From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 01:19:13 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145007 for opro ; Fri, 02 Feb 101 01:19:11 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981076761:20:09288:14; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:19:21 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2008753; 2 Feb 2001 1:18 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16846 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:11:46 GMT Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com [212.74.112.71]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16843 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:11:44 GMT Received: from ppp-1-124.5800-11.access.uk.worldonline.com ([62.64.178.124] helo=gavshome) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14OUk5-00022p-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:10:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gavin Crawford To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 01:09:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: StrongHelp Scrip Language Manual now available Message-ID: <4a4644df02gav@crawford-print.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro A StrongHelp version of the Ovation Pro Script Reference Guide is now available and can be downloaded from http://www.crawford-print.co.uk/resources.html The manual provides descriptions to the functions in Ovation Pro's Script Language, enabling easy access to a function's definition while programming using keyword lookups from editors that support it, such as StrongED and Zap. This StrongHelp version contains additional function definitions that were introduced in version 2.61 of Ovation Pro, and also some corrections and additions from the Script Language Reference Guide supplied on the 2.60 CD in Ovation Pro document format. It should be noted that the StrongHelp manual does not contain the complete Script Language Reference Guide, but only the function descriptions from chapters 5 and 6. It is planned that the StrongHelp manual and the Ovation Pro document versions will be kept in line with each other and new functions appearing in Ovation Pro will be added to both manuals. So I would appreciate any feedback regarding corrections or suggestions. Gav. -- Gavin Crawford email: gav@crawford-print.co.uk web: www.crawford-print.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:27 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145099 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:25 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981277817:20:08834:14; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 09:10:17 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116330; 4 Feb 2001 9:10 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26786 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:04:47 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA26783 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 08:04:45 GMT Received: from userae09.uk.uudial.com (oramj.argonet.co.uk) [62.188.131.151] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PL4y-0002Es-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:03:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:02:36 +0000 (GMT) From: "John E.D. Oram" Subject: strange cursor hang up To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: John Oram, Sheffield, + 44 0114 2663910 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R Hi David, My OP programme has started to produce an irritating little problem - the cursor will intermittently 'freeze' and have to be 'unstuck' by pressing Ctrl/Esc, which throws up an error box "Script stopped" but places the cursor on the next line and everything works normally again ( until the next time, often only a line or two later). The conditions that appear to generate this glitch are whenever I reach the end of a sentence, type a full-stop, and then press Return to move to a new line. And this only happens when the cursor is some way across the page width: typing just a few characters followed by a full-stop and Return, works perfectly. It only seems to happen if I have got past a certain horizontal position. When the fault occurs the cursor may remain visible but greyed and everything freezes, or it may disappear altogether. There are other occasions when it does not happen for about half a page and suddenly reappears. Obviously I must have introduced something new into the system, in the last week or two - but the only changes I am aware of making are to include a few more applets from the OP disc. And these seem to be in place and working fine. Any ideas why this is happening, and more particularly, how to put it right, would be very welcome. It is a bit of a drag to have to type Ctrl/Esc. every few lines. John. -- John Oram, John Oram & Associates - Psychotherapy Centre, 13 Rustlings Rd, Sheffield, S.Yorks, England. S11 7AA + 44 0114 2663910 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:30 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145101 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:28 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981282484:20:02232:13; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:28:04 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001419; 4 Feb 2001 10:27 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27081 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:24:13 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27078 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:24:11 GMT Received: from narrator.demon.co.uk ([158.152.60.112]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14PMJx-000BMl-0A for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:23:01 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by narrator.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:13:15 GMT Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:13:06 +0100 From: Neill McNeill To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Frames Message-ID: X-Organization: Home/Sensible Software X-Mailer: Messenger v1.41d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Hi to all, I write scripts and fimd it useful to have to have two frames side by side, each with different style characteristics, one for the character, one for the line. It works very well, but one slightly irritating thing is having to click the cursor from one to the other. Is it possible by pressing to toggle the cursor from the end of the text in one frame to the end of the text in the other? Ideas will be gratefully received. Regards, Neill McNeill -- | Neill McNeill | Streatham Common|LONDON SW16| |Acorn StrongArm Risc PC OS 3.7|48Mb| |Email:neill@narrator.demon.co.uk| |Visit:http://www.narrator.demon.co.uk| -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:32 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145100 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:28 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981298146:10:00876:14; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:49:06 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1115100; 4 Feb 2001 14:48 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27886 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:46:05 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27883 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 13:46:04 GMT Received: from userfn15.uk.uudial.com (62.188.24.202) [62.188.24.202] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PQPM-0001aA-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:44:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 14:29:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> References: <144813@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk>, David Breakwell wrote: > I'll post again very soon. I said I would and here is that posting I spent the weekend rewriting the RTF converter as decided the last version was pants (technical term). The latest version is a lot better and I am therefore releasing it. It handles quite a few of the basic formatting commands used in OP, this includes tabs and tab rulers, basic effects, basic styles, paragraph alignment, fonts etc. You should note that some features are a little primative at the moment and that it can get confused if you use lots of overlapping local effects (saving the document as DDL and reloading can help). The program takes no account of the document format (page size, margins etc) or graphic contents at the moment. The program has been designed to be extended for both the rest of the DDL commands and also for font mapping etc. These may well come if people find the current version useful. I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. Regards David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:39 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145104 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:37 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981303695:20:23344:14; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:21:35 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114312; 4 Feb 2001 16:21 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28316 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:19:11 GMT Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28313 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:19:09 GMT Received: from modem-88.adunakhor.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.96.216] helo=kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14PRrT-0006CI-00; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:18:00 +0000 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:58:24 +0000 (GMT) From: John Percy Kerslake Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk cc: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk, David Breakwell In-Reply-To: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Sun 04 Feb, David Breakwell wrote: snip > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less > than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. > Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. Yes please -- J.P.Kerslake B.Sc., F.B.I.S. e-mail address:- Work = kerslake@sees.bangor.ac.uk Home = johnpercy@kerslakej2.freeserve.co.uk Dyslexia Rules KO. RiscStation A.N.T.-I.S. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:41 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145105 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:39 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981303485:10:15204:14; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:18:05 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1015030; 4 Feb 2001 16:17 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28271 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:16:13 GMT Received: from snowstorm.mail.pipex.net (snowstorm.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.97]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28268 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:16:11 GMT Received: (qmail 24148 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2001 16:15:00 -0000 Received: from userej21.uk.uudial.com (HELO RPC) (62.188.13.32) by smtp-5.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2001 16:15:00 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 15:35:28 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4A479BCD1B%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <144813@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.10d POPstar/2.02 X-Editor: Zap 1.44, using ZapEmail 0.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> David Breakwell wrote: [snip] > I spent the weekend rewriting the RTF converter as decided the last > version was pants (technical term). The latest version is a lot better and > I am therefore releasing it. [snip] > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less > than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. > Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. How about posting it to argonet.acorn.binaries? -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.com/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk The old believe everything; the middle aged suspect everything; the young know everything. Oscar Wilde -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:45 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145106 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:42 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981306397:20:10793:15; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 17:06:37 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2114693; 4 Feb 2001 17:06 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28527 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:51:26 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28524 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:51:24 GMT Received: from userfq69.uk.uudial.com (62.188.26.45) [62.188.26.45] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PSMf-0003un-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:50:13 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:44:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a47a21ba3davidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A479BCD1B%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <144813@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> <4A479BCD1B%mik.tows User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4A479BCD1B%mik.towse@xemik.com>, Mik Towse wrote: > How about posting it to argonet.acorn.binaries? At present I would rather retain a list of users and correct bugs as they come and be able to send updates to them. I generally use the OP Resources site as this provides a single definitive site for all my applets and programs relating to OP. Future releases of !MakeRTF may also be careware. David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:21:49 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145107 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:45 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981317186:10:12195:13; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:06:26 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109055; 4 Feb 2001 20:06 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29320 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:01:13 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29317 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:01:11 GMT Received: from userfw43.uk.uudial.com (62.188.28.105) [62.188.28.105] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PVKI-0007cV-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:59:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 19:54:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Version 1.07 of Idx Pro Message-ID: <4a47b379d1davidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro I have released to the OP Resources site (http://www1.che.hw.ac.uk/~ovpro/) version 1.07 of Idx Pro. Hopefully Chris will upload this in the coming days. Version 1.07 has the following features: * Fixes Ctrl-X at end of document bug that froze OP * Corrects bugs in options saving/recall * Corrects bug in Page formats * Uses hourglass to indicate progress * Various performance increases * Very significant performance increase in Index sort routines The final point above increased performance for sort of the Index of the Scripts Manual on the CD from several hours to a few minutes. Please remember IdxPro is CareWare - if you find it useful then see the manual for contact details. Regards David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:00 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145111 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:21:56 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981318506:10:12920:13; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:28:26 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012019; 4 Feb 2001 20:27 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29381 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:06:21 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29378 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:06:19 GMT Received: from modem-125.belegund.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.138.125] helo=jwells24.freeserve.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14PVPI-0001hz-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:05:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:03:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Malcolm Wells Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Malcolm Wells X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Sun 04 Feb, David Breakwell wrote: > In article <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk>, > David Breakwell wrote: > > I'll post again very soon. > > I said I would and here is that posting > > I spent the weekend rewriting the RTF converter as decided the last > version was pants (technical term). The latest version is a lot better and > I am therefore releasing it. > > It handles quite a few of the basic formatting commands used in OP, this > includes tabs and tab rulers, basic effects, basic styles, paragraph > alignment, fonts etc. You should note that some features are a little > primative at the moment and that it can get confused if you use lots of > overlapping local effects (saving the document as DDL and reloading can > help). The program takes no account of the document format (page size, > margins etc) or graphic contents at the moment. > > The program has been designed to be extended for both the rest of the DDL > commands and also for font mapping etc. These may well come if people find > the current version useful. > > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less > than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. > Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. > > Regards > > David > > -- > --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. > |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| > | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' > | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk > with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message > > > Dear David, Yes please. -- Malcolm Wells -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:04 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145113 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:01 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981320394:20:03079:14; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 20:59:54 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2002999; 4 Feb 2001 20:59 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29612 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:53:32 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29609 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:53:30 GMT Received: from userad07.uk.uudial.com (62.188.131.50) [62.188.131.50] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PW8u-0000t0-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:52:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Steven Pampling To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 16:51:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a47a2cb2fsteve.pampling@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A479BCD1B%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <144813@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> <4A479BCD1B%mik.tows User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4A479BCD1B%mik.towse@xemik.com>, Mik Towse wrote: > > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is > > less than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a > > copy. Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. > How about posting it to argonet.acorn.binaries? At a wild guess because David would like to know who is using it, so that he can ensure updates are posted to those same people. And because he considers it rather much a *beta* stage product. Having said that, I think I will email him to get hold of a copy. I'm curious how far things have got. -- Steve Pampling -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:05 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145114 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:02 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981325178:10:22400:15; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 22:19:38 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1118512; 4 Feb 2001 22:19 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29973 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:17:18 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29970 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:17:17 GMT Received: from userep32.uk.uudial.com (62.188.15.129) [62.188.15.129] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PXS1-0002eJ-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:16:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 22:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: strange cursor hang up Message-ID: <4a47bff159davidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article , John E.D. Oram wrote: > Any ideas why this is happening, and more particularly, how to put it > right, would be very welcome. It is a bit of a drag to have to type > Ctrl/Esc. every few lines. If you are using !IdxPro then it may be the cause - the new release announced today fixes that problem. David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:08 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145115 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:06 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981333277:20:26801:13; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 00:34:37 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2127319; 5 Feb 2001 0:34 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30698 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:33:53 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA30695 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:33:51 GMT Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14PZaD-000JiH-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:32:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 00:07:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a47caa2d4john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a47c57584davidb@argonet.co.uk> References: <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> <4a47c57584davidb@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a47c57584davidb@argonet.co.uk>, David Breakwell wrote: > In article <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, > John Cartmell wrote: > > Riscript does allow text export. > But (as far as I am aware) it does not retain the style of the text (ie > font, size, colour etc) Next month's upgrade? ;-) Of course you are (so far!) correct. -- John Cartmell - Manchester, UK The next meeting of MAUG on Wednesday 21st February... ...will be... [strictly embargoed] -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:15 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145117 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:12 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981349734:20:08732:13; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 05:08:54 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2103711; 5 Feb 2001 5:08 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31684 for ovationpro-list; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:08:13 GMT Received: from planet.ak.planet.gen.nz (planet.ak.planet.gen.nz [202.20.65.1]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA31681 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:08:08 GMT Received: from Pzed.ak.planet.gen.nz (as5200-53.ak.planet.gen.nz [202.20.65.183]) by planet.ak.planet.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19541 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:06:55 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:12:31 +0100 (BST) From: David Love Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: OvationPro User Group In-Reply-To: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Sun 04 Feb, David Breakwell wrote: > In article <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk>, > David Breakwell wrote: > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less > than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. > Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. Yes, please David. David -- All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies (John Arbuthnot (1657-1735 - Scottish physician and political pamphleteer) -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:18 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145118 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:15 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981325836:10:06222:13; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 22:30:36 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1113485; 4 Feb 2001 22:30 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30042 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:28:53 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA30039 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:28:51 GMT Received: from userek01.uk.uudial.com (62.188.13.111) [62.188.13.111] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PXdC-0002vU-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:27:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From:(Mijas Software) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:58:39 +0100 X-Organization: ArgoNet, but does not necessarily reflect its views. X-Mailer: Posty - Voyager Email 1.24 for RISC OS 4.02 Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro David I would very much like to have a copy of your OP->RTF software if possible. You may know that I am looking at a complementary bit of software which is mainly aimed at getting RTF from sources which cannot export RTF - in practice I use it mostly for importing pdf manuals into Ovation in editable form when the original is not available. It relies on the use of !Riscript to create !Drawfiles from the pdf/postscript. A byproduct is that it can `clean up' the !Drawfiles produced by !Riscript by the use of more normal text transformatons and concatanating much of the text into full lines - making it useful for importing Posters etc. from PC sources into Ovation etc. If you are interested a (very early) beta version is on our web site:- http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/mijassw I too hope to include graphics at some point. Do you have a copy of the Microsoft RTF manual which gives quite a bit of detail in this area? Regards John -- ___ _ __ ___________________________________________ |\/| | | |_| (_ / Scientific/Education/Utilities - RISC OS 4 | | | _| | | __) Software / email: mijassw@argonet.co.uk - Developer ____________________________/ web: http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/mijassw/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:27 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145120 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:23 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981328131:10:10875:33; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:08:51 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1111403; 4 Feb 2001 23:08 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30279 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:07:57 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30276 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:07:55 GMT Received: from cartmell.demon.co.uk ([158.152.204.98]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14PYF3-000N1P-0X for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:06:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Cartmell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 22:56:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article , Mijas Software wrote: > David > I would very much like to have a copy of your OP->RTF software if > possible. You may know that I am looking at a complementary bit of > software which is mainly aimed at getting RTF from sources which cannot > export RTF - in practice I use it mostly for importing pdf manuals into > Ovation in editable form when the original is not available. It relies > on the use of !Riscript to create !Drawfiles from the pdf/postscript. Riscript does allow text export. -- John Cartmell - Manchester, UK The next meeting of MAUG on Wednesday 21st February... ...will be... [strictly embargoed] -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:30 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145121 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:27 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981369902:20:00719:18; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:45:02 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2000536; 5 Feb 2001 10:44 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00351 for ovationpro-list; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:40:34 GMT Received: from mail1.hw.ac.uk (mail1.hw.ac.uk [137.195.170.11]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00348 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:40:31 GMT Received: from [137.195.101.212] (helo=mail-r2.hw.ac.uk ident=exim) by mail1.hw.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Pj3F-0005yx-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:39:17 +0000 Received: from isambard.che.hw.ac.uk ([137.195.32.15]) by mail-r2.hw.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Pj3F-0003nW-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:39:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Chris Johnson To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:32:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Addition to resources site Message-ID: <4a4803df4fC.A.Johnson@hw.ac.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Just to confirm that version 1.07 of IdxPro is now on the resources site, url in sig. Chris... -- Chris Johnson mailto: C.A.Johnson@hw.ac.uk (at work) mailto: Chris@bulldog.u-net.com (at home) ovpro web site http://www1.che.hw.ac.uk/~ovpro/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 16:22:32 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145122 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 16:22:30 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981328687:10:01389:16; Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:18:07 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000458; 4 Feb 2001 23:17 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30335 for ovationpro-list; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:17:34 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30332 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:17:32 GMT Received: from userej37.uk.uudial.com (62.188.13.48) [62.188.13.48] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14PYOK-0003x7-00; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:16:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:10:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a47c57584davidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> References: <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a47c42543john@cartmell.demon.co.uk>, John Cartmell wrote: > Riscript does allow text export. But (as far as I am aware) it does not retain the style of the text (ie font, size, colour etc) David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 21:22:38 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145154 for opro ; Mon, 05 Feb 101 21:22:35 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981403687:10:03769:18; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 20:08:07 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1109603; 5 Feb 2001 20:08 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02224 for ovationpro-list; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:50:06 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02221 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:50:04 GMT Received: (qmail 26025 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2001 19:49:59 -0000 Received: from useraa30.uk.uudial.com (HELO RPC) (62.188.130.30) by smtp-1.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 19:49:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 22:52:40 +0000 From: Mik Towse To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4A47C3D41A%mik.towse@xemik.com> References: <4a47a21ba3davidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a47a21ba3davidb@argonet.co.uk> X-Organization: Xemik Solutions! Ltd User-Agent: Messenger-Pro 2.10d POPstar/2.02 X-Editor: Zap 1.44, using ZapEmail 0.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a47a21ba3davidb@argonet.co.uk> David Breakwell wrote: > Mik Towse wrote: > > How about posting it to argonet.acorn.binaries? > At present I would rather retain a list of users and correct bugs as they > come and be able to send updates to them. [snip] Fair comment. It was just a thought... :o) -- Mik Towse * mik.towse@xemik.com * http://www.xemik.com/ My writers' site can be found at: http://www.lexis.org.uk Cats know precisely when their owners will wake up. Then promptly awaken them 10 minutes earlier. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 6 01:59:23 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145166 for opro ; Tue, 06 Feb 101 01:59:21 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981420917:20:14485:14; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 00:55:17 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2102840; 6 Feb 2001 0:54 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03123 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:47:33 GMT Received: from imo-r14.mx.aol.com (imo-r14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03120 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:47:31 GMT From: Received: from Tomhopley@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id d.30.1019b260 (3861) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:46:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <30.1019b260.27b0a377@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:46:47 EST Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In a message dated 2/4/01 2:46:49 PM GMT Standard Time, davidb@argonet.co.uk writes: > For this version please mail me if you want a copy. Yes please TomH tomhopley@aol.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 6 17:48:51 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145211 for opro ; Tue, 06 Feb 101 17:48:48 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981477255:10:27735:30; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:34:15 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1119907; 6 Feb 2001 16:33 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05933 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:11:40 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05930 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:11:37 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14QAiK-0000oK-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:11:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 14:10:54 GMT Message-Id: <145200@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: strange cursor hang up X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro >My OP programme has started to produce an irritating little problem - the >cursor will intermittently 'freeze' and have to be 'unstuck' by pressing >Ctrl/Esc, which throws up an error box "Script stopped" but places the >cursor on the next line and everything works normally again ( until the >next time, often only a line or two later). Given the symptoms, an applet is the suspect. >week or two - but the only changes I am aware of making are to include a >few more applets from the OP disc. Ah ha! Turn them off until you find the one which is causing the trouble. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 20:08:49 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145274 for opro ; Wed, 07 Feb 101 20:08:47 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981576021:20:15648:13; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:00:21 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2015501; 7 Feb 2001 20:00 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10831 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:55:02 GMT Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10825 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:54:54 GMT Received: from modem-39.depacon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.88.39] helo=jhmarsden.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Qag0-0000IU-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:54:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:29:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Dr J H E Marsden Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <4a4795cd3bdavidb@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R On Sun 04 Feb, David Breakwell wrote: > In article <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk>, > David Breakwell wrote: > > snip > I have sent this version to anyone who has mailed me directly - it is less > than 10k in size. For this version please mail me if you want a copy. > Later versions may well be release on the OP Resources site. I should be very grateful for a copy, -- John Marsden. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 13:25:33 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145295 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 13:25:31 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981597809:10:25422:21; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 02:03:29 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1025236; 8 Feb 2001 2:03 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA11893 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:01:24 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11890 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:01:22 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14QgOg-0003fO-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 02:01:22 +0000 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:50:12 GMT Message-Id: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Hi, Someone asked me to explain... A few people have posted to the list that they'd like the RTF saver. Problem is that all 500 other people on the list get to read the request. And its not very interesting or illuminating for them. What you're supposed to do is email David Breakwell by private email. Secondly I occasionally read comp.sys.acorn and my email reader shows about the first 30 lines of each message. I can rarely skip through messages because usually the first 30 lines are quoted. Again other list users will appreciate you quoting the relevant bits of messages, and not quoting an 80 line chunk and sticking 'me too' on the end. Finally I've seen the RTF saver and it fits in very nicely with Ovation Pro. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From jmgray@argonet.co.uk Thu Feb 8 13:25:36 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145296 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 13:25:35 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981619429:10:19170:6; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 08:03:49 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1018913; 8 Feb 2001 8:03 GMT Received: from userbi72.uk.uudial.com (62.188.143.136) [62.188.143.136] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14Qm2z-0000HP-00; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:03:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: J.M. Gray To: David Pilling Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 06:44:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a497a87bfjmgray@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain In article <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > A few people > by private email. > Secondly > sticking 'me too' on the end. Hear, hear! -- J.M. Gray, Assistant Treasurer British Lichen Society jmgray@argonet.co.uk ************************************************ * Please note the new URL for the BLS website: * * http://www.theBLS.org.uk * ************************************************ From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 13:25:44 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145300 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 13:25:42 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981638450:20:03894:42; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:20:50 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2003321; 8 Feb 2001 13:20 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13724 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:16:21 GMT Received: from cwcom.net (email.cwcom.net [195.44.0.150]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13721 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:16:19 GMT Received: from default ([195.44.14.220]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:18:02 +0000 Message-ID: <002c01c091d1$2ed0c480$cfd32cc3@default> From: "Noel Thompson" To: References: Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:14:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alf Chamings" To: Sent: 08 February, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF > On Thu 08 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > > > > > > Finally I've seen the RTF saver and it fits in very nicely with Ovation Pro > > > A great addition, but so far I have not been able to make it produce files > that Word 97 can open. I take it other people have not had this problem or > they would have said so. > > What I have done is take any old OPro file, save as RTF on to a DOS floppy > with either a /RTF or /DOC extension and try to open it in Word on a PC. I > get an error message saying Word cannot open this file. Easiwriter can open > them but with some strange effects on formatting. Easiwriter also gives a > message 'unexpected end to RTF file' before it opens it. > > Any comments, anyone? > > Alf > I did exactly the same and had precisely the same experience in all particulars, except that I omitted the DOS floppy stage. Having a RiscPC, I made a direct transfer of the RTF file from OP to Word 97. I informed David of this by a message to his own address. Noel Thompson. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 13:28:15 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145302 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 13:28:13 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981633439:10:16508:22; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:57:19 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1105811; 8 Feb 2001 11:56 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13410 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:51:08 GMT Received: from holyrood.ed.ac.uk (holyrood.ed.ac.uk [129.215.16.14]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13407 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:51:05 GMT Received: from alfred.ed.ac.uk (dialup-132.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.132]) by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA10147 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:51:04 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:51:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Alf Chamings Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Thu 08 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > > > Finally I've seen the RTF saver and it fits in very nicely with Ovation Pro > A great addition, but so far I have not been able to make it produce files that Word 97 can open. I take it other people have not had this problem or they would have said so. What I have done is take any old OPro file, save as RTF on to a DOS floppy with either a /RTF or /DOC extension and try to open it in Word on a PC. I get an error message saying Word cannot open this file. Easiwriter can open them but with some strange effects on formatting. Easiwriter also gives a message 'unexpected end to RTF file' before it opens it. Any comments, anyone? Alf -- Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, EH3 9YW, UK tel +44 131 536 3251 fax +44 131 536 3283 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 14:25:38 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145303 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 14:25:36 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981641158:10:00983:18; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:05:58 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1106352; 8 Feb 2001 14:05 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13933 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:57:57 GMT Received: from apollo.le.ac.uk (apollo.le.ac.uk [143.210.16.125]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13930 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:57:55 GMT Received: from happy.star.le.ac.uk ([143.210.36.58]) by apollo.le.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Qra6-0007Ex-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 13:57:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 24261 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 13:58:15 -0000 Received: from xmm4.xra.le.ac.uk (143.210.40.54) by happy.star.le.ac.uk with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 13:58:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:57:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Liam Gretton Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Space Research Centre, University of Leicester, UK X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Thu 08 Feb, Alf Chamings wrote: > What I have done is take any old OPro file, save as RTF on to a DOS floppy > with either a /RTF or /DOC extension and try to open it in Word on a PC. I > get an error message saying Word cannot open this file. Easiwriter can > open them but with some strange effects on formatting. Easiwriter also > gives a message 'unexpected end to RTF file' before it opens it. This suggests that you're not dismounting the DOS floppy once you've finished with it. It's very important with RISC OS that you always dismount DOS floppies when you've finished writing to them. -- Liam Gretton ljg@star.le.ac.uk Space Research Centre, http://www.src.le.ac.uk/ Physics and Astronomy Dept, phone +44 (0) 116 223 1039 University of Leicester, fax +44 (0) 116 252 2464 Leicester LE1 7RH, UK http://xmm4.xra.le.ac.uk/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 14:25:39 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145304 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 14:25:36 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981642183:20:02104:42; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:23:03 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2001479; 8 Feb 2001 14:22 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14080 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:18:14 GMT Received: from holyrood.ed.ac.uk (holyrood.ed.ac.uk [129.215.16.14]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14077 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:18:12 GMT Received: from alfred.ed.ac.uk (dialup-132.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.132]) by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23741 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:18:11 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:19:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Alf Chamings Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Thu 08 Feb, Liam Gretton wrote: > On Thu 08 Feb, Alf Chamings wrote: > > What I have done is take any old OPro file, save as RTF on to a DOS floppy > > with either a /RTF or /DOC extension and try to open it in Word on a PC. I > > get an error message saying Word cannot open this file. Easiwriter can > > open them but with some strange effects on formatting. Easiwriter also > > gives a message 'unexpected end to RTF file' before it opens it. > > This suggests that you're not dismounting the DOS floppy once you've > finished with it. It's very important with RISC OS that you always dismount > DOS floppies when you've finished writing to them. > Thanks for the reminder. It's not that, though. See forwarded message from David Breakwell. He is aware of the problem and will fix it. Alf -- Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, EH3 9YW, UK tel +44 131 536 3251 fax +44 131 536 3283 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Thu Feb 8 20:05:30 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145315 for opro ; Thu, 08 Feb 101 20:05:27 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981642435:10:02113:18; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:27:15 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1127676; 8 Feb 2001 14:27 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14051 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:14:24 GMT Received: from holyrood.ed.ac.uk (holyrood.ed.ac.uk [129.215.16.14]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14048 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:14:22 GMT Received: from alfred.ed.ac.uk (dialup-132.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.132]) by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22516 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:14:21 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Alf Chamings Subject: !MakeRTF (fwd) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <4918B9B9016ED411AF5B00D0B72035486A9721@UKMain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro -- Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, EH3 9YW, UK tel +44 131 536 3251 fax +44 131 536 3283 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:12:12 -0000 From: To: AlfChamings@ed.ac.uk Subject: !MakeRTF Hi Alf I was ware of these problems last night and made a fix for Easiwriter. I believe it is the same problem for MS Word. I will issue a new release at the end of the week to all registered users. In the meantime WordPad loads the RTF correctly. David PS: Can you post the above to mailing list as I don't have the address handy - Thanks This forwarded message from David Breakwell relates to the problem I had in getting Word to load an RTF file from this applet. Alf -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 02:34:25 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145320 for opro ; Fri, 09 Feb 101 02:34:23 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981676883:10:12651:20; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:01:23 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1012351; 9 Feb 2001 0:01 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15952 for ovationpro-list; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:47:14 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15949 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:47:11 GMT Received: from modem-88.lemonpeel-angel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.37.88] helo=magray.freeserve.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14R0m9-0000MT-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Thu, 08 Feb 2001 23:47:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ray Dawson To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:04:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a49b34b11rayd@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02c (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Organization: MagRay Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article , Alf Chamings wrote: > On Thu 08 Feb, David Pilling wrote: > > > > > > Finally I've seen the RTF saver and it fits in very nicely with > > Ovation Pro > > > A great addition, but so far I have not been able to make it produce > files that Word 97 can open. I take it other people have not had this > problem or they would have said so. > What I have done is take any old OPro file, save as RTF on to a DOS > floppy with either a /RTF or /DOC extension and try to open it in Word > on a PC. I get an error message saying Word cannot open this file. > Easiwriter can open them but with some strange effects on formatting. > Easiwriter also gives a message 'unexpected end to RTF file' before it > opens it. Same here, although I'm saving over my network as a .rtf file. Word 2000 tells me that the pathname is incorrect and it can't load the file. Cheers, Ray D -- ..===================================. | M a g R a y Document Services | Ray Dawson Tel: 020 8864 7208 | the audio and braille specialists | rayd@argonet.co.uk '===================================' http://www.magray.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 02:34:28 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145321 for opro ; Fri, 09 Feb 101 02:34:26 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981679063:10:25765:18; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:37:43 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1025317; 9 Feb 2001 0:37 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16083 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:18:42 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA16080 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:18:39 GMT Received: from userfv54.uk.uudial.com (62.188.28.17) [62.188.28.17] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14R1Gm-000144-00; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:18:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 00:12:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a49da78cddavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> References: <144813@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a45ab638fdavidb@argonet.co.uk>, David Breakwell wrote: > Due to the obvious interest in this I've decided to focus on getting a > Beta release out (I've got a little more time) as I really need some > people testing it. Dear All The beta has now been released and I have started to get back useful bug reports and feedback. I hope that over the weekend these can be fixed so that Easiwriter/Word can load all the fields !MakeRTF generates. In the meantime I believe that WordPad can load the files successfully that word cannot (the other alternative is to add }s to the end of the file until you reach success). Many thanks for your support and encouragement David In addition the hope is that I can work around the bugs in the RTF loader so that my RTF can be loaded into OP. -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 14:04:27 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145341 for opro ; Fri, 09 Feb 101 14:04:26 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981718822:20:13113:21; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:40:22 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2012790; 9 Feb 2001 11:40 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17801 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:33:47 GMT Received: from altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net (altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net [193.67.237.6]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17798 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:33:45 GMT Received: from padua by altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net via 1Cust15.tnt12.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.116.118.15] with SMTP for id MAA07579 (8.8.8/1.3); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:33:40 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000f01c0928b$9afe4b40$4d01a8c0@padua> From: "Tonnie Demarteau" To: "Ovation Pro" References: <145289@pilling.demon.co.uk> <4a49b34b11rayd@argonet.co.uk> Subject: Re: !MakeRTF - Save story as RTF Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:29:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro For the RTF's made with !MakeRTF of Ovation Pro files, that don't open in Word, there is a simple cure: Loading the RTF first in Wordpad (you can find this program on every PC) and use save. After that, the RTF loads quite happily in Word. mrs. Tonnie Demarteau - the Netherlands -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 14:04:50 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145343 for opro ; Fri, 09 Feb 101 14:04:48 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981725168:20:19651:13; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:26:08 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2018925; 9 Feb 2001 13:25 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27007 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:22:23 GMT Received: from holyrood.ed.ac.uk (holyrood.ed.ac.uk [129.215.16.14]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27004 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:22:20 GMT Received: from alfred.ed.ac.uk (dialup-133.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.38.133]) by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10369 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:22:19 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:23:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Alf Chamings Subject: Re: save story as RTF To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <4a49da78cddavidb@argonet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro On Fri 09 Feb, David Breakwell wrote: > The beta has now been released and I have started to get back useful bug > reports and feedback. I hope that over the weekend these can be fixed so > that Easiwriter/Word can load all the fields !MakeRTF generates. In the > meantime I believe that WordPad can load the files successfully that word > cannot (the other alternative is to add }s to the end of the file until > you reach success). > > Many thanks for your support and encouragement > > David > > In addition the hope is that I can work around the bugs in the RTF loader > so that my RTF can be loaded into OP. > Great. Wordpad route seems to work fine. Alf -- Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, EH3 9YW, UK tel +44 131 536 3251 fax +44 131 536 3283 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 16:05:42 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145352 for opro ; Fri, 09 Feb 101 16:05:40 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981728113:20:22087:18; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:15:13 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2101288; 9 Feb 2001 14:14 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27340 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:12:19 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27337 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:12:17 GMT Received: from userep40.uk.uudial.com (bi11.argonet.co.uk) [62.188.15.137] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14REHY-0005dG-00; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:12:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Richard Torrens To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 13:44:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Catalogues Message-ID: <4a4a24d74drichard@4qd.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro We publish a catalogue - it's in two parts. Most items have a drawing and a description. It's the sort of thing Farnel, RS and most other catalogue publishers do, but on a small scale. I'm happy with what I have done in O-Pro - until it is time to add new bits. This may be in part because of the way I have the objects arranged. But I'm sure it's a problem others have experienced, so how would others go about it. I've tried embedded objects - but I don't think that's ever going to be appropriate for this sort of thing? The more complicated O-Pro document is at http://www.4qd.co.uk/instrs/accs.zip Both are available in PDF http://www.4qd.co.uk/instrs/accs.pdf http://www.4qd.co.uk/instrs/select.pdf The second one has a centrefold: http://www.4qd.co.uk/instrs/selcentre.pdf which is done in PipeDream - maybe there's a better way of doing that? There is also a pricelist - done in Techwriter. But I'd also rather use O-Pro for that. Can't see a way - would Tablemate do it? If anyone wants other originals to play with, please ask. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Torrens 4QD manufacture speed controllers for battery electric motors. www site http://www.4QD.co.uk ---------- We use a RISC PC 32 bit RISC computer ---------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Sat Feb 10 01:43:32 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145372 for opro ; Sat, 10 Feb 101 01:43:29 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981758670:10:25822:15; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:44:30 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1128252; 9 Feb 2001 22:44 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28719 for ovationpro-list; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:41:25 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28716 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:41:23 GMT Received: from userfv80.uk.uudial.com (62.188.28.43) [62.188.28.43] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14RMEE-0001xK-00; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:41:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:32:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a4a5527b2davidb@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Dear All, Just a quick note to say I have now modelled why people are experiencing a few mismatches between OP and the saved RTF. I am therefore working on a new release to overcome this issue (it was a design flaw in my generation logic caused by a misunderstanding of the DDL logic). I will send a revised version to all registered users when this work is complete. On a different note please send any bug reports etc to me directly and not via the mailing list as this only clogs up the list with unnecessary messages - I am keen to resolve issues and make MakeRTF a useful product. In light of the current bugs please do not send any further bug reports until after the next release - the current bugs can cause incorrect text formatting and styles and also result in some RTF readers refusing to load the file (this comes down to how forgiving the readers are for incorrect RTF). Cheers David PS: Some users requests for MakeRTF have been bounced - you are still on the distribution list and I will attempt to mail you the update. -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 18:20:18 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145400 for opro ; Mon, 12 Feb 101 18:20:15 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981847050:10:19841:25; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:17:30 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1105723; 10 Feb 2001 23:17 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32041 for ovationpro-list; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:56:50 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA32037 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:56:48 GMT Received: from userep58.uk.uudial.com (62.188.15.155) [62.188.15.155] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14Riwc-0000Ox-00; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:56:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:49:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: save story as RTF Message-ID: <4a4ada921cdavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a4a5527b2davidb@argonet.co.uk> References: <4a4a5527b2davidb@argonet.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <4a4a5527b2davidb@argonet.co.uk>, David Breakwell wrote: > Just a quick note to say I have now modelled why people are experiencing > a few mismatches between OP and the saved RTF. I am therefore working on > a new release to overcome this issue (it was a design flaw in my > generation logic caused by a misunderstanding of the DDL logic). My two testers have returned with their verdicts of release 3.02, these appear to be positive with the major reported bugs fixed. I've got a few mods to do to include underlining, super/subscript etc but the release will be completed by tomorrow. All users who have sent emails will receive a copy of this update. Regards David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 18:22:41 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145429 for opro ; Mon, 12 Feb 101 18:22:37 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981985584:20:14787:15; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:46:24 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2116493; 12 Feb 2001 13:46 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04484 for ovationpro-list; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:33:33 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA04481 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:33:30 GMT Received: from userec62.uk.uudial.com (oramj.argonet.co.uk) [62.188.10.142] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14SJ6e-0002eJ-00; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:33:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:32:32 +0000 (GMT) From: "John E.D. Oram" Subject: Re: strange cursor hang-up To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: John Oram, Sheffield, + 44 0114 2663910 X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Hi Thanks to those of you who came up with helpful suggestions as to why the text cursor suddenly hung-up after pressing following certain full-stops. (generating the "script stopped" error notice). I eventually tracked it down to the presence of the "!Line" applet from Levens Software as Jonathan Somnier had suggested (special Ta! to him). It has confirmed one other thing for me - that it is worth wading through the large number of e-mails that the !OPro helpline sends, when you get such speedy and helpful responses. John. -- John Oram, John Oram & Associates - Psychotherapy Centre, 13 Rustlings Rd, Sheffield, S.Yorks, England. S11 7AA + 44 0114 2663910 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 18:22:48 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145430 for opro ; Mon, 12 Feb 101 18:22:44 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 981991219:20:19311:13; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:20:19 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2019188; 12 Feb 2001 15:20 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04762 for ovationpro-list; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:13:27 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04759 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:13:25 GMT Received: from mk-net.demon.co.uk ([194.222.12.18] helo=Tonys) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14SKfK-000FNS-0V for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:13:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:16:31 GMT From: Tony van der Hoff To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: strange cursor hang-up Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: CCC User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10d (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In message you wrote: > Hi > > Thanks to those of you who came up with helpful suggestions as to why the > text cursor suddenly hung-up after pressing following certain > full-stops. (generating the "script stopped" error notice). > > I eventually tracked it down to the presence of the "!Line" applet from > Levens Software as Jonathan Somnier had suggested (special Ta! to him). > > It has confirmed one other thing for me - that it is worth wading through > the large number of e-mails that the !OPro helpline sends, when you get > such speedy and helpful responses. > It also emphasises the point that (IME) anything by Levens Software needs to be treated with a fair amount of caution. -- Tony van der Hoff | MailTo:tony@mk-net.demon.co.uk | MailTo:avanderhoff@iee.org Buckinghamshire, England | http:mk-net.demon.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 14:23:07 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145497 for opro ; Tue, 13 Feb 101 14:22:46 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982068085:20:04889:23; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:41:25 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2005107; 13 Feb 2001 12:41 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07692 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:23:49 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07689 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:23:47 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14SeUl-0004kg-0V for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:23:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:20:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: strange cursor hang-up Message-ID: <4a4c2c79afJeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Pluto/2.01g (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R On 12 Feb, John E.D. Oram wrote: > Hi > Thanks to those of you who came up with helpful suggestions as to why > the text cursor suddenly hung-up after pressing following > certain full-stops. (generating the "script stopped" error notice). > I eventually tracked it down ... Perhaps DP could enhance the code that drives scripts so that error boxes like this include the script's name? -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 17:20:09 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145523 for opro ; Tue, 13 Feb 101 17:20:08 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982080094:20:29608:19; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:01:34 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2029455; 13 Feb 2001 16:01 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08300 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:46:45 GMT Received: from mail.ims-firmen.de (qmailr@mail.ims-firmen.de [212.172.125.4]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA08297 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:46:43 GMT Received: (qmail 598 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2001 15:49:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shelley) (217.2.255.14) by ims-firmen.de with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 15:49:51 -0000 Received: from uff411.ucs.de (212.108.202.179) by shelley.ucs.de; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:43:02 +0100 Received: from kaskaskia.ucs.de by uff411.ucs.de; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:45:25 +0100 Received: from martinv by kaskaskia.ucs.de with local (RemoteNB 1.08beta2) for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; 13 Feb 2001 16:45:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:45:22 +0100 From: Martin Vethake To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: German hyphenation Message-ID: <443b3f4c4a.martinv@kaskaskia.ucs.de> References: <143389@pilling.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <143389@pilling.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: U C S User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10 (RemoteNB/1.08beta2) (RISC-OS/3.70) X-Editor: Zap 1.44 (14 Jan 2001) [TEST 4], ZapEmail 0.25 (20 Sep 2000) test-5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R Hello, me again, there are quite a few customers asking about german hyphenation. I was thinking if we just had a *really* big exception dict would that not work? Regards -- Martin Vethake Uffenkamp Computer Systeme snailmail: Uffenkamp Computer Systeme Gartenstr. 3 D-32130 Enger-Dreyen email : martinv@ucs.de web : http://www.ucs.de/ voice : +49-5224-978075 fax : +49-5224-978076 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 19:23:26 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145535 for opro ; Tue, 13 Feb 101 19:23:22 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982085764:10:01485:20; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:36:04 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1000032; 13 Feb 2001 17:35 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08676 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:21:17 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA07056 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:36:47 GMT Received: from userax15.uk.uudial.com (62.188.139.6) [62.188.139.6] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14Sa0f-0005Sh-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:36:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Colin Wildart To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:43:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Proactive Buttons Message-ID: <4a4c131d2ecolinwoolf@wildart.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/1.14f (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Hi For some time now I have wished that the buttons for 'snap to guidelines' and 'snap to object' would show whether they are set or unset. I am sure that I am not alone in this. Designing two sets of buttons for each is no problem writing the script to do this is beyond me. DavidP is too busy at present, so if someone would like one of my prints adorning their walls as payment, I lay down the gauntlet. First working script wins the prize. TTFN Colin -- Colin Woolf Watercolour Artist - Fine Art Paintings Graphic Design & Illustration please visit the Web Site www.wildart.co.uk colinwoolf@wildart.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 19:23:33 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145536 for opro ; Tue, 13 Feb 101 19:23:29 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982086007:10:08906:13; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:40:07 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1117438; 13 Feb 2001 17:39 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08677 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:21:18 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07708 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:31:32 GMT Received: from modem-52.dextroamphetam.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.90.52] helo=freeserve.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14SecF-0004bN-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:31:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Jordan To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:26:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Euro symbol Message-ID: <4a4c2d0017brian@drood68.freeserve.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02d (RISC-OS/4.02) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R I know I once found a way of removing the Euro symbol from the left side of the !StylePal applet display. I had a bit of a tidy-up today and it came back. How do I get this to display as a tick again? -- Brian Jordan >From an SA RPC somewhere in North Hampshire. England Did Noah keep his bees in archives? -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 01:52:56 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145555 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 01:52:54 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982101105:10:24057:34; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:51:45 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1023559; 13 Feb 2001 21:51 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09540 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:46:26 GMT Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09537 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:46:24 GMT Received: from [212.238.35.147] (helo=woltersd.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 14SnHD-0004hN-00 for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:46:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:35:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Dick Wolters Subject: Re: German hyphenation To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <443b3f4c4a.martinv@kaskaskia.ucs.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.53] Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In on Tue 13 Feb, Martin Vethake wrote: > Hello, > me again, there are quite a few customers asking about german hyphenation. > I was thinking if we just had a *really* big exception dict would that > not work? Yes, it will. I do it with the Dutch dictionary. It would be nice to have more than one !HyphDict, one for every language you want to use. Dick -- D.Wolters Maastricht e-mail: postbus@woltersd.demon.nl http://www.woltersd.demon.nl -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 01:52:59 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145556 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 01:52:57 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982101849:10:13492:19; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:04:09 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1100713; 13 Feb 2001 22:04 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09624 for ovationpro-list; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:01:18 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09621 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:01:16 GMT Received: from userfs34.uk.uudial.com (62.188.26.208) [62.188.26.208] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14SnVb-00013d-00; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:01:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:55:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Proactive Buttons Message-ID: <4a4c611abcdavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4a4c131d2ecolinwoolf@wildart.co.uk> References: <4a4c131d2ecolinwoolf@wildart.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R In article <4a4c131d2ecolinwoolf@wildart.co.uk>, Colin Wildart wrote: > For some time now I have wished that the buttons for > 'snap to guidelines' and 'snap to object' would show whether they > are set or unset. I am sure that I am not alone in this. > Designing two sets of buttons for each is no problem writing > the script to do this is beyond me. > DavidP is too busy at present, so if someone would like one of my > prints adorning their walls as payment, I lay down the gauntlet. > First working script wins the prize. int lockgrid = 1; int lockobj = 1; string lg_on = "time"; string lg_off = "date"; string lo_on = "time"; string lo_off = "time"; string snapmac_do(int button, int opt) { string ret; ret =""; opt = ((opt&0xFF00)>>8); if(button==1) { if(opt==8) { if(lockgrid==1) ret = lg_on; else ret = lg_off; } if (opt==1) { lockgrid = lockgrid ^ 1; } } if(button==2) { if(opt==8) { if(lockobj==1) ret = lo_on; else ret = lo_off; } if (opt==1) { lockobj = lockobj ^ 1; } } viewpref1(283464,28246,0,0,lockgrid,lockobj,1); return ret; } void main() { lockgrid = 0; lockobj = 0; defmacro2(68,"lockgswtch","{macv=snapmac_do(1,macenv);}",lg_off,"Switch Lock Grid"); defmacro2(68,"lockgswtch2","{macv=snapmac_do(2,macenv);}",lo_off,"Switch Lock Object"); } 1. Create a new directory in your applets directory called !lockswtch 2. Copy in a !ARun from another applet directory 3. Create a subdirectory of !lockswtch called library 4. Save the above program with filetype OvpScrpt in library with a filename of lockswtch. This creates two buttons on the button bar that act as switches for the two options, the text defaults at the top are the button names (sprites) used. I'd be the first to admit its not 100% elegant but it should work. Regards David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 02:53:08 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145574 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 02:53:07 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982115807:20:25620:16; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:56:47 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2025373; 14 Feb 2001 1:56 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10295 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:31 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10291 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:29 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Sr8L-000B78-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:56:38 GMT Message-Id: <145548@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: Euro symbol X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro How to get rid of the Euro... I think Nick Kaijaks improved StylePal does this. If you have the CD it's in Others.Kaijaks. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 02:53:12 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145575 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 02:53:10 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982115837:20:26590:16; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:57:17 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2117779; 14 Feb 2001 1:56 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10294 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:30 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10287 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:28 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Sr8J-000B78-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:53:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:53:28 GMT Message-Id: <145546@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: German hyphenation X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Yes, having a really big exceptions dictionary would work. although I always get confused about the supposed existence of rules in German which change the spelling of a word if it is hyphenated. That sort of thing can't be accomodated without big changes in the program. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:40 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145576 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:37 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982119467:10:20106:22; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:57:47 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1019865; 14 Feb 2001 2:57 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10636 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:04 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA10633 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:02 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Ss4v-000H8d-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:03:06 GMT Message-Id: <145566@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: Help needed printing Pamphlets please X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro >Can any kind soul suggest the correct settings in the Print Set Up >dialogue window and help save a few trees!! I seem to have got There's no 'right' setting for reverse. It depends on the paper path in your printer. Many will have a choice of two. Simply if the first sheet of paper from the first pass is going to be the first printed on the second pass then reverse should not be selected. If it is the last then reverse should be selected. As to numebrs being all over the place. I'd be inclined to see what the problem is. Page 1 should have page 2 on its back. If you find the last sheet has page 2 on its back then the reverse setting is wrong. If you expand the print dialogue box there's a button 'sheet' which will let you see what should be on each sheet and let you print a sheet at a time. Finally, saving trees, there is SPrinter on my web site which will let you print without using any paper. (or use ArcFax). David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:40 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145577 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:37 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982119444:20:06878:13; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:57:24 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2006721; 14 Feb 2001 2:57 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10631 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:00 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09409 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:57:41 GMT Received: from localhost.com ([62.252.36.118]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010213205740.KMLF23863.mta5-svc.virgin.net@localhost.com> for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:57:40 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:56:04 GMT From: Gerald Cobbe To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Help needed printing Pamphlets please Message-ID: <71ad5b4c4a.Gerald@virgin.net> X-Organization: Home User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10d (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/3.70) POPstar/2.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by omega.barnet.ac.uk id UAA09410 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Hi Folks, Youll have to excuse me if this is a fairly basic question but, having only purchased Ovation Pro last Saturday at the SouthWest Show, I am a complete novice. As I prefer reading a hard copy of the literature I decided to produce a pamphlet printout of the Ovation Pro CD Guide. I started by following the instructions in the Manual which suggested printing the front rst, followed by printing the back with the reverse button clicked. When folding the finished result, the page numbering was all over the place. I then found the 'Print-Aid le on the CD (a 4 page document) and followed the instructions as per above but without the reverse button being clicked and it printed out the 4 page pamphlet perfectly. Having thought Id cracked it I followed the same procedure on the original 27 page document, but the page numbering was all over the place again. Can any kind soul suggest the correct settings in the Print Set Up dialogue window and help save a few trees!! I seem to have got through reams of paper trying. Thanks in anticipation. -- Gerald Cobbe -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:44 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145578 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:41 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982130456:10:26190:15; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:00:56 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1110904; 14 Feb 2001 6:00 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA11297 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:57:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11294 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:57:31 GMT Received: from omba.demon.co.uk ([158.152.58.5]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14SuwU-0000Xj-0U for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:57:30 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jeremy C B Nicoll To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:55:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: A question about PageMaker (sorry) Message-ID: <4a4c8d15d7Jeremy@omba.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.01g (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R I've been told that a document that I'm working on will probably be formatted via PageMaker (dunno which version or platform). The text that is in preparation has some structural tagging in it (vaguely like SGML) so I can manipulate it into another tagged format if I want to, reasonably easily. I've been told that it is easiest just to import vanilla ASCII text into PM, but I know that PM has various import/export filters - but not anything more specific than that. I've been exploring Adobe's web site which seems to have a lot of glossy- brochure type PDF files to download but -in my view- surprisingly little technical information, so can anyone tell me what types of "standard" files can be imported by PM? I've seen something described as "tagged text" which appears to be PM's equivalent of OP's DDL. Is that a valid comparison? Presumably if someone sent me a short multiple-style document in PM's tagged text format I could look at it in !Edit and understand enough to generate something similar myself. Could someone email me a sample file? In particular, how does PM denote things like accented letters (you know the kind of thing - those where Acorn seems to use different codes from the PC world - and for all I know, different from the Mac too)? Is there a Unicode or &xx form or something for such characters? Is it possible in PM's tagged (or whatever) format to mark areas of text to be indexed, cross-referenced etc? Can someone provide a quick sample? Note that once the publisher has been chosen (and I don't have any say in that I'm afraid) I'll talk to them in detail, but I'd like to know roughly what is possible first. It is also possible that the formatting could be done in OP and passed to the publisher as PDF or PS or something (I assume) but the person who is advising me seems heavily anti-Acorn and I doubt I can persuade to my viewpoint easily. Thanks to anyone who can help with this not-very-OP-friendly question. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:45 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145579 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:41 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982119481:20:08161:15; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:58:01 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2007729; 14 Feb 2001 2:57 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10641 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:07 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA10638 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:04 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Ss4y-000H8d-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:54:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:16:25 GMT Message-Id: <145568@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: Proactive Buttons X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Gosh that was quick. Just one comment... > viewpref1(283464,28246,0,0,lockgrid,lockobj,1); This is going to hardwire all sorts of stuff into the macros, those big numbers for example are the size of the pasteboard. I'd suggest instead using the getsnapstate(); setsnapstate(); functions (page 65 in the script manual). I think these would allow the rest of the code to be condensed a little. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:47 2001 Received: from punt-11.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145580 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:45 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982132280:10:03040:19; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:31:20 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1002915; 14 Feb 2001 6:31 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11454 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:29:01 GMT Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11451 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:28:59 GMT Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.com by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14SvQw-0007Yo-06; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:28:58 +0100 Received: from veni (520042741018-0001@[217.87.206.145]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14SvQn-072ffEC; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:28:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Bellon To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:25:04 +0100 Subject: Re: German hyphenation Message-ID: <4a4c8fc53bsbellon@sbellon.de> In-Reply-To: <145546@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <145546@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02d (RISC-OS/4.02) POPstar/2.02 Content-Type: text/plain X-Sender: 520042741018-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro In article <145546@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > Yes, having a really big exceptions dictionary would work. > although I always get confused about the supposed existence > of rules in German which change the spelling of a word if it > is hyphenated. That sort of thing can't be accomodated without > big changes in the program. These rules are no more. We have a "new spelling" here which kills the previously existing rules: stricken => strik-ken Schiffahrt => Schiff-fahrt the ck => k-k is totally eliminated and the ff => ff-f (is true for all consonants) got removed as you know always write three of them in the first case: stricken => stri-cken Schifffahrt => Schiff-fahrt So it should be easier now. :-) Greetings, Stefan. -- Stefan Bellon * * GnuPG fingerprint: 55DB 48FE BA59 7BA0 2B9D 4822 38C5 EC21 0536 0CB9 All humans are created equal, all computers are not - Acorn Risc PC. -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 13:57:51 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145582 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 13:57:49 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982138389:20:07171:18; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:13:09 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2113703; 14 Feb 2001 8:12 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11762 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:09:04 GMT Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk (golden.argonet.co.uk [194.131.104.13]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA11759 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:09:02 GMT Received: from userec80.uk.uudial.com (62.188.10.160) [62.188.10.160] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 14Swzl-0001aN-00; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:09:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David Breakwell To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:00:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Proactive Buttons Message-ID: <4a4c9880eadavidb@argonet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <145568@pilling.demon.co.uk> References: <145568@pilling.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Pluto/2.02b (RISC-OS/3.70) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro Status: R In article <145568@pilling.demon.co.uk>, David Pilling wrote: > getsnapstate(); > setsnapstate(); > functions (page 65 in the script manual). I think these would > allow the rest of the code to be condensed a little. Mmmm - I didn't notice these commands in the manual... string lg_on = "time"; string lg_off = "date"; string lo_on = "time"; string lo_off = "date"; string snapmac_do(int button, int opt) { string ret; int cstate; ret =""; opt = ((opt&0xFF00)>>8); cstate=getsnapstate(); if(button==1) { if(opt==8) { if((cstate&2)==2) ret = lg_on; else ret = lg_off; } if (opt==1) { cstate = cstate ^ 2; } } if(button==2) { if(opt==8) { if((cstate&1)==1) ret = lg_on; else ret = lg_off; } if (opt==1) { cstate = cstate ^ 1; } } setsnapstate(cstate); return ret; } void main() { defmacro2(68,"lockgswtch","{macv=snapmac_do(1,macenv);}",lg_off,"Switch Lock Grid"); defmacro2(68,"lockgswtch2","{macv=snapmac_do(2,macenv);}",lo_off,"Switch Lock Object"); } I supose this would work... by the way the first 4 lines are the sprite names for on and off on each of the buttons. David -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Author IdxPro,Newframe,WordWrks and Labeller | | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | davidb@argonet.co.uk -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 21:12:24 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145612 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 21:12:18 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982174178:20:09864:15; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:09:38 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2009634; 14 Feb 2001 18:09 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13399 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:53 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13395 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:51 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14T6GQ-0007F1-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <145603@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: A question about PageMaker (sorry) X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro I'd think that David Breakwells recent work on RTF exporting was relevant. Either because you could use RTF, or that the way he does it, would let you generate other tagged formats. David Pilling -- email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/pilling web: http://www.pilling.demon.co.uk post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK. fax: +44(0)870-0520-941 -- To unsubscribe from this list, email majordomo@lists.barnet.ac.uk with the words UNSUBSCRIBE ovationpro in the body of the message From owner-ovationpro@omega.barnet.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 21:12:35 2001 Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by pilling.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA145613 for opro ; Wed, 14 Feb 101 21:12:28 GMT Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for opro@pilling.demon.co.uk id 982174179:20:09680:26; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:09:39 GMT Received: from omega.barnet.ac.uk ([194.82.200.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2009600; 14 Feb 2001 18:09 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13397 for ovationpro-list; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:51 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by omega.barnet.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13391 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:49 GMT Received: from pilling.demon.co.uk ([158.152.9.39]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14T6GO-0007F1-0K for ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:02:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:46:34 GMT Message-Id: <145601@pilling.demon.co.uk> From:(David Pilling) To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Subject: Re: Proactive Buttons X-Mailer: ArcBM 1.11 Sender: owner-ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ovationpro@lists.barnet.ac.uk X-maillist: ovationpro >I supose this would work... by the way the first 4 lines are the sprite >names for on and off on each of the button