From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 2 03:06:23 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036205990:20:22594:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 03:06:23 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036205990:20:22594:50; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:59:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022649; 2 Nov 2002 2:59 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 187oUw-0004Jz-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:58:54 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA22urg17286 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:56:53 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22uqj17283 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:56:52 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 187oSk-0004uq-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 02:56:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:55:07 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] 32 bit news References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8eb3eff2steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, I've put up some thoughts about 32 bit versions on my web site www.davidpilling.net/news.html For now this is all I know. More information will come to light. But some of it is for sure - don't mix 26 and 32 bit applets in OP, remember that... -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 2 13:31:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036223537:10:29583:90".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:31:24 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036223537:10:29583:90; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:52:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1101216; 2 Nov 2002 7:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 187t3h-00016s-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:51:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA27oLl30771 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:50:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mail.chariot.net.au (mail.chariot.net.au [203.87.95.38]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA27oJn30765 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:50:19 GMT Received: from localhost (ppp-188.cust203-87-120.ghr.chariot.net.au [203.87.120.188]) by mail.chariot.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 00AD717FF6E for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:19:58 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:43:14 +1030 From: Peter Prewett To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] OP changing fonts Message-ID: <007a648d4b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.00e) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I was editing an RTF, from a web site, and changing the font Homerton to Trinity medium. I was operating on each section in turn and when the selection was over a page boundary some of the text became outlined and some text remained highlighted. I needed to do a screen redraw via F12 or do a page up or down to clear the display. Is this usual!! I am using OP 2.67 with Select 4.29 Cheers Peter -- Peter Prewett, Coromandel Valley, South Australia -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 2 13:31:28 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036225589:10:02146:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:31:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036225589:10:02146:42; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:26:29 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002078; 2 Nov 2002 8:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 187tb4-00024W-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:25:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA28PB932705 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:25:11 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA28PAi32702 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:25:10 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102082455.FKUW27595.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:24:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:24:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit news To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sat 02 Nov, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > > I've put up some thoughts about 32 bit versions on my web site > www.davidpilling.net/news.html I know Marcel is old and not getting much (if any) upgrade attention at present - please could I request people put the http:// in URLs so that Marcel will highlight them as links. There are various workarounds available but highlighting in the body of a mail message is so much more convenient. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Sat Nov 2 13:31:28 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036225925:10:07405:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:31:28 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036225925:10:07405:61; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:32:05 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007318; 2 Nov 2002 8:31 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 187th3-0002Z7-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:31:45 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA28V6T00575 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:31:06 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA28V5Y00572 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:31:05 GMT Received: from risco.home ([80.7.75.69]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102083050.FPCK27595.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@risco.home> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:30:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:30:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Anthony Hilton Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP changing fonts To: Ovation Pro List In-Reply-To: <007a648d4b.pprewett@chariot.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Wed 30 Oct, Peter Prewett wrote: > I was editing an RTF, from a web site, and changing the font Homerton to > Trinity medium. > > I was operating on each section in turn and when the selection was over > a page boundary some of the text became outlined and some text remained > highlighted. I needed to do a screen redraw via F12 or do a page up or > down to clear the display. > > Is this usual!! > > I am using OP 2.67 with Select 4.29 I have been seeing this sort of effect in Opro for a long time - certainly 2.5x up to 2.67 on various versions of RISC OS (3.5, 3.7, 4.29, 4.32 - I never had 3.6 and didn't use 4.02 for any length of time before installing 4.29). I hadn't asociated it before with a selection crossing a page boundary but the latest time I saw it was across a page boundary. Any editing which involves highlighting a block of text, making a change and un-highlighting the text can cause this. Anthony -- ajh@tinshill.f9.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:36 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036272860:20:19408:70".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:36 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036272860:20:19408:70; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:34:20 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2100888; 2 Nov 2002 21:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1885to-0003k2-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:33:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA2LXVJ12469 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:33:31 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LXUe12466 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:33:30 GMT Received: from [80.40.72.101] (helo=ukgateway.net) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1885tB-0008bW-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:33:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:11:58 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b8eb8ef80docmart@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4b8e39c617steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e39c617steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 31 Oct, Steven Pampling wrote: > The Iomega web site has a link for people with VIA chipsets and problems > with such things. The problem applies to more than just Zip drives but the > link from Iomega is easy to find. > "Busmaster drivers" is the issue. Thanks. I'll check there again to see if there's something I missed last time I tried. John -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:37 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036273872:20:05975:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036273872:20:05975:43; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:51:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2129997; 2 Nov 2002 21:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18868F-00029E-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:48:39 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA2LnUi13526 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:49:30 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.40]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LnTp13522 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:49:29 GMT Received: from [80.40.75.35] (helo=ukgateway.net) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1886BV-000C2K-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:52:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:40:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b8f44da51docmart@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 01 Nov, Steven Pampling wrote: > > It really comes down to which you prefer to use, so it's essential to go > > to shops and try them out. > I was talking principally to John, who I know to work for the NHS (last I > knew), and I think I can state that most NHS establishments run NT/2000 > domains with machines locked up tighter than a ducks nether regions. I still work for the NHS** Compatibility with my MS Office software is very important to me, and as such I looked at the available offerings today and bought myself a fairly cheap one ... The Packard Bell handheld for 248ukp. Now I need to go hunting for a Database app for it (can't be doing with that Excel thingy on the handheld) John ** As one of those 'lazy consultants' I of course only work when I can't avoid it ... don't start me off about the Press and the rejection of the New Contract. 8-) John -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:38 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036276359:20:18019:128".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:38 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036276359:20:18019:128; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:32:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2115511; 2 Nov 2002 22:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 1886nh-0004XO-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:31:29 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA2MWMC16426 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:22 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2MWMS16423 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:22 GMT Received: from [213.116.56.91] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1886oD-0004sT-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:32:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:47:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] 32 bit news Message-ID: <4b8ef8983asteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8eb3eff2steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 02 Nov, David Pilling wrote: > Hi, > I've put up some thoughts about 32 bit versions on my web site > www.davidpilling.net/news.html > For now this is all I know. More information will come to light. But > some of it is for sure - don't mix 26 and 32 bit applets in OP, remember > that... OP32 needs someway of distinguishing between them to try and stop daft users. We will do it, you know we will... -- What kind of insanity destroys fields to replace what already exists? Stop Rugby Airport now before it's too late... Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:41 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036321951:20:28638:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:41 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036321951:20:28638:43; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:12:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028593; 3 Nov 2002 11:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 188Iet-0000qF-00; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:11:11 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA3BBiT32729 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:11:44 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3BBiY32726 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:11:44 GMT Received: from g1rcw.demon.co.uk ([193.237.116.170] helo=g1rcw) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 188If5-00009i-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:11:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:08:03 GMT From: John Chetwynd To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8eb3eff2steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.32) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > >Should I suggest that people preface items relating to Windows stuff with a > >[WIN] in the subject so that people can filter them out? > > Good idea. > > So who saw my software running on a 32 bit RISC OS machine at the show? > > (he said, trying to get back on topic) > I did! It was the main application being demonstrated, from what I could see. Default screen resolution was 1600x1200 16M colours. It looked very impressive. It chocked a bit bit when I asked the guy to go up a size (1920x1440), it took a couple of seconds to do a complete redraw of the background graphic and the icon bar. But then it is only an alpha release. I think I know what my next machine will be. -- John Chetwynd RiscPC, 200MHz StrongARM, RISC OS 4.32 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:47 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036340850:20:16599:62".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:47 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036340850:20:16599:62; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:27:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104754; 3 Nov 2002 16:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 188Na8-0003Qn-00; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:26:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA3GQUD27355 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:26:30 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3GQTT27352 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:26:29 GMT Received: from [62.188.154.95] (helo=62.188.154.95) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 188NZf-00051T-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:26:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 15:04:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Barcode applet Message-ID: <4b8fa47eb8charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , John P. Kerslake wrote: > When sending letters abroad wdoes anyone have a list of country prefixes? > thanks I don't understand the question. Telephone numbers have a country prefix, e-mails generally have a country suffix, but this is part of the address, so you should be given it by the person to whom you are writing. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:51 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036359748:20:14200:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:51 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036359748:20:14200:47; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:42:28 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121282; 3 Nov 2002 21:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 188ST6-0004td-00; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:39:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA3Le7827431 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:40:07 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Le6w27428 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:40:06 GMT Received: from bvista.demon.co.uk ([194.222.32.134]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 188STA-0007U6-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:39:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:40:06 +0000 (GMT) From: "A.F. Taylor" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Arthur Taylor X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In on Sun 03 Nov, John Chetwynd wrote: > In message you wrote: > > > >Should I suggest that people preface items relating to Windows stuff with a > > >[WIN] in the subject so that people can filter them out? > > > > Good idea. > > > > So who saw my software running on a 32 bit RISC OS machine at the show? > > > > (he said, trying to get back on topic) > > > I did! It was the main application being demonstrated, from what I could > see. Default screen resolution was 1600x1200 16M colours. It looked very > impressive. It chocked a bit bit when I asked the guy to go up a size > (1920x1440), it took a couple of seconds to do a complete redraw of the > background graphic and the icon bar. But then it is only an alpha > release. > Yes, it looked good, however, the text line still flickered as you typed! I had hoped that the extra speed might have made this less noticable. (Says he, swanking because he touch-types - very inaccurately - and so does notice this!) Regards, -- Arthur Taylor, Poole, Dorset -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:28:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036375561:20:06935:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036375561:20:06935:45; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 02:06:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006478; 4 Nov 2002 2:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 188Wb3-0003o0-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 02:04:09 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA424x626816 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 02:04:59 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com (smtp01.fields.gol.com [203.216.5.131]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA424vk26813 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 02:04:58 GMT Received: from 53-1-080.tky.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.66.80] helo=plattir.gol.com) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with smtp (Magnetic Fields) id 188WbR-0005ko-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:04:33 +0900 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:50:13 +0000 (GMT) From: "Ian R. Platt" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Barcode applet To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4b8fa47eb8charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sun 03 Nov, charles.hope wrote: > > In article , > John P. Kerslake wrote: > > When sending letters abroad wdoes anyone have a list of country prefixes? > > thanks > > I don't understand the question. Telephone numbers have a country prefix, > e-mails generally have a country suffix, but this is part of the address, > so you should be given it by the person to whom you are writing. > Check the post subject, Charles... ;-) Ian -- Ian Platt Risc OS4 + StrongARM = UK technology. Continuing to 'think differently':-) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:29:03 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036437818:20:23818:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:29:03 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036437818:20:23818:46; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:23:38 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2123898; 4 Nov 2002 19:22 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 188mmj-0002h2-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:21:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA4JM0q14995 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:22:00 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4JM0F14987 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:22:00 GMT Received: from modem-115.rhenium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.57.115] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 188mmx-0002Jc-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:21:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:46:28 +0000 (GMT) From: "John P. Kerslake" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Barcode applet To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4b8fa47eb8charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: JPK, Bangor.Pager 07626-235878 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Sun 03 Nov, charles.hope wrote: > > In article , > John P. Kerslake wrote: > > When sending letters abroad wdoes anyone have a list of country prefixes? > > thanks > > I don't understand the question. Telephone numbers have a country prefix, > e-mails generally have a country suffix, but this is part of the address, > so you should be given it by the person to whom you are writing. > > Sorry I shall rephrase the question:- The barcode applet generates a barcode of the postcode/zip code. There is a box for "International prefix". What code / name do i need to enter to get the letter directed to xxyyaa in canadia etc and not xxyyaa in the UK. The main point of adding a barcode is to let the sorting equipment sort the mail without needing human help. -- J.P. Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. Dyslexia Rules KO. Pager 07626 - 235878, e-mail Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk, 21 Glantraeth, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1HQ. "phone" 01248 - 353264 RiscStation 64 meg 50 ns RAM. 9G HD, Ant INS. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:29:09 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036272849:10:15159:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:29:09 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036272849:10:15159:46; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:34:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1113452; 2 Nov 2002 21:34 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1885to-0003k1-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:33:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA2LXZY12477 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:33:35 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LXZZ12474 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:33:35 GMT Received: from [80.40.72.101] (helo=ukgateway.net) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1885tF-0008bW-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:33:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Martin To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:13:01 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b8eb9085ddocmart@ukgateway.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 01 Nov, Brian Howlett wrote: > > It's a 663AS ULTRA with the VIA KT-133A chipset. > > > > Come to think of it that probably explains why I sometimes have > > problems with my Soundblaster card (I never got on very well with the > > onboard sound for some reason) > > > Rapidly getting even further OT... Try downloading the latest 4-in-1 > drivers from Thanks. I'll try that. John -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:29:13 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036273987:10:02596:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:29:13 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036273987:10:02596:50; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:53:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002378; 2 Nov 2002 21:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 1886BW-0002Df-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:52:02 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA2LqrE13735 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:52:53 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Lqrb13732 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:52:53 GMT Received: from [62.188.133.102] (helo=62.188.133.102) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1886Bz-0004Ah-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:52:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b8f45fb78charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b8d2fbcffdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dba369bdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8dbd2ebdsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8e32e888docmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8eb3eff2steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >Should I suggest that people preface items relating to Windows stuff > >with a [WIN] in the subject so that people can filter them out? > Good idea. > So who saw my software running on a 32 bit RISC OS machine at the show? > (he said, trying to get back on topic) I did. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 17:29:20 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036329118:10:28576:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:29:20 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036329118:10:28576:49; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:11:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1102366; 3 Nov 2002 13:11 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 188KXF-0001bE-00; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:11:25 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA3DBHA10144 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:11:17 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DBHK10140 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:11:17 GMT Received: from modem-110.osmium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.57.238] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 188KWm-00055j-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:10:57 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:10:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "John P. Kerslake" Subject: [softwarelist] Barcode applet To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: JPK, Bangor.Pager 07626-235878 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist When sending letters abroad wdoes anyone have a list of country prefixes? thanks -- J.P. Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. Dyslexia Rules KO. Pager 07626 - 235878, e-mail Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk, 21 Glantraeth, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1HQ. "phone" 01248 - 353264 RiscStation 64 meg 50 ns RAM. 9G HD, Ant INS. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 19:48:27 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036525092:10:26133:78".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:48:27 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036525092:10:26133:78; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:38:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1026431; 5 Nov 2002 19:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1899W8-0007eK-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:37:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA5Jbf815025 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:37:41 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5JbeN15022 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:37:40 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1899Vg-000Nyd-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:37:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:36:05 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Barcode applet References: <4b8fa47eb8charles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Sorry I shall rephrase the question:- The barcode applet generates a >barcode of the postcode/zip code. There is a box for "International prefix". >What code / name do i need to enter to get the letter directed to xxyyaa >in canadia etc and not xxyyaa in the UK. The main point of adding a barcode >is to let the sorting equipment sort the mail without needing human help. I've no idea. My feeling is that the UK PO put in a prefix field in the hope that the system would be standardised and adopted world wide. Again I feel that has not come to pass. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 5 22:58:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036536511:20:24493:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:58:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036536511:20:24493:45; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:48:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024002; 5 Nov 2002 22:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189CTv-00047f-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:47:35 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA5MlXV04665 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:47:33 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5MlWW04662 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:47:32 GMT Received: from janvredenburchsmile.ch (abo-be-1-1-dialup-234.spectraweb.ch [194.230.116.234]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id gA5Mktt07696 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:46:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:43:22 +0100 (GMT) From: Jhr JMAH van Vredenburch Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Barcode applet To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: CIC member; Secretariaat St. Van Vredenburch X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Tue 05 Nov, David Pilling wrote: > > >Sorry I shall rephrase the question:- The barcode applet generates a > >barcode of the postcode/zip code. There is a box for "International prefix". > >What code / name do i need to enter to get the letter directed to xxyyaa > >in canadia etc and not xxyyaa in the UK. The main point of adding a barcode > >is to let the sorting equipment sort the mail without needing human help. > > I've no idea. My feeling is that the UK PO put in a prefix field in the > hope that the system would be standardised and adopted world wide. Again > I feel that has not come to pass. By pure chance I found a very old document in my late Mother's estate a few days ago. It dates from the time shortly after that a postal coding was introduced in Switzerland. The document advises how one should insert the postal coding within an address. And also states that as an "International prefix" one should use the same abbreviation as used for motor vehicles. GB for Great Britain, CDN=Canada, NL=Netherlands, etc. To be added as follows: GB code (name of town) GB - 1234abc (name of town) Nevertheless, I believe David Pilling's conclusion is correct. Actually I never use the prefix "GB" for the UK, only the local postal code. Highly recommended as it speeds up the delivery. Snail mail from my home to a small village near Mildenhall now normally within 40 hours. Without barcode 3 days plus. -- JM van Vredenburch, CH - 6006 Luzern **new email address** email: janvredenburch@smile.ch . -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 02:48:43 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036550881:10:15609:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:48:43 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036550881:10:15609:40; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:48:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015392; 6 Nov 2002 2:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189Fyf-0002fe-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:31:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA62Vk619793 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:31:46 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Vkg19790 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:31:46 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 189FyP-0004GH-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:31:17 +0000 Message-ID: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:30:08 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] 32 Bit OP References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist From: "Richard Brown" Hi All I Spent all day using OP 32Bit on an Iyonix and had no problems moving a 17Mb Sprite around in it. Sorry didn't have time to try out other things too many people to show to. Thank you to all who came and made it a great day. Cheers Richard Brown -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 14:29:06 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036590467:20:22252:151".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:29:06 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036590467:20:22252:151; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:47:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2024036; 6 Nov 2002 13:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189QVu-0002IJ-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:46:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6Diqu22880 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:52 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6DioG22871 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:51 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gA6DiNG3008219 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:23 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:42:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Who are they really from? Message-ID: <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Just as a matter of interest, all the messages from this list have the author as David Pilling and not the actual writer. It seems to be because the headers have From: David Pilling I think I have Pluto set up correctly for a mail list, but does anyone else get this? I've put the headers of a typical message below Cheers, Ray D In article <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 > Return-Path: > Received: from server0053.freedom2surf.net (server0053.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.142]) > by server0034.freedom2surf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id CAA12634 > for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:32:17 GMT > Received: from mx4.123-reg.co.uk (mx0.123-reg.co.uk [212.67.202.216]) > by server0053.freedom2surf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU/f2s) with ESMTP id CAA03639 > for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:32:18 GMT > Received: from [212.69.192.6] (helo=smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net) > by mx4.123-reg.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) > id 189FzK-00086S-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:32:14 +0000 > Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) > by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) > id 189Fyg-0002fe-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:31:34 +0000 > Received: (from admin@localhost) > by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA62Vk619793 > for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:31:46 GMT > X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f > Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) > by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Vkg19790 > for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:31:46 GMT > Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) > by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) > id 189FyP-0004GH-0U > for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 02:31:17 +0000 > Message-ID: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:30:08 +0000 > To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net > From: David Pilling > Subject: [softwarelist] 32 Bit OP > References: > > In-Reply-To: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed > User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) > Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net > X-maillist: softwarelist -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 14:29:07 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036590947:20:08275:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:29:07 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036590947:20:08275:53; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:55:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2120212; 6 Nov 2002 13:55 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189Qe7-0002hK-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:55:03 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6DrlD24788 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:47 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Drkn24784 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:46 GMT Received: from riscpc.at.home ([80.4.7.32]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021106135315.RWHB27595.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@riscpc.at.home> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:53:10 GMT From: John Pettigrew To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Who are they really from? Message-ID: References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> X-Organization: XL Cambridge User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.00cS) (RISC-OS/4.02) X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In a previous message, Ray Dawson wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, all the messages from this list have the > author as David Pilling and not the actual writer. Here, most are correctly listed with the real author (MPro, in case it matters!). The only emails to appear to come from DP are those that *are* from DP, and those that he has kindly posted to the list despite being from addresses that aren't subscribed. It so happened that the message you replied to was such a reposted msg :-) Your email, however, had the correct headers: > From: Ray Dawson > To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:42:23 +0000 (GMT) > Subject: [softwarelist] Who are they really from? > Message-ID: <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> HTH, John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies! -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 14:48:37 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036593403:20:16780:68".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:48:37 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036593403:20:16780:68; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:36:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2104046; 6 Nov 2002 14:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189RHg-0005JA-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:35:56 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6EaQV00564 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:36:27 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EaPI00559 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:36:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 189RHe-000ABi-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:35:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:34:46 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] colour correction References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hello, Printing pictures (photographs) from Ovation to our QMS-2060 (b/w) and QMS-Minolta Magicolor 6110 (both poscript) gives always too dark results. Printing the same pictures from Illustrator or Photoshop gives complete different -but better- results, even without any colorprofile installed. We don't bother too much from the Adobe-applications, but we would be happy with satisfying results from Ovation. I know colourmanagement is a tricky thing, but perhaps somebody can give us some advice. The colour correction choices in Ovation don't influence the output. Perhaps we should make an other table (not 'typeset'), but where do we start? Thanks, Arnold -- Arnold Tekst & Uitleg Schaijk Netherlands op www.uitleg.nl Dienblad op www.dienblad.nl / Landerdsite op www.landerd.net Telefoon 0486-463112 / Fax 0486-463537 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 21:58:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036619554:20:01386:78".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036619554:20:01386:78; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:52:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001979; 6 Nov 2002 21:52 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 189Y4Q-0008OQ-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:50:42 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6Lp0a09676 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:51:00 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from he103war.uk.vianw.net (he103war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.249.210]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Lp0D09670 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:51:00 GMT Received: from [195.102.205.127] (helo=bulldog.u-net.com) by he103war.uk.vianw.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 189Y39-0007i4-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:49:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:04:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Who are they really from? Message-ID: <4b914b6853chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b912872baray@raydawson.com>, Ray Dawson wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, all the messages from this list have > the author as David Pilling and not the actual writer. It seems to > be because the headers have From: David Pilling > > I think I have Pluto set up correctly for a mail list, but does > anyone else get this? I've put the headers of a typical message > below Well, as you can see from the headers, I am using Pluto, and it correctly shows the true author (unless the message has been forwarded to the list by David himself, when it does indeed show David as the author). Chris... -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 23:08:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036623684:20:02898:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:08:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036623684:20:02898:66; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:01:24 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2127721; 6 Nov 2002 23:00 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 189Z8R-00046n-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:58:55 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6MxJF17379 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:59:19 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MxJg17376 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:59:19 GMT Received: from [62.188.134.203] (helo=62.188.134.203) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189Z8E-00020u-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:58:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:50:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk>, Steven Pampling wrote: > I stand by the comment, Palm OS offerings are *****, cheap but ***** If you like slow but colourful graphics, a questionable UI and lots of eye candy then the Pocket PC stuff is for you. Palm apps are faster, more compact and the UI enforces a lot of consitency (sounds a bit familier with another OS..). It looks as though the final fight with PDAs will be between Palm and MS. Dell are about to launch a range of PPC based PDAs so unless the newer Palms (see the Tungsten T for the first Arm based Palm) capture some of the platforms past glories its likely that MS will 'win' (and all the rest of us loose?). > Oh, and they are unlikely to ever be easy to synch with RO apps. If it wasn't for the World Scout Jamboree looming close (and taking a lot of time) we would have a new desktop diary, to do list, address book type app for Risc OS that is suited to syncing with PDAs. I've spent a lot of time looking at !Organizer and the others seeing if these are suited to syncing and reached the conclusion that !Organizer comes closest but would have meant loosing some data. I also wanted something that would support ical and icard files (so that we can share data with other users). Maybe I should sync with !Organizer just to get something out more quickly. The (sad) truth is that not a lot is likely to happen until the new year. All I can say is - the Palm formats are heavily documented and can already communicate with Risc OS (see !Palmlink). Syncing is also 'easy'. As far as I can tell the Psion/Symbian platform seems to be on the way out - even on mobile phones and the like - so I'm not sure it makes a solid investment to buy one of these (nice as they are). Indeed even Symbian can't decide what they are best at...see some of the more recent articles on www.theregister.com Lots of none OP stuff on this list at the moment - wonder why that is ;-} David Breakwell -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Nov 6 23:48:53 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036626129:10:28332:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:48:53 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036626129:10:28332:66; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:42:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1028319; 6 Nov 2002 23:42 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189Znv-0002IE-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:41:47 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA6NfQx22901 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:41:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6NfPD22898 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:41:26 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 189Zn3-0004rD-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:40:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:39:21 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Lots of none OP stuff on this list at the moment - wonder why that is ;-} Well... something to do with the list no longer being devoted to OP alone? Or perhaps because interest in RISC OS is waning (despite the launch of new machines). Or perhaps because I've not written any new software since 1997 8-( -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Nov 7 01:09:40 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036630140:10:24364:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:09:40 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036630140:10:24364:40; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 00:49:00 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109497; 7 Nov 2002 0:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189aqX-0007bD-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 00:48:33 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA70jmG32667 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:45:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from sri-ltd.co.uk ([209.205.25.139]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70jlt32663 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:45:47 GMT Received: from gatewaysolo [172.181.128.113] by sri-ltd.co.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.12) id A843C4F00B6; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 00:48:03 +0000 Message-ID: <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo> From: "Dennis J Golding" To: References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:42:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hello all, My interest in RISCOS has risen sharply since my Windows machine burped and reverted to an old copy of the registry. I am having to reload every piece of software including all the updates for the last nine months - it's taken us three days so far - the worst part was Office XP. That is something that would NEVER happen under RISCOS. I am now going full strength on OP and TW etc.... on my RISCPC and Virtual A5000 instead of using bloated over complicated M$ software. Bill Gates made the biggest mistake when he allowed anyone to alter the core operating system (via registry and replacing DLL's) and everyone has been paying for that mistake ever since as they are given no option when they buy a new PC. If it is any encouragement David, all new computers that I authorise for my company will be RISCOS machines unless there is software that is only available on an IBM compatible pc. All our current software comes from the US (naturally) but mostly there are no telephone numbers to call and the web sites only give FAQ - loads of drivers but very few answers and no-one to talk to. MS charge 45 per incident. This list shows that things can be very different. And before anyone yells about backup, we have made disaster backups but they are no good if the underlying problem with the registry and DLL's has been a creeping one! Hail RISCOS Dennis Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pilling" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version > >Lots of none OP stuff on this list at the moment - wonder why that is ;-} > > Well... something to do with the list no longer being devoted to OP > alone? > > Or perhaps because interest in RISC OS is waning (despite the launch of > new machines). > > Or perhaps because I've not written any new software since 1997 8-( > > > > -- > David Pilling > email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk > web: http://www.davidpilling.net > post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK > fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > > Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net > -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Nov 7 01:48:58 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036633451:10:26066:71".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:48:58 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036633451:10:26066:71; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:44:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1128275; 7 Nov 2002 1:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 189bRK-0002xe-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:26:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA71SJS02734 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:28:19 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71SIx02731 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:28:19 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 189bST-00046F-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:27:46 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:26:23 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo> In-Reply-To: <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >complicated M$ software. Bill Gates made the biggest mistake when he allowed >anyone to alter the core operating system (via registry and replacing DLL's) So you've got !Boot and it's full of configuration applets, choices files, and installed bits and bobs (modules, fonts etc.). Someone zaps that... Serious point RISC OS has been moving away from the nice and safe modular approach - everything to do with application X lives inside the !X folder, to the Windows model - !Boot a rats nest combining the equivalents of the registry and the Windows folder. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Nov 7 13:12:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036669893:10:13270:411".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:12:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036669893:10:13270:411; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:51:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119592; 7 Nov 2002 11:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189l7I-0007lm-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:46:32 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA7Bit327964 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:44:55 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bijo27944 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:44:45 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gA7BiFG4002087 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:44:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Who are they really from? Message-ID: <4b91a0f0b5ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4b914b6853chris@bulldog.u-net.com> References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> <4b914b6853chris@bulldog.u-net.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b914b6853chris@bulldog.u-net.com>, Chris Johnson wrote: > Well, as you can see from the headers, I am using Pluto, and it > correctly shows the true author (unless the message has been > forwarded to the list by David himself, when it does indeed show > David as the author). I suppose they must have been forwarded ones and I didn't notice, although someone else did email me to say they had noticed the same thing. Maybe two of us aren't paying attention :-) Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Nov 7 13:32:52 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036675652:10:21971:108".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:32:52 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036675652:10:21971:108; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:27:32 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1126227; 7 Nov 2002 13:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189mZy-0008O9-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:20:14 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA7DIZ613280 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:18:35 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DIZf13277 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:18:35 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 189mXp-0007kl-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:18:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:16:50 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version References: <+apbmVXw6Hy9Ewrz@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4b912872baray@raydawson.com> <4b914b6853chris@bulldog.u-net.com> <4b91a0f0b5ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: <4b91a0f0b5ray@raydawson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Ray Dawson In article <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo>, Dennis J Golding wrote: > All our current software comes from the US (naturally) but mostly there > are no telephone numbers to call and the web sites only give FAQ - > loads of drivers but very few answers and no-one to talk to. MS charge > 45 per incident. This list shows that things can be very different. When I have queries regarding Windows I usually subscribe to one of the M$ newsgroups to get it sorted. The groups are very specific to the Windows version and are populated with a lot of very knowledgeable people, including MCPs etc. They take the form , ie for XP, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general There's a list somewhere on the M$ site, so paying 45 quid an incident is not necessary. Answers via the newsgroups are probably quicker and more concise than a phone call ime. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Nov 7 18:32:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036693957:10:12546:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:32:56 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036693957:10:12546:43; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:32:37 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1110851; 7 Nov 2002 18:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189rRM-0006NA-00; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:31:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA7IT7514481 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:29:07 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7IT6O14477 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:29:06 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 189rOJ-0006qp-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:28:31 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:27:20 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version References: <4b8e331c1cdocmart@ukgateway.net> <4b8e3a4241steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b8eb4bbd8steve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> <4b9160177adavidb@argonet.co.uk> <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo> In-Reply-To: <008401c285f7$20ee4e20$1e8021a1@gatewaysolo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Tim Powys-Lybbe > >complicated M$ software. Bill Gates made the biggest mistake when he allowed > >anyone to alter the core operating system (via registry and replacing DLL's) > > So you've got !Boot and it's full of configuration applets, choices > files, and installed bits and bobs (modules, fonts etc.). Someone zaps > that... > > Serious point RISC OS has been moving away from the nice and safe > modular approach - everything to do with application X lives inside the > !X folder, to the Windows model - !Boot a rats nest combining the > equivalents of the registry and the Windows folder. I agree that !Boot is becoming over-complicated - and a Giga-million miles away from the days when I wrote my own !Boot application - and its icon was even one highly polished, national serviceman's boot. But you don't have to use !Boot to design an application, !System apart. Though what you do need is somewhere to store configureation details that is not zapped when a new version is installed. -- Tim Powys-Lybbe tim@powys.org For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 8 00:03:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036713770:20:13032:44".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:03:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036713770:20:13032:44; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:02:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2013083; 8 Nov 2002 0:02 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 189wae-0006ZL-00; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:01:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA7Nxwp27256 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:59:58 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from he101war.uk.vianw.net (he101war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.249.208]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7NxvY27252 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:59:57 GMT Received: from [195.102.205.240] (helo=bulldog.u-net.com) by he101war.uk.vianw.net with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 189wY1-0000H1-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 23:58:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:38:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version Message-ID: <4b91d26672chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.33) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Well Ray Your last post came out as having come from David 8o) However, on looking at the full headers of that message there is the line: : X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Appears that during the forwarding process the sender is changed. Chris... -- Chris Johnson -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 8 01:33:08 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1036718790:10:04370:86".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:33:08 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1036718790:10:04370:86; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 01:26:30 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1102421; 8 Nov 2002 1:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 189xsk-0003vR-00; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 01:24:22 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA81Nx809655 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:23:59 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA81Nxs09652 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:23:59 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 189xrm-0007Qe-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 01:23:22 +0000 Message-ID: <3c+5XAUvGxy9EwKl@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:21:51 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: OP: Windows version References: <4b91d26672chris@bulldog.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: <4b91d26672chris@bulldog.u-net.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Well Ray >Your last post came out as having come from David 8o) I thought that was funny too. Ray's posting was bounced because he used a 'naughty' word in it. One problem faced by a list like this is that people send their admin requests to the list rather than to the admin address. So the software spots admin type words and bounces any messages that contain them. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 17:05:21 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037013919:10:06212:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:21 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037013919:10:06212:66; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:25:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115006; 11 Nov 2002 11:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18BCfV-0005L3-00; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:23:49 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gABBORb16546 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:24:27 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from cmailm1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBOQv16537 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:24:26 GMT Received: from modem-38.blue-mandarin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.237.38] helo=localhost) by cmailm1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18BCfJ-0001W8-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:23:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Jones To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:55:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Thumbnail oddity Message-ID: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.01b12 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have two 'compliment' slip designs, both set up in master pages as 99x210mm, both set to print as Thumbnails - Paper area (1x3) at 100% One of them only ever prints two copies at the top of the paper, the other prints three as desired. Same printer, same OP (2.66) printed seconds apart.... Can anyone explain why this may be happening? Cheers Simon -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 17:05:48 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037039783:20:17652:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:48 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037039783:20:17652:50; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:36:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2119906; 11 Nov 2002 18:36 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18BJNY-0007e1-00; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:33:44 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gABIZvw12303 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:35:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIZvw12298 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:35:57 GMT Received: from talibard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.207.34]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18BJOt-0001hA-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:35:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:21:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Talibard Subject: Re: [softwarelist] right align To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I have often wished to right-align just part of a line of text (obviously, the right-most part) but is I highlight a selection, Ovation seems to ignore and right-align the whole line. Is there any way around this? -- Michael Talibard -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 17:05:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037042336:20:03960:92".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:49 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037042336:20:03960:92; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:18:56 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2102361; 11 Nov 2002 19:18 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18BK2n-0001gp-00; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:16:21 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gABJJA518432 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:19:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from server0027.freedom2surf.net (server0027.freedom2surf.net [194.106.33.36]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJJA618429 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:19:10 GMT Received: from RiscPC ([195.137.41.33]) by server0027.freedom2surf.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-5) with SMTP id gABJIOG3020077 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:18:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:11:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] Re: right align Message-ID: <4b93d9b944ray@raydawson.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.04-pre1 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Michael Talibard wrote: > I have often wished to right-align just part of > a line of text (obviously, the right-most part) > but is I highlight a selection, Ovation seems to > ignore and right-align the whole line. Is there > any way around this? Only by putting a right tab in the right margin. Cheers, Ray D -- ray@raydawson.com http://www.raydawson.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 17:05:55 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037048658:20:20018:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037048658:20:20018:46; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:04:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2019733; 11 Nov 2002 21:03 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18BLgc-0001c5-00; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:01:34 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gABL44x32035 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:04:04 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from host1.kbnet.co.uk (host1.kbnet.net [81.26.107.2]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABL44332032 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:04:04 GMT Received: from kbnet.co.uk (host62-7-161-215.webport.bt.net [62.7.161.215]) by host1.kbnet.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gABL9cZ28530 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:09:38 GMT Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:01:32 GMT From: Mike Williams To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] right align Message-ID: <63d5e3934b.akalat@akalat.kbnet.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Akalat Publishing User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.50a (MsgServe/1.50) (RISC-OS/3.60) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > > I have often wished to right-align just part of > a line of text (obviously, the right-most part) > but is I highlight a selection, Ovation seems to > ignore and right-align the whole line. Is there > any way around this? > I put a right tab at the end of the line and align to that. Mike Williams Akalat Publishing -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 17:05:55 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037051535:20:02036:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:55 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037051535:20:02036:56; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:52:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2121428; 11 Nov 2002 21:51 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18BMSR-00025n-00; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:50:59 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gABLpvR05529 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:51:57 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from kx1-gui.server.which.net (kx1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.11]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABLpuE05526 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:51:56 GMT Received: from dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net ([62.255.44.141]) by kx1-gui.server.which.net (InterMail vK.4.03.02.00 201-232-124 license e70b2acfbd69d84cc925654164bd8fad) with ESMTP id <20021111215100.BAEC1121.kx1-gui@dan-q2amtw6l9qb.which.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:51:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111213853.00b29700@mail.which.net> X-Sender: waddell@mail.which.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:41:27 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: John Waddell Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: right align In-Reply-To: <4b93d9b944ray@raydawson.com> References: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist At 19:11 11.11.02 +0000, Ray Dawson wrote: >In article , > Michael Talibard wrote: > > > I have often wished to right-align just part of > > a line of text (obviously, the right-most part) > > but is I highlight a selection, Ovation seems to > > ignore and right-align the whole line. Is there > > any way around this? > >Only by putting a right tab in the right margin. A basic workaround that I have used in the past - which depends on the context - is to draw an additional small text box, which is right aligned, and simply to pop the relevant text into it. An extra carriage return might be needed to keep the main body of text on the straight and narrow. John W. -- John Waddell, Langbank, Renfrewshire -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 18:14:29 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037124603:10:07658:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:14:29 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037124603:10:07658:61; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:10:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1007862; 12 Nov 2002 18:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18BfSm-0001Un-00; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:36 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gACI9KX21648 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:09:20 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACI9Jh21644 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:09:19 GMT Received: from [62.188.120.43] (helo=62.188.120.43) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18BfSa-0001qW-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "charles.hope" To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:58:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [softwarelist] right align Message-ID: <4b93ee8bbfcharles.hope@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , Michael Talibard wrote: > I have often wished to right-align just part of > a line of text (obviously, the right-most part) > but is I highlight a selection, Ovation seems to > ignore and right-align the whole line. Is there > any way around this? Yes, set a right TAB. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 22:14:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037138867:10:28918:88".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:14:32 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037138867:10:28918:88; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:07:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119586; 12 Nov 2002 22:07 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18Bj8G-0005Qx-00; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:03:40 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gACM6Lo21690 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:06:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACM6Lm21686 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:06:21 GMT Received: from talibard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.207.34]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18Bj9z-0000OA-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:05:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:44:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Talibard Subject: [softwarelist] Re: right align To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4b93d9b944ray@raydawson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Mon 11 Nov, Ray Dawson wrote: > Only by putting a right tab in the right margin. > > Cheers, > > Ray D > Thanks! Now why couldn't I thnk of that? -- Michael Talibard -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 12 22:24:35 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037139754:10:21433:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:24:35 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037139754:10:21433:49; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1123873; 12 Nov 2002 22:21 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18BjNN-0006U8-00; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:19:17 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gACMMOf23422 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:24 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.80]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMMOW23419 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:24 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18BjPW-0004zE-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:21:30 +0000 Message-ID: <7N5qjBLo6X09Ewa$@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:20:24 +0000 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] OP Thumbnail oddity References: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b93a6d547simon.jones@capelinmedia.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I have two 'compliment' slip designs, both set up in master pages as >99x210mm, both set to print as Thumbnails - Paper area (1x3) at 100% no idea why results should be different, probably because the initial conditions are different. I know the menu is indicating it is going to print 1x3 but when it comes to actual printing the calculations are done again and more accurately. OTOH it could be there is something about the contents which stops the third copy being printed. >Same printer, same OP (2.66) printed seconds apart.... What's wrong with 2.67? -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Nov 15 01:12:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037322601:10:26782:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:12:54 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037322601:10:26782:47; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:10:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1124483; 15 Nov 2002 1:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18CUuG-0001mA-00; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:04:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAF15s814405 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:05:54 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF15r114401 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:05:53 GMT Received: from [62.188.145.22] (helo=ghc) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18CUve-0000XA-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:05:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:04:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: NudgePal - Version 1.06 now available Message-ID: <4b958596b0gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist The latest release of my NudgePal applet (version 1.06) can now be downloaded from its usual home: http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html This new version hasn't changed much since the last - the noticeable differences are: The manual is now stored inside the applet and can be displayed easily from an entry on the NudgePal menu. The manual document has now been re-created in version 2.60 of Ovation Pro. This allows any version of Ovation Pro from the CD upgrade or later to read the NudgePal manual. The manual in the last few NudgePal releases had inadvertently been edited with a later version of Ovation Pro making it impossible for those with older versions to read it. Please note that NudgePal requires Ovation Pro 2.61 or later (but we are all using 2.67, aren't we?) The buttonbar button's sprites have been extended to further reflect the state of object resizing - it now changes to indicate which resizing edges are active. An Applet info window has been added to NudgePal's menu, showing the version number etc. The info window also has links to my website and email address. [short NudgePal description] The NudgePal applet allows objects to be moved or resized, by use of arrow buttons on a palette window. Gav. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 19 17:07:59 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037610694:10:04717:82".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:07:59 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037610694:10:04717:82; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:11:34 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1003622; 18 Nov 2002 9:09 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18DhqO-0007Wp-00; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:05:24 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAI97cu19617 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:07:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from post-21.mail.nl.demon.net (post-21.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAI97bj19613 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:07:37 GMT Received: from [212.238.2.84] (helo=waarland.demon.nl) by post-21.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18DhsW-000MMo-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:07:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:08:42 +0100 (GMT) From: Johan Heuseveldt Subject: [softwarelist] double sided printing To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-No-Markup: yes X-No-Archive: yes X-Organization: Waarland & Echteweide (Realfieldt), the Netherlands X-Url: X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Platform: RISC OS (Reduced Instruction Set Computer Operating System) X-Platform2: now running RISC OS 4 Select [4.29] X-System: Acorn RiscPC 600 X-Processor: ARM 710 on my second RiscPC (RPC2) X-Wishes: RISCOS Ltd succeeding in the continues development of RISC OS X-Bar: ------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi all, My new printer is able to print double sided directly. But I can't find the way in OPro to set this up. Do I miss something? TIA greetings from the Netherlands, Johan -- Johan Heuseveldt aka waarland The best place is a Riscy place The faster the plane, the narrower the seats. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 19 17:08:05 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037619859:10:19582:559".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:08:05 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037619859:10:19582:559; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:44:19 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ai1125995; 18 Nov 2002 11:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 18DjVd-0004UY-00; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:52:05 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAIAtAf16593 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:55:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk (gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk [132.185.240.17]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAIAt9N16570 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:55:09 GMT Received: from w1bhxi02.radio.bbc.co.uk (w1bhxi02.radio.bbc.co.uk [10.48.8.92]) by gateh.thls.bbc.co.uk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id gAIAxPR10943 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:59:26 GMT Received: from w1bhxi01.radio.bbc.co.uk (unverified) by w1bhxi02.radio.bbc.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:55:03 +0000 Received: by w1bhxi01.radio.bbc.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:55:03 -0000 Message-ID: <21B2A2008F16D2118E7A00805F8BF7EC0225F36E@w12wnxu01.wn.bbc.co.uk> From: Michael Hunter To: "'softwarelist@davidpilling.net'" Subject: RE: [softwarelist] double sided printing Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:55:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > Johan Heuseveldt wrote > >Hi all, > >My new printer is able to print double sided directly. But I can't find >the way in OPro to set this up. Do I miss something? I was in the same situation a couple of months ago - and there are contributions from David and Gavin Crawford which could help you. Michael Hunter BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message Mailing list provided and hosted by www.spellings.net From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Nov 19 17:08:15 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1037668226:10:23356:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:08:15 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1037668226:10:23356:53; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:10:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1023009; 19 Nov 2002 1:10 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18Dwt9-0001V6-00; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:09:15 +0000 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAJ18xB15934 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:08:59 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAJ18wk15928 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:08:59 GMT Received: from [62.188.130.148] (helo=ghc) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #2) id 18Dwsq-00020l-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:08:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:05:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [softwarelist] OP: NudgePal - Version 1.06 **CORRECTION** Message-ID: <4b979500cegav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-T