this snag has not been spotted. Anyway we should work out a fix soon. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 14:30:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042608428:20:29618:187".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:30:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042608428:20:29618:187; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:27:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000016; 15 Jan 2003 5:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Yg4m-0002Y3-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:26:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0F5QJF19571 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:26:19 GMT Received: from mxout3.netvision.net.il (mxout3.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.24]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0F5QIh19567 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:26:18 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.39.97]) by mxout3.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8Q006H8PROJO@mxout3.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:26:12 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:25:41 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > >> I downloaded the new FontFix module from your website. It wreaks >> havoc with fonts on Risc OS Select (RO 4.33). Are you aware of this? > > > No. > >> I have no idea whether it causes problems with other versions of >> the OS, but reverting to the old FontFix cured the problem. > > > hey but it's 32 bit compatible. Maybe something else changed from the first release? > I wonder what the symptoms look like? No fonts visible on screen except for the system font. Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 14:50:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042641913:20:11612:73".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:50:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042641913:20:11612:73; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:45:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ae2011928; 15 Jan 2003 14:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Yoin-0004Es-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:40:49 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FEdxi26985 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:39:59 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FEdxh26979 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:39:59 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Yohy-0003of-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:39:59 +0000 Message-ID: <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:38:40 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Maybe something else changed from the first release? I did wonder which version you reverted back to. It occurred to me that things like the default settings and capabilities may have changed. I wonder what you're expecting FontFix to do - fonts? GDraw? or (unlikely) moving font paints to low memory. Taking out fonts does ring a bell, something like trying to use GDraw support without the CC modules loaded. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 21:30:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042665826:10:22711:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:30:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042665826:10:22711:40; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:23:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1021428; 15 Jan 2003 21:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Yuzo-0002Vq-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:22:48 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FLMCJ26126 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:22:12 GMT Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FLMCL26118 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:22:12 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.32.6]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8R00CFFY0T2V@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:22:06 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:21:34 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module In-reply-to: <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: >> Maybe something else changed from the first release? > > > I did wonder which version you reverted back to. It occurred to me that > things like the default settings and capabilities may have changed. I > wonder what you're expecting FontFix to do - fonts? GDraw? or (unlikely) > moving font paints to low memory. It may have been the latter originally and just got forgotten in my boot sequence, as once upon a time, many many years ago I had a LaserDirect ... > Taking out fonts does ring a bell, something like trying to use GDraw > support without the CC modules loaded. 1) Which CC modules should I be loading. 2) If they should be loaded before FontFix then should it not be wrapped in an Obey file which RMEnsures the appropriate modules first? Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 21:50:14 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042667258:10:04891:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:50:14 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042667258:10:04891:51; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:47:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1116112; 15 Jan 2003 21:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YvNf-0005qx-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:47:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FLlKu31013 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:47:20 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FLlJR31009 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:47:19 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18YvNX-0008v0-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:47:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:45:42 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> In-Reply-To: <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >It may have been the latter originally and just got forgotten in my >boot sequence, as once upon a time, many many years ago I had a >LaserDirect ... Don't need font paints shifting for LD. It was Caligraph that was the problem. >1) Which CC modules should I be loading. You only need to if you want to use GDraw support i.e. aliasing Draw module output. I think I'd recommend following what the OArtWorks applet in OP does. Boot up the complete set of AW modules. >2) If they should be loaded before FontFix then should it not be wrapped > in an Obey file which RMEnsures the appropriate modules first? Might be safer to follow loading FontFix with a *FontFix_On command that sets the flags for what you want it to do. There is a polished version of all this called SpecialFX, it was on the FRU CD's, maybe elsewhere by now. It lets you toggle effects on an application by application basis. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 22:30:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042669602:10:13975:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:30:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042669602:10:13975:50; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:26:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013175; 15 Jan 2003 22:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Yvyq-0005cQ-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:25:52 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMP2a06071 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:25:02 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FMP1C06066 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:25:02 GMT Received: from [62.188.19.101] (helo=62.188.19.101) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Yvxu-0008UF-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:24:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "D.A. Thompson" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:20:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.03e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Having received a digital camera for xmas I tried to use O Pro to print a few photos, 4 to a page. Before committing myself to printing on photo glossy paper I printed a copy at 180 dpi on ordinary paper no problem. However, when I tried at 1440 (using an epson stylus 600) I got the a Sprite extend error attempt to write to reserved flags. I thought it may have something to do with the cropping of the pictures and tried just dropping them into the frames but got the same error. However when I dug out Impression and used tat no problem. Any ideas? Using RO select 4.33, Printers 1.90b4 and O Pro 2.67 regards Doug T -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / Doug Thompson | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ dathompson@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 22:40:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042670292:20:02504:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:40:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042670292:20:02504:52; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:38:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121998; 15 Jan 2003 22:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Yw9q-0007EO-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:37:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMaxZ08151 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:36:59 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FMawj08141 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:36:58 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust39.tnt37.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.168.39] with SMTP for id XAA08608 (8.8.8/1.3); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:34:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <005101c2bce6$e8eea890$0100a8c0@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:38:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wed 15 Jan, David Pilling wrote: "Michael Ben-Gershon" wrote: > >1) Which CC modules should I be loading. > > You only need to if you want to use GDraw support i.e. aliasing Draw > module output. > > I think I'd recommend following what the OArtWorks applet in OP does. > Boot up the complete set of AW modules. > > >2) If they should be loaded before FontFix then should it not be wrapped > > in an Obey file which RMEnsures the appropriate modules first? > > Might be safer to follow loading FontFix with a *FontFix_On command that > sets the flags for what you want it to do. I have used FontFix in the past (very successfully), wrapped in a home-made application with a !Run like this: Set LoadFFix$Dir | replace in the following lines with the actual directory e.g. | CCShared$Dir. | or adfs::$.Harddisc4.!AWViewer.RMStore. RMEnsure DitherExtend 0.49 RMLoad .DitherExt RMEnsure GDraw 2.95 RMLoad .GDraw RMENsure Fontfix 0.03 RMLoad .FontFix FontFix_ON G set alias$ffg "FontFix_ON G |M *echo FontFix=ON" set alias$ffo "FontFix_OFF |M *echo FontFix=OFF" I could use ffg or ffo from the Cli to switch it on /off. I think I put the CC modules also inside this application to make sure, that they were loaded in the correct order. ---"quoting my own help"--- Fontfix-module 0.03: with Anti Aliasing What I discovered: It works very well in many programs (e.g. !Draw and !Vector), even !Edit, !Fireworkz Pro and !FontEd. It doesn't interfere with !Ovation Pro. The Flags are case sensitive. B gives an ugly look in the Filer window, when I select something L isn't needed. G that's what I wanted, is 'marvellous. To use G the GDraw module isn't enough, but when I load all the modules of AWViewer, all is fine Note: DitherExtend and GDraw are needed ! unquote > There is a polished version of all this called SpecialFX, it was on the > FRU CD's, maybe elsewhere by now. It lets you toggle effects on an > application by application basis. !SpecialFX comes also with Select That is with 4.29. I don't have 4.33. Maybe both are being loaded? FontFix+SpecialFX ? Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 22:50:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042670933:20:20894:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:50:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042670933:20:20894:49; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:48:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2020391; 15 Jan 2003 22:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YwKb-0008Ny-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:48:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMmEn09768 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:48:14 GMT Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FMmEk09764 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:48:14 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.32.6]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8S00CPQ2078S@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:48:08 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:47:36 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E25E508.6050100@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: >> It may have been the latter originally and just got forgotten in my >> boot sequence, as once upon a time, many many years ago I had a >> LaserDirect ... > > > Don't need font paints shifting for LD. It was Caligraph that was the > problem. > >> 1) Which CC modules should I be loading. > > > You only need to if you want to use GDraw support i.e. aliasing Draw > module output. > > I think I'd recommend following what the OArtWorks applet in OP does. > Boot up the complete set of AW modules. I have now done this (borrowed the !Install file from OArtWorks) and everything is now OK. >> 2) If they should be loaded before FontFix then should it not be wrapped >> in an Obey file which RMEnsures the appropriate modules first? > > > Might be safer to follow loading FontFix with a *FontFix_On command that > sets the flags for what you want it to do. > > There is a polished version of all this called SpecialFX, it was on the > FRU CD's, maybe elsewhere by now. It lets you toggle effects on an > application by application basis. > > > -- Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 22:50:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042670507:20:08143:174".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:50:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042670507:20:08143:174; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008693; 15 Jan 2003 22:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YwE4-0007Z1-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMfQV08793 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:26 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FMfQV08788 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YwDu-0001x4-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:40:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Having received a digital camera for xmas I tried to use O Pro to print a >few photos, 4 to a page. Before committing myself to printing on photo >glossy paper I printed a copy at 180 dpi on ordinary paper no problem. >However, when I tried at 1440 (using an epson stylus 600) I got the a >Sprite extend error attempt to write to reserved flags. I thought it may >have something to do with the cropping of the pictures and tried just >dropping them into the frames but got the same error. > >However when I dug out Impression and used tat no problem. Any ideas? > >Using RO select 4.33, Printers 1.90b4 and O Pro 2.67 Err is this the one where I've not set a flag for JPEG rendering. All discussed here some months ago, and I put up a patch www.davidpilling.net/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip Of course by now you'd be better of upgrading to OP 2.70. Impression will convert JPEG's to Sprites as you load. The above doesn't really explain why printing at 180 dpi was OK though. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 15 23:00:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042671565:10:10993:71".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:00:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042671565:10:10993:71; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:59:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121953; 15 Jan 2003 22:58 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YwUZ-0006ct-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0FMwYE11351 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:34 GMT Received: from mxout1.netvision.net.il (mxout1.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.20]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0FMwXH11346 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:58:33 GMT Received: from netvision.net.il ([212.143.32.6]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.08 (built Dec 6 2002)) with ESMTPA id <0H8S00A432HF1O@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:58:27 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:57:56 +0200 From: Michael Ben-Gershon Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit Font Fix module In-reply-to: <005101c2bce6$e8eea890$0100a8c0@padua> To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: <3E25E774.7000207@netvision.net.il> Organization: My Office MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en, he User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021203 References: <3E2481B1.70403@netvision.net.il> <3E24F0D5.80009@netvision.net.il> <$PyLTfAwJXJ+Ewen@pilling.demon.co.uk> <3E25D0DE.1070008@netvision.net.il> <005101c2bce6$e8eea890$0100a8c0@padua> Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > !SpecialFX comes also with Select That is with 4.29. I don't have 4.33. > Maybe both are being loaded? FontFix+SpecialFX ? No. SpecialFX is NOT being loaded. However, loading the CC modules first fixed everything. Michael Ben-Gershon mybg@netvision.net.il -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 00:11:01 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042675487:20:27304:39".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:11:01 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042675487:20:27304:39; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:04:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027224; 16 Jan 2003 0:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YxWF-0004oT-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:04:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0G03hc20475 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:03:43 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0G03hl20460 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:03:43 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18YxVW-0000dI-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:03:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:47:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling wrote: > On 09 Jan, James Carey wrote: > > SwiftJPEG would run fine I'd expect since it is written in BASIC. > Doesn't show any problems. Still faster than ChangeFSI, which of course > is way faster than on a typical RPC. Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 13:21:34 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042703621:10:22199:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:21:34 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042703621:10:22199:41; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:53:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109756; 16 Jan 2003 7:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Z4pa-0006Xo-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:52:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0G7qNC27050 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:52:23 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0G7qNw27047 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:52:23 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.134] (helo=wallace) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Z4p2-0005Ay-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:52:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Having received a digital camera for xmas I tried to use O > >Pro to print a few photos, 4 to a page. Before committing > >myself to printing on photo glossy paper I printed a copy at > >180 dpi on ordinary paper no problem. However, when I tried > >at 1440 (using an epson stylus 600) I got the a Sprite extend > >error attempt to write to reserved flags. I thought it may > >have something to do with the cropping of the pictures and > >tried just dropping them into the frames but got the same > >error. > > > >However when I dug out Impression and used tat no problem. > >Any ideas? > > > >Using RO select 4.33, Printers 1.90b4 and O Pro 2.67 > Err is this the one where I've not set a flag for JPEG > rendering. All discussed here some months ago, and I put up a > patch > www.davidpilling.net/ovationpro/upgrade/op267a.zip > Of course by now you'd be better of upgrading to OP 2.70. > Impression will convert JPEG's to Sprites as you load. The > above doesn't really explain why printing at 180 dpi was OK > though. You ought to read the thread 'Impression colour printing' in comp.sys.acorn.apps. You will discover why Impression's colour printing is so dreadful and how to work round it using Artworks. It would be interesting to hear how OPro actually compares, using Martin Wuerthner's test file located at: http://www.mw-software.com/software/impression/allcols.zip Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 13:21:36 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042706047:10:28581:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:21:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042706047:10:28581:46; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:34:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1027092; 16 Jan 2003 8:33 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Z5SW-0004qz-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:33:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0G8X2t31998 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:33:02 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0G8X1k31995 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:33:01 GMT Received: from [62.188.112.25] (helo=62.188.112.25) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Z5SO-00062m-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:33:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Adrian Warrick To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:29:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 15 Jan, Brian Carroll wrote: > In article , David Pilling > wrote: > You ought to read the thread 'Impression colour printing' in > comp.sys.acorn.apps. You will discover why Impression's colour > printing is so dreadful and how to work round it using Artworks. > It would be interesting to hear how OPro actually compares, using > Martin Wuerthner's test file located at: > http://www.mw-software.com/software/impression/allcols.zip Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation Pro. Adrian -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ awarrick@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 13:21:51 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042712369:20:20812:84".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:21:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042712369:20:20812:84; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:19:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125335; 16 Jan 2003 10:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Z75t-0003K7-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:17:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GAHEX22110 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:17:14 GMT Received: from alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk (alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.254.14]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GAHDX22105 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:17:14 GMT Received: from stm2-60.static.port.ac.uk ([148.197.243.60] helo=ARMless) by alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Z75F-001RWb-02 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:17:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Young To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:15:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb5a5df1bsimon.young@port.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.03) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18Z75F-001RWb-02*eobe9TNLnmM* Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 16 Jan, Adrian Warrick wrote: > Much better IMO even than Ovation Pro. .... brave man, perhaps you don't remember the stoning sketch from the Life of Brian! -- Simon A. Young BPharm MRPharmS PhD ILTM | Tel: 023-9284-3610 Lecturer in Pharmaceutics | Fax: 023-9284-3565 University of Portsmouth | simon.young@port.ac.uk ================================================================== Please visit my web-site (pgp key available) located at: http://userwww.port.ac.uk/youngs ================================================================== -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 13:22:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042720581:20:03680:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:22:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042720581:20:03680:42; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:36:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001356; 16 Jan 2003 12:35 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Z8tz-0004e2-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:13:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GCD0m30688 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:13:00 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GCCx530682 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:12:59 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Z8tG-0004tW-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:12:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:53:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb5a94b49Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk>, Adrian Warrick wrote: > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation > Pro. I don't think that this is the best place to express such an opinion; it's certainly not tactful is it? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 13:51:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042724591:20:29563:119".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:51:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042724591:20:29563:119; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:43:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000740; 16 Jan 2003 13:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZAHQ-0003a0-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:42:00 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GDf9g10928 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:09 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GDf8M10924 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:08 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ZAGZ-000BQT-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:07 +0000 Message-ID: <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:39:41 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation Pro. That's interesting, any idea why Publisher is better? I know that in some situations Publisher turns things into PostScript itself and this has advantages. Of course unless you have a PS printer this makes no difference at all. If you have CC's Turbo drivers there is the possibility of Publisher driving them with CMYK data as opposed to sending RGB via RISC OS. ISTR OP can do that too, if set up correctly. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 15:21:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042729923:10:27122:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:21:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042729923:10:27122:58; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:12:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1027314; 16 Jan 2003 15:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZAHt-00028m-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:42:29 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GDgSU11293 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:42:28 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GDgSg11287 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:42:28 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ZAHr-000Bc5-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:42:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:41:12 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? Yes. Version 1.19 -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 16:01:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042732649:20:06534:179".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:01:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042732649:20:06534:179; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:57:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2106455; 16 Jan 2003 15:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZC1q-0004Zz-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:34:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GFXOI12340 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:33:24 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GFXMA12332 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:33:22 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust194.tnt32.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.158.194] with SMTP for id QAA13094 (8.8.8/1.3); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:30:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:34:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Thu 16 Jan, "David Pilling" wrote: > >Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? > > Yes. Version 1.19 Is this also available (as far as it makes sense) for 26 bit OS's? Not exactly the place to mention this, but Select's ChangeFSI have higher numbers: 1.24 in Select's RO 4.29 ... -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 16:21:33 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042733506:20:27834:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:21:33 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042733506:20:27834:40; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:11:46 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id af2027284; 16 Jan 2003 16:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZCUN-0002vZ-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:03:31 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GG3Pq20759 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:03:25 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GG3PK20755 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:03:25 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZCUG-0001yK-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:03:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:01:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Non-member submission from [Brian Jordan ] On 16 Jan, Adrian Warrick wrote: > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation > Pro. I can buy that where? I can get ongoing support where? The 32bit version for the Ionyx will be out when? I think not. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Brian Jordan From somewhere in North Hampshire. England ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 18:11:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042739733:20:16870:155".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:11:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042739733:20:16870:155; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:55:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2016676; 16 Jan 2003 17:54 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZEAA-0008Vw-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:50:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GHoEB20166 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:50:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GHoBR20100 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:50:13 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ZE9a-000J1L-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:50:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:48:40 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Style with non-smart quotes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >It would be *nice* (no more than that) to be able to define a Style which >caused quote marks to be 'non-smart' in a document otherwise set to use >smart' quotes. It's unlikely because quotes are currently 'hard', depend on the codes actually in the document. There is a choices option to control what happens to quotes in imported text. ISTR you can mark an area and the smart quotes applet will sort out the quotes. Or you could create a 'transloader' for Basic files, I have a hunch this could be reduced to a clever obey file. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 20:21:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042748092:20:02775:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:21:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042748092:20:02775:40; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:14:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2110208; 16 Jan 2003 20:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZEMT-0003UY-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:03:29 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GI3Nm31834 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:03:23 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GI3Na31829 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:03:23 GMT Received: from [62.188.133.206] (helo=62.188.133.206) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZEMK-0005bU-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:03:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:59:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb5af5b0dcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >but I can't find the scanner, yet. Not seen on USB devices. > John Ballance at Castle replies... > thats odd.. but if you cannot see it on usbdevices, then you wont get > anywhere.. > please > 1: check usbdriver 0.10 and ochidriver 0.06 Sorry, I'm not computer-literate enough to know what you mean by "check". Both those two modules are present, dated 20 Dec & 19 Dec respectively. I don't know how to discover version numbers. > 2: scanner off at power, then on again > 3: *usbdevices > any luck? No, 'fraid not -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 20:41:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042749412:10:06261:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:41:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042749412:10:06261:53; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:36:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1006042; 16 Jan 2003 20:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZGkV-0004K7-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:36:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GKZqO30417 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:35:52 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GKZpK30407 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:35:52 GMT Received: from [213.116.52.12] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZGjs-0001Sp-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:35:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:50:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb5cf8b3fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 15 Jan, Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > In article <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, > Steven Pampling wrote: > > On 09 Jan, James Carey wrote: > > > SwiftJPEG would run fine I'd expect since it is written in BASIC. > > Doesn't show any problems. Still faster than ChangeFSI, which of course > > is way faster than on a typical RPC. > Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? The assembler stuff is still in there and the system doesn't complain about it not being 32 bit - and believe me, the machine does when it hits 26 bit code... -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 21:11:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042751274:10:00484:126".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:11:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042751274:10:00484:126; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:07:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1116364; 16 Jan 2003 21:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZHEl-0003zk-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:07:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GL7Xo04321 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:07:33 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GL7Xc04318 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:07:33 GMT Received: from [62.188.137.1] (helo=wallace) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZHEY-0002O2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:07:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Carroll To: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:52:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb5cfa99cbric@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua> References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua>, [Snip] > Not exactly the place to mention this, but Select's ChangeFSI > have higher numbers: 1.24 in Select's RO 4.29 ... And 1.25 with Select RO 4.33. But no one has said that these versions higher than v1.19 are also 32-bit compatible. Although I would expect that to be the case, I don't feel like making /any/ such assumptions these days. Brian. -- ______________________________________________________________ Brian Carroll, Ripon, North Yorkshire, UK bric@argonet.co.uk ______________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 21:11:27 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042751015:10:23208:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:11:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042751015:10:23208:54; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:03:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1022802; 16 Jan 2003 21:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZHA6-00024l-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:02:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GL2mu03408 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:02:48 GMT Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GL2mf03403 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:02:48 GMT Received: from du-002-0226.freeuk.com ([212.126.156.226] helo=skiddaw) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZH9y-0004Lo-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:02:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:33:12 GMT From: Steve Fryatt To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Clarification needed Message-ID: References: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F3AF@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> <1338a5b24b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <14a536b34b.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com> <4bb34a2712steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb34a2712steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.45 (06 Nov 2002), ZapEmail 0.26 (03 Nov 2002) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 11 Jan, Steven Pampling wrote in message <4bb34a2712steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>: > On 11 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > > In message <4bb2cb371bsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> > > Steven Pampling wrote: > > > > On 10 Jan, Peter Bell wrote: > > > > > > > I have found one application which misbehaves when the new CLib > > > > is installed - !Newsfind, which implements the Search facility > > > > for Newsbase. > > > > > > What about the later 32 bit version of that? > > > > I wasn't aware that there was a 32-bit version available! Where can it > > be obtained, please? > > Presumably at R-Comp. The copy of Messenger Lite on the Iyonix has a > placeholder for it (just produces a message about needing a 32 bit > version to run searches. There is a small bit of Basic labelled NewsFind > (no !) The NewsFind in question is a C application written by (IIRC) Tony Houghton. It is used by NewsBase, not MsgServe, and lives separately from the other bits and pieces. The BASIC file you mention looks like it might simply launch NewsFind proper. -- Steve Fryatt - Glasgow, Scotland http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 21:31:22 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042752650:20:24868:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:31:22 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042752650:20:24868:55; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:30:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2107698; 16 Jan 2003 21:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZHZo-0000So-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:29:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GLTEK08964 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:29:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GLTDF08961 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:29:14 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZHZZ-0001IY-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:29:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:28:11 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5af5b0dcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5af5b0dcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> 1: check usbdriver 0.10 and ochidriver 0.06 >Sorry, I'm not computer-literate enough to know what you mean by "check". >Both those two modules are present, dated 20 Dec & 19 Dec respectively. I >don't know how to discover version numbers. F12 *modules and/or *help modules and/or *help I guess he's asking if you've applied all the patches to your Iyonix. Given the total lack of results one might also check the connection, maybe stick the plug in a different USB socket on the Iyonix. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 21:51:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042753453:20:18797:203".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:51:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042753453:20:18797:203; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:44:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2107862; 16 Jan 2003 21:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZHnq-000486-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:43:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GLhZo11944 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:43:35 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GLhZQ11941 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:43:35 GMT Received: from [62.188.105.237] (helo=62.188.105.237) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZHnQ-0003KG-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:43:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Adrian Warrick To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:40:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb5e4910aawarrick@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5a5df1bsimon.young@port.ac.uk> References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5a5df1bsimon.young@port.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 16 Jan, Simon Young wrote: > On 16 Jan, Adrian Warrick wrote: > > Much better IMO even than Ovation Pro. > .... brave man, perhaps you don't remember the stoning sketch from the > Life of Brian! Already regretting it. Flame suit off Sherman tank donned. I actually do find it easier - Definable angles and screen density for each colour in Postscript masks. Having said that it was going to be a joke which I decided not to send but got through the barbed-wire fence. Jeremy Nicoll Said > Not the best place to express such an opinion How very true... Sorry. David Pilling Wrote > If you have turbo drivers you can use CMYK data as opposed to RGB Under Publisher Plus you don't need turbo drivers for CMYK, can use HSV as well. Also does Spot / Process and Tint. But I am sure those are readily accomplished under OPro. Brian Jordan commented > I can buy that where? I believe CC will still upgrade to Imp Pub plus from other versions for a consideration. (If you were being serious of course :-} ) Brian also referred to - > A 32bit version for the Iyonix Well what do you expect from someone who paid a deposit for an Omega ! Errm! do you mean you AREN'T buying Aemulor? Apologies to David. I do appreciate all of the work you put into the RiscOS world. I try to support as many RiscOS hardware and software manufacturers as I can... just haven't got round to converting to OPro on CD yet. Adrian -- __ __ __ __ __ ___ _____________________________________________ |__||__)/ __/ \|\ ||_ | / | || \\__/\__/| \||__ | /...Internet access for all Acorn RISC machines ___________________________/ awarrick@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 22:11:21 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042754700:20:26457:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:11:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042754700:20:26457:41; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:05:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2124374; 16 Jan 2003 22:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZI7w-0007A0-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:04:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GM4bW16127 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:04:37 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GM4b416124 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:04:37 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZI7o-0005Y7-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:04:37 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:03:04 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5a5df1bsimon.young@port.ac.uk> <4bb5e4910aawarrick@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5e4910aawarrick@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I actually do find it easier - Definable angles and screen density for each >colour in Postscript masks. ISTR OP does that. But again you're talking PS output, and most people won't use that for colour printing. >> If you have turbo drivers you can use CMYK data as opposed to RGB >Under Publisher Plus you don't need turbo drivers for CMYK You misunderstand. If you're just using the standard RISC OS printer drivers, then you send RGB to them - from *any* application. Turbo drivers let you send CMYK. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 22:21:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042755397:10:06092:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:21:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042755397:10:06092:47; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1122241; 16 Jan 2003 22:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZIJD-0007MV-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GMGGY18351 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:16 GMT Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GMGG718346 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:16 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030116221616.RVJS900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:16:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <4bb5e4910aawarrick@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Thu 16 Jan, Adrian Warrick wrote: > > I actually do find it easier - Definable angles and screen density for each > colour in Postscript masks. > Screen densities and angles are definable in Opro, a quick play indicates that all separations are at the same density. Do you mean separate screen density for each output colour in one document? > David Pilling Wrote > > > If you have turbo drivers you can use CMYK data as opposed to RGB > > Under Publisher Plus you don't need turbo drivers for CMYK, can use HSV as > well. Also does Spot / Process and Tint. But I am sure those are readily > accomplished under OPro. I think the difference is that with turbo drivers Publisher can send CMYK data to the printer but the RISC OS drivers all send RGB. Opro can define colours in any of the models you quote as well. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 22:41:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042756669:20:26568:76".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:41:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042756669:20:26568:76; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:37:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2103702; 16 Jan 2003 22:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZIcb-0001Oj-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:36:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GMa1F21911 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:36:01 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GMa0O21903 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:36:00 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZIcC-0002N6-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:36:00 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:34:37 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error References: <4bb5e4910aawarrick@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I think the difference is that with turbo drivers Publisher can send CMYK >data to the printer but the RISC OS drivers all send RGB. OP can send CMYK data to the printer with Turbos. But you seem to have me with the screen densities. Is that really useful? I'll bet the person who set off this discussion doesn't have a PS printer... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 23:31:26 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042759868:20:28583:41".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:31:26 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042759868:20:28583:41; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:31:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125617; 16 Jan 2003 23:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZJSg-0007i4-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:30:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GNTjM30238 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:29:45 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GNTj830231 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:29:45 GMT Received: from [62.188.122.204] (helo=62.188.122.204) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZJS7-0006Am-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:29:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:25:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner Message-ID: <4bb5ee2a17charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5af5b0dcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >> 1: check usbdriver 0.10 and ochidriver 0.06 > >Sorry, I'm not computer-literate enough to know what you mean by "check". > >Both those two modules are present, dated 20 Dec & 19 Dec respectively. I > >don't know how to discover version numbers. > F12 > *modules > and/or > *help modules > and/or > *help Thanks. usbdriver is only 0.09, so I need to update. However much I try, no updates are reported by IyoUpWtch and the support group site "cannot be found". Any idea how I proceed? > I guess he's asking if you've applied all the patches to your Iyonix. > Given the total lack of results one might also check the connection, > maybe stick the plug in a different USB socket on the Iyonix. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 23:51:25 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042760592:20:16880:145".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:51:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042760592:20:16880:145; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:43:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120605; 16 Jan 2003 23:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZJf3-0002Ol-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:43:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GNgo031901 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:42:50 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GNgoA31898 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:42:50 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZJer-0005vD-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:42:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:41:44 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Epson Perfection Scanner References: <4bb1b07cbccharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb2cf40c1rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb368b274rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3c39643rkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb3f2819frkpartridge@argonet.co.uk> <4bb4c0df11charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5af5b0dcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5ee2a17charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5ee2a17charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Thanks. usbdriver is only 0.09, so I need to update. However much I try, >no updates are reported by IyoUpWtch and the support group site "cannot be >found". I think you have to go to www.smartgroups.com then go to the Iyonix group. I just checked and it is available/working - 600 postings already in January. There is (or was) some sort of security feature that would only let you download upgrades via the Smart groups links. Perhaps your copy of IyoUp etc. is also not up to date, I can't see how you'd avoid the USB upgrade whilst upgrading everything else. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 16 23:51:25 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042760790:20:22486:127".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:51:25 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042760790:20:22486:127; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2127285; 16 Jan 2003 23:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZJiI-0002gr-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0GNkJj32238 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:19 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0GNkIA32233 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:18 GMT Received: from [213.116.62.202] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZJiC-0006eK-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:46:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua> References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <002e01c2bd74$e64ff150$e49a74d5@padua> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 16 Jan, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: > On Thu 16 Jan, "David Pilling" wrote: > > >Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? > > > > Yes. Version 1.19 > Is this also available (as far as it makes sense) for 26 bit OS's? > Not exactly the place to mention this, but Select's ChangeFSI have higher > numbers: > 1.24 in Select's RO 4.29 ... So do many of the modules. e.g. SysLog is @ 0.44 or thereabouts is it not? The version on the Iyonix is 0.19, but it's 32 bit and the Select version isn't AFAIK. Fun innit? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 00:21:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042762561:10:22645:277".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:21:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042762561:10:22645:277; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:16:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1112655; 17 Jan 2003 0:15 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZKAG-0006cy-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:15:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H0F4j03431 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:15:04 GMT Received: from smtp2.clear.net.nz (smtp2.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0H0F3W03422 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:15:03 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-165.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.165]) by smtp2.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8U00F670OH77@smtp2.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:14:59 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:14:10 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: [softwarelist] 2.70 not installing on RPC Arm 610 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have tried to run Freshen to upgrade from 2.67 to 2.70. I am still running Select 4.29 and when attempting to run freshen I first of all got a message saying "System Modules CLib not found". I threw a copy of that in and that message disappeared. Then I got a new message "Shared C Library may not be ram loaded". Now I am foxed! Any solutions? Cheers! -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 01:21:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042766012:10:19820:75".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:21:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042766012:10:19820:75; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:13:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1019224; 17 Jan 2003 1:13 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZL49-0003wS-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:13:01 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H1CM609024 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:12:22 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0H1CLf09021 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:12:21 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.72]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030117011220.YAIB5233.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:12:20 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16A12BEBB; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:49:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54); 17 Jan 2003 00:49:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:49:56 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Cc: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h0H1CLf09022 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 16 Jan, in message <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> Steven Pampling wrote: >On 16 Jan, Tonnie Demarteau wrote: >> On Thu 16 Jan, "David Pilling" wrote: > >> > >Has ChangeFSI been updated to generate & use 32-bit assembler? >> > >> > Yes. Version 1.19 > >> Is this also available (as far as it makes sense) for 26 bit OS's? > >> Not exactly the place to mention this, but Select's ChangeFSI have higher >> numbers: >> 1.24 in Select's RO 4.29 ... > >So do many of the modules. > >e.g. SysLog is @ 0.44 or thereabouts is it not? > >The version on the Iyonix is 0.19, but it's 32 bit and the Select version >isn't AFAIK. >Fun innit? Even funnier is that the SysLog of the 0.17/0.18/0.19 variety is the old DoggySoft/Tom Hughes (or something) one which has been updated to be 32-bit compatible. The Select one is from a totally different stable - RISC OS Ltd. IIRC RISC OS Ltd. said that all future work they will be doing will be 32-bit compatible (i.e. they won't be writing LDM sp!, {,pc}^ etc.) so it should only need a minor change to get their SysLog to work on an Iyonix. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 01:51:28 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042768267:10:11689:235".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:51:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042768267:10:11689:235; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:51:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012816; 17 Jan 2003 1:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZLeZ-0008Kp-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:50:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H1oLL12071 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:50:21 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0H1oLa12068 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:50:21 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ZLeG-0003C9-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:50:21 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:48:41 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 2.70 not installing on RPC Arm 610 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I am still running Select 4.29 and when attempting to run freshen I first of >all got a message saying "System Modules CLib not found". I threw a copy of >that in and that message disappeared. Then I got a new message "Shared C >Library may not be ram loaded". >Now I am foxed! >Any solutions? Read www.davidpilling.net/news.html I'd guess the bit about getting a new system, and getting a patch from Paul Vigay's site to allow the new Clib to load with Select. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 13:57:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042785756:20:24822:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:57:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042785756:20:24822:51; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:42:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025001; 17 Jan 2003 6:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZQCq-0008T6-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:42:20 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0H6fhx32022 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:41:43 GMT Received: from smtp2.clear.net.nz (smtp2.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0H6ffb32019 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:41:42 GMT Received: from ijm.clear.net.nz (203-167-156-45.dialup.clear.net.nz [203.167.156.45]) by smtp2.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with SMTP id <0H8U00C5GILCNL@smtp2.clear.net.nz> for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:41:38 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:42:41 +0100 (BST) From: Ian J Melville Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 2.70 not installing on RPC Arm 610 In-reply-to: To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-id: X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Fri 17 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > > >I am still running Select 4.29 and when attempting to run freshen I first of > >all got a message saying "System Modules CLib not found". [snip] > > Read www.davidpilling.net/news.html > The new system did the trick! Thank you. I am now running RISC OS 4.33 as well! > I'd guess the bit about getting a new system, and getting a patch from > Paul Vigay's site to allow the new Clib to load with Select. > > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK > fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 > -- Ian J. Melville RD 1 Ph/Fax +64-0-9-433-2225 Tangiteroria 0351 Cell +64-0-21-181-9991 Aotearoa/New Zealand email ijm@clear.net.nz _____________________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 13:57:42 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042809850:10:29284:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:57:42 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042809850:10:29284:58; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:24:10 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1113916; 17 Jan 2003 13:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZVqd-00076d-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:43:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HCgsh04338 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:42:54 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0HCgrw04327 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:42:53 GMT Received: from userkx68.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.108.145] helo=golden.argonet.co.uk) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZVpf-0003QG-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:42:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Favre To: OvationPro Mail List Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:33:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Style with non-smart quotes? Message-ID: <4bb6364c61rayfavre@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Just a thought for us poor purveyors of OP documents containing snippets of Basic listings.... It would be *nice* (no more than that) to be able to define a Style which caused quote marks to be 'non-smart' in a document otherwise set to use 'smart' quotes. In that way we could retain the advantages of smart quotes normally but avoid the pitfalls that can come from exporting a Basic snippet with smart quotes in it. Would this be possible? -- Regards from Ray Favre. Home of books "Starting Basic" and "Dr Wimp's Surgery" and support of the Dr Wimp freeware package. Web site at: -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 16:46:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042821848:10:08802:264".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:46:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042821848:10:08802:264; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:44:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1009866; 17 Jan 2003 16:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZZWI-0000t5-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HGc3Y04897 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:38:03 GMT Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0HGc2g04887 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:38:02 GMT Received: from [213.116.58.96] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18ZZVH-0001Sk-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:37:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:09:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: <4bb61e2007steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.05-a1 (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 17 Jan, Philip Ludlam wrote: > On 16 Jan, in message <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> > Steven Pampling wrote: [Snip] > The Select one is from a totally different stable - RISC OS Ltd. > IIRC RISC OS Ltd. said that all future work they will be doing will be > 32-bit compatible (i.e. they won't be writing LDM sp!, {,pc}^ etc.) > so it should only need a minor change to get their SysLog to work on an > Iyonix. But will they be suitably doctoring it like the current one so that it doesn't work without other items only contained in Select? -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 17 17:27:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042824171:10:10526:107".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:27:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042824171:10:10526:107; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:22:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ar1010624; 17 Jan 2003 17:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZZtS-0005Vg-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:02:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0HH1sa11056 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:01:54 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0HH1sG11053 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:01:54 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.184.232]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030117170149.OHUX4699.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:01:49 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE8A2BEBB for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 17 Jan 2003 17:01:44 +0000 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:01:43 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Iyonix doubts Message-ID: References: <58c73eb24b.james@maat.clara.co.uk> <4bb2542604steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb56c65d1Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4bb61e2007steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb61e2007steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by spellings.dsvr.co.uk id h0HH1sG11054 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 17 Jan, in message <4bb61e2007steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> Steven Pampling wrote: >On 17 Jan, Philip Ludlam wrote: >> On 16 Jan, in message <4bb5e3922esteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> >> Steven Pampling wrote: > >[Snip] > >> The Select one is from a totally different stable - RISC OS Ltd. > >> IIRC RISC OS Ltd. said that all future work they will be doing will be >> 32-bit compatible (i.e. they won't be writing LDM sp!, {,pc}^ etc.) >> so it should only need a minor change to get their SysLog to work on an >> Iyonix. > >But will they be suitably doctoring it like the current one so that it >doesn't work without other items only contained in Select? Well that is how they get their money :-) Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 21 16:49:58 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042916431:10:13847:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:49:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042916431:10:13847:57; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:00:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013745; 18 Jan 2003 19:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZyCZ-0006QO-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:00:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IItmI17372 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:48 GMT Received: from lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net [62.189.58.30]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0IItmA17369 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:48 GMT Received: from RTV (userdy59.uk.uudial.com [62.188.8.251]) by lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id h0IItgv12666 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:42 GMT Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:28:57 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4BB6DAB506%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <4bb56463acdathompson@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5683462bric@argonet.co.uk> <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <4bb5a94b49Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bb5a94b49Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.61 POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.44, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bb5a94b49Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > Adrian Warrick wrote: > > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation > > Pro. > I don't think that this is the best place to express such an opinion; > it's certainly not tactful is it? We all have our preferences, so let's not be too harsh on Adrian (we /are/ Acorn/RISC OS users after all) & I presume since he is posting here that he has a copy of OPro. I use whatever gets the job done easiest. 95% of DTP is done on OPro, but I still use ImpPub(!+) for the rest. Mainly forms because I can't be bothered to do them in TableMate or whatever. I even have Easiwriter for non-DTP stuff (my novella, for example), because it's too much bother (for me!) in OPro. I even use a PC at times. :o) -- If speed scares you, try Micro$oft Windows. __ __ _ _ _____ | \/ (_) | __ |_ _|____ __ _____ ___ | |\/| | | |/ / | |/ _ \ V V (_- for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:50:04 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042928996:10:22286:52; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:29:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1128745; 18 Jan 2003 22:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18a1TK-0004nx-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:29:50 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IMQIO16063 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:26:18 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0IMQH816050 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:26:17 GMT Received: from lowrys.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.208] helo=Ralph) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18a1Ps-0005Wr-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:26:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:30:26 GMT From: Ian Lowry To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> In-Reply-To: <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> X-Organization: Matchstick User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> Mik Towse wrote: > In article <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > > > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation > > > Pro. > > That's interesting, any idea why Publisher is better? > Tables? ;-) > Use Tablemate. It really is very good. Hwyl Ian -- Hyperbole is greatly exaggerated -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 21 16:50:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042970939:10:16805:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:50:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042970939:10:16805:53; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:08:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121702; 19 Jan 2003 10:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18aCNO-0000aG-00; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:08:26 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0JA3fe08955 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0JA3eL08949 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:40 GMT Received: from lowrys.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.208] helo=Ralph) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18aCIm-000ILT-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:03:57 GMT From: Ian Lowry To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <724f30b74b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> X-Organization: Matchstick User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02S) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> Philip Ludlam wrote: [snip] > > Use Tablemate. It really is very good. > > Sorry for butting in here, but: > > Does the latest version do spell checking? > > I've only got TableMate 3.30a (10 Sep 1997), which doesn't and this was > the one limitation I had with it. > > Yours, > > Phil L. I'm using 5.03b (18 Oct 2001).While TM does not have internal spellchecking it is possible to export the file as 'hardspace' and drop that on David Pilling's !Spell. You then make corrections manually. Usually I just rely on the fact that I can spell accurately if I take care. I don't know whether earlier version of TM had hardspace (for email) output. Hwyl Ian -- The one piece of data you're absolutely sure is correct, isn't. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 21 16:50:11 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042971016:10:18221:110".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:50:11 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042971016:10:18221:110; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:10:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018318; 19 Jan 2003 10:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18aCOz-0008Qo-00; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:10:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0JA5wx09125 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:05:58 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0JA5wW09122 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:05:58 GMT Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18aCKw-0003lb-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:05:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:35:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4bb6fc4c62john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 18 Jan, Philip Ludlam wrote: > On 18 Jan, in message <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> Ian Lowry > wrote: > >In message <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> Mik Towse > > wrote: > > > >> In article <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > >> > > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than > >> > > Ovation Pro. > >> > That's interesting, any idea why Publisher is better? > >> Tables? ;-) > >> > > Use Tablemate. It really is very good. > Sorry for butting in here, but: > Does the latest version do spell checking? > I've only got TableMate 3.30a (10 Sep 1997), which doesn't and this was > the one limitation I had with it. 1. You need to upgrade - you're missing a few improvements. 2. No but suggest it to Dalriada for their next upgrade. -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 Acorn Publisher magazine & http://www.acornpublisher.com Fleur Designs (boardgames) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 21 16:51:05 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1042916459:20:25607:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:51:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042916459:20:25607:45; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:00:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025405; 18 Jan 2003 19:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZyCZ-0006QP-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:00:19 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0IItmj17366 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:48 GMT Received: from lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net [62.189.58.30]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0IItlu17361 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:47 GMT Received: from RTV (userdy59.uk.uudial.com [62.188.8.251]) by lhuumrelay4.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id h0IItcv12663 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:55:41 GMT Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:20:52 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.61 POPstar/2.03 X-Editor: Zap 1.44, using ZapEmail 0.26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: > > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation > > Pro. > That's interesting, any idea why Publisher is better? Tables? ;-) -- Contraceptives should be used on every conceivable occasion. Spike Milligan __ __ _ _ _____ | \/ (_) | __ |_ _|____ __ _____ ___ | |\/| | | |/ / | |/ _ \ V V (_- for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:51:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1042934188:20:05929:98; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:56:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005706; 18 Jan 2003 23:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18a2od-0002J3-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:55:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0INqMf26014 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:52:22 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0INqLn26010 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:52:21 GMT Received: from miranda.philipnet.com ([80.1.176.80]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030118235220.CQCH5233.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@miranda.philipnet.com> for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:52:20 +0000 Received: from philipnet.com (gromit.philipnet.com [192.168.1.33]) by miranda.philipnet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5165F2BEC6 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:27:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from philip by philipnet.com with local (RemoteNB 1.54) for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; 18 Jan 2003 23:27:40 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 23:27:39 GMT From: Philip Ludlam To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: Ovation Pro - Sprite extend error Message-ID: <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (RemoteNB/1.54) (RISC-OS/4.33) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 18 Jan, in message <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> Ian Lowry wrote: >In message <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> > Mik Towse wrote: > >> In article <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> David Pilling wrote: >> > > Switch to Impression Publisher plus. Much better IMO even than Ovation >> > > Pro. >> > That's interesting, any idea why Publisher is better? >> Tables? ;-) >> > Use Tablemate. It really is very good. Sorry for butting in here, but: Does the latest version do spell checking? I've only got TableMate 3.30a (10 Sep 1997), which doesn't and this was the one limitation I had with it. Yours, Phil L. -- http://www.philipnet.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 24 03:27:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043378732:20:27663:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:27:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043378732:20:27663:48; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:25:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027590; 24 Jan 2003 3:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18buSv-0000eo-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:25:13 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O3OBw12712 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:24:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0O3OAY12708 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:24:10 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18buRt-0008Ct-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:24:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:22:56 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, Recently Justin Fletcher pointed out to me a bug in FontFix, he also told me how to fix it. As a result there is a new FontFix module on my web site. http://davidpilling.net/fix.zip It is important to upgrade because faults in FontFix can make other programs appear to misbehave, causing problems for their authors. The same bug is in SpecialFX which came on the FRU CD. The fixed version will be on the next issue. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 24 03:37:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043379420:20:10440:158".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:37:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043379420:20:10440:158; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:37:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2010828; 24 Jan 2003 3:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18budd-0004Iw-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:36:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O3aBx13433 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:36:11 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0O3aBE13430 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:36:11 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18budW-000L7r-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:36:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 03:34:48 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Web site updates References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, Since the Iyonix experience started about three months ago, I have done many web site updates. I'd like to point out some of them. SyncDiscs is up to version 1.09 and now has a facility to compare directory trees. Full Windows versions of Trace and CrossStar on 30 days trial are available from; http://davidpilling.net/trace.html http://davidpilling.net/crossstar.html A list of all the new versions of RISC OS software is contained on; http://davidpilling.net/news.html Looking at that page reminds me, I have seen Impact + Ovation Pro do a mail merge via Impulse on the Iyonix recently. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 24 14:09:30 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043398524:20:27793:78".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:09:30 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043398524:20:27793:78; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:55:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2026038; 24 Jan 2003 8:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18bzaH-0000sk-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:53:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0O8qW705496 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:52:32 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0O8qUH05485 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:52:30 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([81.96.74.198]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030124085230.KLSL4699.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:52:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:52:21 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 Message-ID: <43efbcb94b.john@xl-cambridge.com> References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.00cS) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > It is important to upgrade because faults in FontFix can make other > programs appear to misbehave, causing problems for their authors. How do we tell whether we're running FontFix? Is it part of OvPro or other apps? A "*help fontfix" gave nothing on my system, so can I assume that it's not installed? John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 24 14:39:23 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043418605:10:17303:175".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:39:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043418605:10:17303:175; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:30:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1123337; 24 Jan 2003 14:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18c4jk-0001Gv-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:23:16 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0OEMRR25849 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:22:27 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0OEMQx25843 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:22:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18c4iw-0004Fv-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:22:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:20:56 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> <43efbcb94b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: <43efbcb94b.john@xl-cambridge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >How do we tell whether we're running FontFix? Is it part of OvPro or other >apps? It is *not* part of any other software. It's a standalone thing that you use at your discretion. It can be used to enable background blending on all font painting, and to use the Computer Concepts (anti aliasing) GDraw module to replace the normal Draw module. Some people desire this because it makes on screen results look a lot better. However by the nature of the thing it can cause problems. SpecialFX is an enhanced version which can be enabled on a task by task basis (from which you can deduce FontFix does more harm than good with some programs). FontFix set off as a hack to allow Caligraph printers to work with Ovation Pro, and it will still do that. The current bug fixes are only concerned with GDraw support. One piece of good news is that with the bug fix, these bits of code may now work with more programs. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 00:58:16 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043455718:20:25790:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:58:16 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043455718:20:25790:51; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:48:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2125908; 25 Jan 2003 0:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cEUQ-00019R-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:48:06 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0P0jgI20856 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:45:42 GMT Received: from lutetium.btinternet.com (lutetium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.116]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0P0jgC20853 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:45:42 GMT Received: from host62-7-67-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.7.67.1] helo=btopenworld.com) by lutetium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18cES1-0006c2-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:45:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Owl-Art Un-Ltd." To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:31:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: Autosave problem(?) Message-ID: <4bba12e621owlart@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.03e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist With OvationPro's Autosave feature, I have come across a problem (or maybe a feature, not sure). If at any time when it prompts me if I wish to autosave, I say 'No', it will stop autosaving completely. I'd quite like it to carry on asking me every 10 mins, and just give me the choice not to save this time. Any ideas on this one? Cheers, Andrew -- http://www.owlart.co.uk/ +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Owl-Art Un-Ltd. 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To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:35:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: Non-rectangular frame bug? Message-ID: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.03e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist If you create a non rectangular frame (eg. elliptical) in OvationPro (any version) and the copy the frame elsewhere onto the page and then drag the frame so that it sits exactly over the top of the original, this causes a fatal crash. Has anybody else experienced this? Cheers, Andrew -- http://www.owlart.co.uk/ +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Owl-Art Un-Ltd. 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References: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >If you create a non rectangular frame (eg. elliptical) in OvationPro (any >version) and the copy the frame elsewhere onto the page and then drag the >frame so that it sits exactly over the top of the original, this causes a >fatal crash. Has anybody else experienced this? Yes, known problem. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. 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References: <4bba12e621owlart@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bba12e621owlart@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >With OvationPro's Autosave feature, I have come across a problem (or >maybe a feature, not sure). If at any time when it prompts me if I wish >to autosave, I say 'No', it will stop autosaving completely. I'd quite >like it to carry on asking me every 10 mins, and just give me the choice >not to save this time. Any ideas on this one? Interesting. It does sound like a bug - unless you turn off auto save then it should continue to work. But on the other hand it's almost a feature. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 02:28:20 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043461202:10:03547:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:28:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043461202:10:03547:43; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:20:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1103923; 25 Jan 2003 2:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cFun-0004WA-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:19:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0P2HCe28336 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:17:12 GMT Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk (useless.aaisp.net.uk [217.169.20.27]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0P2HBH28333 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:17:11 GMT Received: from [217.169.11.106] (helo=ghc) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cFsa-0002jZ-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:17:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:16:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Non-rectangular frame bug? Message-ID: <4bba1c7f08gav@crawford-print.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> References: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk>, Owl-Art Un-Ltd. wrote: > If you create a non rectangular frame (eg. elliptical) in OvationPro > (any version) and the copy the frame elsewhere onto the page and then > drag the frame so that it sits exactly over the top of the original, > this causes a fatal crash. Has anybody else experienced this? Yes, I get a Data Abort error (using 2.67) I only get the error when the frame's shape uses a bezier curve. It doesn't give an error if an irregular shape is constructed using all straight line segments. There is no problem when the Inset curve contains bezier curves, but a Data Abort is produced if the Standoff curve has them. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 15:34:39 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043508312:20:09769:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:34:39 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043508312:20:09769:44; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:25:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120928; 25 Jan 2003 15:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cSAt-00015w-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:24:51 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PFMdB10419 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:22:39 GMT Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0PFMdT10411 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:22:39 GMT Received: from pudy ([81.98.190.105]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030125152238.JXEZ14589.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@pudy> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:22:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:24:52 GMT From: Andrew Pullan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn Message-ID: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> X-Organization: On a good day User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.00gS) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi All Can nybody tell me which version of SparkFS (if any) works on Virtual Acorn? I've got 1.31 and that doesn't. The SparkFS module loads, but none of the modules CLI commands are available. -- Andrew Pullan Slam a revolving door today! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 16:24:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043511723:20:29521:112".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:24:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043511723:20:29521:112; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:22:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101867; 25 Jan 2003 16:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cT3x-0006CC-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:21:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PGHVU19240 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:17:31 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0PGHVK19237 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:17:31 GMT Received: from [212.238.35.147] (helo=demon) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18cSzq-000CsL-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:17:30 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:20:00 GMT From: Dick Wolters To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn Message-ID: <003f6fba4b.woltersd@woltersd.demon.nl> References: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> Andrew Pullan wrote: > Hi All > > Can nybody tell me which version of SparkFS (if any) works on Virtual Acorn? > > I've got 1.31 and that doesn't. The SparkFS module loads, but none of the > modules CLI commands are available. > Version 1.38 works OK. Dick -- Dick Wolters -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 16:34:43 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043512370:20:09930:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:34:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043512370:20:09930:58; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:32:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2009958; 25 Jan 2003 16:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cTER-0003YY-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:32:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PGSrE21127 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:28:53 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0PGSqK21123 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:28:52 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18cTAq-0005qc-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:28:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:27:13 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn References: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I've got 1.31 and that doesn't. The SparkFS module loads, but none of the Lets cut to the chase, why are you using a version that must be getting on for 10 years old... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Jan 25 17:04:52 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043514178:20:09392:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:04:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043514178:20:09392:45; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:02:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2009372; 25 Jan 2003 17:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cThe-0001k8-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:02:46 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PGxnH26365 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:59:49 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0PGxn126356 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:59:49 GMT Received: from pudy ([81.98.190.105]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030125165948.FSOI22729.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@pudy> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:59:48 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:02:00 GMT From: Andrew Pullan To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn Message-ID: <80996dba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> References: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: On a good day User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.00gS) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 25 Jan David Pilling wrote: > >I've got 1.31 and that doesn't. The SparkFS module loads, but none of the > > Lets cut to the chase, why are you using a version that must be getting > on for 10 years old... Several reasons really (none that good!)... Because it works (even on Select) or has uptil now. There are no free upgrades from this version. Therefore I need to write letters, stamps envelopes and other complicated things. I keep forgetting to ask somebody (i.e. you) how much the upgrade from 1.31 is. Every time I remember about the upgrade, I'm not in a position to receive mail. (i.e. I'm not at home for the next few days, weeks or months) > Oh and I dont have the original media anymore, so the upgrade cost might be 25 quid. (I think I have the label somewhere, but I've no idea where the disk is) PS 08-Nov-1997 is not quite ten years :-) -- Andrew Pullan Operating System not Found? = Another windows user! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:40:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043517009:20:26709:191".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:40:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043517009:20:26709:191; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:50:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2113097; 25 Jan 2003 17:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cUQz-0006SH-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:49:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0PHjfq13118 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:45:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0PHjeS13113 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:45:40 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18cUNA-0003Rb-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:45:40 +0000 Message-ID: <$V1rl2H6zsM+EwHE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:44:26 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn References: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> <80996dba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <80996dba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >There are no free upgrades from this version. There is a free upgrade, your problem is that there isn't one on the web site. >PS 08-Nov-1997 is not quite ten years :-) Just feels like it. SparkFS came out in around June 1992. Probably at around version 1.00. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From a.j.pullan@zetnet.co.uk Tue Jan 28 16:40:13 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043522370:20:26835:14".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:40:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043522370:20:26835:14; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:19:30 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.41]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101168; 25 Jan 2003 19:19 GMT Received: from pudy ([81.98.190.105]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030125191921.IATQ22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@pudy> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:19:21 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:21:34 GMT From: Andrew Pullan To: opro@pilling.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Which SparkFS for Virtual Acorn Message-ID: <5a607aba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> References: <92b464ba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> <80996dba4b.a.j.pullan@pudy.websterxl.co.uk> <$V1rl2H6zsM+EwHE@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <$V1rl2H6zsM+EwHE@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: On a good day User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.00gS) (RISC-OS/4.33) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi David In message <$V1rl2H6zsM+EwHE@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > >There are no free upgrades from this version. > > There is a free upgrade, your problem is that there isn't one on the web > site. Good news! Where do I get that then? > >PS 08-Nov-1997 is not quite ten years :-) > > Just feels like it. :-) -- Andrew Pullan Insert TAG line here From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:40:29 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043576813:20:01100:83".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:40:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043576813:20:01100:83; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:26:53 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2117858; 26 Jan 2003 10:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cjzo-0006ZK-00; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:26:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QAOvR25722 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:57 GMT Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0QAOvk25719 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:57 GMT Received: from host62-7-10-157.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.7.10.157] helo=btopenworld.com) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18cjyB-0005gY-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Owl-Art Un-Ltd." To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:23:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: Non-rectangular frame bug? Message-ID: <4bbacce854owlart@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.03e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >If you create a non rectangular frame (eg. elliptical) in OvationPro > >(any version) and the copy the frame elsewhere onto the page and then > >drag the frame so that it sits exactly over the top of the original, > >this causes a fatal crash. Has anybody else experienced this? > Yes, known problem. Thanks for confirming this, I shall stop worrying and await the fix :-) Andrew -- http://www.owlart.co.uk/ +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Owl-Art Un-Ltd. 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U.K. | +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:40:54 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043691921:20:20602:103".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:40:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043691921:20:20602:103; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:25:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2121450; 27 Jan 2003 18:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dDhW-0001ek-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:09:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RI8IO18629 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:08:18 GMT Received: from cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0RI8Hq18621 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:08:17 GMT Received: from modem-61.promethium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.50.61] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailm3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18dDg8-0005DV-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:08:16 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:15:31 +0000 (GMT) From: "John P. Kerslake" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <43efbcb94b.john@xl-cambridge.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: JPK, Bangor.Pager 07626-235878 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Fri 24 Jan, John Pettigrew wrote: > > In a previous message, David Pilling wrote: > > > It is important to upgrade because faults in FontFix can make other > > programs appear to misbehave, causing problems for their authors. > > How do we tell whether we're running FontFix? Is it part of OvPro or other > apps? > > A "*help fontfix" gave nothing on my system, so can I assume that it's not > installed? > I had 0.03 when. | ran 0.06 all fonts on screen changed form plain black to black with red speckles. ? What should i do? -- J.P. Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. Dyslexia Rules KO. Pager 07626 - 235878, e-mail Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk, 21 Glantraeth, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1HQ. "phone" 01248 - 353264 RiscStation 64 meg 50 ns RAM. 9G HD, Ant INS. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk Tue Jan 28 16:41:09 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043532955:10:27837:12".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:41:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043532955:10:27837:12; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:15:55 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.85]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1027975; 25 Jan 2003 22:15 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18cYad-0001lb-0Z for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:15:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: David Pilling Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Web site updates Message-ID: <4bba87e54fJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bb59c1f56awarrick@argonet.co.uk> <1jZJoxBdYrJ+Ew8v@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4BB6D9F7B2%mik.towse@xemik.com> <1556e0b64b.Ian@ian.lowrys.demon.co.uk> <290ef6b64b.philip@philipnet.com> <4bb9d73342Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Return-Receipt-To: Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain On 24 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > >I use !Crossstar 2.10 on my RO 3.70 RPC. one thing I've always > >wondered is if there is some way to get the list of solution > >words/grids saved to a file? > Err don't you just use the 'save clues' feature? Oooh, embarassment, I've asked for something it already does... tries it. Actually, that's not what I meant. Suppose I clear the grid and type in space, i, c, space. then highlight those 4 squares and click on Solve. Up comes a long list of words in the Solutions window. I'd like to be able to save that list to a textfile. I've assumed that none of the existing menu-able options do this, simply because clicking menu over the grid or solutions windows clears the display. It doesn't seem to be possible to drag it anywhere either. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:41:15 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043576823:10:00737:195".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:41:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043576823:10:00737:195; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:27:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1129512; 26 Jan 2003 10:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cjzp-0004hz-00; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:26:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QAOx825729 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:59 GMT Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0QAOx625726 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:59 GMT Received: from host62-7-10-157.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.7.10.157] helo=btopenworld.com) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #16) id 18cjyE-0005gY-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Owl-Art Un-Ltd." To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:24:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: Autosave problem(?) Message-ID: <4bbacd0053owlart@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4bba12e621owlart@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.03e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >With OvationPro's Autosave feature, I have come across a problem (or > >maybe a feature, not sure). If at any time when it prompts me if I > >wish to autosave, I say 'No', it will stop autosaving completely. I'd > >quite like it to carry on asking me every 10 mins, and just give me > >the choice not to save this time. Any ideas on this one? > Interesting. It does sound like a bug - unless you turn off auto save > then it should continue to work. But on the other hand it's almost a > feature. It could be a configurable feature, but a friend of mine just lost 3hrs work because she thought it was auto-saving and it wasn't, then the computer crashed :-( Andrew -- http://www.owlart.co.uk/ +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Owl-Art Un-Ltd. Design and Print Work | email: Sales@owlart.co.uk | | Coming to you on an Acorn RiscPC SA110 | Snail: 58 Newland Road, | | | Worthing, | | Business Cards, Invites, Newsletters, | West Sussex. | | Booklets, Programmes, Original Artwork | BN11 1JX. U.K. | +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:41:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043578477:10:02608:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:41:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043578477:10:02608:57; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:54:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1124365; 26 Jan 2003 10:53 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ckQ3-0007mm-00; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:53:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0QAraR29335 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:53:36 GMT Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com (smtp01.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.131]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0QArYj29326 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:53:35 GMT Received: from db03.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.173] helo=localhost) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 18ckPr-0004HJ-00 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:53:31 +0900 Received: from 54-1-76-118.tky.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.76.118] helo=plattir.gol.com) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with smtp (Magnetic Fields) id 18ckPq-0004HF-00 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:53:30 +0900 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:55:21 +0000 (GMT) From: "Ian R. Platt" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: Autosave problem(?) To: OvationPro / Dave Pilling In-Reply-To: <4bbacd0053owlart@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sun 26 Jan, Owl-Art Un-Ltd. wrote: > > In article , > David Pilling wrote: > > >With OvationPro's Autosave feature, I have come across a problem (or > > >maybe a feature, not sure). If at any time when it prompts me if I > > >wish to autosave, I say 'No', it will stop autosaving completely. I'd > > >quite like it to carry on asking me every 10 mins, and just give me > > >the choice not to save this time. Any ideas on this one? > > > Interesting. It does sound like a bug - unless you turn off auto save > > then it should continue to work. But on the other hand it's almost a > > feature. > > It could be a configurable feature, but a friend of mine just lost 3hrs > work because she thought it was auto-saving and it wasn't, then the > computer crashed :-( > > Andrew Perhaps all 'puters should come with a label 'caveat scriptor'. -- Ian Platt Risc OS4 + StrongARM = UK technology. Continuing to 'think differently':-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:59:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043698131:10:25323:141".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:59:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043698131:10:25323:141; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:08:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1025507; 27 Jan 2003 20:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dFYR-00078s-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:08:27 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RK7mF18056 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:07:48 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.internl.net (altrade.nijmegen.internl.net [217.149.192.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0RK7lL18052 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:07:47 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.internl.net via 1Cust246.tnt34.rtm1.nld.da.uu.net [213.116.162.246] with SMTP for id VAA04632 (8.8.8/1.3); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:05:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <001101c2c640$11658e30$f6a274d5@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:08:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:15 AM, John P. Kerslake wrote: > I had 0.03 when. | ran 0.06 all fonts on screen changed form plain > black to black with red speckles. ? > What should i do? It doesn't happen here. FontFix needs DitherExtend and GDraw. Probably the latest ones, that you can find in the new (32 bit) !AWViewer from Martin Wuerthner on his web site http://www.mw-software.com/ Tonnie -- Mrs Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 16:59:47 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043707590:10:10249:59".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:59:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043707590:10:10249:59; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:46:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1117650; 27 Jan 2003 22:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dI0n-0003M3-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:45:53 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0RMjQ820112 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:45:26 GMT Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (smtp.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0RMjPf20108 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:45:26 GMT Received: from janvredenburchsmile.ch (tch-ls-2-dialup-194.spectraweb.ch [194.230.225.194]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id h0RMjF412099 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:45:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:43:50 +0100 (GMT) From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: Non-rectangular frame bug? To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4bba134c7bowlart@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: CIC member; Secretariaat St. Van Vredenburch X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sat 25 Jan, Owl-Art Un-Ltd. wrote: > > If you create a non rectangular frame (eg. elliptical) in OvationPro (any > version) and the copy the frame elsewhere onto the page and then drag the > frame so that it sits exactly over the top of the original, this causes a > fatal crash. Has anybody else experienced this? Yes, but only if you *copy* the initial frame. If you create a second identical frame and position it on top of the first, this does not happen. As tested on version 2.67. JohnvV -- JM van Vredenburch, CH - 6006 Luzern **new email address** email: janvredenburch@smile.ch . -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Jan 28 17:49:19 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043776050:20:26943:117".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:49:19 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043776050:20:26943:117; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:47:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aw2119837; 28 Jan 2003 17:46 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dZaE-0006OD-00; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:31:38 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0SHU4K26985 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:30:04 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0SHU4U26982 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:30:04 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18dZYh-0005Tr-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:30:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:28:27 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 References: <43efbcb94b.john@xl-cambridge.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I had 0.03 when. | ran 0.06 all fonts on screen changed form plain black to >black with red speckles. ? >What should i do? I think this came up here recently. Later versions of FontFix allow you to replace Draw with GDraw - fine, unless you don't have the GDraw module and it's support modules loaded. Solutions; Install GDraw on boot up Add a commend turning off GDraw support in FontFix just after you load it Go back to FF 0.03 since this doesn't have the bug in which 0.06 fixes -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 29 18:39:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043865471:10:18680:186".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:39:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043865471:10:18680:186; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:37:51 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ae1020306; 29 Jan 2003 18:37 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18dwoD-0004vq-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:19:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0TIJAN26789 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:19:10 GMT Received: from cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.21]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0TIJ9r26776 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:19:09 GMT Received: from modem-101.astelin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.101] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailm5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.10.11) id 18dwnh-0005Fz-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:19:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:52:32 +0000 (GMT) From: "John P. Kerslake" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Font Fix 0.06 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: JPK, Bangor.Pager 07626-235878 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Tue 28 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > > >I had 0.03 when. | ran 0.06 all fonts on screen changed form plain black to > >black with red speckles. ? > >What should i do? > > > I think this came up here recently. Later versions of FontFix allow you > to replace Draw with GDraw - fine, unless you don't have the GDraw > module and it's support modules loaded. > > Solutions; > > Install GDraw on boot up > Add a commend turning off GDraw support in FontFix just after you load > it > Go back to FF 0.03 since this doesn't have the bug in which 0.06 fixes > Thanks All ready back to 0.03 -- J.P. Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. Dyslexia Rules KO. Pager 07626 - 235878, e-mail Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk, 21 Glantraeth, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1HQ. "phone" 01248 - 353264 RiscStation 64 meg 50 ns RAM. 9G HD, Ant INS. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Jan 29 22:29:18 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043878854:20:08195:74".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:29:18 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043878854:20:08195:74; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:20:54 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ay2007592; 29 Jan 2003 22:20 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18e0SB-0006eU-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:13:07 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0TMCY611218 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:12:34 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0TMCX411214 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:12:33 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030129221228.BHWD20174.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:12:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:12:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: [softwarelist] Documents Applet To: Ovation Pro List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I noticed that I've got 2 entries on the Documents menu for the same document which I've been working with this week. I checked the file !OvnPro.Applets.!Document.Documents and see the 2 entries. One has ADFS in caps, the other in lower case though the capitalisation of the rest of the path is identical in both entries. When I open this document from the Documents menu only the instance I clicked is greyed out. Of the other entries some have ADFS and some have adfs. Have I made some change which causes the applet to record the filing system differently? The only recent change is re-initialising CDFSSoftSCSI2 as I've added SCSI CD-Rom and CD-R drives - could this cause it? (RISC OS 4.33 but that hasn't changed in the life of the document I have 2 entries for.) As I look at the screen now, Filer windows show adfs but Zap windows show ADFS in the title bars. Any comments? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 30 20:04:10 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043956581:20:04114:103".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:04:10 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043956581:20:04114:103; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:56:21 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115724; 30 Jan 2003 19:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eKml-00008h-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:43 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UJtEh29350 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0UJtDf29346 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:13 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18eKmH-0006D1-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:13 +0000 Message-ID: <4CNagIIQLYO+EwXh@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:53:52 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Tim Powys-Lybbe > I noticed that I've got 2 entries on the Documents menu for the same document > which I've been working with this week. > As I look at the screen now, Filer windows show adfs but Zap windows show > ADFS in the title bars. Move one to a separate directory and then compare them. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 30 20:04:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043956684:20:07144:80".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:04:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043956684:20:07144:80; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:58:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2120542; 30 Jan 2003 19:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eKng-0000fA-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:56:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UJuYV29584 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:56:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0UJuXD29581 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:56:33 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18eKnZ-0006Sp-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:56:33 +0000 Message-ID: <6Ssa0cIVMYO+Ew33@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:55:01 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >As I look at the screen now, Filer windows show adfs but Zap windows show >ADFS in the title bars. Anything to do with how you open the filer windows. ISTR Filer_Open ADFS::HardDisc4.$.directory and Filer_Open adfs::HardDisc4.$.directory open two windows. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 30 20:54:12 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043959956:10:26191:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:54:12 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043959956:10:26191:46; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:52:36 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1121150; 30 Jan 2003 20:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eLeq-00018V-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0UKpUD08670 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:30 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0UKpTb08659 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:29 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030130205124.VICL22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <6Ssa0cIVMYO+Ew33@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Thu 30 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > >As I look at the screen now, Filer windows show adfs but Zap windows show > >ADFS in the title bars. > > Anything to do with how you open the filer windows. ISTR > > Filer_Open ADFS::HardDisc4.$.directory > > and > > Filer_Open adfs::HardDisc4.$.directory > > open two windows. I cannot replicate the 2 windows - once a directory window is open another Filer_OpenDir brings the existing window to the front. Maybe in an earlier version of RISC OS? Otherwise spot on. I have an obey file run at boot to open adfs::HardDisc4.$ - any windows I open from that show the lower case version but if I close that and open filer windows from the iconbar it shows ADFS. I think I'll change my Obey file to stop it confusing me. Back to the Applet - is there a way to remove entries from the Documents menu other than hacking the Data file inside the applet? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Jan 30 21:24:17 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043961461:20:08123:250".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:24:17 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043961461:20:08123:250; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:17:41 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2012037; 30 Jan 2003 21:17 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eM3U-0002FR-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:17:04 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0ULGfs14113 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:16:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0ULGfv14109 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:16:41 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18eM36-0001VR-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:16:41 +0000 Message-ID: <0jCJYLJuXZO+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:15:26 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet References: <6Ssa0cIVMYO+Ew33@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I cannot replicate the 2 windows - once a directory window is open another >Filer_OpenDir brings the existing window to the front. Maybe in an earlier >version of RISC OS? I'm probably thinking of other ways of locating the same folder on disc but with a different path. >Back to the Applet - is there a way to remove entries from the Documents >menu other than hacking the Data file inside the applet? I'd go with the hacking. You could load a few documents and flush it that way. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 00:04:37 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043971331:10:08427:89".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:04:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043971331:10:08427:89; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:02:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1128101; 31 Jan 2003 0:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eOcn-00021J-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:01:41 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0V00u909868 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:00:56 GMT Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.94]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0V00tp09862 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:00:55 GMT Received: from RPC ([213.48.248.25]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:00:53 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:57:18 +0000 From: Bruce Goatly To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0jCJYLJuXZO+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Perfect Page X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b User-Agent: POPstar/2.01b12 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <0jCJYLJuXZO+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > >I cannot replicate the 2 windows - once a directory window is open another > >Filer_OpenDir brings the existing window to the front. Maybe in an earlier > >version of RISC OS? > > I'm probably thinking of other ways of locating the same folder on disc > but with a different path. I managed to get the two-windows effect with *filer_opendir ADFS::harddisc4.$ *filer_opendir adfs::4.$ in both RO 3.7 and RO 5.02. For what it's worth... Bruce -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 14:04:00 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1043983009:10:05341:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:04:00 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1043983009:10:05341:62; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:16:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1005416; 31 Jan 2003 3:16 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eRfO-00073E-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:16:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0V3F4E29681 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:15:04 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0V3F3E29678 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:15:04 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18eRdv-000L5a-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:15:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:14:02 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP: Autosave problem(?) References: <4bba12e621owlart@argonet.co.uk> <4bbacd0053owlart@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bbacd0053owlart@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >> >With OvationPro's Autosave feature, I have come across a problem (or >> >maybe a feature, not sure). If at any time when it prompts me if I >> >wish to autosave, I say 'No', it will stop autosaving completely. I'd >> >quite like it to carry on asking me every 10 mins, and just give me >> >the choice not to save this time. Any ideas on this one? I think its a bit more subtle. Firstly there are rules, it will prompt if you've set it to prompt, or the first time it attempts to autosave. If you reject a prompt for autosave, then autosave is cancelled until the document is changed again, when the autosave timeout sets off once more. So if you modify a document, reject a prompt, and then make no more changes, then yes your document sits there waiting for the computer to crash. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 14:53:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044024337:10:28509:209".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:53:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044024337:10:28509:209; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:45:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1105468; 31 Jan 2003 14:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ecJ7-0000qr-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:38:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VEbN206330 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:37:23 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VEbNM06327 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:37:23 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030131143722.JMBM22267.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:37:22 +0000 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:37:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Thu 30 Jan, Bruce Goatly wrote: > In message <0jCJYLJuXZO+EwEP@pilling.demon.co.uk> you wrote: > > > >I cannot replicate the 2 windows - once a directory window is open > > >another Filer_OpenDir brings the existing window to the front. Maybe in > > >an earlier version of RISC OS? > > > > I'm probably thinking of other ways of locating the same folder on disc > > but with a different path. > > I managed to get the two-windows effect with > > *filer_opendir ADFS::harddisc4.$ > *filer_opendir adfs::4.$ > > in both RO 3.7 and RO 5.02. And here RO 4.33 The significant difference is the disc name not the case of the filing system name. > For what it's worth... Just fills a few moments trying it out! Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 15:33:38 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044026670:20:07833:51".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:33:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044026670:20:07833:51; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:24:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ao2006271; 31 Jan 2003 15:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ect6-0000gJ-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:15:28 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VFFN924875 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:15:23 GMT Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net (post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VFFMX24871 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:15:22 GMT Received: from [212.238.2.84] (helo=waarland.demon.nl) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18ecsy-000JgK-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 15:15:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:16:12 +0100 (GMT) From: Johan Heuseveldt Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Documents Applet To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-No-Markup: yes X-No-Archive: yes X-Organization: Waarland & Echteweide (Realfieldt), the Netherlands X-Url: X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Platform: RISC OS (Reduced Instruction Set Computer Operating System) X-Platform2: now running RISC OS 4 Select 2 [4.33] X-System: Acorn RiscPC 600 X-Processor: StrongARM 110 on my first RiscPC (RPC1) X-Wishes: RISCOS Ltd succeeding in the continues development of RISC OS X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi all, On Fri 31 Jan, Anthony Hilton wrote: > In on Thu 30 Jan, Bruce Goatly wrote: > > I managed to get the two-windows effect with > > > > *filer_opendir ADFS::harddisc4.$ > > *filer_opendir adfs::4.$ > > > > in both RO 3.7 and RO 5.02. > > And here RO 4.33 > > The significant difference is the disc name not the case of the filing > system name. Actually the latter used the disc /number/! In fact any different string referencing the same directory can open a new window on that directory. So if the bootdisc is disc 4 of ADFS and named as HD4, all the following command lines refer to the same directory, but open seperate windows: Filer_OpenDir ADFS::4.$.!Boot Filer_OpenDir ADFS::HD4.$.!Boot Filer_OpenDir ADFS::4.$.!Boot.^.!Boot Filer_OpenDir ADFS::HD4.$.!Boot.^.!Boot Filer_OpenDir Boot: AFAIK this has been normal behaviour in any version of RISC OS. At least from 3.10 when I bought my A5000 as my first RISC OS machine. FWIW greetings from the Netherlands, johan -- Johan Heuseveldt aka waarland The best place is a Riscy place "Die? I should say not, dear fellow. No Barrymore would allow such a conventional thing to happen to him." John Barrymore's dying words -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 16:33:55 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044030622:10:10205:160".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:33:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044030622:10:10205:160; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:30:22 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id al1108290; 31 Jan 2003 16:30 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ee0r-0000BL-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:27:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VGR3413912 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:27:03 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VGR2E13903 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:27:02 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ee0L-0007A5-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:27:02 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:25:40 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro to HTML MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I notice that there is an Ovation Pro to HTML convertor on the Risc World CD Volume 3 Issue 5 February 2003. I think it is fair to represent this as being a route from Ovation Pro documents to simple HTML - i.e. the intention is not to preserve layout but to get the data out of OPro files. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 21:33:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044048537:20:10978:158".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:33:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044048537:20:10978:158; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:28:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2128503; 31 Jan 2003 21:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eiha-0004u0-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:27:58 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VLRFc19636 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:27:15 GMT Received: from tiger.actrix.co.nz (tiger.actrix.co.nz [203.96.16.160]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VLRCh19628 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:27:13 GMT Received: from .actrix.gen.nz (ak-d18.connections.net.nz [202.154.128.18]) by tiger.actrix.co.nz (Postfix) with SMTP id 11E7C4983 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:26:59 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:28:31 +1400 From: David Love To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OP-Styles Message-ID: <768597bd4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi! After several years use of OP I have started using Styles and all but one work as expected. The rogue one is for Paragraphs. Most times it works but sometimes it doesn't. The set up is: Scope = Paragraph (I've tried Selection as well), 10pt (Trinity) + Justify + Auto Kern + Justification + Tab ruler. It should happen that all but the first paragraph of an article is indented 5 mm. Most of the material is in the form of text files dropped into OP and I thought this might be the problem, so manually typed in the same material and applied the style Paragraph, without success. I have pressed Ctrl-I to display invisibles and the paragraph symbol is shown, without any extraneous ones that I can see. I've just selected text in a 21 page document (text and images) and cancelled Paragraph style on all items. All text aligned to the left margin, as expected. Reapplied the style to each item in turn and second and subsequent paragraphs were indented 5 mm. on all but the last item. And for the life of me I cannot see any difference :-( Is there anyone who can point me in the right direction as to what could be the cause? If necessary, I'll send the rogue text file for you to try. Regards from New Zealand on a very pleasant Saturday morning. David -- David Love I took an IQ test and the results were negative. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 21:43:47 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044049362:10:21240:180".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:43:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044049362:10:21240:180; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:42 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1021320; 31 Jan 2003 21:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eivX-0005xh-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:23 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VLgD222362 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:13 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VLgDA22357 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:13 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18eivM-0001Nb-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:40:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP-Styles References: <768597bd4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <768597bd4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >After several years use of OP I have started using Styles and all but >one work as expected. The rogue one is for Paragraphs. Most times it >works but sometimes it doesn't. The common catch is that local effects take priority over any applied styles. So if you've applied Bold to a piece of text, you can apply all the styles you want, it will remain bold. Select all, Remove All Styles and Effects can be useful. >Regards from New Zealand on a very pleasant Saturday morning. Bah! Britain shivers in white hell, shock horror. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 21:53:45 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044049465:10:24608:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:53:45 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044049465:10:24608:43; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:44:25 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1023555; 31 Jan 2003 21:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18eiwj-00067k-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:43:37 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VLhYP22596 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:43:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VLhXp22593 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:43:33 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18eiwf-0006Vr-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:43:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4EE6x+L32uO+EwXj@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:42:15 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro to HTML References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Anthony Hilton > > I notice that there is an Ovation Pro to HTML convertor on the Risc > World CD Volume 3 Issue 5 February 2003. I don't sub scribe to RiscWorld - is this program available anywhere else? > I think it is fair to represent this as being a route from Ovation Pro > documents to simple HTML - i.e. the intention is not to preserve layout > but to get the data out of OPro files. This is the function I'd want. To preserve layout I print to PDF format. How does the program work - via DDL like David Breakwell's RTF exporter? Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 22:43:46 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044052996:20:28126:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:43:46 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044052996:20:28126:56; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:43:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2118175; 31 Jan 2003 22:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ejrB-0006QL-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:41:57 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VMex631530 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:40:59 GMT Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VMewa31527 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:40:59 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18ejqE-00063a-0Z for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:40:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:39:19 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro to HTML References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > I notice that there is an Ovation Pro to HTML convertor on the Risc > World CD Volume 3 Issue 5 February 2003. >I don't to RiscWorld - is this program available anywhere else? Not as far as I know. Risc World is David Holden, APDL etc. >How does the program work - via DDL like David Breakwell's RTF exporter? As of now it is a standalone program, you save your doc as DDL and then use the program on it. I've suggested to David Holden he allow it's use as a 'transsaver' so it would just appear as another file save format. David Holden tells me a HTML to Ovation Pro DDL convertor is to appear in the next issue of Risc World. We're also told (in this issue) that the next issue will contain startling news. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 23:03:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044053839:10:25054:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:03:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044053839:10:25054:61; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:57:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1024912; 31 Jan 2003 22:57 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ek5j-00089g-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:56:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VMusK01254 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:56:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VMusN01250 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:56:54 GMT Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ek5c-0004kC-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:56:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:53:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP-Styles Message-ID: <4bbda4c1a4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <768597bd4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 31 Jan, David Pilling wrote: > >Regards from New Zealand on a very pleasant Saturday morning. > Bah! > Britain shivers in white hell, shock horror. Which is a sneaky fabrication! ;-) Unless he has sneakily moved south or east David has probably suffered from a pleasant sunny day (OK with snow flurries this evening). It's just the less important bits of Britain that had the whiteout. ;-) -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 Acorn Publisher magazine & http://www.acornpublisher.com Fleur Designs (boardgames) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Jan 31 23:23:48 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044055160:20:18860:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:23:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044055160:20:18860:68; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:19:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2108089; 31 Jan 2003 23:19 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ekRA-0004i4-00; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:19:08 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h0VNJ3r04762 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:19:03 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0VNJ3m04759 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:19:03 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18ekR4-0004tu-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:19:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:17:43 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP-Styles References: <768597bd4b.zed@actrix.co.nz> <4bbda4c1a4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4bbda4c1a4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >It's just the less important bits of Britain that had the whiteout. ;-) > Ah I only know what I see on the TV. Here where the Gulf stream laps the shores, it's been cool this week, not enough to trouble the palm trees, no snow, chucking it down with rain now. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Feb 1 01:53:53 2003 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1044064303:10:19221:79".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:53:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1044064303:10:19221:79; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:51:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1126213; 1 Feb 2003 1:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18emoP-0007hz-00; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:51:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h111oce19329 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:50:38 GMT Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h111ocB19326 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:50:38 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18emnm-00074I-0d for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 01:50:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:49:06 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ovation Pro to HTML References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > David Holden tells me a HTML to Ovation Pro DDL convertor is to appear > in the next issue of Risc World. > > We're also told (in this issue) that the next issue will contain > startling news. That Microdigital will have delivered an Omega? Truly startling, that. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net