From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 18:49:53 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031075038:20:05444:55".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:49:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031075038:20:05444:55; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:43:58 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005269; 3 Sep 2002 17:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mHi3-0005gC-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:43:27 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83HfnH28343 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:41:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83HfZD28333 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:41:36 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mHgE-0005bU-0X for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:41:34 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:40:31 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Ticking menu items MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: Kipppers This has probably been asked several times before but I cannot seem to find the answer anywhere. Is there any way of getting the tick on menu items instead of the Euro symbol as I find it very irritating.I am using version 2.67 which I believe is the latest one. I would really appreciate the help. -- ____ _ _____ | _ \(_)/ ___) | |_) | | / | __// | \___ |_|(___/ \_____) Paul Cakebread E-mail kippers@ntlworld.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 20:04:57 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031079064:10:13589:104".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:04:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031079064:10:13589:104; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:51:04 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1013688; 3 Sep 2002 18:50 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mIlD-0001Rh-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:50:47 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83Imj804396 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:48:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83ImXU04376 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:48:33 +0100 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:48:11 +0100 Received: from riscpc.workgroup (unverified [62.30.76.220]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:48:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tony Cropper To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:48:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ticking menu items Message-ID: <4b704ef516tony@cropp.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist > >From: Kipppers > This has probably been asked several times before but I cannot seem to > find the answer anywhere. Is there any way of getting the tick on menu > items instead of the Euro symbol as I find it very irritating.I am using > version 2.67 which I believe is the latest one. > I would really appreciate the help. This is certainly a listed problem with ArtWorks and Risc OS 4 but the problem was that CC used the wrong(!!) character (char 128) which, in Risc OS 4+ became the euro symbol. This was fixed by Martin Wuerthner and is listed on his web site. I assume, without you explicitly stating it, that you have this problem with Ovation Pro 2.67? Under what circumstances? Certainly here it doesn't occur with 2.67. -- tony cropper bristol uk Email: tony@cropp.demon.co.uk Web: http://www.cropp.demon.co.uk/ BARUG: http://www.barug.co.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 20:05:03 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031079871:20:28213:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:05:03 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031079871:20:28213:46; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:04:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2027606; 3 Sep 2002 19:04 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mIy5-0002YW-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:04:05 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83J3EG06225 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:03:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83J32f06197 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:03:03 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mIx3-00056B-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:03:01 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:02:01 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Ticking menu items References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >This has probably been asked several times before but I cannot seem to >find the answer anywhere. Is there any way of getting the tick on menu >items instead of the Euro symbol as I find it very irritating.I am >using version 2.67 which I believe is the latest one. In which context? ISTR there being a lot of trouble over this, but I thought it had been fixed. If its in an applet, then that may need updating. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 21:34:55 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031084717:10:24273:201".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:34:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031084717:10:24273:201; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:25:17 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002274; 3 Sep 2002 20:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mKER-0007Wz-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:25:03 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83JXQZ09786 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:33:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83JXES09754 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:33:15 +0100 Received: from ypical.demon.co.uk ([158.152.78.65]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mJQH-0005dc-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:33:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:18:20 +0100 From: Fred Bambrough To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] softwarelist Message-ID: X-Organization: @ypical User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Can I confirm the following? This list replaces the Ovation Pro one and covers David's software in general. The address to post to is softwarelist@davidpilling.net The reason I ask is because I've received a welcome to the list message which gives admin details and specifies Ovation but no posting addy and 2 postings to the list apparently in mid conversation. Just want to check before updating my newsreader. -- Fred -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 21:49:59 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031085986:20:08284:54".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:49:59 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031085986:20:08284:54; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:46:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2007554; 3 Sep 2002 20:45 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mKYK-0000Vq-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:45:36 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83Kiic18961 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:44:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83KiYQ18941 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:44:35 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mKXI-000HBh-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:43:18 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] softwarelist References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Can I confirm the following? >This list replaces the Ovation Pro one and covers David's software in >general. Yes. >The address to post to is softwarelist@davidpilling.net Yes. >The reason I ask is because I've received a welcome to the list message >which gives admin details and specifies Ovation but no posting addy and 2 >postings to the list apparently in mid conversation. Just teething problems. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Tue Sep 3 23:50:04 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031093020:10:27762:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:50:04 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031093020:10:27762:42; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 22:43:40 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1027318; 3 Sep 2002 22:43 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mMNk-0000Ha-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 23:42:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g83MfMM32066 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:41:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from roma.localnet (foobar@pD90073B0.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.115.176]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g83MfCl32057 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:41:12 +0100 Received: from veni.localnet ([192.168.0.104] helo=veni) by roma.localnet with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17mMM6-0000ZY-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 00:41:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 00:41:41 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: softwarelist Message-ID: <4b706452b2sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > >Can I confirm the following? > >This list replaces the Ovation Pro one and covers David's software in > >general. > Yes. What about davidpilling@lists.barnet.ac.uk? I just found it in my records. Is this dead as well? -- Stefan Bellon * * PGP 2 and OpenPGP keys available from my home page Waughning : Spel chekur knot wurking at phull kapacity -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 01:35:12 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031099303:10:04196:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:35:12 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031099303:10:04196:85; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 00:28:23 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1004971; 4 Sep 2002 0:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mO1j-0003Nk-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 01:28:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g840PsH06360 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:25:54 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g840PfB06351 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:25:42 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mNzI-000JLi-0Y for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 01:25:40 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 01:24:15 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Re: softwarelist References: <4b706452b2sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <4b706452b2sbellon@sbellon.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >What about davidpilling@lists.barnet.ac.uk? I just found it in my >records. Is this dead as well? Yes, that is terminated too. For the time being the new address for that list is dplist@pilling.demon.co.uk There is some info on my web site about these lists. However that too isn't perfected yet. The software list info is under the OP mail list. It seems about 5 people's ISP's are rejecting mail from this (new) list on the grounds it is spam... If you're reading this, yours isn't one of them 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 02:50:02 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031103674:10:06686:47".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:50:02 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031103674:10:06686:47; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 01:41:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1113636; 4 Sep 2002 1:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mPAC-0002di-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 02:41:00 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g841dPW10475 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:39:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g841dBx10470 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:39:12 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mP8Q-0000nR-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 02:39:11 +0100 Message-ID: <5eUDK3OmPWd9EwiE@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 02:37:42 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: [softwarelist] Non-printing colour References: <4b706452b2sbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >I think I've come across an inconsistency regarding non-printing colours. >They do work with text, but don't work with underlines. That is, when I define >underlines in a non-printing red, for example, they do occur both on screen >(in red - which is correct) and on paper (in black! - which seems to be a >double fault). Jumping back to Paul Sprangers message to the old OvationPro list (above)... I think the problem is that there is a special rule for underline, if the colour is transparent then it is taken as the same as the text colour. Alas in the coding 'non-printing' looks the same as 'transparent'. I can see that underlines would be useful to have as non-printing. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 14:46:34 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031125518:20:16422:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:46:34 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031125518:20:16422:46; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 07:45:18 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2016062; 4 Sep 2002 7:44 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mUqH-0002Mz-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:44:49 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g847hXp32248 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:43:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.225]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g847hGG32219 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:43:17 +0100 Received: from martin.lexicon (unknown [212.104.153.188]) by pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 03FD04FAFC for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:46:02 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Martin Longley To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:42:41 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist An aquaintance of mine has sent as email saying that his version of OVPro doesn't work anymore - needs to be re-installed. It's a version from the Beebug days and as he's had a new hard disc recently I suspect the copy protection has caused the problem. Only thing is, I can't remember how the copy protection worked and therefore can't advise him on best course of action. I can remember my phone number from 45 years ago though :-) Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required information. Thanks Martin Longley -- mlongley@eclipse.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 14:46:38 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031138851:20:29074:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:46:38 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031138851:20:29074:53; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:27:31 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2028035; 4 Sep 2002 11:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mYI7-00005Y-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:25:47 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g849Wfp15839 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:32:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g849WTu15773 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:32:30 +0100 Received: from retreat.demon.co.uk ([158.152.123.49] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mWWR-0006UF-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:32:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:34:06 +0100 From: Malcolm Cowell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Am I right in thinking that Arc Fax will not work via the Barricade router supplied by R Comp in their Network In Box. I use the router to dialup via an external USR modem. If I am wrong can someone point me to advice on how to get ArcFax working please? -- Malcolm Cowell IEng MIEIE Fax: 0870 0548876 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:23 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160410:20:22586:52".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:23 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160410:20:22586:52; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:26:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2101897; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvA-0005Sz-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:28 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84Bu9O06499 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:56:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84Btwk06464 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:55:58 +0100 Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mYlJ-000P0n-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:55:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:03:06 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b70a2b55fjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 04 Sep, Martin Longley wrote: [about OvPro] > Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required > information. I would strongly recommend upgrading - the current version is on CD with no nasty protection system. In any case contacting David Pilling would be a good start. -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Fleur Designs (boardgames) http://www.cartmell.demon.co.uk Acorn Publisher magazine http://www.acornpublisher.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160410:20:22573:43".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160410:20:22573:43; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:26:50 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2022560; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvG-0005Sz-01; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:34 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84EZYp02023 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:35:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84EZNf02000 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:35:24 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mbFa-0007Mh-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:35:22 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:33:59 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box References: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >From: "F.R. Polak" In message dated 4 Sep 2002 Malcolm Cowell wrote: > > Am I right in thinking that Arc Fax will not work via the Barricade > router supplied by R Comp in their Network In Box. I use the router to > dialup via an external USR modem. Yes, you are right. The SMC Baricade router (I have one too) will only dial an ISP and then set up an PPP connection for you so you can access the internet. Ofcourse it also rules your home network and acts as a print server. But fax is a totally other kettle of fish. Also the FAQ on the SMC website tells you that faxing is not possible through the Barricade. > If I am wrong can someone point me to advice on how to get ArcFax > working please? > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of your RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... Or buy a second modem for this. Cheers, Frits -- Frits R. Polak National Aerospace Laboratory (NLR), Amsterdam Airports Department phone : +31-(0)20-5113543; fax: +31-(0)20-5113210 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:24 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160417:20:22601:64".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:24 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160417:20:22601:64; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:26:57 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101896; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvB-0005Sz-01; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:29 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84D9R619212 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:09:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84D9Hd19181 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:09:17 +0100 Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mZu7-000BWt-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:09:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:59:08 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4b70b2d2f6john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> References: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 04 Sep, Malcolm Cowell wrote: > Am I right in thinking that Arc Fax will not work via the Barricade > router supplied by R Comp in their Network In Box. I use the router to > dialup via an external USR modem. > If I am wrong can someone point me to advice on how to get ArcFax > working please? And while that's being discussed: what setting do I need for ArcFax to work with a Robotics Sportster Flash modem? -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Fleur Designs (boardgames) http://www.cartmell.demon.co.uk Acorn Publisher magazine http://www.acornpublisher.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:25 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160421:20:22586:108".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160421:20:22586:108; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:27:01 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101938; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvI-0005Sz-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:36 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84C2ce07707 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:02:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84C2RI07668 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:02:28 +0100 Received: from Rpc ([80.7.0.9]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020904120226.FTTM290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@Rpc> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:02:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:02:19 +0100 From: John Sandford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <5d9fad704b.jms@ntlworld.com> References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> Martin Longley wrote: > An aquaintance of mine has sent as email saying that his version of OVPro > doesn't work anymore - needs to be re-installed. It's a version from the > Beebug days and as he's had a new hard disc recently I suspect the copy > protection has caused the problem. > > Only thing is, I can't remember how the copy protection worked and therefore > can't advise him on best course of action. > I can remember my phone number from 45 years ago though :-) > > Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required information. > > Thanks > > Martin Longley > > -- > mlongley@eclipse.co.uk > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message > You need to run the installer from the floppy disc then drag the copy on the hard disc to the installer window, thats all ! -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead Risc OS User Group www.hhrug.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:25 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160422:20:22523:89".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160422:20:22523:89; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:27:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101898; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvD-0005Sz-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84EXWG01602 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:33:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84EXN101563 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:33:24 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mbDe-0006QN-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:33:22 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:31:57 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >An aquaintance of mine has sent as email saying that his version of OVPro >doesn't work anymore - needs to be re-installed. It's a version from the >Beebug days and as he's had a new hard disc recently I suspect the copy >protection has caused the problem. Just reinstall from floppy, as if you're installing for the first time. The Beebug installer puts up some irrelevant message like "drag program from release discs here". It wasn't ever implemented. However reinstalling from floppy will put him back to version 2.52 (or earlier). He then needs the patches. Sounds like buying the CD upgrade would be the easiest thing to me 8-) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 18:31:31 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031160409:10:12105:42".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:31:31 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031160409:10:12105:42; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 17:26:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104302; 4 Sep 2002 17:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mdvF-0005Sz-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 18:26:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84EITL31434 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:18:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84EIGu31407 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:18:17 +0100 Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:17:41 +0100 Received: from acorn (unverified [80.195.42.238]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:17:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael Drake To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:17:36 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] New User Message-ID: <4b70ba023amike@smoothartist.com> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04a (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi... I have only recently started using Ovation Pro and there are a few things I am unsure of. These are: PCA I use !Compo a lot and I have also started to use !Variations quite a bit. How do I make these programs get "seen" by Ovation Pro so that I can use them as PCA plugins? Equation Editor I often have to write reports that require me to show equations but I am unsure of what the best way of creating them is. Is there a facility for creating them in Ovation Pro or is there a recommended 3rd party piece of software that could do the job? Start Up Banner When I start Ovation Pro I get a window that comes up saying that I bought Ovation Pro from APDL. Is there any way to change that to my name and address or do I need to send of the registration form first? I am using version 2.67, BTW. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, Mike -- Michael Drake - (TLSA) Check my website at: www.smoothartist.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 20:31:25 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031167511:20:02518:148".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:31:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031167511:20:02518:148; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:25:11 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003422; 4 Sep 2002 19:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mflp-0005LN-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:24:57 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84Intp08155 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:49:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84InlF08126 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:49:47 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mfDm-0004g2-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:49:46 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:48:37 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] New User References: <4b70ba023amike@smoothartist.com> In-Reply-To: <4b70ba023amike@smoothartist.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >PCA >I use !Compo a lot and I have also started to use !Variations quite a bit. >How do I make these programs get "seen" by Ovation Pro so that I can use >them as PCA plugins? Start by installing the PCA applet... whether that provides full functionality with Compo etc. I don't know. >Equation Editor OP doesn't have any special facilities. So you're left with the usual Acorn choices, the programs that came with Impression - Equasor/Formulix. Or compose the equations in Techwriter and export as Draw files. Anyway you end up with a Draw file which can be embedded in the text flow in OP. >Start Up Banner >When I start Ovation Pro I get a window that comes up saying that I bought >Ovation Pro from APDL. Is there any way to change that to my name and >address or do I need to send of the registration form first? You can't change it. If you send in your registration details and remind me I can email you a new RegData file. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 20:31:25 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031167535:20:03947:45".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:31:25 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031167535:20:03947:45; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:25:35 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2106449; 4 Sep 2002 19:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mfln-0005LN-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:24:55 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84Iqeu08661 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:52:40 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84IqTK08640 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:52:29 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mfGO-0004wn-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:52:28 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:50:58 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box References: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> <4b70b2d2f6john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b70b2d2f6john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >what setting do I need for ArcFax to work with a Robotics Sportster Flash >modem? Setting? what setting? USR modems usually can be driven in Class 2.0 or Class 1, that gives you a choice of the Class20V driver, or a Class 1 driver. It used to be there was a special Class 1 driver for the USR modems - called USR1V, however these days you can probably use the latest Class 1 code - Class1VA (on my web site) with them. The only other setting is that USR don't support 2D compression in Class 2.0 mode, so if you use that driver you've got to configure 2D off. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 20:31:29 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031167567:10:29202:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:31:29 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031167567:10:29202:49; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:26:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1101697; 4 Sep 2002 19:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mflq-0005LN-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:24:58 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84Ib9e06425 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:37:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84Iaxd06392 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:36:59 +0100 Received: from fergusn.demon.co.uk ([62.49.16.238] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mf1O-0003c0-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:36:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:17:58 +0100 From: John Ferguson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap 1.44 (01 Aug 2002) Snapshot-9, ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.68a User-Agent: POPstar/2.03 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article F.R. Polak apparently wrote: > In message dated 4 Sep 2002 > Malcolm Cowell wrote: > > > Am I right in thinking that Arc Fax will not work via the Barricade > > router supplied by R Comp in their Network In Box. I use the router > > to dialup via an external USR modem. > > Yes, you are right. The SMC Baricade router (I have one too) will only > dial an ISP and then set up an PPP connection for you so you can access > the internet. Ofcourse it also rules your home network and acts as a > print server. But fax is a totally other kettle of fish. Also the FAQ on > the SMC website tells you that faxing is not possible through the > Barricade. > > > If I am wrong can someone point me to advice on how to get ArcFax > > working please? > > > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of your > RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... > Or buy a second modem for this. Or, as I have, a serial switch box. John -- John Ferguson Taunton, Somerset, England mailto:john@fergusn.demon.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 21:31:26 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031171055:20:19321:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:31:26 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031171055:20:19321:48; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:24:15 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2018748; 4 Sep 2002 20:23 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mggW-0001on-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:23:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84KMkf21944 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:22:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.225]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84KMUA21928 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:22:30 +0100 Received: from martin.lexicon (unknown [212.104.153.22]) by pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 490A44FD42 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:25:17 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Martin Longley To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:08:54 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b70da2bf0mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , David Pilling wrote: > >An aquaintance of mine has sent as email saying that his version of OVPro > >doesn't work anymore - needs to be re-installed. It's a version from the > >Beebug days and as he's had a new hard disc recently I suspect the copy > >protection has caused the problem. > Just reinstall from floppy, as if you're installing for the first time. > The Beebug installer puts up some irrelevant message like "drag program > from release discs here". It wasn't ever implemented. > However reinstalling from floppy will put him back to version 2.52 (or > earlier). He then needs the patches. > Sounds like buying the CD upgrade would be the easiest thing to me 8-) I agree bit I'll have to persuade him to part with the pennies. Martin Longley -- mlongley@eclipse.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Wed Sep 4 21:31:27 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031171079:10:01105:85".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:31:27 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031171079:10:01105:85; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 20:24:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1001154; 4 Sep 2002 20:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mghT-0001xX-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:24:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84K1X218034 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:01:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84K1PR18013 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:01:25 +0100 Received: from retreat.demon.co.uk ([158.152.123.49] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17mgL4-00015Q-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:01:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:01:45 +0100 From: Malcolm Cowell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <1084d9704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> References: <8b0da0704b.malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message you wrote: > > >From: "F.R. Polak" > > In message dated 4 Sep 2002 > Malcolm Cowell wrote: > > > > > Am I right in thinking that Arc Fax will not work via the Barricade > > router supplied by R Comp in their Network In Box. > > Yes, you are right. The SMC Baricade router (I have one too) will only > dial an ISP and then set up an PPP connection for you so you can access > the internet. Ofcourse it also rules your home network and acts as a > print server. But fax is a totally other kettle of fish. > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of your > RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... > Or buy a second modem for this. > Many thanks for this and other advice. It clears up what I thought and I can interchange with a spare serial lead. -- Malcolm Cowell -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 02:31:32 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031189169:20:15671:56".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 02:31:32 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031189169:20:15671:56; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:26:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2015891; 5 Sep 2002 1:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mlOx-0005pQ-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 02:25:43 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g84KfT923756 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:41:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g84KfGG23733 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:41:17 +0100 Received: from [213.116.58.173] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mgxZ-0000IC-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:41:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:13:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b70da94cbsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 04 Sep, Martin Longley wrote: > Only thing is, I can't remember how the copy protection worked and > therefore can't advise him on best course of action. I can remember my > phone number from 45 years ago though :-) > Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required > information. One specific byte in one file gave the number of licences IIRC. As I recall it didn't take much effort to modify. Of course, since David is a splendid fellow, a simple spot of cash and the original disc as proof will probably cause a nice new CD to wing it's way to your friend. -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 13:27:57 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031192692:10:18514:46".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:27:57 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031192692:10:18514:46; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 02:24:52 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1018349; 5 Sep 2002 2:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17mmJo-0001iW-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 03:24:28 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g851lIQ12965 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 02:47:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g851lAM12962 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 02:47:11 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17mljh-0004pC-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 02:47:09 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 02:46:01 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> <4b70da94cbsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b70da94cbsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >One specific byte in one file gave the number of licences IIRC. Good grief, it's all coming out now. I believe that Beebug never used the option to limit the number of installs - too likely to cause upset. >Of course, since David is a splendid fellow, a simple spot of cash and the >original disc as proof will probably cause a nice new CD to wing it's way >to your friend. I don't want the original disc. Just give me the money (err as I believe some people say). Seriously upgrade info is on my web site. Bottom line, there's no need to buy the CD. Just install from floppy and all will be well. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 14:27:50 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031232408:10:24661:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:27:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031232408:10:24661:57; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:26:48 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1024097; 5 Sep 2002 13:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mweB-0003kh-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:26:11 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8589N402525 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:09:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8589IQ02497 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:09:18 +0100 Received: from [62.188.151.127] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mrhT-00026h-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:09:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:06:31 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b70df722dsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 04 Sep, Martin Longley wrote: > Only thing is, I can't remember how the copy protection worked and > therefore can't advise him on best course of action. I can remember my > phone number from 45 years ago though :-) > Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required > information. Of course having misrembered things I posted irrelevant info. Now which was the s/w with the copy protection that counted licences... -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 15:42:45 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031236146:10:18922:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:42:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031236146:10:18922:60; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:29:06 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018602; 5 Sep 2002 14:28 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17mxZN-00009M-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:25:17 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g856t0G27665 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:55:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g856sra27655 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:54:54 +0100 Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.51.138]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H1YDVA00.SJ7 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:54:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 08:54:43 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] !SparkFS Message-ID: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Dear all, A question about !SparkFS: To save space (and to speed up the backing up process) I've sparked a lot of applications. The problem now is that all of these applications are not recognised in the boot process. For example, the sparked !Twain is looked at and run from the boot, but when I want to scan, an error box says that !Twain has not been seen by the filer. What can I do about that? !SparkFS itself is on top op the boot sequence. A second question about !SparkFS: I've found !SparkFS not always very reliable. At least four or five times in the past year, a large archive got corrupted when I tried to add something to it, or when an application within that archive changed something to the default settings. Is this just me, or does this sound familiar to others too? Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 16:42:46 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031240339:20:09615:132".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:42:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031240339:20:09615:132; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:38:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ad2101475; 5 Sep 2002 15:38 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17myVZ-0005SK-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:25:25 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85F5aM19523 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:05:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85F5Up19491 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:05:31 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17myCI-0002va-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:05:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:02:39 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] admin: suggestion Message-ID: <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist As the list covers all of DP's products can everyone start putting the product in question at the start of the subject line? I'd suggest we have values like: admin: like this email, covering general list-admin issues OP: ovation pro (I think typing out "ovation pro:" will# waste too much of the space in a mail's subject line) ArcFax: question, or maybe AF: question? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 16:42:46 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031239683:20:25840:120".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:42:46 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031239683:20:25840:120; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:28:03 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id ab2026584; 5 Sep 2002 15:27 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17myVf-0005SK-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:25:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85F5lD19561 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:05:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85F5UT19479 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:05:30 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17myCG-0002va-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:05:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:00:48 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> References: <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, John Ferguson wrote: > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of your > > RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... Or buy a second modem for > > this. > Or, as I have, a serial switch box. No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 18:27:45 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031246793:20:05502:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:27:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031246793:20:05502:40; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 17:26:33 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003935; 5 Sep 2002 17:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n0Ni-0003XB-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:25:26 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85H9c515802 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:09:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85H9S715781 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:09:29 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17n08F-0004Lw-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:09:27 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:08:17 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box References: <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the >Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. > Speculation, but do RComp supply a 'block driver' that allows modem programs to talk to the modem via the network. If so you'll be able to use ArcFax via it. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 18:27:50 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031246772:10:26544:67".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:27:50 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031246772:10:26544:67; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 17:26:12 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111552; 5 Sep 2002 17:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n0Nn-0003XB-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:25:31 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85H8Ia15604 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:08:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85H87g15577 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:08:07 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17n06w-0003vO-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:08:06 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:06:51 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !SparkFS References: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist Hi, >To save space (and to speed up the backing up process) I've sparked a lot >of applications. The problem now is that all of these applications are not >recognised in the boot process. For example, the sparked !Twain is looked >at and run from the boot, but when I want to scan, an error box says that >!Twain has not been seen by the filer. What can I do about that? >!SparkFS itself is on top op the boot sequence. It clearly depends on SparkFS being initialised and loaded before RISC OS initialises things like !TWAIN. I suppose one technique would be to run SparkFS from the desktop boot file and then later in the desktop boot file, Filer_Boot !TWAIN. That gets the ordering right. You will have to run SparkFS, as opposed to just booting it before archives can be accessed. >I've found !SparkFS not always very reliable. At least four or five times >in the past year, a large archive got corrupted when I tried to add >something to it, or when an application within that archive changed >something to the default settings. >Is this just me, or does this sound familiar to others too? What sort of archive? which version of SparkFS? Corruption certainly does happen. Bugs get fixed though. And sometimes the bug won't be in SparkFS. It's a bit of a problem, ever since Spark came out (1989) there have been rumbles about "corruption in large archives" but rarely can anyone provide an example. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 18:57:51 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031248142:20:15385:48".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:57:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031248142:20:15385:48; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 17:49:02 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2013520; 5 Sep 2002 17:48 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17n0jL-0002Pj-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:47:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85Hl2X20704 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:47:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from imailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (imailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.180]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85HkmB20684 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:46:49 +0100 Received: from modem-98.thallium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.60.98] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by imailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17n0iL-00069c-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:46:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:28:48 +0100 (BST) From: "John P. Kerslake" Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net In-Reply-To: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: JPK, Bangor.Pager 07626-235878 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On Wed 04 Sep, Martin Longley wrote: > > An aquaintance of mine has sent as email saying that his version of OVPro > doesn't work anymore - needs to be re-installed. It's a version from the > Beebug days and as he's had a new hard disc recently I suspect the copy > protection has caused the problem. > > Only thing is, I can't remember how the copy protection worked and therefore > can't advise him on best course of action. > I can remember my phone number from 45 years ago though :-) > > Can someone drag from the corners of their brain the required information. > > Thanks > > Martin Longley > Woud this not be a goon time to upgrade to the latest version? -- J.P. Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. Dyslexia Rules KO. Pager 07626 - 235878, e-mail Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk, 21 Glantraeth, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1HQ. "phone" 01248 - 353264 RiscStation 64 meg 50 ns RAM. 9G HD, Ant INS. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 19:27:45 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031249589:20:26619:58".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:27:45 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031249589:20:26619:58; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:13:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025950; 5 Sep 2002 18:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n177-0001RH-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:12:21 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85IB5K23968 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:11:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85IAtS23941 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:10:55 +0100 Received: from fergusn.demon.co.uk ([62.49.16.238] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17n15i-0000L0-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:10:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:00:35 +0100 From: John Ferguson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4B71524288%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap 1.44 (01 Aug 2002) Snapshot-9, ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.68a User-Agent: POPstar/2.03 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > In article <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, > John Ferguson wrote: > > > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of your > > > RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... Or buy a second modem for > > > this. > > > Or, as I have, a serial switch box. > > No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the > Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. I maybe missing something obvious, but dial-up and fax can't be used at the same time and the modem plugs into the router's com port. How does that preclude the use of a switch box? John -- John Ferguson Taunton, Somerset, England mailto:john@fergusn.demon.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 19:42:48 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031250746:20:27396:103".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:42:48 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031250746:20:27396:103; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 18:32:26 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2027569; 5 Sep 2002 18:32 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n1Q9-00038i-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:32:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85IUvx26643 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:30:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (murphys.services.quay.plus.net [212.159.14.225]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g85IUlN26620 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:30:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 29026 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2002 18:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO barry) (212.159.102.184) by murphy.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 18:30:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Barry E Allen To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:30:11 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b7154f825barry@e-allen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article , John P. Kerslake wrote: > Woud this not be a goon time to upgrade to the latest version? Not now Neddie! -- Barry A. Broughton Park F.C. (Rugby Union) http://www.broughton-park.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 20:12:49 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031252989:20:27121:57".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:12:49 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031252989:20:27121:57; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:09:49 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2026140; 5 Sep 2002 19:08 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17n1zh-0006DJ-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:08:46 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85J7uC31506 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:07:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85J7jB31485 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:07:46 +0100 Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17n1yh-0006jD-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:07:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:48:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4b7156a895Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B71524288%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> References: <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> <4B71524288%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4B71524288%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, John Ferguson wrote: > In article <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> > Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > > In article <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, > > John Ferguson wrote: > > > > > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of > > > > your RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... Or buy a second > > > > modem for this. > > > > > Or, as I have, a serial switch box. > > > > No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the > > Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. > I maybe missing something obvious, but dial-up and fax can't be used at > the same time and the modem plugs into the router's com port. How does > that preclude the use of a switch box? Maybe it doesn't - but I thought you meant switching the riscpc serial port between the modem and something else? What did you mean? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 22:27:51 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031261116:10:05709:61".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:27:51 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031261116:10:05709:61; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 21:25:16 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ac1005545; 5 Sep 2002 21:24 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n47I-0001zM-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:24:44 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85KVD409578 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:31:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp.argonet.co.uk (centipede.freedom2.net [213.161.67.201]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85KV3B09542 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:31:04 +0100 Received: from [62.188.154.84] (helo=RiscPC) by smtp.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17n3HI-0002OI-00 for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 21:31:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:56:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [softwarelist] Please help me remember Message-ID: <4b715ce5eesteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <4b7095da64mlongley@eclipse.co.uk> <4b70da94cbsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.03 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist On 05 Sep, David Pilling wrote: > Good grief, it's all coming out now. I believe that Beebug never used > the option to limit the number of installs - too likely to cause upset. Ah. So I wasn't misremembering then. I thought from other comments that I was confusing it with another item I had, er, "altered" I should of course point out that I do not and will not condone piracy ( I just don't like having my backups limited) And to re-enforce the message: David is a nice fellow and giving him money for the latest version of OvPro is the best money you will spend this decade. -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 22:27:53 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031261234:20:16072:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:27:53 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031261234:20:16072:40; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 21:27:14 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2014956; 5 Sep 2002 21:26 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n48l-00022H-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:26:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85LPPn14337 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:25:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85LPCx14325 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:25:13 +0100 Received: from fergusn.demon.co.uk ([62.49.16.238] helo=riscpc) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17n47j-000Dds-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:25:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:14:35 +0100 From: John Ferguson To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <4B71640547%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7156a895Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap 1.44 (01 Aug 2002) Snapshot-9, ZapEmail 0.26 (28 Nov 2001) test-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.68a User-Agent: POPstar/2.03 Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b7156a895Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > In article <4B71524288%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, > John Ferguson wrote: > > In article <4b7141ccc5Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> > > Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > > > > In article <4B70D003EA%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk>, > > > John Ferguson wrote: > > > > > > > > Just temporarily plug your modem lead into the serial port of > > > > > your RiscPC, start up ArcFax and off you go... Or buy a second > > > > > modem for this. > > > > > > > Or, as I have, a serial switch box. > > > > > > No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the > > > Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. > > > I maybe missing something obvious, but dial-up and fax can't be used at > > the same time and the modem plugs into the router's com port. How does > > that preclude the use of a switch box? > > Maybe it doesn't - but I thought you meant switching the riscpc serial > port between the modem and something else? What did you mean? My switch box switches the *modem* between RiscPC and PC to allow either to use it when required. Is it not the same to switch the modem between RiscPC and router to facilitate occasional faxing? John -- John Ferguson Taunton, Somerset, England mailto:john@fergusn.demon.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 23:27:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031264708:10:00309:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:27:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031264708:10:00309:50; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:25:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000548; 5 Sep 2002 22:25 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n53Q-0001iW-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:24:48 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85LQLr14425 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:26:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.225]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85LQCS14405 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:26:13 +0100 Received: from martin.lexicon (unknown [212.104.142.82]) by pegasus.mail.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B3750024 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:28:54 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Martin Longley To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:16:27 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] Re: admin: suggestion Message-ID: <4b716430femlongley@eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> References: <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04b (RISC-OS/4.29) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In article <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > As the list covers all of DP's products can everyone start putting the > product in question at the start of the subject line? I'd suggest we > have values like: > admin: like this email, covering general list-admin issues > OP: ovation pro (I think typing out "ovation pro:" will# > waste too much of the space in a mail's subject line) > ArcFax: question, or maybe > AF: question? But what do we put for 'the software that dare not speak it's name' (frequently used in conjunction with a scanner)? Martin Longley -- mlongley@eclipse.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 23:42:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031265707:10:25832:40".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:42:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031265707:10:25832:40; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:41:47 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id ab1024987; 5 Sep 2002 22:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17n5J6-0002LF-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:41:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85MeN020025 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:40:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85MeIv20020 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:40:18 +0100 Received: from ypical.demon.co.uk ([158.152.78.65]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17n5IP-000PBy-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:40:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:09:31 +0100 From: Fred Bambrough To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !SparkFS Message-ID: References: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: @ypical User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: [snip] > >I've found !SparkFS not always very reliable. At least four or five times > >in the past year, a large archive got corrupted when I tried to add > >something to it, or when an application within that archive changed > >something to the default settings. > >Is this just me, or does this sound familiar to others too? > > What sort of archive? which version of SparkFS? > > Corruption certainly does happen. Bugs get fixed though. And sometimes > the bug won't be in SparkFS. > > It's a bit of a problem, ever since Spark came out (1989) there have > been rumbles about "corruption in large archives" but rarely can anyone > provide an example. Just whistling in the wind but could it have anything to do with being caught out by the delay in closing the archive? Not experienced any corruption personally... of files that is. -- Fred -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 23:42:54 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031264967:20:04395:60".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:42:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031264967:20:04395:60; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:29:27 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2004368; 5 Sep 2002 22:29 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17n57j-0008Kp-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:29:15 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85MSL119172 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:28:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85MS9P19157 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:28:09 +0100 Received: from Rpc ([80.7.0.9]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020905222808.LDFR290.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@Rpc> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:28:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:23:44 +0100 From: John Sandford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax and RComp Net in Box Message-ID: <0f5a6a714b.jms@ntlworld.com> References: <4B71640547%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B71640547%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4B71640547%john@fergusn.demon.co.uk> John Ferguson wrote: snipped > > > > > Or, as I have, a serial switch box. > > > > > > > > No use in this case because the modem is plugged into the back of the > > > > Barricade Router and accessed via IP not the serial port. > > > > > I maybe missing something obvious, but dial-up and fax can't be used at > > > the same time and the modem plugs into the router's com port. How does > > > that preclude the use of a switch box? > > > > Maybe it doesn't - but I thought you meant switching the riscpc serial > > port between the modem and something else? What did you mean? > > My switch box switches the *modem* between RiscPC and PC to allow either > to use it when required. Is it not the same to switch the modem between > RiscPC and router to facilitate occasional faxing? > > John > -- > John Ferguson This is what I have done here in the past with a barracade router. -- John Sandford West Herts UK Hemel Hempstead Risc OS User Group www.hhrug.org.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Thu Sep 5 23:42:55 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031265673:20:18016:66".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:42:55 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031265673:20:18016:66; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:41:13 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2017984; 5 Sep 2002 22:41 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17n5J7-0003pA-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:41:01 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g85MeMZ20024 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:40:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g85MeGF20016 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:40:16 +0100 Received: from ypical.demon.co.uk ([158.152.78.65]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17n5IM-000PBy-0V for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:40:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:11:14 +0100 From: Fred Bambrough To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] admin: suggestion Message-ID: <003c53714b.fred@ypical.demon.co.uk> References: <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: @ypical User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.02) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message <4b7141f837Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> Jeremy C B Nicoll wrote: > As the list covers all of DP's products can everyone start putting the > product in question at the start of the subject line? I'd suggest we > have values like: > > admin: like this email, covering general list-admin issues > > OP: ovation pro (I think typing out "ovation pro:" will# > waste too much of the space in a mail's subject line) > > ArcFax: question, or maybe > AF: question? Oh gawd. Something else to remember. Some of us are aging. :-) -- Fred -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Sep 6 13:46:15 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031302243:20:18489:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:46:15 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031302243:20:18489:53; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 08:50:43 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2017528; 6 Sep 2002 8:49 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17nEo1-0001A0-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 09:49:33 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g868mlU28537 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:48:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g868mk528532 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:48:46 +0100 Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.52.247]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H20DSY01.UVR for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:48:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Sprangers To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:48:31 +0200 Subject: [softwarelist] !SparkFS Message-ID: <4b71a38d4dpaul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: References: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04e (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist David Pilling wrote: > I suppose one technique would be to run SparkFS from the desktop boot > file and then later in the desktop boot file, Filer_Boot !TWAIN. That > gets the ordering right. But that is exactly what I do. !SparkFS is on top of the list, immediately after: |Start RISCOS BootBoot 0.01 Boot All the others come after that. Or isn't this what you mean? About corruption in large archives: > What sort of archive? which version of SparkFS? Zip archives. Verion 1.38. When I come across another corruption I'll try to see if it is repeatable. Kind regards, Paul Sprangers -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Sep 6 14:16:43 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031317029:10:10020:53".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:16:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031317029:10:10020:53; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:57:09 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115552; 6 Sep 2002 12:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17nIf8-0004HE-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:56:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g86Cu4f03439 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:04 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86Cu4V03434 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:04 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17nIeZ-00004M-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:56:03 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:55:03 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !SparkFS References: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> <4b71a38d4dpaul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: <4b71a38d4dpaul@delink.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >But that is exactly what I do. !SparkFS is on top of the list, immediately >after: |Start RISCOS BootBoot 0.01 Boot >All the others come after that. >Or isn't this what you mean? I was thinking of the "desktop boot" file i.e. !Boot.Choices.Boot.Tasks.!Boot Which file are you talking about, and what do you do to run SparkFS in it? The Filer_Run command queues things, and this is a potential source of what you've apparently run not actually having run at a later time. Looking at the above filename, I have to admit I don't understand the intricacies of !Boot. >About corruption in large archives: >Zip archives. Verion 1.38. Hmm. One useful thing is that there are in the Windows etc. world, utilities for fixing corrupt Zip files. So often a corrupt Zip can be easily fixed. -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Sep 6 14:16:43 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031317028:10:07701:296".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:16:43 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031317028:10:07701:296; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 12:57:08 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1010239; 6 Sep 2002 12:56 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17nIf8-0002Kp-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:56:38 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g86Cua203509 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86Cua003505 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:36 +0100 Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17nIf5-0000Js-0U for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:56:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:56:14 +0100 Subject: [softwarelist] ArcFax: sending but not receiving? Message-ID: <4b71ba3b40john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.04c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist I purchased ArcFax some time ago but the need to use FAX disappeared at the same time ;-( I now need FAX facilities and have just made initial attempts: Receiving FAX has been a total failure: log shows 6 fails in an attempt to send me one page Sending FAX *appears* to be OK: log shows 1 FAX 'sent'. I'm using the Class1VA driver for a US Robotics Sportster Flash modem. Any advice on items to check for a typical manual misreading user - and means of checking that it's working OK without annoying too many people? -- John Cartmell john@cartmell.demon.co.uk Fleur Designs (boardgames) http://www.cartmell.demon.co.uk Acorn Publisher magazine http://www.acornpublisher.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Sep 6 15:01:56 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031320119:20:06913:50".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:01:56 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031320119:20:06913:50; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:48:39 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005914; 6 Sep 2002 13:47 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17nJSW-0001Bh-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:47:40 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g86DlYh12186 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86DlXn12180 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:33 +0100 Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([62.49.20.172]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17nJSJ-0008Ai-0W for softwarelist@davidpilling.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:47:27 +0100 Message-ID: <8gKilECQGLe9EwJN@pilling.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:45:52 +0100 To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net From: David Pilling Subject: Re: [softwarelist] ArcFax: sending but not receiving? References: <4b71ba3b40john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4b71ba3b40john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.01-S (<4T+r1rR+bkVQqNpwE9H6P2XkEQ>) Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist >Receiving FAX has been a total failure: >log shows 6 fails in an attempt to send me one page Use the debug facilities, record a failed receive attempt, let me have the spool file of it. That's the ultimate debugging method, but you also need to use your eyes and ears first. There are many ways faxing can fail. Does it fail in seconds or minutes, do you just see the preliminaries or do you see the main data transfer. >I'm using the Class1VA driver for a US Robotics Sportster Flash modem. Might be time to give Class 2.0 a go then. Class 2.0 works in a very different way to Class 1, with the modems insides doing the fax protocol. > >Any advice on items to check for a typical manual misreading user - and >means of checking that it's working OK without annoying too many people? > With ArcFax, the best advice was always to not change any setting unless you understood why you were changing it. Users would start thinking about things - like the buttons marked "answer" and "originate" and start changing the values. From default, very little needs changing. As to testing. It was always best to not just test using only one system, particularly not a local fax machine. These days you can probably use services on the net for test faxing. Way back I used to collect numbers of 'fax on demand' systems. ISTR someone like HP will fax you information. I don't mind you sending me a fax (number below) -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net post: David Pilling P.O. Box 22 Thornton Cleveleys Blackpool. FY5 1LR UK fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email listadmin@davidpilling.net with the words UNSUBSCRIBE softwarelist in the body of the message From owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Fri Sep 6 15:16:10 2002 Received: from pop3.demon.co.uk by pilling.demon.co.uk with POP3 id <"pilling.1031321587:20:19493:49".pilling@pop3.demon.co.uk> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:16:10 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031321587:20:19493:49; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:13:07 GMT Received: from smtp-relay02.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.6]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2018765; 6 Sep 2002 14:12 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay1.noc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17nJq8-0001LO-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:12:04 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g86EBZQ16261 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86EBZm16258 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:35 +0100 Received: from Rpc ([80.7.0.9]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020906141134.PAVZ25423.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@Rpc> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:10:28 +0100 From: John Sandford To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net Subject: Re: [softwarelist] !SparkFS Message-ID: References: <4b71154be6paul@delink.nl> <4b71a38d4dpaul@delink.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.60a (MsgServe/2.01beta) (RISC-OS/4.29) POPstar/2.03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: softwarelist@davidpilling.net X-maillist: softwarelist In message David Pilling wrote: > >But that is exactly what I do. !SparkFS is on top of the list, immediately > >after: |Start RISCOS BootBoot 0.01 Boot > >All the others come after that. > >Or isn't this what you mean? > > I was thinking of the "desktop boot" file i.e. > > !Boot.Choices.Boot.Tasks.!Boot > > Which file are you talking about, and what do you do to run SparkFS in > it? The Filer_Run command queues things, and this is a potential source > of what you've apparently run not actually having run at a later time. > > Looking at the above filename, I have to admit I don't understand the > intricacies of !Boot. snipped > > -- > David Pilling Paul is using RiscOS 4.02 which has a revised !Boot and now uses a Configuration system for Booting which allows drag and drop setting up of which Apps/Modules/Utilities are Filer_Booted/Filer_Run/ Added to Resources Apps. This writes this information to the relevant Boot files. ie !Boot.Choices.Boot.Desktop for Filer_Booting and Filer_Running, Predesktop file for AddApp the !Boot file in tasks is depreciated The file Boot.Desktop is run as the last entry in Utils.Bootrun just before the desktop is reached the Desktop file deals with the hook folders, the tasks directory contents,Utilities and Printing then any configured (See Above ) items which are listed in this file in this form If there then filer_Run (Boot) for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:31:54 +0100 Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 1031324819:20:21214:126; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:06:59 GMT Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net ([212.69.192.4]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2020728; 6 Sep 2002 15:05 GMT Received: from [212.69.206.29] (helo=spellings.dsvr.co.uk) by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 17nKeb-0000Rk-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:04:13 +0100 Received: (from admin@localhost) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g86F48r24774 for softwarelist-OutGoing; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:04:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: spellings.dsvr.co.uk: admin set sender to owner-softwarelist@davidpilling.net using -f Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by spellings.dsvr.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g86F48e24768 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:04:08 +0100 Received: from delink.planet.nl ([213.75.50.6]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Serve